What's new

Israel India love affair - Is it mutual or just one-sided?

Do people in Israel like Indians too?


  • Total voters
    24
It is extremely one-sided.

BJP Indians act like shameless bootlickers of Israel. Zero self-respect.

They should check what Judaism/Torah says about idol worship. LOL.

Muslim Bangladeshis and Pakistanis becoming spokesman on Israeli jews.


Why don't you guys mind your own business while Indians and Israelis mind their own.

Utter lack of self respect must be the only thing reason that makes these people give opinion on Israel and India.
 
The European colonial zionest state will have no mercy on people of colour regardless of Hindutwa dreaming of lapping up to them.


Indians are going to go and settle in Israel.

May be for you any strategic and military partnership means migrating tp to that place and settling there.
 
Indians Don't have issues with Israel, Israelis don't have issues with India,

But Bangladeshis and Pakistanis have issues. Your own country has so many issues, give them advise.
 
Well both India and Israel got independence around the same time.

Both Pakistan and Palestine got the independence around the same time also ?

Quite a bit of similarities here both India and Israel starts with I and both Palestine and Pakistan starts with a P.

2 I's are prospering nations, one already has gone beyond a developed nation while the other 'India' is still developing, both the I's work with each other to better themselves. However both P's are in ungettoutable hopeless situations forever doomed...
 

Indian killed while entering Israel was victim of job scam, family say​


The family of an Indian man who was shot dead while illegally crossing into Israel say he was a victim of a job scam.

Thomas Gabriel Perera was killed by Jordanian security forces by the border with Israel on 10 February.

He was lured to Jordan by the promise of a lucrative job, and when it did not materialise he tried to enter Israel as he was told he could find work there, his family told the BBC.

Reports of Indians falling for employment scams and illegally entering other countries to look for work have become increasingly common.

Perera, 47, had been accompanied by his brother-in-law Edison Charlas, who was injured in the shootout. Mr Charlas was treated in hospital and spent a fortnight in prison before he was repatriated to India.

The two men were from the southern Indian state of Kerala where they worked as auto-rickshaw drivers.

An agent had promised them they could get blue-collar jobs in Jordan earning 350,000 rupees ($4,000; £3,110) a month.

Mr Charlas told the BBC he paid 210,000 rupees to an agent before they left India, and paid an additional $600 after reaching Jordan on a tourist visa.

But when the two men arrived in Jordan's capital city Amman in early February, they were told by the agent that there were no jobs available.

The agent then suggested they should try illegally crossing into Israel, claiming there were plenty of opportunities there.

On 10 February, Mr Charlas and Perera joined a group that drove for hours to Jordan's border with Israel.

"We were taken in a car. It was a long distance. We got into the car at 2pm and reached the location only around midnight. Then we were made to walk several kilometres along a coastline. It was while walking in the dark that we were shot,'' said Mr Charlas.

The BBC has seen a letter sent to Perera's family by the Indian embassy in Jordan. It states that "security forces tried to stop them but they did not listen to the warning, the guards opened fire on them".

"One bullet hit Mr Thomas [Perera] in his head and he passed away on the spot.''

Mr Charlas, however, disputed this account and said there was "no such warning (from the guards). They just shot.''

"I was walking slowly behind the others in the dark... That was when the bullet hit me and I lost consciousness. I had no clue what happened to Thomas,'' he said.

The BBC has asked India's foreign ministry and Jordanian authorities for comment on Mr Charlas' allegation.

Mr Charlas said he was later taken to a hospital for treatment and then moved between several Jordanian government offices before being transferred to prison, where he was kept for 18 days.

While in prison, he managed to contact his wife and told her what had happened, and his wife contacted Indian embassy officials.

Mr Charlas was deported to India on 28 February.

Perera's body is still in Jordan. In response to BBC queries, India's foreign ministry said they were working to bring the body back to India as soon as possible.

"I am told that it will take one or two days for the process of documentation and other things to be completed," said Randhir Jaiswal, spokesperson for the foreign ministry.

On Monday, Shashi Tharoor, the member of parliament representing Perera's constituency Thiruvananthapuram, said that members of the Indian embassy in Jordan had verified the victim's identity and that the process of transportation of the body had begun.

Despite numerous government warnings, many Indians are still falling prey to job scams and taking the risk of entering countries illegally to find work, say observers.

"The modus operandi is to get a tourist visa for one country and then enter the neighbouring country," said Ajith Kolassery, the CEO of Norka, the Kerala government's department overseeing migration.

"No country will accept illegal entry. We have been consistently issuing advisories to people to be wary of job rackets, but they are still going."

In recent years hundreds of Indians have been rescued from scam centres in Cambodia and other parts of South East Asia. They were trafficked to the centres after they were lured overseas by promises of good jobs.

Scores of Indian nationals were also tricked into fighting for Russia in the war with Ukraine after they were offered fake jobs and opportunities to study abroad.

The 100 Indians who were deported from the US last month after being accused of entering the country illegally had also been lured by the hope of a better life, pointed out Irudaya Rajan, who chairs the International Institute of Migration and Development in Thiruvananthapuram.

"They also paid money to agents and were cheated. It's the struggle to get better wages [that is driving this]," he said.

 

Indian killed while entering Israel was victim of job scam, family say​


The family of an Indian man who was shot dead while illegally crossing into Israel say he was a victim of a job scam.

Thomas Gabriel Perera was killed by Jordanian security forces by the border with Israel on 10 February.

He was lured to Jordan by the promise of a lucrative job, and when it did not materialise he tried to enter Israel as he was told he could find work there, his family told the BBC.

Reports of Indians falling for employment scams and illegally entering other countries to look for work have become increasingly common.

Perera, 47, had been accompanied by his brother-in-law Edison Charlas, who was injured in the shootout. Mr Charlas was treated in hospital and spent a fortnight in prison before he was repatriated to India.

The two men were from the southern Indian state of Kerala where they worked as auto-rickshaw drivers.

An agent had promised them they could get blue-collar jobs in Jordan earning 350,000 rupees ($4,000; £3,110) a month.

Mr Charlas told the BBC he paid 210,000 rupees to an agent before they left India, and paid an additional $600 after reaching Jordan on a tourist visa.

But when the two men arrived in Jordan's capital city Amman in early February, they were told by the agent that there were no jobs available.

The agent then suggested they should try illegally crossing into Israel, claiming there were plenty of opportunities there.

On 10 February, Mr Charlas and Perera joined a group that drove for hours to Jordan's border with Israel.

"We were taken in a car. It was a long distance. We got into the car at 2pm and reached the location only around midnight. Then we were made to walk several kilometres along a coastline. It was while walking in the dark that we were shot,'' said Mr Charlas.

The BBC has seen a letter sent to Perera's family by the Indian embassy in Jordan. It states that "security forces tried to stop them but they did not listen to the warning, the guards opened fire on them".

"One bullet hit Mr Thomas [Perera] in his head and he passed away on the spot.''

Mr Charlas, however, disputed this account and said there was "no such warning (from the guards). They just shot.''

"I was walking slowly behind the others in the dark... That was when the bullet hit me and I lost consciousness. I had no clue what happened to Thomas,'' he said.

The BBC has asked India's foreign ministry and Jordanian authorities for comment on Mr Charlas' allegation.

Mr Charlas said he was later taken to a hospital for treatment and then moved between several Jordanian government offices before being transferred to prison, where he was kept for 18 days.

While in prison, he managed to contact his wife and told her what had happened, and his wife contacted Indian embassy officials.

Mr Charlas was deported to India on 28 February.

Perera's body is still in Jordan. In response to BBC queries, India's foreign ministry said they were working to bring the body back to India as soon as possible.

"I am told that it will take one or two days for the process of documentation and other things to be completed," said Randhir Jaiswal, spokesperson for the foreign ministry.

On Monday, Shashi Tharoor, the member of parliament representing Perera's constituency Thiruvananthapuram, said that members of the Indian embassy in Jordan had verified the victim's identity and that the process of transportation of the body had begun.

Despite numerous government warnings, many Indians are still falling prey to job scams and taking the risk of entering countries illegally to find work, say observers.

"The modus operandi is to get a tourist visa for one country and then enter the neighbouring country," said Ajith Kolassery, the CEO of Norka, the Kerala government's department overseeing migration.

"No country will accept illegal entry. We have been consistently issuing advisories to people to be wary of job rackets, but they are still going."

In recent years hundreds of Indians have been rescued from scam centres in Cambodia and other parts of South East Asia. They were trafficked to the centres after they were lured overseas by promises of good jobs.

Scores of Indian nationals were also tricked into fighting for Russia in the war with Ukraine after they were offered fake jobs and opportunities to study abroad.

The 100 Indians who were deported from the US last month after being accused of entering the country illegally had also been lured by the hope of a better life, pointed out Irudaya Rajan, who chairs the International Institute of Migration and Development in Thiruvananthapuram.

"They also paid money to agents and were cheated. It's the struggle to get better wages [that is driving this]," he said.


Why do these Indians try to migrate illegally in so many countries? Why don't they stay in NUMBER ONE INDIA? :inti
 
I watched a video recently where an Indian guy goes to Israel and he’s accompanied by some white female, who may have been Israeli. They go out one evening and he tries to get into various clubs and bars, only to find he was rejected from every venue.

I will post the video when I get a chance.

This is why I can only laugh when I see Islamaphobic Indians go out of their way to support Israel.
 
I watched a video recently where an Indian guy goes to Israel and he’s accompanied by some white female, who may have been Israeli. They go out one evening and he tries to get into various clubs and bars, only to find he was rejected from every venue.

I will post the video when I get a chance.

This is why I can only laugh when I see Islamaphobic Indians go out of their way to support Israel.

Please post the video. :qdkcheeky

I also heard about it but didn't check the video.
 
I watched a video recently where an Indian guy goes to Israel and he’s accompanied by some white female, who may have been Israeli. They go out one evening and he tries to get into various clubs and bars, only to find he was rejected from every venue.

I will post the video when I get a chance.

This is why I can only laugh when I see Islamaphobic Indians go out of their way to support Israel.
There are dizens of videos where bearded muslims and hijabed women are refused entry or looked down upon and made fun of lol and asked to leave. Can post those if it's ok for all. The Saudis Iranians and other middle eastern muslims including Palestinian muslims treat SC muslims like nothing and horribly - so much for Islamic ummah.

So coming back to the topic - relationship between ind and Israel is a strategic relationship with mutual cooperation and collaboration. Israel helped ind in wars when it was attacked by its Muslim neighbors and have military and technology goods trade. The triad axis of USA Israel India will be the defining partnership this century no matter how much you guys crib and fuss about here.
 
There are dizens of videos where bearded muslims and hijabed women are refused entry or looked down upon and made fun of lol and asked to leave. Can post those if it's ok for all. The Saudis Iranians and other middle eastern muslims including Palestinian muslims treat SC muslims like nothing and horribly - so much for Islamic ummah.

So coming back to the topic - relationship between ind and Israel is a strategic relationship with mutual cooperation and collaboration. Israel helped ind in wars when it was attacked by its Muslim neighbors and have military and technology goods trade. The triad axis of USA Israel India will be the defining partnership this century no matter how much you guys crib and fuss about here.

Looks like I hit a nerve
 
Looks like I hit a nerve
Nobody hit a raw nerve lol. Its called transference. There is no ummah between ind and Israel- it's a mutually beneficial relationship. Partners against radical Islamic terrorism - both have hostile Islamic neighbors with perennial IMF bowls at others mercy alqays. So commoon shared interests.

Both have radical neighbors that are all about Islam religion religion with no concept of modernism. So naturally mutually aligned interests.
 
Indians are going to go and settle in Israel.

May be for you any strategic and military partnership means migrating tp to that place and settling there.
That would be beautiful. We have first handed experienced the bounties of indian immigration in Canada and USA here. Cannot wait for Israel to enjoy the "model immigrants" as well. HAHAHAHA. Oh that would be lovely!
 
As I had this in mind....one sided submission
This is a brutal watch, and i have seen this video before too and not surprised at all. These israelis are just blatantly doing what is now happening sneakily in Toronto from my experience. Indians usually dont get admission in many of the clubs and are booted out by bouncers on different excuses in the line. Those are usually the ones who look very indian in their behavior/appearance btw. The bouncers ofc use different excuses like "Are you on the guest list (when there was never any), your attire is not following dress code etc. and for good reason. Have witnessed this multiple time in front of my eyes.
 
Nobody hit a raw nerve lol. Its called transference. There is no ummah between ind and Israel- it's a mutually beneficial relationship. Partners against radical Islamic terrorism - both have hostile Islamic neighbors with perennial IMF bowls at others mercy alqays. So commoon shared interests.

Both have radical neighbors that are all about Islam religion religion with no concept of modernism. So naturally mutually aligned interests.

Any other Indians rattled like this guy?
 
Looks like I hit a nerve

This happens in most Western countries..Nothing strange about this, why is it supposed to be unique? Ppl from the sub continent experience this everywhere they go. I have seen a video of an Arab in UAE doing something absolutely despicable to a Pakistani with a camel, it will make you puke how this Arab doesn't even consider the person on the receiving end as a human..

Indians themselves are one of the most racists lot in the world, see how they treat African students in India...

What goes around comes around.

Nothing out of the ordinary in your video...
 
There are dizens of videos where bearded muslims and hijabed women are refused entry or looked down upon and made fun of lol and asked to leave. Can post those if it's ok for all. The Saudis Iranians and other middle eastern muslims including Palestinian muslims treat SC muslims like nothing and horribly - so much for Islamic ummah.

So coming back to the topic - relationship between ind and Israel is a strategic relationship with mutual cooperation and collaboration. Israel helped ind in wars when it was attacked by its Muslim neighbors and have military and technology goods trade. The triad axis of USA Israel India will be the defining partnership this century no matter how much you guys crib and fuss about here.

Ah, so "mutual cooperation and collaboration" is what they are now calling good old bootlicking?
 
Any other Indians rattled like this guy?
Rattled lol ! Who is rattled everyone knows. Isreal is a small tiny country with minuscule population surrounded by Islamic countries with big countries. So who has rattled who??

Ind is surrounded by hostile Islamic countries pak and ban and who is rattling whom?😀
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Well both India and Israel got independence around the same time.

Both Pakistan and Palestine got the independence around the same time also ?

Quite a bit of similarities here both India and Israel starts with I and both Palestine and Pakistan starts with a P.

2 I's are prospering nations, one already has gone beyond a developed nation while the other 'India' is still developing, both the I's work with each other to better themselves. However both P's are in ungettoutable hopeless situations forever doomed...
Your posts used to be overly simplistic with little to no nuance before, now have taken it to the next level. Calling India prospering, and mocking people living under occupation, under apartheid, with no sovereignty over their land.
 
Thread is not about Pakistan or Kashmir. So keep your posts relevant to INDIA ISRAEL only
 
Despite being subjected to racism, the hindutvas chooses to ignore it because the perpetrator’s actions are directed at those they themselves resent.”
Rattled lol ! Who is rattled everyone knows. Isreal is a small tiny country with minuscule population surrounded by Islamic countries with big countries. So who has rattled who??

Ind is surrounded by hostile Islamic countries pak and ban and who is rattling whom?😀

Oh look, the guilty party is out here auditioning for the role of ‘Innocent Victim’ while dodging racism condemnations like it’s a game of dodgeball, powered by generational hate and a PhD in Whataboutism. LOL
 
An Israeli woman and her Indian host gangraped in India. Their 3 male friends pushed into the river, one dead, one missing, one alive.

But sarr we are allies.
 
Rattled lol ! Who is rattled everyone knows. Isreal is a small tiny country with minuscule population surrounded by Islamic countries with big countries. So who has rattled who??

Ind is surrounded by hostile Islamic countries pak and ban and who is rattling whom?😀

Israel is in reality a US colony established in the middle east for logistical purposes as much as religious. Without US backing it is questionable how long they would survive. Without a state, Jewish people were living in the middle east for the past few centuries without much issue.

As for the question whether the love story between Indians and Israelis is one sided, seems to me that Indians flock to the Arab Muslim countries in far greater numbers than they do to israel, so doesn't seem like israel offers much opportunity to work or live in israel. Not sure why Indians feel the need to cheerlead for israel over arabs.
 
Brotherhood between both nations is real. Pakistanis throwing isolated instances doesn't change the strong people to people connection Bharat-Israel have. The military cooperation against radical Islam was only a matter of time.
 
Brotherhood between both nations is real. Pakistanis throwing isolated instances doesn't change the strong people to people connection Bharat-Israel have. The military cooperation against radical Islam was only a matter of time.

If Mossad is involved, it would be best for Pakistan to just stop everything now with immediate affect....
 
Now it's starting to make sense, Donald Trump is hardly making a whisper on this conflict, no American president in history has been this quiet during an Indo/Pak conflict. The current stance taken by potus is most likely because Israel is now involved with Mossad in India working with the Indian NSA.
 
With the recent indopak war just realised how much pain and trauma the Palestine people would feel when Israel attacks them , though Pakistan matched fire with fire to India yet people of Pakistan now despise India and Indians.
 
It is extremely one-sided.

BJP Indians act like shameless bootlickers of Israel. Zero self-respect.

They should check what Judaism/Torah says about idol worship. LOL.
Exactly. Indira Gandhi didn’t recognised Israhell. In fact she suported Palestine plight before. Until the butcher of Gujarat came into power of India in 2014 and hindutva dominance took over and now India has changed its stance hence supports Israel like its their long lost brother.
 
Brotherhood between both nations is real. Pakistanis throwing isolated instances doesn't change the strong people to people connection Bharat-Israel have. The military cooperation against radical Islam was only a matter of time.

Is there any Hindu temples in Israel? Brotherhood seems to be one sided longing from hindutva posters, not reflected by any genuine love or respect from their Israeli brethren.
 
Isreal after October 7th hired 50,000 Indians for construction and other similar jobs, Which were previously Done by Gazans.

True friendship between them.
 
Now it's starting to make sense, Donald Trump is hardly making a whisper on this conflict, no American president in history has been this quiet during an Indo/Pak conflict. The current stance taken by potus is most likely because Israel is now involved with Mossad in India working with the Indian NSA.

Nothing short of Game of Thrones this.

Powers playing in the shadows

I think Bharat has surprised quite a lot of nations by its ultra aggressive stance.

This is unheard of. Going to war with a nuclear power to avenge death of 26 civilians. PM Modi has made it clear he’s got the heart to go to war and raise the stakes if needed.
 
i heard a rabbi once say, and i paraphrase because i dont remember exactly, "that the jews may be the chosen ones, but amongst the other "tribes" of the world the ishmailites (Muslims) are the only other true monoaetheists", no matter how much jews, in particular zionists hate Muslims, and in particular Palestinians, practising jews still hold them in higher regard than pagans. secular jews might like indians cos they arent restricted by limiting their judgment of others to the strength of their monotheism, but even then, i havnt met many pro indian secular jews, and i even met one who spoke urdu / hindi.
 
Brotherhood between both nations is real. Pakistanis throwing isolated instances doesn't change the strong people to people connection Bharat-Israel have. The military cooperation against radical Islam was only a matter of time.

😂
 
Indian media is the worst when it comes to labelling own citicens as traitors. The other day they were going after Amir Khan and showed his old pictures with Erdogang and his wife. Why bring this up now? Their own PM Surrender Modi has met Erdogan multiple times but no one is questioning him.
 
Bibi is a wanted war criminal. Modi is a convicted and banned terrorist.

Bibi cannot only set foot in Amreeka and Israel. Modi cannot set foot anywhere cos he is a symbol of Hindutva failure.

By the time Modi will disappear, the world will be redrawing the global map with extra land for Bangladesh and China, and India reduce to a mere triangle.
 
Your posts used to be overly simplistic with little to no nuance before, now have taken it to the next level. Calling India prospering, and mocking people living under occupation, under apartheid, with no sovereignty over their land.
India is not prospering, The guy lives in Australia cos he decided to flee SupaPuwa India.

The cult are liars first, racist second.
 
Israel doesn't even consider itself to be part of Asia, that's why they enter the Eurovision song contest, and European football tournaments. This makes sense actually, since they are mostly invaders from Europe who settled in the middle east after the world wars following persecution of Jews in Europe.

What has that got to do with India? I don't know, maybe they would like to be part of the Eurovision as well? 🤷‍♂️
 
India is not prospering, The guy lives in Australia cos he decided to flee SupaPuwa India.

The cult are liars first, racist second.

Jeera blade,

Address me directly.

Don't be a coward like you were when you used to log on here with your previous above username...

I promise I will be nicer to you this time 😇
 
Jeera blade,

Address me directly.

Don't be a coward like you were when you used to log on here with your previous above username...

I promise I will be nicer to you this time 😇
He himself fled his beloved Pakistan to move to the UK to escape starvation and misery. Anyways, people like him are immune to humiliation, in fact they rather enjoy it :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
Israel doesn't even consider itself to be part of Asia, that's why they enter the Eurovision song contest, and European football tournaments. This makes sense actually, since they are mostly invaders from Europe who settled in the middle east after the world wars following persecution of Jews in Europe.

What has that got to do with India? I don't know, maybe they would like to be part of the Eurovision as well? 🤷‍♂️
Whatever, may God bless them, and turn their enemies into dust!
 
He himself fled his beloved Pakistan to move to the UK to escape starvation and misery. Anyways, people like him are immune to humiliation, in fact they rather enjoy it :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

Actually forgot he was a Britstani for a minute, good point 😁
 
India and Israel may cooperate at the government level, but on a people to people level, Israelis generally show little interest in Indians. To many of them, Pakistanis and Indians are seen as the same. In fact, an Indian is more likely to form a friendship or even marry someone from Pakistan or China than from Israel. :inti
 
Both the countries have a common enemy of Islamic terrorism and they empathise with each other from that pov. That is all about it and there is no love affair as such which OP is trying to highlight.
 
Israel doesn't even consider itself to be part of Asia, that's why they enter the Eurovision song contest, and European football tournaments. This makes sense actually, since they are mostly invaders from Europe who settled in the middle east after the world wars following persecution of Jews in Europe.

What has that got to do with India? I don't know, maybe they would like to be part of the Eurovision as well? 🤷‍♂️
Isreal and India share a deep bond with the Swatsika.
 
India and Israel may cooperate at the government level, but on a people to people level, Israelis generally show little interest in Indians. To many of them, Pakistanis and Indians are seen as the same. In fact, an Indian is more likely to form a friendship or even marry someone from Pakistan or China than from Israel. :inti

Indians are not considered marriage material outside of Asia no matter how much bootlicking they do.
 
Indians are not considered marriage material outside of Asia no matter how much bootlicking they do.

Indians around the world are increasingly marrying beyond national boundaries, driven largely by their growing global success and upward mobility. The rise of India as a respected global brand also plays a significant role in enhancing the appeal of Indian professionals internationally.

In contrast, individuals from Pakistan often face greater challenges in forming cross-national relationships, due in part to negative international perceptions tied to issues like economic instability, extremism, and social controversies.

Case is worse with Bangladeshis who are not even seen as potential friends by most, let alone the prospect of blind dating (Pakistan) or marrying (Indians)
 
Post #138 summarizes why there is a bond between India and Israel. That is the only truth.

Rest all, like whether Israeli women find Indian men marriage material or not etc are pure conjecture and good for fun reading & time pass without any realm of relevance.

#FACTS
 
Indians around the world are increasingly marrying beyond national boundaries, driven largely by their growing global success and upward mobility. The rise of India as a respected global brand also plays a significant role in enhancing the appeal of Indian professionals internationally.

In contrast, individuals from Pakistan often face greater challenges in forming cross-national relationships, due in part to negative international perceptions tied to issues like economic instability, extremism, and social controversies.

Case is worse with Bangladeshis who are not even seen as potential friends by most, let alone the prospect of blind dating (Pakistan) or marrying (Indians)

Where is your basis for this assertion coming from?
 
Plenty of examples in my own family, friends circle. Also social media is full of stories of Indians with foreign wives all over the world. This is despite the cultural differences. When you’re professionally successful women fall in line.


In the west usually it is the successful Indian women who marry out, I can provide plenty of examples. Indian professional men don't seem to have the same success. At least it's not apparent from watching western films or shows which would give some independent validation to your claims.
 
In the west usually it is the successful Indian women who marry out, I can provide plenty of examples. Indian professional men don't seem to have the same success. At least it's not apparent from watching western films or shows which would give some independent validation to your claims.

Western shows lol.
A million Indian soldiers fought world wars and yet Spielberg and Nolan never showed a single brown : Sikh soldier in their war movies. That’s how much the West cares about true representation.

No complaints however as we are changing the world order anyway. Just a matter of few decades.
 
Western shows lol.
A million Indian soldiers fought world wars and yet Spielberg and Nolan never showed a single brown : Sikh soldier in their war movies. That’s how much the West cares about true representation.

No complaints however as we are changing the world order anyway. Just a matter of few decades.

Well that was my point. Indians are generally considered a poor catch, not considered desirable at all. Even your own Bollywood heroes complained about this when they tried to break into Hollywood and were laughed out of Tinseltown.
 
Israel and India enjoy strong diplomatic ties. And has been the ally of each other for a long time. But does the populace of both countries share the same bond of friendship or respect. Or is it just some Indians who spend their whole day defending Israel war crimes on online platforms?

Of late we have also seen some posts and videos circulating on social media platforms where Israel's people show complete disdain and disregard for their Indian fellows. Are these videos the correct depiction of reality or the bond between Israel and Indian people is as strong as bond between Afghans and Indias
A few years ago, during my travels in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv, I noticed a significant number of Indian workers employed in the service sector on the Israeli side. Many of them were young, university-educated, and clearly overqualified for the roles they were doing. I found it easier to speak with them, as they spoke English, and many mentioned that the jobs paid well and allowed them to send money back to India. I spoke to multiple "Indian Jews" who had grown up in Mumbai or so they claimed...

When I asked about their treatment in Israel, they usually avoided giving direct answers or changed the subject. While they didn’t openly express any strong opinions—perhaps due to my visibly Muslim background—they also didn’t comment on the Israeli-Palestinian situation. That said, it’s common for people to avoid sensitive topics in such environments, especially when they’re far from home and focused on work.

General experience with Israelis, especially while backpacking, was that they often came across as blunt or discourteous, sometimes with an air of entitlement and it is well known and understood by many.

Indians seemed to be filling many low-paid, including at bus stations and in other public-facing roles. Travel guides also note that Tel Aviv and Jerusalem have a prominent LGBTQ+ scene, and some mention Indian participation in that space, though I can't personally verify those claims.
 
I think Indians and Pakistanis are viewed quite badly in the world. Propaganda is usually against them. Both the west and Arab countries, I imagine even east Asia. Israel probably sees them similarly to the west. Not saying that south Asians don’t have rights or treated with respect, which on the whole I feel they are from my experience in uk. But I’m always aware of the negative propaganda that is directed against south Asians. I think a lot of it comes from poor representation and under representation is media. It’s something I do feel a bit sad about, even if I do feel lucky to have a privileged life in uk and not experience open racism nor have my life affected much by racism.

The funny thing is most in the west can not tell the difference between Indians and Pakistanis. They are lumped together. I do think there is a slight distinguish between them and Sri Lankans who are often portrayed in a better light. But Indian and Pakistanis are treated the same and portrayed in the same way in media. I wouldn’t be surprised if Israel saw Indians the same as how most of the west sees them.

And despite both Indian and Pakistanis often seen in worse light in the rest of the world, they bicker and turn on each other. They bring each other down. Which is an issue which most of the world simply laughs at on how ridiculous it is. I’m not saying that reasons for this aren’t understandable with terroism claims etc. But most of the west don’t see that. In the same way in places like UK, most Pakistanis and Indians realise there is no point discriminating against each other, as they are basically seen as the same.

This ongoing feud between India and Pakistan is extremely damaging in terms of the world view by other countries. Damage is probably already done honestly and will take a long time to recover even if the feuds stop.
 
I think Indians and Pakistanis are viewed quite badly in the world. Propaganda is usually against them. Both the west and Arab countries, I imagine even east Asia. Israel probably sees them similarly to the west. Not saying that south Asians don’t have rights or treated with respect, which on the whole I feel they are from my experience in uk. But I’m always aware of the negative propaganda that is directed against south Asians. I think a lot of it comes from poor representation and under representation is media. It’s something I do feel a bit sad about, even if I do feel lucky to have a privileged life in uk and not experience open racism nor have my life affected much by racism.

The funny thing is most in the west can not tell the difference between Indians and Pakistanis. They are lumped together. I do think there is a slight distinguish between them and Sri Lankans who are often portrayed in a better light. But Indian and Pakistanis are treated the same and portrayed in the same way in media. I wouldn’t be surprised if Israel saw Indians the same as how most of the west sees them.

And despite both Indian and Pakistanis often seen in worse light in the rest of the world, they bicker and turn on each other. They bring each other down. Which is an issue which most of the world simply laughs at on how ridiculous it is. I’m not saying that reasons for this aren’t understandable with terroism claims etc. But most of the west don’t see that. In the same way in places like UK, most Pakistanis and Indians realise there is no point discriminating against each other, as they are basically seen as the same.

This ongoing feud between India and Pakistan is extremely damaging in terms of the world view by other countries. Damage is probably already done honestly and will take a long time to recover even if the feuds stop.


I couldn't agree with you more.
But this is what the Pakistanis must realize because it is them who are obsessed with creating a different Arab identity for them which even the Arabs don't buy as you mentioned rightly. To the whole world, Pakistanis and Indians are the same people and they're not even wrong about it because that's the truth. Yet you have your Failed Marshal Munir giving speeches in the parliament about how muslims and hindus cannot co-exist and stuff like that.
 
Back
Top