Ishant Sharma: "I want to bowl at 100MPH"

[Kenyan Desi]

He wasn't the highest wicket taker in the World Cup, it was officially Afridi since he had a better average (and Played less mathces) .

And its official.

And being a member of the winning team doesn't make a player a better bowler. Even Zahid Fazal has won a world cup, but doesn't make him a better batsmen.

He was top seamer wicket taker. He also featured in the World XI.

 

[No_Username]

who won this world cup Afridi or Zaheer? If you are a top wicket taker and your team thrown out of the semifinals, what is the use of those wickets. Its like sachin scoring century and losing the game

What a pathetic post.

Its not his fault that the Batsmen failed.

But atleast you admited that India loses when Sachin scores a century.

 

[Showman]

Nobody can break Mohammad Sami's record

[utube]P-JMsvfrJ6s[/utube]

 

[Hando]

I am really surprised to see the way Ishant has been bowling this IPL. Now he has got his moyo back. I remember few years ago, he used to bowl like is in Australia and few series after that aus tour.

 

[TheHK16]

Nobody can break Mohammad Sami's record

[utube]P-JMsvfrJ6s[/utube]

that looked very fast just look at the zip of the glove

 

[s2k]

Zaheer Khan has very bad test record, much worse than Gul.

get a reality check.

Zaheer 271 wickkets @ 31

Gul 125 wickets @ 33

Both hv a S/R of 58

You need a reality check.....

 

[Arcturus]

What a pathetic post.

Its not his fault that the Batsmen failed.

But atleast you admited that India loses when Sachin scores a century.

Agree with the bold part but then you had to take a cheap dig at Sachin.

Your dig defeats the very logic you gave in defending Afridi.

Using your logic I could say:
Its not Sachin's fault when Batsmen/Bowlers fail.
But atleast you admited that Pakistan loses when Afridi takes wickets.

 

[pakistandiehardfan]

Zaheer 271 wickkets @ 31

Gul 125 wickets @ 33

Both hv a S/R of 58

You need a reality check.....

Zaheer averages 29 in ODI's, wheras Gul averages 25 in odi's.

 

[Arcturus]

Pakistandiehardfan are you a masochist? Do you get high when people tear your arguments to shreds?

You say Zaheer has very bad test record much worse than Gul.
Your statement is blown to hell and back by s2k's post and your response is to next quote ODI stats all the while laughing maniacally.

In future do some reseacrh before you post such statements

Originally Posted by pakistandiehardfan
Zaheer Khan has very bad test record, much worse than Gul.

get a reality check.

Zaheer 271 wickkets @ 31

Gul 125 wickets @ 33

Both hv a S/R of 58

You need a reality check.....

Zaheer averages 29 in ODI's, wheras Gul averages 25 in odi's.

 

[No_Username]

Agree with the bold part but then you had to take a cheap dig at Sachin.

Your dig defeats the very logic you gave in defending Afridi.

Using your logic I could say:
Its not Sachin's fault when Batsmen/Bowlers fail.
But atleast you admited that Pakistan loses when Afridi takes wickets.

, saw this smiley?

 

[Arcturus]

Oh I saw it and was waiting for you to bring it up.

Make a puerile point which echoes your long-held position that Sachin is selfish and his centuries are in losing causes because of his playing style.

Next include a emoticon at the end as a caveat and to give oneself a escape route in case someone takes umbrage.

 

[Superman1]

Ishant Sharma is a midcore bowler & will remain midcore, as far as Zaheer is concern, on Indian bowling standard he is legend for Indians, but on international standard he is good decent bowler nothing more than that.

 

[Taimur]

2009: Test Matches

I Sharma: 8 Wickets at 41.75. Economy: 3.54 SR: 70.7

Y Khan : 5 Wickets at 27.60. Economy: 3.45 SR: 48.0


I'd have to give it to Younus Khan. Any suggestions for a better comparison?>

Nice!!!

 

[Taimur]

Dream on Ishant im sure that while you are not and will not be as fast or faster than Lee/Tait/Akhtar/Roach, you can try to bowl as quick or faster than

 

[Sir_Afridi]

ishant sharma is a midcore bowler & will remain midcore, as far as zaheer is concern, on indian bowling standard he is legend for indians, but on international standard he is good decent bowler nothing more than that.

+1.

 

[madhurjyaadhikary]

Zaheer Khan has very bad test record, much worse than Gul.

get a reality check.

Zaheer 271 wickkets @ 31

Gul 125 wickets @ 33

Both hv a S/R of 58

You need a reality check.....

Zaheer averages 29 in ODI's, wheras Gul averages 25 in odi's.

) ) ) This must be the most hilarious back tracking in the history of this forum. How in the world did you even make your last post after being slapped right on the face with some reality check by s2k?

 

[Taimur]

Zaheer is a decent bowler

 

[style_guru]

Dream on Ishant im sure that while you are not and will not be as fast or faster than Lee/Tait/Akhtar/Roach, you can try to bowl as quick or faster than

What's the need to bowl fast when you can get Pakistani batsman out by bowling 120 Km deliveries

 

[Bhaijaan]

What's the need to bowl fast when you can get Pakistani batsman out by bowling 120 Km deliveries

Good one

 

[Taimur]

What's the need to bowl fast when you can get Pakistani batsman out by bowling 120 Km deliveries

I know mate you Indians always produce bloody batsmen!!!

Tendu, Sunny, Amarnath, Dravid, Shewag, VVS, Yuvi, MS, Ghambhir while our batting sucks. Younis is past his best and we have only really had Saeed Anwar, Mohammad Yousuf and Inzamam who were the only topclass batsmen.

PEACE

 

[cardinalsfan]

) ) ) This must be the most hilarious back tracking in the history of this forum. How in the world did you even make your last post after being slapped right on the face with some reality check by s2k?

he has been a punching bag for some of the indian fans here. he comes up with lame post and getting owned by indian fans.

I feel sorry for that guy, but he never learns.

 

[Howzat]

Pakistandiehardfan are you a masochist? Do you get high when people tear your arguments to shreds?

You say Zaheer has very bad test record much worse than Gul.
Your statement is blown to hell and back by s2k's post and your response is to next quote ODI stats all the while laughing maniacally.

In future do some reseacrh before you post such statements

) ) ) This must be the most hilarious back tracking in the history of this forum. How in the world did you even make your last post after being slapped right on the face with some reality check by s2k?

This is hilarious.

 

[Arcturus]

^ This guy's middle name should be Reality Check. Saw a post by him in another thread ending with something like "India will get the reality check"

 

[BaaliSoda]

^ This guy's middle name should be Reality Check. Saw a post by him in another thread ending with something like "India will get the reality check"

Good one there, Arc

He seems to have intense hatred for anything and everything that is India (BTW, he is only 16 years old according to his profile here in pp)

 

[Howzat]

I find it a little difficult to understand why there is a 9-page thread on this. A young bowler says that he wants to (not claims that he definitely will) bowl fast. Whats the big deal in that? Don't we all aim for some good things in our career? Don't we all set ourselves some big goals that we may or may not achieve? He did not say "I will take the MOM in world cup final" or "I will run though blah and blah batting lineup". He did not make tall and false claims about his skills. He merely shared one of his dreams. 9 pages on that??

 

[PerfectionPersonified]

Great Performance by the lad last night

 

[jazba]

Ishant has been a revelation this season. Perhaps Wasim was confusing him last year?

 

[Warfare]

Zaheer is a decent bowler

He's much more than a "decent bowler"

 

[Sir_Afridi]

He's much more than a "decent bowler"

more than decent bowlers dont average in mid 30s in test cricket.

 

[Acim]

I find it a little difficult to understand why there is a 9-page thread on this. A young bowler says that he wants to (not claims that he definitely will) bowl fast. Whats the big deal in that? Don't we all aim for some good things in our career? Don't we all set ourselves some big goals that we may or may not achieve? He did not say "I will take the MOM in world cup final" or "I will run though blah and blah batting lineup". He did not make tall and false claims about his skills. He merely shared one of his dreams. 9 pages on that??

It's Ind-Pak thing you should know that.

 

[Acim]

Ishant has been a revelation this season. Perhaps Wasim was confusing him last year?

A bit like every idiot is confused by what Einstein did?

 

[SG]

I can't ever forgive Ishant for bowling utter dross on the last day of 3rd test against SA earlier this year.

We had such a good chance to finally win a test series in SA but couldn't largely due to sheer incompetence of Ishant.

 

[cricket_coach]

First try to get selected to national side. Or has he started making money selling spiced up stories

 

[Indiafan]

more than decent bowlers dont average in mid 30s in test cricket.

Many good batsmen and bowlers who became very good towards the later part of their careers. Zaheer is one of them. He will end up with a good record provied he doesn't succumb to injuries

 

[Indiafan]

He wasn't the highest wicket taker in the World Cup, it was officially Afridi since he had a better average (and Played less mathces) .

And its official.

And being a member of the winning team doesn't make a player a better bowler. Even Zahid Fazal has won a world cup, but doesn't make him a better batsmen.

I think he meant among seamers. And you have to remember that he plyed all his matches on unhelful Indian wickets while most of Afridi's wickets were on helpful Sri Lankan wickets.

 

[Howzat]

It's Ind-Pak thing you should know that.

And don't we make a mess of most threads on the name of that?

 

[Cosmic]

I think he meant among seamers. And you have to remember that he plyed all his matches on unhelful Indian wickets while most of Afridi's wickets were on helpful Sri Lankan wickets.

On Same Pitch Versus India Mr.Wahab Riaz Wreck ur powerful batting Zaheer didn,t do much except 2 wickets not by himself but with batsman playing wrong shots

 

[Acim]

And don't we make a mess of most threads on the name of that?

Not just threads.

 

[kak196]

On Same Pitch Versus India Mr.Wahab Riaz Wreck ur powerful batting Zaheer didn,t do much except 2 wickets not by himself but with batsman playing wrong shots

When Wahab Riaz takes wickets its because of his talent. If Zaheer Khan takes wickets it is because of batsman playing wrong shots. Grapes are still fresh.

 

[shehzadd]

zaheer khan is, ''Andhon mein kana raja''. Best indian fast bowler India has ever produced. He is way better than kapil.
But at pak or Aus bowling standard he is not good enough to be selected as a long term bowling option.

 

[Impala_KaifTamasha]

He's much more than a "decent bowler"

more than decent bowlers dont average in mid 30s in test cricket.

Owned.

 

[JibranAnsari]

Zaheer khan on the current form basis can be selected for any top bowling team , including south africa , pakistan , australia and england.

 

[Impala_KaifTamasha]

^ Yep, he is a top bowler NOW. But by going by stats he is less than decent.

Cricket isnt a game played by stats.

 

[neo87]

^ Yep, he is a top bowler NOW. But by going by stats he is less than decent.

Cricket isnt a game played by stats.

Thats why you still persist with . lol

 

[iHammad]

Mr 100 MPH got smacked today in IPL

I Sharma 4 0 41 0 10.25

Gave 3 consecutive sixes to Albie Morkel.

 

[Crazy_K]

Oh man those sixes were glorious
Ishant back to his usual self haha
3 length deliveries in a row
Someone get a video up, those sixes were worth seeing, reminded me of Eng-SA game I think in the 1st T20 WC, where Albie hit some monsters

 

[Bhaijaan]

Albie is a real good hitter man, good hitting that but nothing against Sharma. Thats the way it goes in T20s

 

[pakistandiehardfan]

Albie is a real good hitter man, good hitting that but nothing against Sharma. Thats the way it goes in T20s

The excuses come out again. Look. He will never hit 100mph, nor will he be a good test or ODI bowler - fact. He doesn't even play for India though?

 

[12cavalry]

Every time some one bumps this thread, i check it out thinking Ishant has atlast bowled that 100 mph delivey.
Btw is that Varun guy playing in the IPL? if yes, how has he fared so far?

 

[Crazy_K]

No harm in aiming high
I guess all you losers live life satisfied with what you have and never look to better yourself
Seriously I find it ridiculous when people are mocking someone who wants to achieve something, yeh it maybe impossible, but with hard work, he can get pretty close

 

[pakistandiehardfan]

No harm in aiming high
I guess all you losers live life satisfied with what you have and never look to better yourself
Seriously I find it ridiculous when people are mocking someone who wants to achieve something, yeh it maybe impossible, but with hard work, he can get pretty close

Pls snap back into reality. Aiming for something is different than dreaming about it.

 

[Sir_Afridi]

Ishant learned nothing in his break. Remains a hack at international level.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Too expensive for limited overs cricket

 

[Warfare]

How phasst was he today?

 

[velu]

How phasst was he today?

phasst for our standards, but no where near to your stds

 

[Fireworks11]

Still some way to go to challenge the speed king.

 

[KingKhanWC]

He needs to forget pace and bowl straight, just what my coach told me when I was 6 years old.

 

[pakistandiehardfan]

This thread should be closed ; forever.

 

[Sledger]

70 miles down, just 30 to go.

 

[Fireworks11]

He needs to forget pace and bowl straight, just what my coach told me when I was 6 years old.

Yes, raw pace is a natual phenomenon only blessed to a few lucky ones.

 

[Hasnain_786]

yet this legendary thread continues on

 

[Fireworks11]

yet this legendary thread continues on

You forgot your facepalm, when needed most.

 

[talha3]

Jokes aside...

To be fair to him he bowled the fastest ball of the match (including WI bowlers (roach, russel)) at 89.5 mph.

 

[rkt.india]

Ishant what a come back! bowling fast and getting extra bounce.

 

[cric_fan82]

I can't ever forgive Ishant for bowling utter dross on the last day of 3rd test against SA earlier this year.

We had such a good chance to finally win a test series in SA but couldn't largely due to sheer incompetence of Ishant.

i can never forget that spell from him! cost us the series!!
utter rubbish

 

[AlizeeFan]

In the 1st test he was bowling mostly 85-90 Mph. That's decent speed, but he needs to be more effective in wicket taking dept.

 

[Shayan]

This thread should be closed ; forever.

After the way in which you've been owned in this thread, you probably shouldn't post in it.

Interesting that you haven't replied to the way in which you severely backtracked regarding the Zaheer Gul issue earlier!!

 

[AlizeeFan]

One can better idea of his speed with this

 

[AfridiZindabad]

I think working with steyn has done wonders for him, but then again we have seen Indian bowlers come in and have a blast for a season and then fade away for years.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Pace is over rated raveen

 

[testcricketisbest]

Ishant Sharma is a midcore bowler & will remain midcore, as far as Zaheer is concern, on Indian bowling standard he is legend for Indians, but on international standard he is good decent bowler nothing more than that.

who is the pakistani bowler is who is half good as Zaheer now.

 

[shahidafridi123]

lol what a stupid thread, he's never going to get there , No one can beat our Sami's record!

 

[Poison]

He bowled pretty quickly in the 1st Test. I was impress

 

[Hasnain_786]

You forgot your facepalm, when needed most.

 

[rkt.india]

I think working with steyn has done wonders for him, but then again we have seen Indian bowlers come in and have a blast for a season and then fade away for years.

Steyn has not helped him which Steyn had himself admitted in an Interview during IPL. Ishant was fast even in 200-2009, but since T2-WC 2009 England, he changed his action a little bit to be able to bowl outswingers and leg cutters which proved proved costly for him and he was not able to control the ball was falling to left side and had also lost pace.

But after SA tour, he talked to his local coach who asked him what things you were doing better when you bowling well. Coach asked him to go back to his old approach and then after SA tour he player IPL and was back to his original self bowling fast again and effectively. He is not yet that consistent but is troubling the batsmen and bowling some unplayable deliveries.

 

[CORNERED-TIGER]

lol is this joke?
100mph? and ishant the medium pacer lol im sure he had ment i wan ball 88pmh some one miss printed it

 

[cricketfanfirst]

Ishant bowled well in the first test against WI touching around 88-89 mph. That pace is enough to trouble, provided he maintains good line and length. He should learn from McGrath, who extracted good bounce and used line and length to trouble batsmen. You don't need express pace to trouble the batsmen. Of late, he started to pitch the ball to the batsmen rather than banging on the length all the time.

 

[hur rizvi]

Ishant bowled at good pace b/w 85-90mph but still he didnt bowl even one delivery over 90mph ....
that is decent pace but nothing spectacular....... all pakistani bowlers bowl at this speed but we dont say they are fast .....

Ishant is a decent bowler but he is not a genuine fast bowler and will never be because genuine fast bowlers are born fast they cant be made...

 

[hur rizvi]

Ishant bowled well in the first test against WI touching around 88-89 mph. That pace is enough to trouble, provided he maintains good line and length. He should learn from McGrath, who extracted good bounce and used line and length to trouble batsmen. You don't need express pace to trouble the batsmen. Of late, he started to pitch the ball to the batsmen rather than banging on the length all the time.

I agree with you Ishant needs to realize that pace is not his domain no one can trouble international batsman with pace by bowling b/w 85-89 mph ... at this pace he needs to learn how to swing the ball and bowl at line and length to trouble good teams

 

[cricketfanfirst]

Ishant bowled at good pace b/w 85-90mph but still he didnt bowl even one delivery over 90mph ....
that is decent pace but nothing spectacular....... all pakistani bowlers bowl at this speed but we dont say they are fast .....

Ishant is a decent bowler but he is not a genuine fast bowler and will never be because genuine fast bowlers are born fast they cant be made...

Yes, mostly fast bowlers start with raw pace and as you said they are more or less have this express pace starting at first class level itself. Few exceptions, I can remember to this are Imran and Flintoff. I think Imran bowled at decent pace from 1971-75. But, he started to bowl express pace from the tour of Australia in 1976-77. By, early 1980s he must have been one of the fastest bowlers in the world along with Marshall, Holding etc.

Also, in case of Flintoff, if I remember correctly he used to bowl at good pace but once in a while, when he wanted to, bowled at mid 90mphs like against Australia in 2005 and also in one series against India.

In case of Ishant, he should first perfect the art of bowling well consistently in tests over a period of time, then he can try to improve it gradually. At the end of the day, he should remember getting wickets is priority not bowling at 90s and being wicketless.