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Is Younis Khan Pakistan's best ever Test batsman?

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So, as Younis approaches 10K runs at an average of 53 and with him now scoring centuries in all 11 countries (being the only batsman ever to do so). Can we consider him as Pakistan's best ever test batsman ahead of the likes of Zaheer Abbas, Mohammad Yousuf and Miandad?
 
Naaaah, you're just excited cause he scored a hundred. To me he's on the lower end of the top 10 or 15 batters in Pakistan history.
 
Without a doubt.. GOAT no.1 for Pakistan in Test Matches
 
Only played 19 matches in Pakistan out of 114 Test matches in his career. Pretty sure his record would have been even better had he played more matches in Pakistan.
 
Pakistanian said:
Naaaah, you're just excited cause he scored a hundred. To me he's on the lower end of the top 10 or 15 batters in Pakistan history.
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That's a bit of an absurd comment. Considering how little cricket he has played at home and how how high his average is there can't be too many Pakistani batsman that can match his achievements.
 
Very close between him and Miandad. Marginally better than Inzi and definitely better than M Yousuf.
 
Miandad remains #1.

You can slot the rest as you prefer. I can see YK being among the top 5 at the very least.
 
He has pretty strong case as Test batsman, Overall a no because of poor ODI performance.
 
kingusama92 said:
Miandad remains #1.

You can slot the rest as you prefer. I can see YK being among the top 5 at the very least.
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Based on what? I'm just curious.

Top 5 is a bit harsh. He would easily fit in the top 3 of anyone's ranking for top Pakistani test batsmen
 
uberkoen said:
Based on what? YK has a better average, more runs, more centuries than Miandad.
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Didn't watch Miandad play but I've seen Younis' struggles due to his technique when conditions have aided lateral movement.

Scores have also increased nowadays in comparison to what they were during Miandad's time.

Taking nothing away from YK's determination, one of the mentally strongest cricketers I've ever seen for sure.
 
1) Miandad
2) Inzamam
3) Anwar
4) Hanif
5) Younis
6) MoYo, Zaheer
7) Azhar (expect him to break into that top 3 by the time he retires)
 
YK is the greatest and grittiest Test batsman Pakistan has ever produced. Average of 53, nearly 10k runs and top 10 century scorer of all time with an unreal conversion rate. Still has the hunger and fitness to score lot more test centuries.

Has atleast couple more years to guide the young batting line up.
 
Undoubtedly , people are often romanticized with the past but younis khan is certainly a better test batsman than inzi and is on par with miandad.
 
miandadrules said:
What are your criticisms of YK that don't apply to Yousuf?
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Vulnerability against consistent lateral movement. Yousuf played the moving ball much better.

Younis has the edge in playing more innings of substance on flatter tracks and against spin.

It's close but I have Yousuf because I prefer complete batsmanship such as strokeplay and technical application against lateral movement. Being able to leave the ball with authority and countering the off length deliveries through strokeplay. In comparison to surviving the new ball with grit and determination while hopping on one leg and then capitalizing later on.
 
Chief Destroyer said:
Vulnerability against consistent lateral movement. Yousuf played the moving ball much better.

Younis has the edge in playing more innings of substance on flatter tracks and against spin.

It's close but I have Yousuf because I prefer complete batsmanship such as strokeplay and technical application against lateral movement. Being able to leave the ball with authority and countering the off length deliveries through strokeplay. In comparison to surviving the new ball with grit and determination while hopping on one leg and then capitalizing later on.
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Yousuf was woeful against lateral movement.

I'm not sure how much of Yusuf's career you have seen but leaving the ball with authority isn't shuffling across the stumps and wafting your bat at the ball. That was a Yousuf speciality.

Any time the pitch had anything in it Yousuf was usually a sitting duck.

Which are these great knocks on difficult pitches Yousuf played? I can think of one good one.
 
I find it hard to comprehend how people can rate Yousuf ahead of Younis.

Whilst it's true that Yousuf was more naturally talented and his batting was much easier on the eye, it was Younis who was instrumental in many of Pakistans Test match wins.
 
Pakistan's greatest ever FTB. It is a joke to call him Pakistan's greatest batsman.

He is a tail-ender against lateral movement, and his lack of class was on display in NZ where he averaged 4 over two Tests on green pitches.

Not interested in dead rubber performances. When the series was alive, he failed in 3/4 innings.
 
Can't choose between Miandad and Younis personally, but there is no doubt that they are both ATG batsmen.

Right now, India is leading with three (Sachin, Gavasker, Dravid), Pakistan are second and Sri Lanka are third with one ATG batsman in Sangakkara.
 
Mamoon said:
Pakistan's greatest ever FTB. It is a joke to call him Pakistan's greatest batsman.

He is a tail-ender against lateral movement, and his lack of class was on display in NZ where he averaged 4 over two Tests on green pitches.

Not interested in dead rubber performances. When the series was alive, he failed in 3/4 innings.
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You can't just judge his entire career based on the last few series. Secondly, if he can score on flat tracks and in dead rubber matches why couldn't our other batsmen? Fact of the matter is, he is much better than most, if not all, Pakistani batsmen to have played test cricket because everyone got the same opportunity as Younis and Younis outclassed all of them.
 
uberkoen said:
You can't just judge his entire career based on the last few series. Secondly, if he can score on flat tracks and in dead rubber matches why couldn't our other batsmen? Fact of the matter is, he is much better than most, if not all, Pakistani batsmen to have played test cricket because everyone got the same opportunity as Younis and Younis outclassed all of them.
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He has always struggled against lateral movement. I haven't seen a bigger fisherman than him in Test cricket in spite of having the experience of 100 Tests.

We can't talk about same opportunities because the likes of Miandad, Inzamam, MoYo etc. largely played in different periods.

Inzamam retired in 2007 and Younis got going in 2005; MoYo and his career coincided quite a bit, but MoYo outshone him either with better away series (England 2006) or better individual innings (Australia 2004; SA 2006).

The fact is that Younis was not able to establish himself till 2005 because he repeatedly got exposed by bowlers like Pollock, Ambrose, Walsh etc. during the 2000-2004 period.

Miandad, Inzamam, MoYo and Younis playing in the same era in the same team....I don't envision Younis coming on top in such a scenario.
 
Mamoon said:
Pakistan's greatest ever FTB. It is a joke to call him Pakistan's greatest batsman.

He is a tail-ender against lateral movement, and his lack of class was on display in NZ where he averaged 4 over two Tests on green pitches.

Not interested in dead rubber performances. When the series was alive, he failed in 3/4 innings.
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Can't agree with that more myself. Even before the series started, I had predicted that the FTB would come good in the dead rubber only—and voila.
 
miandadrules said:
Yousuf was woeful against lateral movement.

I'm not sure how much of Yusuf's career you have seen but leaving the ball with authority isn't shuffling across the stumps and wafting your bat at the ball. That was a Yousuf speciality.

Any time the pitch had anything in it Yousuf was usually a sitting duck.

Which are these great knocks on difficult pitches Yousuf played? I can think of one good one.
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Yousuf left the swinging ball very well not sure what you're talking about. He had a tendency to play behind square because of his wrist-play which was his downfall against seam movement.

Huh? Shuffle across the stumps and have a big waffle? Yousuf had a small trigger which aligned him perfectly with the offstump. Playing shots with a high backlift does not equal to having a big waffle.
 
Chief Destroyer said:
Yousuf left the swinging ball very well not sure what you're talking about. He had a tendency to play behind square because of his wrist-play which was his downfall against seam movement.

Huh? Shuffle across the stumps and have a big waffle? Yousuf had a small trigger which aligned him perfectly with the offstump. Playing shots with a high backlift does not equal to having a big waffle.
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I'm talking about his career which I saw in it's entirety.

Like I said please give examples of these great knocks that he played in difficult pitches.

His shuffle either had him trapped lbw or caught behind if there was movement. There is a reason why he refused to bat at 3 even when the team management pressed him to.
 
Not a younis fan but, it's rediclous the way some people call him FTB and them same people go gaga over kholi's centuries in aus as if they were green mamba's.
 
miandadrules said:
I'm talking about his career which I saw in it's entirety.

Like I said please give examples of these great knocks that he played in difficult pitches.

His shuffle either had him trapped lbw or caught behind if there was movement. There is a reason why he refused to bat at 3 even when the team management pressed him to.
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Nowhere did I mention anything about great knocks. All I said was Yousuf applied himself better against lateral movement. Yousuf has played through many spells of swing bowling in England and NZ. Most of his runs in his last tour to England were in challenging conditions. I'm not gonna sit here and name all of them. You're turning this into some random argument. I thought you were just asking of my opinion. Come out of your little bubble. Not everyone thinks your way.

A lot of great batsmen are trapped LB or caught behind throughout their career. It doesn't mean anything. He didn't bat at 3 because he was a mental midget. Like I said Yousuf struggled against seam movement because he had a tendency to play behind square quite often which was his downfall. Don't confuse it with swing.
 
Chief Destroyer said:
Nowhere did I mention anything about great knocks. All I said was Yousuf applied himself better against lateral movement. Yousuf has played through many spells of swing bowling in England and NZ. Most of his runs in his last tour to England were in challenging conditions. I'm not gonna sit here and name all of them. You're turning this into some random argument. I thought you were just asking of my opinion. Come out of your little bubble. Not everyone thinks your way.

A lot of great batsmen are trapped LB or caught behind throughout their career. It doesn't mean anything. He didn't bat at 3 because he was a mental midget. Like I said Yousuf struggled against seam movement because he had a tendency to play behind square quite often which was his downfall. Don't confuse it with swing.
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His last England tour his scores were 56, 33, 10 and 0.

There is something to ponder.

I'll give you a more detailed reply once I get off work.
 
Hes definetly in the top 3, you can make a case for javed, inzy and yk in any order in top 3
 
Khan12 said:
Not a younis fan but, it's rediclous the way some people call him FTB and them same people go gaga over kholi's centuries in aus as if they were green mamba's.
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Actually i think it the other way around.

Kohli's 6 centuries in Aus and SA were dismissed by PPérs whereas YK (who has a sum total of 6 centuries away from the SC) is being labelled an ATG after scoring a ton in a dead rubber despite failing in the previous 4 must-win tests against NZ and Aus.
 
miandadrules said:
His last England tour his scores were 56, 33, 10 and 0.

There is something to ponder.

I'll give you a more detailed reply once I get off work.
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He came mid-series to be fair to him and looked quite assured at the crease.

There is nothing to ponder on. I've watched him play. I'm not claiming he's the greatest player of swing bowling. He had his flaws because his strokeplay involved too much risk. Too much wrist-work which reduces bat presentation and increases the chance of catching an edge. But it doesn't mean he never had any success against swing. In fact, he was quite successful. It was almost always movement off the pitch which got him.

This was a direct comparison to Younis only. Yousuf's game was more assured and he judged the offstump better. His strokeplay without a doubt was better.
 
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Younis has scored more Test match runs than any Pakistani batsman and at a better average. Even though most of his success has come in the UAE let's not forget he averages over 50 in England, India, Bangladesh and now Australia. He is one of the highest run scorers in the world outside of home. He has also scored the most hundreds and the most runs in Test wins away from home.

Calling him an FTB and just overlooking all of his performances is extremely unfair.

Just have a look at his stats on test wins away from home. They are absolutely brilliant. He is a without a doubt a match winner for Pakistan. He is one of the rare Pakistani batsman who can has the ability to play a long innings. Not only does he have the highest number of centuries by a Pakistani batsman in Test Cricket but also is tied with Miandad on the highest number of double centuries.

Let's also not look past the man's fighting spirit. He has overcome a lot of obstacles in both his cricketing and personal life. From match fixing allegations under his captaincy to being banned for in-fighting and from losing his father and his four siblings and a few years ago when he lost his nephew. The man has been a thorough professional and has always come back fighting.

Also let's not forget that the man has not played at home in the last 8-9 years. People tend to forget his innings on a turning track where he scored 300 against Murli on a turning pitch and the 2005-06 India series where he scored century after century.

Younis also batted in an era where we did not have any reliable openers and was usually called upon very early in the game to face the new ball. People talk about his skills against the moving ball need to remember it was him batting at number 3 and not Yousuf or Inzi and we all know how good our openers have been over the last 10 years or so.

Please give credit where it's due. He may not be on the top of your list but he definitely is one of the best Pakistani test cricketers ever.
 
Dead Ball said:
Actually i think it the other way around.

Kohli's 6 centuries in Aus and SA were dismissed by PPérs whereas YK (who has a sum total of 6 centuries away from the SC) is being labelled an ATG after scoring a ton in a dead rubber despite failing in the previous 4 must-win tests against NZ and Aus.
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Way to miss the point of a whole group of people. Younis has 10,000 runs, which includes his 34 centuries, that have won Pakistan plenty of matches all around the world. That is what makes him an ATG, not two of his recent centuries.

Kohli was being hyped to the moon after playing on some of the flattest tracks seen by man and having done nothing else in tests before that.
 
Bilal7 said:
Way to miss the point of a whole group of people. Younis has 10,000 runs, which includes his 34 centuries, that have won Pakistan plenty of matches all around the world. That is what makes him an ATG, not two of his recent centuries.

Kohli was being hyped to the moon after playing on some of the flattest tracks seen by man and having done nothing else in tests before that.
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I doubt a batsman struggling to average 40+ outside the subcontinent despite playing in a batsman friendly era would be called an ATG.
 
Certainly not. PPers are forgetting the ATG Miandad here.
 
No he is not , type of bowling attack should be taken in consideration. Inzy mainly played against Mcgrath, Warne , Lee Gillespie or Macgill and Khan is playing against Lyon or Sfk. Pitches are little bit more flat.
 
Navdeep Srivastava said:
No he is not , type of bowling attack should be taken in consideration. Inzy mainly played against Mcgrath, Warne , Lee Gillespie or Macgill and Khan is playing against Lyon or Sfk. Pitches are little bit more flat.
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What? Has Younis not faced the likes of Mcgrath, Gillespie et al.? Or has Inzimam never played against a weak bowling attack? Your point makes no sense.
 
uberkoen said:
What? Has Younis not faced the likes of Mcgrath, Gillespie et al.? Or has Inzimam never played against a weak bowling attack? Your point makes no sense.
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Inzy never faced complete weak Aussie bowling attack like current Aussie in any full series, and pitches in which Inzy played against Aussie was more lively one . There is a reason Walsh and Ambrose rated Inzy, have you see Younis khan playing on bouncy witcket, he would have been a sitting duck against Walsh and Ambrose when he has problem against Starc and Hazelwood, needed flat pancake with two spinners ( average at best) to make century.
 
To me it has to be between Inzi and MoYo.

YK is a good batsman. That's about it. He struggles against genuine pace and plays like a Tailender against them.

To me, whenever YK scores, it has to be a super flat pitch.

Inzi and MoYo are much better to me. They know where their off stump is and they always look in total control until they get out.

The one thing that YK has over Inzi or MoYo is that YK has tons of patience. The patience to play long innings.

Even though YK scores 10,000 runs, I still rate Inzi and MoYo more as I have watched all 3 of them a lot.
 
Grit, fitness, Stmama and determination YK has we have not seen in any of our greats. None of them were as disciplined and fit as he is. Inzi and MoYo were horrible runners between wickets, so many runouts in test ( Ironically I am mentioning this when YK and Azhar had terrible running between the wickets day).

As far as playing in testing conditions is concerned, nobody has even made double ton in green and wet conditions we saw last month in NZ or on a rank trunners India made for SA, I am talking about any batsmen including Bradman, it's not humanly possible. Most if not all big 100s are made when conditions get easier.

Also, none of our greats were good against moving ball, Sami knows his off stump better than any of our greats, there is a reason they all played in middle order. It's not like one was so much better than other.

Before calling him FTB, remember this he is the king of 4th innings, batting is hardest on 5th day, even in Asia, and he has passed that test not just against Pakistani greats but all greats with flying colors. Let's cherrish for what he is.

His main problem is that he is too jitter and out of sort in first 40/50 balls of the innings, well everybody does but he has trouble more than others. But once he get through that, he develops his innings very well, he grows up within an innings probably better than anybody else, that's why he makes so many daddy 100s. In modern era where many top batsmen struggle against spin, he is one the best in the business, you cannot shrugged that off as nothing special, it's not a fluke, it's a dam good skill!!!

He is definitely Pakistani Great and modern day test great, weather the Greatest Pakistani, that debate one can never settle.
 
troodon said:
To me it has to be between Inzi and MoYo.

YK is a good batsman. That's about it. He struggles against genuine pace and plays like a Tailender against them.

To me, whenever YK scores, it has to be a super flat pitch.

Inzi and MoYo are much better to me. They know where their off stump is and they always look in total control until they get out.

The one thing that YK has over Inzi or MoYo is that YK has tons of patience. The patience to play long innings.

Even though YK scores 10,000 runs, I still rate Inzi and MoYo more as I have watched all 3 of them a lot.
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Challenge is that Pakistan don't have a stand out batsman who is so much better than other, like India had Sachin, there is little debate weather Sachin is greatest Indian batsman or not.

Even if you go to WI, debate is not that simple, difficult to choose between Sobers, Viv and Lara.

In Australia all debates starts after Bradman, as matter of fact all batting comparisons starts after him.
 
yasir said:
Grit, fitness, Stmama and determination YK has we have not seen in any of our greats. None of them were as disciplined and fit as he is. Inzi and MoYo were horrible runners between wickets, so many runouts in test ( Ironically I am mentioning this when YK and Azhar had terrible running between the wickets day).

As far as playing in testing conditions is concerned, nobody has even made double ton in green and wet conditions we saw last month in NZ or on a rank trunners India made for SA, I am talking about any batsmen including Bradman, it's not humanly possible. Most if not all big 100s are made when conditions get easier.

Also, none of our greats were good against moving ball, Sami knows his off stump better than any of our greats, there is a reason they all played in middle order. It's not like one was so much better than other.

Before calling him FTB, remember this he is the king of 4th innings, batting is hardest on 5th day, even in Asia, and he has passed that test not just against Pakistani greats but all greats with flying colors. Let's cherrish for what he is.

His main problem is that he is too jitter and out of sort in first 40/50 balls of the innings, well everybody does but he has trouble more than others. But once he get through that, he develops his innings very well, he grows up within an innings probably better than anybody else, that's why he makes so many daddy 100s. In modern era where many top batsmen struggle against spin, he is one the best in the business, you cannot shrugged that off as nothing special, it's not a fluke, it's a dam good skill!!!

He is definitely Pakistani Great and modern day test great, weather the Greatest Pakistani, that debate one can never settle.
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I large number of people who saw Miandad would disagree with you.

Miandad had grit, Fitness and Stamina. of course technology and techniques have moved on since 1970's and 1980's but no doubt Mindad was extremely fit and had more grit then YK.

As far as stats are concerned, Miandad averaged 50+ from beginning (from debut) to end in an era when 45+ was considered ATG.

Also Mindad played against the best of lineups

YK is a superb batsmen and not taking anything away from him or his accomplishments
 
My ranking: Miandad, Mo Yo, Inzi and Younis tied for third. Rank Younis definitely better higher S.Anwar and Z.Abbas.

ATG is my view
 
I would rate Younis ahead of Yousuf, particularly against spin. Yousuf struggled for a while against left arm spin, notably against Monty Panesar.

Younis also has a better record of clutch knocks in 4th innings whereas one felt Yousuf melted under pressure too often.
 
Markhor said:
I would rate Younis ahead of Yousuf, particularly against spin. Yousuf struggled for a while against left arm spin, notably against Monty Panesar.

Younis also has a better record of clutch knocks in 4th innings whereas one felt Yousuf melted under pressure too often.
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Possibly tied with Miandad but ahead of Inzi and MoYo. If it were about stats alone he would be the best no debate. Whats telling is that his numbers stand out even by international comparison. The rate at which he piled up centuries per innings, and his stats in the 4th innings mark him a player who had something special. And it was never just about numbers. He has been the consummate impact player, with some of the great Pakistani knocks to his credit, knowing how to score big in clutch moments. As recently as England just last year.

Now please retire.
 
uberkoen said:
So, as Younis approaches 10K runs at an average of 53 and with him now scoring centuries in all 11 countries (being the only batsman ever to do so). Can we consider him as Pakistan's best ever test batsman ahead of the likes of Zaheer Abbas, Mohammad Yousuf and Miandad?
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He is the best Pakistani test player of all time. Evenmore so the times he helped Pakistan. He is the most hardworking and fit personal in the pakistan team. At the same time he will always work on his faults and make a century.
 
uberkoen said:
Because Virat is able to score at home? Younis' record would've been much different had he played as many matches at home as Virat has.

Stupid comment to say the least.
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Younis has played numerous matches on the flat pitches in UAE (which is considered home for him).
 
LordJames said:
I large number of people who saw Miandad would disagree with you.

Miandad had grit, Fitness and Stamina. of course technology and techniques have moved on since 1970's and 1980's but no doubt Mindad was extremely fit and had more grit then YK.

As far as stats are concerned, Miandad averaged 50+ from beginning (from debut) to end in an era when 45+ was considered ATG.

Also Mindad played against the best of lineups

YK is a superb batsmen and not taking anything away from him or his accomplishments
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I am not sure if Miandad was more fitter than YK at any stage, they can be equivalent but cannot think of any Pakistani batsmen fitter than YK. YK is still very fit, can play all day, actually has played all day away from home. Miandad faded away significantly after 92...Again there is no one batsmen that stands out clearly.

I don't rate Inzi much, he was very talented but very lazy at the same time, he could have achieved lot more if he had a drive. Both Inzi and Anwar had poor attitude and fitness regime. They did not justify their talent... Where as YK achieve well above his natural talent, he was/is one of the most hard working and disciplined batsmen seen in green shirt. I hope Azhar follow him, he is developing like YK in many ways!!
 
Not really, goes missing when the team needs him to deliver on the big stage. His beautiful stats don't reflect this.
 
For those calling YK a FTB & dead rubber specialist- what Pakistani batsman has even close to the same away record on tougher way conditions and match winning knocks in live away tests?

That is question 1.


Question 2 is how valuable would YK runs have been if he had a half decent attack behind him for the best half of his career instead of a bunch of over-rated pretenders (Shoaib, Kaneiria, Yasir, Asif because he is always suspended etc are the very best of the worst attacks Pakistan has ever fielded)
 
No. His overseas record excluding Zim is worse than Inzy and Yousuf although he is quite easily a level ahead of the latter.
 
No. Miandad , Hanif and Inzi were better batsmen
 
Ab Fan said:
No. His overseas record excluding Zim is worse than Inzy and Yousuf although he is quite easily a level ahead of the latter.
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Really ? Apart from SA he has a very decent away record. Even Aus it's close to 40.

He is right up there next to Inzi and Miandad.
 
AlphaFighter said:
Not really, goes missing when the team needs him to deliver on the big stage. His beautiful stats don't reflect this.
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Complete nonsense, he's hundreds were become very meaningful unlike Yousaf who made beautiful runs but when pressure was zero.

Inzi and Miandad were overall better when including ODis but Younis is easily level with them in Tests.
 
90MPH said:
Really ? Apart from SA he has a very decent away record. Even Aus it's close to 40.

He is right up there next to Inzi and Miandad.
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Right now he is averaging 50 in Australia, hope he remains not out :D.
 
Chief Destroyer said:
He came mid-series to be fair to him and looked quite assured at the crease.

There is nothing to ponder on. I've watched him play. I'm not claiming he's the greatest player of swing bowling. He had his flaws because his strokeplay involved too much risk. Too much wrist-work which reduces bat presentation and increases the chance of catching an edge. But it doesn't mean he never had any success against swing. In fact, he was quite successful. It was almost always movement off the pitch which got him.

This was a direct comparison to Younis only. Yousuf's game was more assured and he judged the offstump better. His strokeplay without a doubt was better.
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You can't on one hand use the England series as an example of him countering testing conditions but at the same time make excuses for his failures. Also, the two tests he played were the easiest two of the season, which tends to happen the deeper we go in to the English summer.

You said he was quite successful against swing, so it shouldn't be difficult to give a few substantive examples.
 
Chief Destroyer said:
Yousuf left the swinging ball very well not sure what you're talking about. He had a tendency to play behind square because of his wrist-play which was his downfall against seam movement.

Huh? Shuffle across the stumps and have a big waffle? Yousuf had a small trigger which aligned him perfectly with the offstump. Playing shots with a high backlift does not equal to having a big waffle.
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Yousuf didn't leave the swinging ball at all. He had a major technical flaw which he did iron out for a period in his career. He always shuffled across the stumps and once the ball moved he had a tendency to have his head fall away, causing him to overbalance and play across the line. Which always made him a candidate for caught behind and LBW.

Now, he did remedy this during the 2005-7 period but after his sabbatical to the ICL and muscle memory being what it is, these flaws crept back in.

However, you seem to be implying that he played like this his whole career.

In addition to this, you stated that YK seeing off the pacers, whilst jumping around and cashing in on the spinners is something he did throughout his career, when it only really became a feature in the last quarter of his career.

So, you're extrapolating YK's last quarter as indicative of his entire career and as well a 2-3 year patch of Yusuf's.
 
AlphaFighter said:
Not really, goes missing when the team needs him to deliver on the big stage. His beautiful stats don't reflect this.
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The opposite of the truth. Has scored some of the most impactful centuries in Pakistani cricket history. The last one as recently as England this summer
 
Weren't there better and more challenging bowlers in Miandad's era? Not only that but today's game is more batting dominated. Younis however is top class but his defect against lateral movement will always be a factor in his ranking. I can only say less about Miandad because I've never seen him play live and I wasn't around when he retired.
 
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