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Ishant Sharma: "I want to bowl at 100MPH"

cricketfanfirst said:
Yes, mostly fast bowlers start with raw pace and as you said they are more or less have this express pace starting at first class level itself. Few exceptions, I can remember to this are Imran and Flintoff. I think Imran bowled at decent pace from 1971-75. But, he started to bowl express pace from the tour of Australia in 1976-77. By, early 1980s he must have been one of the fastest bowlers in the world along with Marshall, Holding etc.

Also, in case of Flintoff, if I remember correctly he used to bowl at good pace but once in a while, when he wanted to, bowled at mid 90mphs like against Australia in 2005 and also in one series against India.


Imran was not express. He was more of fast medium. As also pointed by one of the WI fast bowlers of his time and the article was posted on PP itself. He never looked express anyways and his fastest recorded delievery is at 139 kph.

Flintoff was always express, however he had undergone an injury just before making his debut. And hence initially he was only medium pace. But over the time, his pace increased.

Well, fast bowlers are not made ? Hmm, Imran khan would be surprised to hear that. If I remember correctly, he trained a medium pacer called Wasim Akram and made him bowl express pace in about 6 months time.
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hur rizvi said:
Ishant bowled at good pace b/w 85-90mph but still he didnt bowl even one delivery over 90mph ....
that is decent pace but nothing spectacular....... all pakistani bowlers bowl at this speed but we dont say they are fast .....

Ishant is a decent bowler but he is not a genuine fast bowler and will never be because genuine fast bowlers are born fast they cant be made...
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tell any name except Wahab Riyaaz..Even Gul did not bowl at that pace in WI...Ishant was bowling 150 in T20s in IPL
 
cricketfanfirst said:
Yes, mostly fast bowlers start with raw pace and as you said they are more or less have this express pace starting at first class level itself. Few exceptions, I can remember to this are Imran and Flintoff. I think Imran bowled at decent pace from 1971-75. But, he started to bowl express pace from the tour of Australia in 1976-77. By, early 1980s he must have been one of the fastest bowlers in the world along with Marshall, Holding etc.

Also, in case of Flintoff, if I remember correctly he used to bowl at good pace but once in a while, when he wanted to, bowled at mid 90mphs like against Australia in 2005 and also in one series against India.

In case of Ishant, he should first perfect the art of bowling well consistently in tests over a period of time, then he can try to improve it gradually. At the end of the day, he should remember getting wickets is priority not bowling at 90s and being wicketless.
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Remember Isahnt Is only 22 and already has around 100 wickets while Mcgrath had only stared his career at this age and was not the most impressive bowler at that time when Mcgrath started.
 
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cricketfanfirst said:
Yes, mostly fast bowlers start with raw pace and as you said they are more or less have this express pace starting at first class level itself. Few exceptions, I can remember to this are Imran and Flintoff. I think Imran bowled at decent pace from 1971-75. But, he started to bowl express pace from the tour of Australia in 1976-77. By, early 1980s he must have been one of the fastest bowlers in the world along with Marshall, Holding etc.

Also, in case of Flintoff, if I remember correctly he used to bowl at good pace but once in a while, when he wanted to, bowled at mid 90mphs like against Australia in 2005 and also in one series against India.


Imran was not express. He was more of fast medium. As also pointed by one of the WI fast bowlers of his time and the article was posted on PP itself. He never looked express anyways and his fastest recorded delievery is at 139 kph.

Flintoff was always express, however he had undergone an injury just before making his debut. And hence initially he was only medium pace. But over the time, his pace increased.

Well, fast bowlers are not made ? Hmm, Imran khan would be surprised to hear that. If I remember correctly, he trained a medium pacer called Wasim Akram and made him bowl express pace in about 6 months time.
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Flintoff was not fast when he debuted for England. He was more of batting alrounder. He was a 135 K bowler then..even in WC 2003 he was not a genuine pace, but he gained pace later in his career.
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rkt.india said:
Remember Isahnt Is only 22 and already has around 100 wickets while Mcgrath had only stared his career at this age and was not the most impressive bowler at that time when Mcgrath started.
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Yes, he still has lot of time to improve on pace. Now on, he needs to bowl consistently good for few series, that will increase his confidence. Then he can start to work on his pace. Anyway, 85-90 is decent pace to trouble the batsmen, if you have good control over line and length.
 
rkt.india said:
tell any name except Wahab Riyaaz..Even Gul did not bowl at that pace in WI...Ishant was bowling 150 in T20s in IPL
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Gul is a rythm bowler even he is not genuine fast and he was returning after a break fast bowlers do need time to get to theirfull speed and Gul only played one match
neither is wahab a genuine fast bowler who is at least 2-3 mph faster than Ishant ....

I dont care about IPL when was the last time Ishant bowl 90mph in International cricket??
 
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anshu1 said:
Flintoff was not fast when he debuted for England. He was more of batting alrounder. He was a 135 K bowler then..even in WC 2003 he was not a genuine pace, but he gained pace later in his career.
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Again flintoff also was a rythm bowler when in full rythm he could crank it upto early 150s but when not in rythm he was more of 140k ish
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cricketfanfirst said:
Yes, mostly fast bowlers start with raw pace and as you said they are more or less have this express pace starting at first class level itself. Few exceptions, I can remember to this are Imran and Flintoff. I think Imran bowled at decent pace from 1971-75. But, he started to bowl express pace from the tour of Australia in 1976-77. By, early 1980s he must have been one of the fastest bowlers in the world along with Marshall, Holding etc.

Also, in case of Flintoff, if I remember correctly he used to bowl at good pace but once in a while, when he wanted to, bowled at mid 90mphs like against Australia in 2005 and also in one series against India.

In case of Ishant, he should first perfect the art of bowling well consistently in tests over a period of time, then he can try to improve it gradually. At the end of the day, he should remember getting wickets is priority not bowling at 90s and being wicketless.
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Imran khan had to re-model his action completely to increase his pace !!!! but Imran had other virtues apart from pace as well like good inswingers and outswingers , good yorkers etc and had great ability to revertse the ball ...
 
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Lol at counting IPL speeds ... some Yadav bloke was apparently hitting the mid 150s in IPL ... no way jose.
 
cricketfanfirst said:
Yes, he still has lot of time to improve on pace. Now on, he needs to bowl consistently good for few series, that will increase his confidence. Then he can start to work on his pace. Anyway, 85-90 is decent pace to trouble the batsmen, if you have good control over line and length.
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I can guarantee you Ishant will have to work hard even to mantain this pace i-e 85-89mph ... I dont see him improving pace beyond this

He seriously needs to work on his line and length which is very in-consistent rather than thinking about improving pace
 
Poison said:
Lol at counting IPL speeds ... some Yadav bloke was apparently hitting the mid 150s in IPL ... no way jose.
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Yes When sohail tanvir played 1st IPL season he clocked several times upto early and mid 140s

I dont see any reason why IShant who was able to bowl 150k in IPL was b/w 85-89 mph in W.I ?? Most bowlers tend to bowl fast in International matches compared to domestic matches ......
 
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hur rizvi said:
Gul is a rythm bowler even he is not genuine fast and he was returning after a break fast bowlers do need time to get to theirfull speed and Gul only played one match
neither is wahab a genuine fast bowler who is at least 2-3 mph faster than Ishant ....

I dont care about IPL when was the last time Ishant bowl 90mph in International cricket??
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Riyaz mostly bowler low 140s..and goes over 145 on occasions only...any bowler who bowl over 140K-150 can be termed as fast because bowlers who bowl more often 155-160 are once in a decade bowlers..we do not have any right now who can bowl at that pace except Shaun Tait who does not play much international cricket....

Only Jeff Thomson, Brett Lee Shoiab Akhtar, and Shave Bond are bowler who bowled 155-160 KPH at will in the history of cricket in more than 100 years. They are a rare breed.
 
hur rizvi said:
Yes When sohail tanvir played 1st IPL season he clocked several times upto early and mid 140s

I dont see any reason why IShant who was able to bowl 150k in IPL was b/w 85-89 mph in W.I ?? Most bowlers tend to bowl fast in International matches compared to domestic matches ......
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Tanveer never bowled 140 even in IPL...in T20s bowler put more effort than in a test where bowlers bowl long spells and WI is not a place where bowlers will bowl fast...environment problems. Even Roach who bowled 154KPH in WC, was rarely bowling over 90mph.
 
look at how Aamir was struggling to touch even 140 in Srilanka while he bowler high 140s in Ozz..different speed guns yield different results sometimes as well, especially TEN sports speed guns which i have noticed show low speed in comparison to Max or ESPN or channel 9 speed guns
 
hur rizvi said:
Gul bowled over 150kph several times in the WC
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Fastest ball bowled by Umar Gul in 7 matches of WC( he played 8 matches and I don't know about his speed against Australia) was 92.8 mph.

Did he bowl over 150 kph against Australia?
 
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Poison said:
Lol at counting IPL speeds ... some Yadav bloke was apparently hitting the mid 150s in IPL ... no way jose.
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Yadav is fast genuinely fast..one of the fastest bowler in Indian domestic ..that is why Delhi daredevils had retained as inexperienced bowler as him for a huge sum of 750,000 dollars:amir

He beaten Morgan for pace in one of the matches on pull....and a top edge of his bowling by MacCulum went for 6 and he was asked to bowl as fast as he can by DD management.
 
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rkt.india said:
Tanveer never bowled 140 even in IPL...in T20s bowler put more effort than in a test where bowlers bowl long spells and WI is not a place where bowlers will bowl fast...environment problems. Even Roach who bowled 154KPH in WC, was rarely bowling over 90mph.
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I have seen myself tanvir bowling 140kph deliveries in IPL which shows their Pace guns are not right ....

And fast bowlers should be able to bowl fast in any environment .....
 
AlizeeFan said:
Fastest ball bowled by Umar Gul in 7 matches of WC( he played 8 matches and I don't know about his speed against Australia) was 92.8 mph.

Did he bowl over 150 kph against Australia?
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yes he did he bowled the fastest delivery in the match against Aussies when johnson , lee and tait were playing
 
rkt.india said:
Remember Isahnt Is only 22 and already has around 100 wickets while Mcgrath had only stared his career at this age and was not the most impressive bowler at that time when Mcgrath started.
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Why are you comparing him to McGrath of all people?

Ishant cops a lot of criticism, then he starts bowling ok and you come on here talking about McGrath :facepalm: No wonder he cops it.
 
hur rizvi said:
Gul is a rythm bowler even he is not genuine fast and he was returning after a break fast bowlers do need time to get to theirfull speed and Gul only played one match
neither is wahab a genuine fast bowler who is at least 2-3 mph faster than Ishant ....

I dont care about IPL when was the last time Ishant bowl 90mph in International cricket??
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Ishant is a tall bowler. He does not need to bowl 90 mph plus all the time as his main weapon is bounce he gets. If he can maintain his pace around 87-88 MPH with right line and length he can be very handy against any batting line up in tests, not talking about T20 or ODIs. I would like him to concentrate on tests more rather than ODIs.
 
actually the speed guns are very weird. i even saw broad bowl 95 miles/hr at one point!!!

90 miles/hr is okay but 95???

these speed guns are only guidelines. the doppler's effect can cause quite a bit of inconsistency.
 
hur rizvi said:
I have seen myself tanvir bowling 140kph deliveries in IPL which shows their Pace guns are not right ....

And fast bowlers should be able to bowl fast in any environment .....
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No you are wrong...high altitude and thin environment enables bowlers to bowl faster that is why in Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa fast bowlers are clocked faster on speed guns rather than in India, West Indies, or Srilanka.

fastest ball ever clocked in India is 157KPh which Shaun Tait Clocked in this IPL. Even Shoaib Akhtar, Brett Lee, etc, have not bowled that quick in India even on their peak while they all have clocked faster in Oz, SA, and NZ. Aamir was not even touching 140 in SL while he bowled 150s in Ozz. in WI WC 2007, Tait was barely going over 145-150k while he normally bowls at 150K
 
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Random Aussie said:
Why are you comparing him to McGrath of all people?

Ishant cops a lot of criticism, then he starts bowling ok and you come on here talking about McGrath :facepalm: No wonder he cops it.
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I am not comparing him to Mcgrath. I am just saying when Mcgrath can achieve so much even as he started at 22-23, and he has already got around 100 wickets, he has lot of advantage to emulate Mcgrath.

Have I said, Mcgrath was inferior or anything like that. I did not even say Ishant is better. I just compared both at similar age as how Ishant can be as good as any if he continues to improve.

And I compared him to Mcgrath because I want him to emulate Mcgrath and if he can get even 75% what Mcgrath achieved in his career, he will be a great asset for India.
 
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rkt.india said:
No you are wrong...high altitude and thin environment enables bowlers to bowl faster that is why in Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa fast bowlers are clocked faster on speed guns rather than in India, West Indies, or Srilanka.

fastest ball ever clocked in India is 157KPh which Shaun Tait Clocked in this IPL. Even Shoaib, Abhtar, Brett Lee, etc, have bowled that quick in India even on their peak while they all have clocked faster in Oz, SA, and NZ. Aamier was not even touching 140 in SL while he bowled 150s in Ozz. in WI WC 2007, Tait was barely going over 145-150k while he normally bowls at 150K
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Pitch also helps in bowling faster. In India, ball goes slower after pitching. On a fast pitch, it's just opposite. So a bowler, who bowls around 135 kph in India can easily cross 140 in SA.
 
rkt.india said:
No you are wrong...high altitude and thin environment enables bowlers to bowl faster that is why in Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa fast bowlers are clocked faster on speed guns rather than in India, West Indies, or Srilanka.
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Errrr all of our grounds are at sea level
 
rkt.india said:
I am not comparing him to Mcgrath. I am just saying when Mcgrath can achieve so much even as he started at 22-23, and he has already got around 100 wickets, he has lot of advantage to emulate Mcgrath.

Have I said, Mcgrath was inferior or anything like that. I did not even say Ishant is better. I just compared both at similar age as how Ishant can be as good as any if he continues to improve.

And I compared him to Mcgrath because I want him to emulate Mcgrath and if he can get even 75% what Mcgrath achieved in his career, he will be a great asset for India.
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McGrath played a few games in domestic went straight into the team, was average for about 8 Tests and then started taking wickets at 22, which he continued to do for the next 12 or so years.

Ishant has already played 30 odd Tests, 100ish ODI and probably 100ish T20 (I didn't look this up just a guess).

I just don't see the comparison.

No offence but Ishant is not going to get within a million miles of McGrath's achievements. 500 Test wickets at under 22.
 
Random Aussie said:
McGrath played a few games in domestic went straight into the team, was average for about 8 Tests and then started taking wickets at 22, which he continued to do for the next 12 or so years.

Ishant has already played 30 odd Tests, 47 ODIs and probably 11 T20 internationals (I didn't look this up just a guess).

I just don't see the comparison.

No offence but Ishant is not going to get within a million miles of McGrath's achievements. 500 Test wickets at under 22.
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Corrected numbers..he played so many because he had made his debut for India at 18 years of age.

There is no comparison while Mcgrath mostly Played in fast bouncy Australian and English pitches and Ishant will have to toil hard on slow and low Indian pitches. Ishant will at least take 400 wicket in his test career. This is certain and that will be 75% of McGrath's wickets.

He may not be as great as Mcgrath but how he has troubled Oz batsmen in Australia and as well as at home at such as a young age, indicates that he is going to be India's best fast bowler ever in test cricket if he can maintain his fitness and set his priorities right.
 
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rkt.india said:
Then may not be in Australia but NZ and SA certainly, but it is no secret that bowlers are clocked faster in Australia too rather than subcontinental countries.
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SA yes. England clocks higher speeds than Aus actually.

NZ I suspect their grounds would also be at sea level.

But anytime there is bounce in a pitch, you will get the bowler putting a bit more effort in because of the reward. There is very little point smashing the ball into the wicket in sub continent because the bounce is just not there. Even less so when you bowl on those pitches all the time.

Pakistan bowlers still do, but that is their tradition and speciality.
 
rkt.india said:
Corrected numbers..he played so many because he had made his debut for India at 18 years of age.

There is no comparison while Mcgrath mostly Played in fast bouncy Australian and English pitches and Ishant will have to toil hard on slow and low Indian pitches. Ishant will at least take 400 wicket in his test career. This is certain and that will be 75% of McGrath's wickets.

He may not be as great as Mcgrath but how he has troubled Oz batsmen in Australia and as well as at home at such as a young age, indicates that he is going to be India's best fast bowler ever in test cricket if he can maintain his fitness and set his priorities right.
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Fair enough. Should compare him to Gillespie IMO, very similar bowlers. McGrath & Ishant, not so much.
 
Random Aussie said:
SA yes. England clocks higher speeds than Aus actually.

NZ I suspect their grounds would also be at sea level.

But anytime there is bounce in a pitch, you will get the bowler putting a bit more effort in because of the reward. There is very little point smashing the ball into the wicket in sub continent because the bounce is just not there. Even less so when you bowl on those pitches all the time.

Pakistan bowlers still do, but that is their tradition and speciality.
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Read this about New Zealand

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_country_(New_Zealand)
 
Random Aussie said:
Yes but where are the cricket grounds? Auckland is sea level. So are Christchurch and Wellington if I am not mistaken.
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but when country in itself is high altitude..all grounds may not be high altitude, similar is SA...in England cool conditions help bowlers to put more effort
 
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rkt.india said:
No you are wrong...high altitude and thin environment enables bowlers to bowl faster that is why in Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa fast bowlers are clocked faster on speed guns rather than in India, West Indies, or Srilanka.

fastest ball ever clocked in India is 157KPh which Shaun Tait Clocked in this IPL. Even Shoaib Akhtar, Brett Lee, etc, have not bowled that quick in India even on their peak while they all have clocked faster in Oz, SA, and NZ. Aamir was not even touching 140 in SL while he bowled 150s in Ozz. in WI WC 2007, Tait was barely going over 145-150k while he normally bowls at 150K
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I dont think shoaib has played in India enuff for you to come to this conclusion but in pakistan in similar conditions he has bowled even 160k deliveries
 
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but when country in itself is high altitude..all grounds may not be high altitude, similar is SA...in England cool conditions help bowlers to put more effort
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The country is surrounded by the sea. The cities are by the sea.

Altitude is measured by vertical distance from sea level.
 
rkt.india said:
Ishant is a tall bowler. He does not need to bowl 90 mph plus all the time as his main weapon is bounce he gets. If he can maintain his pace around 87-88 MPH with right line and length he can be very handy against any batting line up in tests, not talking about T20 or ODIs. I would like him to concentrate on tests more rather than ODIs.
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It is not my point ... my point is that ishant is not a bowler who can get wickets by pace ... for a bowler to be called fast he should bowl at least 90mph(which ishant hasnt done in international ckt for long time) otherwise he is a medium pacer but having said that Ishant may turn out to be a very good bowler but will never be remembered for bowling fast ......
Ishant needs to bowl at good line and length and has to swing the ball otherwise his pace is ideal to get smacked all over the park
 
The fact that someone had to audacity to even name a 'gifted' tall useless and MAJOR flop of a bowler who can't even consistently bowl straight lines for about an over, to the legend that is McGrath is out of his mind and needs to stop smoking pot.

thanks, bye.

P.S oh and Ishy bhai will never, ever bowl 100mph, atleast look like you want to bowl fast, atm he looks more of a hobo off the streets. :)
 
pakistandiehardfan said:
The fact that someone had to audacity to even name a 'gifted' tall useless and MAJOR flop of a bowler who can't even consistently bowl straight lines for about an over, to the legend that is McGrath is out of his mind and needs to stop smoking pot.

thanks, bye.

P.S oh and Ishy bhai will never, ever bowl 100mph, atleast look like you want to bowl fast, atm he looks more of a hobo off the streets. :)
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Quite rich the way you keep coming back after you have been owned by Indians in this thread. Why don't you take a Reality Check
 
Arcturus said:
Quite rich the way you keep coming back after you have been owned by Indians in this thread. Why don't you take a Reality Check
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Look's like some indians need to, I mean ISHANT SHARMA bowling 100mph, ye right, you guys need to get a reality check.
 
He meant he wanted to take 100 wickets in test cricket.

Media always trying to build their own stories :yk
 
Actually encouraging to see him do well.
 
I see. Thought that it was referring to bowling faster but that wouldn't make sense since the speed of the delivery is calculated from the hand.
 
Is he a new spinner from India who wants to be a fast bowler, but can't do it, because he does not have it in him like all Indians?
 
Ishant bowling well. Seems to have improved a lot.

17.6 134.6 kph, aaand gone. Has Ishant bowled better than he is on this tour, since that superb spell to Ponting? He's not just producing bounce and movement, he is also out-thinking the batsmen. The previous one was a ripping legcutter from short of a length. He knows Barath is going to be tentative, expecting another jaffa at a similar length. What does Ishant do? He pitches it just a shadeh further up and closer to off stump. Barath is surprised by the length, doesn't get forward, he is caught napping on the crease, and meekly provides the face of the bat, half opened. It flies at Raina crouching at third slip and he takes it well. 55/3
 
I was trying to copy Zaheers Action - Ishant

'I was trying to copy Zaheer's action'

Having lost his way after a sparkling start, Ishant Sharma has returned stronger, wiser and more effective. He credits his senior partner, among others, for his comeback

Interview by Sriram Veera

You seemed to have got your rhythm back in the West Indies?
Rhythm is back. The important thing is, now I am enjoying my bowling. I visualise every ball and what I need to do. I focus on my strengths. I believe in my strengths more now - the pace and bounce. The last one and a half years have been up and down. I struggled a lot. I would just like to continue this form.

Were there times when you wondered about what was going wrong at the start of your run-up?
I was trying to copy Zaheer Khan's action. No doubt he is a great bowler, but I guess I shouldn't have tried to copy his action. We are entirely different in styles. Zaheer told me that I am too much into the technical side of things and that I shouldn't be. Now I just stick to my basics and my strengths. When I started, I was just looking to enjoy and bowl fast. Slowly the expectations grew, my responsibility in the team grew, and I didn't know how to handle that pressure.

When and why were you copying Zaheer?
When South Africa came to play in India, I started to copy him. I wanted to be a swing bowler. I was forgetting my natural strength of bounce and hitting the deck. When I bowl with my natural style, the ball automatically starts to inswing. That was my strong point, and I should have just stuck to that. That was my greatest mistake.

I wanted to swing it from a fuller length and in trying to do that I was copying his action. I thought I can copy his action release, just to get my length fuller. The way I ran, the action, the whole thing got affected.

Did you tell him you were trying to copy his action?
I didn't. I didn't want his bowling to get upset, or for him to feel bad that this was why my bowling was going wrong. I just realised that it's all right to learn things from others but you shouldn't be copying actions.

I had become too technical, instead of being tactical. When you are in the Under-17 stage, if you are concentrating on your technical stuff, it is fine. Your body and muscles accept the changes in action. But when you try to change it later, it gets difficult.

So you lost your rhythm?
Yeah. The ball doesn't land where you want to it to. You forget your positives and your mind starts focusing on the negative. You go into a shell. Everything is going against you. That feeling is really bad. I didn't know why these things were happening, why what I was trying to do was not happening. I didn't realise it then, especially as I was swinging the ball at the start of my career. Even in the second IPL, in South Africa, I felt I was bowling well. Then the bad patch started through World Twenty20 and the New Zealand tour. Things were going bad. I was putting too much pressure on myself.

Did you start to do that in the nets too?
In the nets I used to be relaxed, and I enjoyed it, so I bowled well. In cricket as long as you are relaxed and enjoying yourself and your game, you will do well. In the middle, I had forgotten that. I wasn't focused on the process but more worried about the results. As I had more experience, I became aware of my body and bowling, and things started to improve. That I learnt in the last IPL.

How bad was that phase of struggle? Did you stop laughing and enjoying life?
Yes, I did. During that time, even, say, if I am talking to you, I would be constantly thinking inside about cricket. How should I get that batsman out? What I should do, how I should bowl. I wasn't enjoying it. There was too much pressure. I was almost obsessed with cricket. Too much thinking about a thing isn't good.

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No wonder. While he was an excellent batsman, Abbas was no great shakes as a bowler.
 
kingusama92 said:
Watch him go back to his mediocre best against better opposition.
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Can't agree more. Ishant is more or less finished, at least it appears so. Though I'd be very pleasantly surprised if he manages to take any more than 10 wickets in coming Eng series, that is if he gets picked for all 4 tests.
 
That's why direct copy/paste option should be avoided in cricket. Its not computer that you get the exact result and even if you don't want it later, just push ctrl+z and revert back to original.... Youngsters should take a lesson from him. Making someone idol and copying someone is two different things.
 
Woah. He takes a few wickets vs West Indies, and now he's back making media statements again. Does he want another 'I want to bowl 100mph' debacle?


Fully agree with kingusama92.
 
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Why would any bowler want to copy another bowler's action when playing at a professional level? Sounds asinine to me.
 
He will be an asset to Indian team and if he controls his length well in england he might turn out to be the match-winner. I am expecting a lot from him at the moment.
 
First he was saying something ridiculous about fitness and his recent realisation of its importance for a fast bowler. Now the twit says that he was trying to copy someone else's action. Is he retarded? Are the coaches not doing their job? Has verbal diarrhoea got the better of him? Has the weight of that ghastly hair finally jellied that 'mind' of his? Or a combination of the 4?

Get a haircut, lad. Short back and sides.
 
Blitz said:
Woah. He takes a few wickets vs West Indies, and now he's back making media statements again. Does he want another 'I want to bowl 100mph' debacle?


Fully agree with kingusama92.
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Should there be a minimum wicket requirement before players are allowed to give interviews?

For the record, I fully agree with Usama too - Ishant is too physically and mentally fragile at the moment to succeed for any length of time in test cricket.

Hopefully that will change with age though.
 
Hope he bowls consistently over a long period of time. Consistency is the key for him in various aspects, like bowling in right channels, maintain the pace and hopefully be injury free.

The guy has the ability to succeed at the highest level but needs to have strong temperament to come out of failures which are bound to happen once in a while. All the best to Ishant.
 
Ishant is not a smart individual. Why would a bowler who averages 35+ want to copy a bowler action who averages 32? One poor bowler trying to copy another average test bowler. Ishant should have set high standards and copy bowlers like Steyn or Asif who average below 25.
 
I actually think that if he remains fit and keeps his new found rhythm, he should do pretty well in the England series, especially with his mentor back. I'll take the same # of wickets he has against the WI right now (18) at even 2 times the average (current series ~14).
 
skittles said:
I actually think that if he remains fit and keeps his new found rhythm, he should do pretty well in the England series, especially with his mentor back. I'll take the same # of wickets he has against the WI right now (18) at even 2 times the average (current series ~14).
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Ishant bowled with his mentor in SA as well where pitches are best for pacers and he averaged almost 50. Everybody looks in good rhythm against a ranked 7th side. Ask :hafeez
 
Sir_Afridi said:
Ishant bowled with his mentor in SA as well where pitches are best for pacers and he averaged almost 50. Everybody looks in good rhythm against a ranked 7th side. Ask :hafeez
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So how did Pak seamers fare against the same no 7 ranked team?
 
Sir_Afridi said:
Ishant bowled with his mentor in SA as well where pitches are best for pacers and he averaged almost 50. Everybody looks in good rhythm against a ranked 7th side. Ask :hafeez
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What if I ask :gul :tanvir and :wahab?

If you see his interview, he says he started feeling good about his bowling again after this years IPL, which was much after the SA tour. So...
 
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