Israel’s fingerprints are all over India’s escalating conflict with Pakistan

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When I heard the first news report, I assumed it was an Israeli air raid on Gaza. Or Syria. Airstrikes on a “terrorist camp” were the first words. A “command and control centre” destroyed, many “terrorists” killed. The military was retaliating for a “terrorist attack” on its troops, we were told.

An Islamist “jihadi” base had been eliminated. Then I heard the name Balakot and realised that it was neither in Gaza, nor in Syria – not even in Lebanon – but in Pakistan. Strange thing, that. How could anyone mix up Israel and India?

Well, don’t let the idea fade away. Two thousand five hundred miles separate the Israeli ministry of defence in Tel Aviv from the Indian ministry of defence in New Delhi, but there’s a reason why the usual cliche-stricken agency dispatches sound so similar.

For months, Israel has been assiduously lining itself up alongside India’s nationalist BJP government in an unspoken – and politically dangerous – “anti-Islamist” coalition, an unofficial, unacknowledged alliance, while India itself has now become the largest weapons market for the Israeli arms trade.


Not by chance, therefore, has the Indian press just trumpeted the fact that Israeli-made Rafael Spice-2000 “smart bombs” were used by the Indian air force in its strike against Jaish-e-Mohammed (JeM) “terrorists” inside Pakistan.

Like many Israeli boasts of hitting similar targets, the Indian adventure into Pakistan might owe more to the imagination than military success. The “300-400 terrorists” supposedly eliminated by the Israeli-manufactured and Israeli-supplied GPS-guided bombs may turn out to be little more than rocks and trees.

But there was nothing unreal about the savage ambush of Indian troops in Kashmir on 14 February which the JeM claimed, and which left 40 Indian soldiers dead. Nor the shooting down of at least one Indian jet this week.

India was Israel’s largest arms client in 2017, paying £530m for Israeli air defence, radar systems and ammunition, including air-to-ground missiles – most of them tested during Israel’s military offensives against Palestinians and targets in Syria.

Israel itself is trying to explain away its continued sales of tanks, weapons and boats to the Myanmar military dictatorship – while western nations impose sanctions on the government which has attempted to destroy its minority and largely Muslim Rohingya people. But Israel’s arms trade with India is legal, above-board and much advertised by both sides.

The Israelis have filmed joint exercises between their own “special commando” units and those sent by India to be trained in the Negev desert, again with all the expertise supposedly learned by Israel in Gaza and other civilian-thronged battlefronts.

At least 16 Indian “Garud” commandos – part of a 45-strong Indian military delegation – were for a time based at the Nevatim and Palmachim air bases in Israel. In his first visit to India last year – preceded by a trip to Israel by nationalist Indian prime minister Narendra Modi, Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu recalled the 2008 Islamist attacks on Mumbai in which almost 170 civilians were killed. “Indians and Israelis know too well the pain of terrorist attacks,” he told Modi. “We remember the horrific savagery of Mumbai. We grit our teeth, we fight back, we never give in.” This was also BJP-speak.

Several Indian commentators, however, have warned that right-wing Zionism and right-wing nationalism under Modi should not become the foundation stone of the relationship between the two countries, both of which – in rather different ways – fought the British empire.

Brussels researcher Shairee Malhotra, whose work has appeared in the Israeli newspaper Haaretz, has pointed out that India has the world’s third largest Muslim population after Indonesia and Pakistan – upward of 180 million people. “The India-Israel relationship is also commonly being framed in terms of a natural convergence of ideas between their ruling BJP and Likud parties,” she wrote last year.

Hindu nationalists had constructed “a narrative of Hindus as historically victims at the hands of Muslims”, an attractive idea to those Hindus who recall partition and the continuing “turbulent relationship” with Pakistan.

In fact, as Malhotra pointed out in Haaretz, “Israel’s biggest fans in India appear to be the ‘internet Hindus’ who primarily love Israel for how it deals with Palestine and fights Muslims.”

Malhotra has condemned Carleton University professor Vivek Dehejia for demanding a “tripartite” alliance between India, Israel and the US – since they have all suffered “from the scourge of Islamic terrorism”.

In fact, by the end of 2016, only 23 men from India had left to fight for Isis in the Arab world, although Belgium, with a population of only half a million Muslims, produced nearly 500 fighters.

Malhotra’s argument is that the Indian-Israeli relationship should be pragmatic rather than ideological.

But it is difficult to see how Zionist nationalism will not leach into Hindu nationalism when Israel is supplying so many weapons to India – the latest of which India, which has enjoyed diplomatic relations with Israel since 1992, has already used against Islamists inside Pakistan.

Signing up to the “war on terror” – especially “Islamist terror” – may seem natural for two states built on colonial partition whose security is threatened by Muslim neighbours.

In both cases, their struggle is over the right to own or occupy territory. Israel, India and Pakistan all possess nuclear weapons. Another good reason not to let Palestine and Kashmir get tangled up together. And to leave India’s 180 million Muslims alone.

Source : https://www.independent.co.uk/voice...d-a8800076.html?amp&__twitter_impression=true
 
Israel is playing a dangerous game. Pakistan has not postured aggressively against them, yet they are actively assisting India. It would be in Israel's best interest to mind its own business.
 
Author says it is not wise to let Palestine and Kashmir tangled up together and leave India's 180 mil Muslims alone.

The question is who the Kashmiris identify with? Indian Muslims or Palestinians?
 
its high time pakistan makes a decision on Israel, build relations with them or break there noise like they have done to india, we cant keep ignoring the israel issue forever.
 
Some how Jews have to be involved in every thing that is bothersome to Muslims.
 
its high time pakistan makes a decision on Israel, build relations with them or break there noise like they have done to india, we cant keep ignoring the israel issue forever.

Pakistan has tried in the past but the fact is Israel doesn’t want relations with an extremist Muslim country. Specially one like Pakistan. The time was ripe post 9/11 but a lot has changed. The Arabs have agreed to recognize Israel and Israel doesn’t want any of it. They’re at a position of strength and building relations with Muslims will only soften their position.
 
Author says it is not wise to let Palestine and Kashmir tangled up together and leave India's 180 mil Muslims alone.

The question is who the Kashmiris identify with? Indian Muslims or Palestinians?

Of course they will identify with Palestinians in terms of looks. They even prefer Pakistani Muslims over Indian Muslims. Obviously they have nothing in common with a Muslim from Bengal or Tamilnadu except Religion.
 
Pakistan has tried in the past but the fact is Israel doesn’t want relations with an extremist Muslim country. Specially one like Pakistan. The time was ripe post 9/11 but a lot has changed. The Arabs have agreed to recognize Israel and Israel doesn’t want any of it. They’re at a position of strength and building relations with Muslims will only soften their position.

Are you being serious? All the world know how inhumane Israel is and how extreme they are. You sound ********.
 
Of course they will identify with Palestinians in terms of looks. They even prefer Pakistani Muslims over Indian Muslims. Obviously they have nothing in common with a Muslim from Bengal or Tamilnadu except Religion.

Why will then India consider Kashmiris as part of the 180 mil muslims in India?
 
Are you being serious? All the world know how inhumane Israel is and how extreme they are. You sound ********.

Lol. Easy there tiger. The world considers them a legitimate country and not the aggressors. They don’t want any relations with the Muslim world right now. What part of that was so hard for you to understand?
 
It would be a masterstroke if Pakistan builds a bridge to Israel right about now.
 
Lol. Easy there tiger. The world considers them a legitimate country and not the aggressors. They don’t want any relations with the Muslim world right now. What part of that was so hard for you to understand?

Israel can never call anyone an extremist considering their inhumane policy with the Palestinians. Whats so hard to comprehend?
 
well it looks like israel has realised Pakistan isnt a weak Syria or a occupied Palestine. We bite back. And for all the money spent on Israeli air defence equipment, we evaded it, in broad daylight..waste of good money of you ask me.
 
Israel can never call anyone an extremist considering their inhumane policy with the Palestinians. Whats so hard to comprehend?

It’s not what Israel can say or what the Muslims say. It’s about world perception..which you obviously seem to be very unaware of.
 
Why will then India consider Kashmiris as part of the 180 mil muslims in India?

Because we do not care about Color of a person. A man born in India is Indian. A punjabi and a tamil might not have much in common in terms of looks. But they are still Indian. Same goes for Kashmiris.

Kashmir has been part of Bharat even before South India came under the Hindu fold. Just because they have converted to Islam in the past 500 years does not make them alien to us. They are all Indians and deserve respect and rights as the rest of Indians. Nobody is special.
 
It would be a masterstroke if Pakistan builds a bridge to Israel right about now.

I am sure Imran wants to. He is smart and genuine leader. But he has to be vary of the religious outfits and the general muslim sentiment.
 
I very much doubt that Israel has the aircraft to fly 2500 mile sorties. A Strike Eagle has a combat radius of 800 miles.

So it was someone else.
 
Some how Jews have to be involved in every thing that is bothersome to Muslims.

The author is not Muslim.

Dont get close to these Israelis. You dont know them. They will strip you naked, parade you in front of the world and then sell you for a dime and you wont even notice it. For them India is a useful idiot. Be careful.
 
This Israel that just got condemned by UN Human Rights experts for committing war crimes in Palestine...?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-47399541

The US has been on the list so has Saudia and China. Yet they all sit on the UN Security Council. The UN is a spineless organization. I agree with you all that Israel has done atrocious stuff to the Palestinians but regardless of what you and I believe the Israelis have far more diplomatic pull than any other country..and they have the support.

Pakistanis don’t understand the backlash Israeli government will face if they build relations with a country like Pakistan which unfortunately has a very wrong perception.

Pakistanis need to stop being emotional and think with logic. Fix our perception first and then build bridges.
 
The author is not Muslim.

Dont get close to these Israelis. You dont know them. They will strip you naked, parade you in front of the world and then sell you for a dime and you wont even notice it. For them India is a useful idiot. Be careful.

India needs Israeli weapons and their support for diplomacy. Israel needs cash. The jingoism is for public consumption. It's business.
 
India needs Israeli weapons and their support for diplomacy. Israel needs cash. The jingoism is for public consumption. It's business.

Israel is training Indian commandos, i am sure Israel has started to influence India's defence policy as well. Its just a start. It almost always snowballs into other areas.
 
I am sure Imran wants to. He is smart and genuine leader. But he has to be vary of the religious outfits and the general muslim sentiment.

India is already wary that Israel has cordial/warm relations with China. If we ever went to war, which way will Israel turn, or will they remain neutral?

Imagine if it's the same thing with Pakistan. That's why I call it a masterstroke if Imran somehow achieves a thaw.
 
The author is not Muslim.

Dont get close to these Israelis. You dont know them. They will strip you naked, parade you in front of the world and then sell you for a dime and you wont even notice it. For them India is a useful idiot. Be careful.

They both suit each other tbh. Both are obsessed with materialistic pursuits and are willing to go to any length to fulfill self interest, masters of deception and deceit. I can only see their alliance getting stronger in this postmodern world.
 
They both suit each other tbh. Both are obsessed with materialistic pursuits and are willing to go to any length to fulfill self interest, masters of deception and deceit. I can only see their alliance getting stronger in this postmodern world.

India is not master of deception but they use their superiority in numbers well against defenceless people.
 
Israel is training Indian commandos, i am sure Israel has started to influence India's defence policy as well. Its just a start. It almost always snowballs into other areas.

Are they training for free? India's rhetoric that Kashmir is another Palestine gets legitimacy and support if they get military support from Israel.
 
The US has been on the list so has Saudia and China. Yet they all sit on the UN Security Council. The UN is a spineless organization. I agree with you all that Israel has done atrocious stuff to the Palestinians but regardless of what you and I believe the Israelis have far more diplomatic pull than any other country..and they have the support.

Pakistanis don’t understand the backlash Israeli government will face if they build relations with a country like Pakistan which unfortunately has a very wrong perception.

Pakistanis need to stop being emotional and think with logic. Fix our perception first and then build bridges.

With what Israel have done over the years it's not a country that I would want my country to be doing business with or building relations with. I don't know about Pakistan or India but I would imagine the people of both countries wouldn't feel proud of being connected to a country with a regime that kills innocents including children, medics and journalists.
 
If Israel was responsible for this which I doubt they are, Pak can do nothing other than suffering in silence..

No one can do anything to Israel. Not even China forget about Pakistan.
 
Some how Jews have to be involved in every thing that is bothersome to Muslims.

Playing victim card and blaming everything on Jews for your suffering is getting really tedious.
 
Are they training for free? India's rhetoric that Kashmir is another Palestine gets legitimacy and support if they get military support from Israel.

You wont retain independent defence policy. You will become pawns.
 
Have you bothered reading the article?its not written by a muslim.

I was referring to the post; not the article.

I have been here long enough to know the mindset of people. Jews did this; Jews did that.

Anytime anything happens, it’s automatically Zionist conspiracy..
 
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Hindu nationalists had constructed “a narrative of Hindus as historically victims at the hands of Muslims”, an attractive idea to those Hindus who recall partition and the continuing “turbulent relationship” with Pakistan.

In fact, as Malhotra pointed out in Haaretz, “Israel’s biggest fans in India appear to be the ‘internet Hindus’ who primarily love Israel for how it deals with Palestine and fights Muslims.”

A BJP govt based on Hindu nationalism is always going to be a sticking point when it comes to peaceful relations in the subcontinent. Israel should stick to it's issues in the middle east and India needs to look to it's own neighbourhood. Fighting wars at home because it makes Israelis happy isn't going to help India flourish, although the arms sales will certainly boost Israeli coffers.
 
Playing victim card and blaming everything on Jews for your suffering is getting really tedious.

It's Israel, no need to bring in their religion unless you would like people to refer to Indians as Hindus all the time.

Back to the OP.

The BJP sold it's soul to the Zionist devil a long time ago when the war criminal Sharon visited India.

Israeli is using India agains Pakistan for it's own beneifts. This also helps them make a lot of money from a 3rd world nation by selling arms. In return India has been welcomed into the Zionist camp, which is why western media is helping their narrative.

Zionists are very racist, they dont see brown Hindu's as anything special which Indians need to understand.
 
Because we do not care about Color of a person. A man born in India is Indian. A punjabi and a tamil might not have much in common in terms of looks. But they are still Indian. Same goes for Kashmiris.

Kashmir has been part of Bharat even before South India came under the Hindu fold. Just because they have converted to Islam in the past 500 years does not make them alien to us. They are all Indians and deserve respect and rights as the rest of Indians. Nobody is special.
Sorry, but your current government and its goons does not think that way. The blatant discrimination against the Muslims is proof of that.
 
You wont retain independent defence policy. You will become pawns.

India is too big a country to be anyone's pawn. Indo Israeli relation is mutually beneficial for both countries.
 
India is too big a country to be anyone's pawn. Indo Israeli relation is mutually beneficial for both countries.

They have US Presidents swear before AIPAC that they'll protect Israel, India is small fry comparatively
 
They have US Presidents swear before AIPAC that they'll protect Israel, India is small fry comparatively

Yes, Because of the Jewish lobby. But India has another religion that's equally cunning.
 
You blame Indian media and then you sprout such stuff no wonder you also showed you have a bias.
 
I didnt write that article. Neither did any muslim. And its from a reputable source as well and it has mentioned facts in it , not assumptions.

True, but there are various articles on BBC or world media which would argue on various aspects that you don't believe, are you saying will you accept them as openly as you have accepted this?
 
True, but there are various articles on BBC or world media which would argue on various aspects that you don't believe, are you saying will you accept them as openly as you have accepted this?

Bro your thought process is really convoluted during discussions. Try to have some clarity of thoughts. Sometimes you bring in religion out of nowhere to prove an irrelevant point and now you are talking about some other articles. I look at each article seperately on a case to case basis. Just like policy of NAM countries :yk no permanent allegience to any particular media channel or author.
 
Bro your thought process is really convoluted during discussions. Try to have some clarity of thoughts. Sometimes you bring in religion out of nowhere to prove an irrelevant point and now you are talking about some other articles. I look at each article seperately on a case to case basis. Just like policy of NAM countries :yk no permanent allegience to any particular media channel or author.

The reason I bring religion is coz the idea of being "brainwashed" ,concept similar to nationalism instilled in childhood.

This is similar but I get it, sounds like whatabout-ism.
 
The Hindus are nowhere near as cunning, nor are the Muslims or Christians or Sikhs. Parsis and Jain I dunno

There is no country as cunning as India. They can be easily in bed with Iran, Saudi, Israel, US, Venezuela, China, Russsia at the same time. No other country can claim that. Indians have claimed Kashmir is similar to Palestine when proving that they are victims of terrorism while supporting Palestine at the UN
 
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As far as Hindus go, Look at Modi and his mosque visits to UAE. Didn't see him chummy up with muslims in India. The dude even refused to wear a hat that muslims wear in India
 
As far as Hindus go, Look at Modi and his mosque visits to UAE. Didn't see him chummy up with muslims in India. The dude even refused to wear a hat that muslims wear in India

So this is the proof of cunningness of hindus?
 
The reason I bring religion is coz the idea of being "brainwashed" ,concept similar to nationalism instilled in childhood.

This is similar but I get it, sounds like whatabout-ism.

Okay sir. What are your opinions about Israel influencing India?
 
With what Israel have done over the years it's not a country that I would want my country to be doing business with or building relations with. I don't know about Pakistan or India but I would imagine the people of both countries wouldn't feel proud of being connected to a country with a regime that kills innocents including children, medics and journalists.

Good on you. Pakistani posters in this posters are asking for relations with Israel so my response was based on that.
 
I was referring to the post; not the article.

I have been here long enough to know the mindset of people. Jews did this; Jews did that.

Anytime anything happens, it’s automatically Zionist conspiracy..

the poster is indian hindu living in States :facepalm:

why are indians so rattled and irritated over the past few days?
 
So this is the proof of cunningness of hindus?

If cunningness means opportunistic, then yes. If cunningness means setting your ideologies aside depending on your own agenda, then yes.
 
Okay sir. What are your opinions about Israel influencing India?

Overrated... similar to US-Russia issues, the amount of investments that US has in Russia would never let them go on a war with each other.

India does have good tech relations, and in 21st century why not Israel is a leader in that field but defense wise nope.
 
There is no country as cunning as India. They can be easily in bed with Iran, Saudi, Israel, US, Venezuela, China, Russsia at the same time. No other country can claim that. Indians have claimed Kashmir is similar to Palestine when proving that they are victims of terrorism while supporting Palestine at the UN

Agree with you here. The old phrase bagul mein churi, mun pe ram ram is a testament to this. Indians are usually very good at presenting a deceptive front, that is why it must be frustrating for seasoned Indian analysts to see Imran Khan out-manoeuvre their PM so easily.
 
Agree with you here. The old phrase bagul mein churi, mun pe ram ram is a testament to this. Indians are usually very good at presenting a deceptive front, that is why it must be frustrating for seasoned Indian analysts to see Imran Khan out-manoeuvre their PM so easily.

Whatever you say Cap,but all those times when we had our diplomatic/war victories we had either Congress or BJP with a seasoned leader like Vajpayee.

You just got your smartest leader and we our most arrogant enjoy winds of change coming soon.
 
Agree with you here. The old phrase bagul mein churi, mun pe ram ram is a testament to this. Indians are usually very good at presenting a deceptive front, that is why it must be frustrating for seasoned Indian analysts to see Imran Khan out-manoeuvre their PM so easily.

Yes. You capture a POW and then you make a speech for peace. Modi was DOWN right there. The opposition picked up on it too. But now the lifeline was given to Modi and he will change the rhetoric
 
the poster is indian hindu living in States :facepalm:

why are indians so rattled and irritated over the past few days?

Blaming Jews for all your misery is a common practice here.. Read the classic by [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION]

"Selling the soul to Zionist devil" etc. Beauties like this are scattered everywhere.
 
Blaming Jews for all your misery is a common practice here.. Read the classic by [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION]

"Selling the soul to Zionist devil" etc. Beauties like this are scattered everywhere.

In political terms India certianly has.

Again you are using the term 'Jews'. Do you want everyone to call Indians Hindus?
 
Blaming Jews for all your misery is a common practice here.. Read the classic by [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION]

"Selling the soul to Zionist devil" etc. Beauties like this are scattered everywhere.

All Jews aren't Zionists, in fact some of the more religous ones are fervently opposed to Zionism in the same way many Germans were no doubt opposed to Nazism.
 
Blaming Jews for all your misery is a common practice here.. Read the classic by [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION]

"Selling the soul to Zionist devil" etc. Beauties like this are scattered everywhere.

You seem very ignorant on all this. No one is blaming the Jewish people or religion for any of this. Muslims and Jews have a long history of peaceful cooperation and the former have protected the latter for far longer than the Christians have. Hindus are not even in the picture. This is not about religion though.

This is about the state of Israel and as the author of the article writes, they are definitely part of the problem in the current Indo-Pak standoff.
 
All Jews aren't Zionists, in fact some of the more religous ones are fervently opposed to Zionism in the same way many Germans were no doubt opposed to Nazism.

Not to mention that many Zionists are non-Jews and have nothing to do with Judaism.
 
Nonsense. We Pakistani's have to involve Israel in every damn situation. If people took off their tinted they will realize that Israel has a much more closer relationship with Saudi Arabia and the rest of the Gulf states than even India. The Gulf states have no better ally in their fight for dominance against Iran than Israel. That's just the facts.
 
Nonsense. We Pakistani's have to involve Israel in every damn situation. If people took off their tinted they will realize that Israel has a much more closer relationship with Saudi Arabia and the rest of the Gulf states than even India. The Gulf states have no better ally in their fight for dominance against Iran than Israel. That's just the facts.

They are dictatorships. the arab civilian people hate Israel.
 
They are dictatorships. the arab civilian people hate Israel.

I don't blame you for believing that but your assumption is incorrect. The Gulf states civilian population are fully aware of the benefits and prosperity due their relationship with Israel and US in fact they see Iran as the real enemy and accept Israel's existence especially the more educated youngster generation.

Also this might be hard for some to swallow but Arabs have more in common with Israelis than Pakistan's, Turks, Afghans etc.
 
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I don't blame you for believing that but your assumption is incorrect. The Gulf states civilian population are fully aware of the benefits and prosperity due their relationship with Israel and US in fact they see Iran as the real enemy and accept Israel's existence especially the more educated youngster generation.

Also this might be hard for some to swallow but Arabs have more in common with Israelis than Pakistan's, Turks, Afghans etc.

You will not find any accurate polls in the Arab world but I've been to most of those nations and every single Arab person I have spoken to doesn't like Israel.

Saudi would be rich if Israel existed or not, any benefits are minimal and not relevant.

Most Israelis are European Jews, what do they have in common?
 
You will not find any accurate polls in the Arab world but I've been to most of those nations and every single Arab person I have spoken to doesn't like Israel.

Saudi would be rich if Israel existed or not, any benefits are minimal and not relevant.

Most Israelis are European Jews, what do they have in common?

Saudis have American patronage because of Israel.
 
Saudis were installed by the British and Americans became very close to them in 1931, long before Israel even existed.

Because of resources, oil then. Americans import less than 10 percent of oil from Saudis now. Canada supplies 40 percent and the rest if the countries can easily make up for Aramco. Saudi support is critical to Israel's existence and vice versa.
 
You will not find any accurate polls in the Arab world but I've been to most of those nations and every single Arab person I have spoken to doesn't like Israel.

Saudi would be rich if Israel existed or not, any benefits are minimal and not relevant.

Most Israelis are European Jews, what do they have in common?

My uncle who is a structured engineer has spent over 30 years in different Gulf states and while there are some Israel detractors most Arabs don't even blink an eye towards Israel. While your point about European jews is correct there is also a significant population of Mizrahi Jews who migrated to Israel mostly from the rest of the Middle East.
 
My uncle who is a structured engineer has spent over 30 years in different Gulf states and while there are some Israel detractors most Arabs don't even blink an eye towards Israel. While your point about European jews is correct there is also a significant population of Mizrahi Jews who migrated to Israel mostly from the rest of the Middle East.

Your uncle has his own experiences and I respect that. Mine are different.

Majority are European Jews or Russian Jews. This is going off topic, so I'll leave it here.

Back to the OP, Netanyahu goes another extremist will take charge, means nothing in the real world.
 
Ironically, many believe that Narendra Modi is the '21st Century Hitler' in the making.
 
If cunningness means opportunistic, then yes. If cunningness means setting your ideologies aside depending on your own agenda, then yes.

So does a hindu cease to be a hindu when he sets his ideology aside to push his agenda?
 
Overrated... similar to US-Russia issues, the amount of investments that US has in Russia would never let them go on a war with each other.

India does have good tech relations, and in 21st century why not Israel is a leader in that field but defense wise nope.

I think the stuff i see on ground here and how the tactics of Indian military and JK police have changed drastically, it has Israel written all over it.
 
Bottom line is that Muslims all over the world are being targeted and killed.
1. Genocide in Myanmar
2. Iraq and Afghan war
3. Palastine and Kashmir
4. Syria, Libya & Yemen
5. RSS killing Muslims for practising their religion in India

The above are just to name a few. The following are the common factors:

1. They majority of the victims identify themselves as Muslims.
2. The aggressors are always in a position of strength (military might) and justify the use of force even if a gust of wind from the opposing side hits them in the face.

3. The Aggressors are also the self-proclaimed champions of democracy but are happy to jump in bed with Muslim Rulers of countries who are willing to toe the line. i.e. Saudia Arabia, UAE etc.

4. Those Muslim countries which are able to resist them have to face pressure through UN sanctions to force them to toe the line - be it Iran or Pakistan.

Bottom line is - there is a nexus of evil, it is not a conspiracy theory, it is a fact. The crusades never ended, they just evolved. Anyone who thinks or says otherwise is living with their head in the sand.
 
I think the stuff i see on ground here and how the tactics of Indian military and JK police have changed drastically, it has Israel written all over it.

Yes but so has the way protests have gone since 2010..the stone pelting etc, change is on both sides we both can argue which change happened first.
 
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