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What will be the outcome of the USA vs Iran negotiations in Islamabad?

  • Everlasting peace

    Votes: 1 14.3%
  • Talks will fail and war will resume

    Votes: 6 85.7%

  • Total voters
    7
US and Iran fail to reach a deal after marathon talks in Pakistan

The United States and Iran have failed to reach a deal after high-stakes talks in the Pakistani capital, with Vice President JD Vance saying Tehran refused to accept Washington’s terms after 21 hours of negotiations in Islamabad.

“The bad news is that we have not reached an agreement, and I think that’s bad news for Iran much more than it’s bad news for the United States of America,” Vance, the head of the US delegation, told reporters shortly before he left Islamabad after the highest-level meeting between Washington and Tehran since the 1979 Islamic revolution.

He said Iran chose “not to accept our terms”, adding that the US needs to see a “fundamental commitment” from Tehran not to develop nuclear weapons.

“We need to see an affirmative commitment that they will not seek a nuclear weapon, and they will not seek the tools that would enable them to quickly achieve a nuclear weapon,” Vance said.

Al Jazeera’s John Hendren, reporting from Washington, DC, said the fact that President Donald Trump sent Vance showed the US was taking these talks seriously.

“The fact that Vance left doesn’t necessarily mean that the talks are over,” he said, adding that the main sticking points seem to be the Strait of Hormuz, which Iran continues to control, and the gaps in the nuclear issue.

“The US has been negotiating with Iran over time; those talks can continue remotely, and leaving those talks may simply be a hard stance,” the Al Jazeera correspondent added.

Hendren said the US is demanding not just that Iran pledge that it will not develop nuclear weapons, but also that it will not even try to access those tools, adding that such gaps made the talks in the mid-2010s take years to negotiate.

Tehran expects contacts to continue

Iran’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs said on Sunday that no one had expected the talks with the US to reach an agreement in a single session.

“Naturally, from the beginning, we should not have expected to reach an agreement in a single session. No one had such an expectation,” ministry spokesperson Esmaeil Baghaei said, according to state broadcaster IRIB.

He said Tehran was “confident that contacts between us and Pakistan, as well as our other friends in the region, will continue”.

Al Jazeera’s Tohid Asadi, reporting from Tehran, said the Iranian side did not share information on the technicalities or other details pertaining to the points of controversy in the talks.

“Previously, the domain of the talks between Washington and Iran was concentrated upon the nuclear dossier and stockpile of highly enriched uranium, and that was a matter of controversy in the previous rounds of negotiations,” he said.

“But this time, we’re dealing with a rather comprehensive approach when it comes to other issues; and obviously, with that comprehensiveness comes other controversial issues,” said the Al Jazeera correspondent, adding that rival sides are looking to address many subjects from the Strait of Hormuz to security assurances.

As well as the release of frozen assets abroad, Tehran is demanding control of the Strait of Hormuz, payment of war reparations, and a ceasefire across the region, including in Lebanon, according to Iranian state TV and officials.

However, US ally Israel has refused to stop its brutal offensive against the Hezbollah group in Lebanon. Tehran says the ceasefire agreed last week includes the war in Lebanon, but the US and Israel have both rejected it. The initial post by Pakistani Prime Minister Shahbaz Sharif announcing the ceasefire deal included Lebanon.

As the talks were under way in Islamabad, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Israel’s military campaign against Iran was not over. “Israel under my leadership will continue to fight Iran’s terror regime and its proxies,” he said in a post on X.

Netanyahu also said Israel is seeking a deal with Lebanon. Reports say Yechiel Leiter, the Israeli ambassador to the US, has spoken to the Lebanese envoy in Washington, DC, for the first time. In a statement, Leiter said Israel would not accept a ceasefire with Hezbollah.

Call for continued truce

Meanwhile, Pakistan has called on the US and Iran to uphold their commitment to the ceasefire and continue efforts to achieve a durable peace.

“On behalf of Pakistan, I would like to express gratitude to the two sides for appreciating Pakistan’s efforts to achieve a ceasefire and its mediator role. We hope that the two sides continue with a positive spirit to achieve durable peace and prosperity for the entire region and beyond,” Pakistan’s Foreign Minister Ishaq Dar said.

Al Jazeera’s Osama Bin Javaid, reporting from Islamabad, said that in the framework proposed by Iran before the talks, there was no mention of a complete surrender of nuclear ambitions.

“But what the US is essentially asking Iran now is that they give up their right to any nuclear programme, even for medical purposes,” he said.

“There is a sea of mistrust that they are trying to build bridges over, and statements like this and leaving the negotiations with an ultimatum are not going to help bridge those divides,” he said.

The US and Israel launched a war on Iran on February 28 that expanded to the wider Middle East region, with Tehran carrying out retaliatory attacks on Israel and neighbouring Gulf countries hosting US assets. More than 2,000 people were killed, and military and civilian areas were damaged in the US-Israeli attacks on Iran.

The war began despite several rounds of talks between Washington and Tehran. Oman, the mediator, said the war started despite a deal “within reach”. Experts have said the war violated international laws. A landmark nuclear deal signed between the US and Iran in 2015 was scrapped during Trump’s first term as president.

The war also caused a global energy crisis after Iran put a chokehold on the Strait of Hormuz, through which some 20 percent of the world’s oil and gas exports pass.

The US delegation, led by Vance, and the Iranian delegation, led by Parliament Speaker Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf, had discussed how to advance a ceasefire already threatened by deep disagreements and Israel’s continued attacks against the Lebanese group Hezbollah.

Israeli strikes have continued across southern Lebanon, with at least six people killed in the Tyre district in the latest attack.

 

UK PM Starmer calls for US and Iran to 'find a way through' after failed talk

UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer urges both Iran and the US to "find a way through" following failed talks in Pakistan, Downing Street says.

In a conversation with the Sultan of Oman Starmer says a continuation of the ceasefire is "vital" and that "all parties avoided any further escalation".

It comes after UK Health Secretary Wes Streeting told the BBC's Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg programme it is "disappointing" initial talks to end the war in Iran had broken down without a deal.

Streeting defended the UK's decision not to join the conflict.
 
You havwe to be a special kind of stupid and evil to not want peace even if your sworn enemies are the ones who broker or mediate it.

As much as I hate everything about our establishment and their puppets in government, they did the right thing.

But the negotiations were ALWAYS going to fail and will continue to fail because:


1. Israel doesn't want peace
2. The goals of both Iran and the US are too far apart.
 
One weekend was never going to be sufficient to bridge the gaps. They have two weeks and even that arbitrary timeline can be extended.

Trump in the midst of his usual digital diarrhoea said they agreed on most points, but the stumbling block is the nuclear issue.

If only there was a prior nuclear deal that set uranium enrichment limits, had a rigorous regime of international inspections to ensure compliance, restricted the number of centrifuges...oh wait.
 
BREAKING: US President Donald Trump has said in a Truth Social post that Washington remains “locked and loaded” and its military will “finish up” Iran at the “appropriate moment,” after no deal was reached in Pakistan.

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BREAKING: Hours after the US-Iran talks in Islamabad failed, President Trump has warned that US forces will immediately “begin the process of BLOCKADING any and all Ships trying to enter, or leave, the Strait of Hormuz.”

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BREAKING: US President Donald Trump has said in a Truth Social post that Washington remains “locked and loaded” and its military will “finish up” Iran at the “appropriate moment,” after no deal was reached in Pakistan.

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Guy was desperate for a deal, now he will try to throw his toys out of pram threatening to kill more people.
 
Iranian Delegation Departs After Participating in Islamabad Talks

Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Muhammad Ishaq Dar, Chief of Army Staff and Chief of Defence Forces, Field Marshal Syed Asim Munir, and National Assembly Speaker Sardar Ayaz Sadiq, Interior Minister Mohsin Naqvi bid farewell to the Iranian delegation.

The Iranian delegation included Majlis Shura Speaker Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf and Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi.

 
BREAKING: Hours after the US-Iran talks in Islamabad failed, President Trump has warned that US forces will immediately “begin the process of BLOCKADING any and all Ships trying to enter, or leave, the Strait of Hormuz.”

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Surprised it didn’t happen earlier. :kp
 
BREAKING: Hours after the US-Iran talks in Islamabad failed, President Trump has warned that US forces will immediately “begin the process of BLOCKADING any and all Ships trying to enter, or leave, the Strait of Hormuz.”

Al Jazeera

So .. the Islamabad talks actually made the situation worse, the rest of the world will not get hormuz oil now. Thanks Pakistan. :rolleyes:
 

US, Iranian teams could return to Islamabad for peace talks this week, multiple sources say​


ISLAMABAD, April 14 (Reuters) - Negotiating teams from the U.S. and Iran could return to Pakistan later this week to resume negotiations to end the war in the Gulf, Pakistani and Iranian officials said on Tuesday, days after the first peace talks ended without a breakthrough.
There was no immediate confirmation from U.S. officials about the plans, which the Iranian and Pakistani officials discussed on condition of anonymity.

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A source who has been involved in the talks said a proposal had been sent to Washington and Tehran ⁠for the delegations to return to Islamabad to resume discussions. No date had yet been decided but both countries could return as early as the end of this week.
An official at the Iranian embassy in Islamabad said: "The coming rounds of talks can come sometime later this week or earlier next week. But nothing is finalised as of now."

Earlier, a senior Iranian source told Reuters: "No firm date has been set, with the delegations keeping Friday through Sunday open."
A senior Pakistani official said Islamabad had reached out to Iran "and we got a positive response that they will be open to a second round of talks".

The official and a second Pakistani source said Islamabad was communicating with both sides about the timing of the next ‌round, ⁠and the meeting would be likely to take place over the coming weekend.

Last weekend's meeting in Pakistan's capital to resolve the conflict between the U.S. and Iran, held four days after the announcement of a ceasefire, reached no breakthrough. It was the first direct encounter between U.S. and Iranian officials in more than a decade, and the most senior engagement since Iran's 1979 Islamic Revolution.

Pakistan's foreign ministry, military ⁠and prime minister's office did not respond to a Reuters request for comment. The White House also did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

U.S. Vice President JD Vance and Iranian Parliamentary Speaker Mohammad Baqer Qalibaf led their respective delegations in the last round ⁠of talks.

Issues under contention include the Strait of Hormuz, a major transit point for global energy supplies that Iran has effectively blocked but the U.S. has vowed to reopen, as well as Iran's nuclear programme and international sanctions on Tehran.

Vance told reporters ⁠after the talks ended: "We leave here with a very simple proposal, a method of understanding that is our final and best offer."
"We'll see if the Iranians accept it."

Source: Reuters
 
US President Donald Trump on Tuesday indicated that a second round of talks between Washington and Tehran could take place “over the next two days.”

US President Donald Trump on Tuesday indicated that a second round of talks between Washington and Tehran could take place “over the next two days,” suggesting Pakistan may once again host the negotiations. He also praised Pakistan Army chief Field Marshal Asim Munir, crediting his role in facilitating the diplomatic push.

“You should stay there, really, because something could be happening over the next two days, and we're more inclined to go there,” he said. “It's more likely, you know why? Because the field marshal is doing a great job,” he told New York Post.

"He's fantastic, and therefore it's more likely that we go back there," he said.

"Why should we go to some country that has nothing to do with it?"


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US President Donald Trump on Tuesday indicated that a second round of talks between Washington and Tehran could take place “over the next two days.”

US President Donald Trump on Tuesday indicated that a second round of talks between Washington and Tehran could take place “over the next two days,” suggesting Pakistan may once again host the negotiations. He also praised Pakistan Army chief Field Marshal Asim Munir, crediting his role in facilitating the diplomatic push.

“You should stay there, really, because something could be happening over the next two days, and we're more inclined to go there,” he said. “It's more likely, you know why? Because the field marshal is doing a great job,” he told New York Post.

"He's fantastic, and therefore it's more likely that we go back there," he said.

"Why should we go to some country that has nothing to do with it?"


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Lol some people may get heart attack for it. Anyway peace deal should be appreciated. Given idiotic trump and bibi already had enough sticks
 
Lol some people may get heart attack for it. Anyway peace deal should be appreciated. Given idiotic trump and bibi already had enough sticks
There was a metting ongoing between USA and Iran when this war started . Mediator were Qatar, Oman .. just saying. .

War will end when Israel agree with it. All these talk are useless untill Israel haven't participate.

:klopp :kp
 
US, Iran may resume talks this week despite port blockade

Talks to end the Iran war could resume in Pakistan over the next two days, U.S. President Donald Trump said on Tuesday, after the collapse of weekend negotiations prompted Washington to impose a blockade on Iranian ports.

Gulf, Pakistani and Iranian officials also said negotiating teams from the U.S. and Iran ‌could return to Pakistan later this week, though one senior Iranian source said no date had been set.

"You should stay there, really, because something could be happening over the next two days, and we're more inclined to go there," Trump was quoted as saying in an interview with the New York Post.

While the U.S. blockade drew angry rhetoric from Tehran, signs that diplomatic engagement might continue helped calm oil markets, pushing benchmark prices below $100 on Tuesday.

The highest-level talks between the two adversaries since the 1979 Islamic Revolution ended in Islamabad without a breakthrough, raising doubts over the survival of a two-week ceasefire that still has a week to run.

Since the United States and Israel began the war on February 28, Iran effectively shut the Strait of Hormuz to nearly all vessels except its own, saying passage would be permitted only under Iranian control and subject to a fee. Nearly a fifth of global oil and gas supplies previously flowed ⁠through the narrow waterway, making the fallout widespread.


 
The moment trump mentions pakistan, dolund my phrend has a desperate tweet to share
 

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He’s not clueless, he knows exactly who he’s talking to. His messaging is clearly aimed at audiences that align with Hindutva, a base that’s large and politically influential in India today. You can see that influence not just in election outcomes, but also in majority of the media that tend to echo the government’s line, what critics often call “godi media.”
 
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You should stay in Islamabad - something could be happening, Trump told reporter

Talks between the US and Iran could restart "in the next two days", Donald Trump has said, in an interview with the New York Post., external

The paper said that, in an initial phone interview, the US president said discussions were "happening, but, you know, a little bit slow" - before indicating more talks could happen in Europe.

About half an hour later, the paper says, Trump called their reporter back.

"You should stay there [Islamabad, where talks previously happened], really, because something could be happening over the next two days, and we’re more inclined to go there," he said.

"It’s more likely, you know why? Because the field marshal is doing a great job."

Trump was referring to Pakistan Field Marshal Gen Asim Munir - who he has previously called his "favourite".

BBC
 
@Devadwal where is Modi 😭😭😭

Iran’s Araghchi receives Pakistani army chief in Tehran​

Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi has welcomed a Pakistani delegation led by army chief Asim Munir.

Iranian state TV reported earlier that the high-ranking Pakistani delegation would bring a new message from Washington and was due to discuss a second round of talks.

Araqchi (right) receives Pakistani Army Commander Asim Munir upon his arrival in Tehran

Iran’s Araghchi receives Pakistani army chief in Tehran

Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi has welcomed a Pakistani delegation led by army chief Asim Munir.
Iranian state TV reported earlier that the high-ranking Pakistani delegation would bring a new message from Washington and was due to discuss a second round of talks.
Araqchi (right) receives Pakistani Army Commander Asim Munir upon his arrival in Tehran


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@Devadwal where is Modi 😭😭😭

Iran’s Araghchi receives Pakistani army chief in Tehran​

Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi has welcomed a Pakistani delegation led by army chief Asim Munir.

Iranian state TV reported earlier that the high-ranking Pakistani delegation would bring a new message from Washington and was due to discuss a second round of talks.

Araqchi (right) receives Pakistani Army Commander Asim Munir upon his arrival in Tehran

Iran’s Araghchi receives Pakistani army chief in Tehran

Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi has welcomed a Pakistani delegation led by army chief Asim Munir.
Iranian state TV reported earlier that the high-ranking Pakistani delegation would bring a new message from Washington and was due to discuss a second round of talks.
Araqchi (right) receives Pakistani Army Commander Asim Munir upon his arrival in Tehran


Al Jazeera
Modi is enjoying the india success and doing betterment for india unlike Munira who is begging for a loan to pay the another loan.

Aaur kuch ? Rahi bat asi meeting ki wo to war se pehle se hoti aa rahi hai. .usse kya ?

:klopp :kp
 

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Modi is enjoying the india success and doing betterment for india unlike Munira who is begging for a loan to pay the another loan.

Aaur kuch ? Rahi bat asi meeting ki wo to war se pehle se hoti aa rahi hai. .usse kya ?

:klopp :kp
 

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Haven't you seen the news which I have posted in other thread?


And more to comes, stay tuned. This is not our war so ye ek dusre se lade , khatam kar de usse hame kya. Hame sirf india ki success se matlab hai. Baki can go to the hell.

:klopp :kp
 
Same views about fatherland country too 🤔
When comes to betterment of India, I don't care about anyone's including Israel. Yes we have great relations with them but india is above everything. Btw Israel is enough for anyone. .so no need to worry about them. They have best technology in the world. ..best mind. .. there is reason why a tinny Israel is enough for entire Muslim Ummah. ..


:klopp :kp
 
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@Devadwal where is Modi 😭😭😭

Iran’s Araghchi receives Pakistani army chief in Tehran​

Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi has welcomed a Pakistani delegation led by army chief Asim Munir.

Iranian state TV reported earlier that the high-ranking Pakistani delegation would bring a new message from Washington and was due to discuss a second round of talks.

Araqchi (right) receives Pakistani Army Commander Asim Munir upon his arrival in Tehran

Iran’s Araghchi receives Pakistani army chief in Tehran

Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi has welcomed a Pakistani delegation led by army chief Asim Munir.
Iranian state TV reported earlier that the high-ranking Pakistani delegation would bring a new message from Washington and was due to discuss a second round of talks.
Araqchi (right) receives Pakistani Army Commander Asim Munir upon his arrival in Tehran


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This will strike a dagger in the hearts of all Indians.
 
When comes to betterment of India, I don't give a F about anyone's including Israel. Yes we have great relations with them but india is above everything. Btw Israel is enough for anyone. .so no need to worry about them. They have best technology in the world. ..best mind. .. there is reason why a tinny Israel is enough for entire Muslim Ummah. ..


:klopp :kp
Do you genuinely think jews who consider themselves as the highest form of humans would value friendship or give a toss about a civilisation who worship animals and drink cow urine.

The sooner Indians realise this, the better.
 
The Americans should have just whatsapped them their long proposal instead of getting the Pakistan Army chief to run errands for them. #waterboy

It’s diplomacy not Hindutva WhatsApp university, to which almost every Indian is enrolled.
 
In light of security risks, this is a risky but timely meeting by the field marshal, and one that'll strengthen Pakistan's weight. The next meeting for negotiations should result in a positive outcome.
 
Showing a lap dog is more aesthetic and classy.
Indians: Pakistan is America's slave/puppet/etc.

Also Indians:

Saar Pakistan was hiding OBL! Saar Pakistan was supported Taliban against US! Saar Pakistan play double games against US!

I suppose this cognitive dissonance is par for the course for andhbakhts - holding opposite views and then using whichever one is convenient.
 
Hopes grow for a breakthrough in US-Iran talks as Pakistan mediates

Pakistani officials are expecting a “major breakthrough” in talks between Iran and the United States on Tehran’s nuclear programme, sources have told Al Jazeera, as Islamabad steps up diplomatic efforts to end a war that has killed thousands of people.

The optimism on Wednesday came as a high-level Pakistani delegation, headed by Army Chief Asim Munir, arrived in Tehran to deliver a message from the US to the Iranian leadership, according to Iran’s Press TV broadcaster.

He was received by Iran’s Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi, who expressed gratitude for Pakistan’s “gracious hosting of dialogue”. According to Press TV, Munir is also seeking to lay the groundwork for a second round of talks between the US and Iran.

Al Jazeera’s Osama Bin Javaid, who has been covering the US-Iran talks, said Pakistani officials were expecting “a major breakthrough on the nuclear front” and that the delegates were continuing to relay messages back and forth between Washington and Tehran.

The central sticking point remains the duration of any enrichment freeze by Iran and the country’s stockpile of 440 kilogrammes of highly enriched uranium.

“We know that both sides are essentially stuck on between five years of no enrichment to 20 years of no enrichment. And there is a solution in the middle,” Bin Javaid said.

“There’s also talk about what Iran will do with the 440kg of nuclear-enriched material that it has in the country. There are multiple options – whether sending it abroad to a third party or bringing it down to either uranium in its natural form or up to 3 percent,” he said.

“According to these sources, there’s major headway that has been made, and they’re expecting that the Pakistanis are going to be able to convince Tehran,” he added.

Shuttle diplomacy

The shuttle diplomacy by Pakistan came after talks between the US and Iran in Islamabad ended over the weekend without an agreement to end the war. Mediators are pressing for a compromise on three main issues: Iran’s nuclear programme, control of the Strait of Hormuz – which Tehran has effectively closed, causing a surge in global oil prices – and compensation for wartime damages.

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The conflict, launched by the US and Israel on February 28, has killed more than 3,000 people in Iran and triggered retaliatory attacks by Tehran on Gulf countries. It has also reignited a conflict between Israel and Hezbollah in Lebanon, where Israeli forces have killed more than 2,000 people since March 2.

A ceasefire between Tehran and Washington on April 8 has halted attacks in Iran and the Gulf, but strikes by Israeli forces on Lebanon have continued.

Separately on Wednesday, Pakistan’s Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif also travelled to Saudi Arabia as part of a regional tour that also includes stops in Qatar and Turkiye. Al Jazeera’s Bin Javaid said Sharif’s tour was part of a “double-pronged strategy”.

“While the Iranians are speaking to the Pakistani military chief, the Pakistani prime minister and foreign minister are talking to the Saudis and the Qataris. The day after, they go to Turkiye,” he said, with the aim of neutralising any detractors to a deal

Bin Javaid said the detractors include elements in Tehran, in Washington, DC, and most of all, Israel, “which does not want a peace deal and wants a perpetual war in the region”.

‘Very close to over’

The diplomatic push appears bolstered by optimistic comments from US President Donald Trump, who said late on Tuesday that the world should brace for an “amazing two days” and the war on Iran is “very close to over”.

White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt later said that further negotiations would likely be held in Islamabad, calling Pakistan-mediated discussions “productive and ongoing”.

“We feel good about the prospects of a deal,” she said on Wednesday.

In Tehran, Iran’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs confirmed that exchanges with the US have continued since the end of the talks in Islamabad. Spokesman Esmaeil Baghaei said “several messages have been exchanged through Pakistan” and that Iranian “positions have been expressed in those exchanges”.

Tensions remain, however.

A US Navy blockade on Iranian ports – which began following the end of the talks – remains in effect in the Strait of Hormuz. The US Central Command claimed it has turned back nine vessels as of Wednesday.

Iran’s military has denounced the blockade as a violation of the April 8 ceasefire. Iran’s Fars News Agency separately reported that a sanctioned Iranian supertanker had crossed the Strait of Hormuz despite the blockade, though it gave no further details.

Ali Abdollahi, the commander of Iran’s joint military command, has also threatened to halt trade in the region if the US does not lift its blockade. He warned that Iran would retaliate by blocking trade through the Red Sea, along with the Gulf and the Sea of Oman.

 
I would say 90% of this is show and just cover for the Americans to launch a ground invasion. We all know Trump has nothing to show for the last 6 weeks and he needs something to salvage the situation for the Republicans who may take a decade to recover.

Don't go by what people say - go by what they do. Right now intelligence from various countries is clear - the US is preparing for a ground invasion, over 30k forces have moved into the region. It's nowhere near enough to do much - but maybe they need that many for some raid or 2.
 
source is from Pakistan 😂😂😂. .ye Munira ka tout hai. ..:klopp :kp

post reliable news not fake accounts
This is not reported anywhere except by the pakistan obsessed country india

Show me source from baharain or pakistan official news outlets
 
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When comes to betterment of India, I don't care about anyone's including Israel. Yes we have great relations with them but india is above everything. Btw Israel is enough for anyone. .so no need to worry about them. They have best technology in the world. ..best mind. .. there is reason why a tinny Israel is enough for entire Muslim Ummah. ..


:klopp :kp


If israel can take on the Muslim ummah, why would they need USA to do the heavy lifting for them every time? If they went alone they would be getting more support in the USA instead of losing it. Americans are growing angrier by the day that their economy is taking a battering for fighting israel's wars.
 
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I would say 90% of this is show and just cover for the Americans to launch a ground invasion. We all know Trump has nothing to show for the last 6 weeks and he needs something to salvage the situation for the Republicans who may take a decade to recover.

Don't go by what people say - go by what they do. Right now intelligence from various countries is clear - the US is preparing for a ground invasion, over 30k forces have moved into the region. It's nowhere near enough to do much - but maybe they need that many for some raid or 2.
A spectacle for the aggressor, but everyone in the region should be hoping it never escalates to boots on the ground. That wouldn’t just hit Iran, the economic and security fallout would ripple across the entire region, potentially reaching as far as China.

Meanwhile, some voices on this forum and in “godi” media will carry on as if untouched, downplaying their own stakes so long as Muslims are the ones bearing the cost.

At this point, any country, whether Nepal, Spain, or the UK, making an effort to deescalate deserves recognition, even if the odds of success are slim.

And if Narendra Modi could resolve a conflict like this with a tweet, no one would complain, but at this point, he seems far more committed to tweeting than actually influencing outcomes, so expectations remain low.
 
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