Iran and Saudis egos are the biggest roadblocks to peace in the middle east and Muslim unity in general. Saudis are slowly beginning to focus on what's important for their nations progress, while Iran is so indoctrinated with religious fundamental bluster that common sense is thrown out of the window!
No real attack, this is it. Hopefully Israel, US & Co do not retaliate.
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Yeap the nuke facility along with removing the existing political regime would be the main goal of all this.
Other muslim nations support of Iran will mean not much really, the other muslims nations don't have any military or intel they can provide that is useful.
You can talk about history in a different thread. Open it and we can talk. The current escalation is orchestrated by Iranian regime and they should be smashed with no mercy.
Iranian regime needs conflict in the region to stay in power. The Shia fanatics need an enemy be it Israel or Arabs to garner public support for them.
How many Hamas soldiers have been killed till now by Israel? Compare it with the innocent people of Palestine martyred by the Pathetic Israeli army. Israel is not trying to force hamas out of there, they are killing the next generation of Palestine. I guess you are not watching the news about the number of children martyred till now.
Easy to sit here and comment why innocent citizens of Gaza are dying. But Hamas is clearly hiding among people. They want citizens to die to garner more sympathy and recruits for future. Death of innocents is what makes Hamas thrive.
I guess you don't know about Gorilla War. Hamas is no army with tanks and aircraft. There is a huge difference.
Honestly, its not such a big deal. Its more a matter of competence. Arabs fought two wars against Israel, they lost both due to their sheer incompetence and not because Israelis are some alien force that its impossible to defeat them. This so called drone and missile attack by Iran was a face saving attempt, they never had the resolve to actually attack Iran. I am afraid this has also given Israel the best reason to attack Iran now directly.
Although I am not justifying Hamas' attack on Israel in October, but Israel has historically been oppressing and killing Palestinians who have nothing to do with war. I don't know how someone in his right mind can be fine with innocent citizens dying in thousands who had nothing to do with the attack (both in Palestine and Israel)
Iran is the Ollie Robinson here. All aggression but no results.
Who has betrayed palestine?
Shame on people who live and support such govts
How can you say no one supports them when they were clearly elected to power.
True. Iran made a statement and responded to the attacks Israel did on their embassy. This was always on cards.
How will Iran get money?
its not derailing the topic. He is a PM of UK, and made a statement with regards to the topic and thus my post was in that context.
As per the media, a 10-year-old Arab girl was severely injured.
I know there's a natural human tendency for "both sidesism" but the root of this conflict is Saudi Arabia's refusal to accept Iran as an equal economic, political and strategic power in the region.
iran isnt quite like a normal nation state is it tho, they've already launched rockets at Iraq, syria and Pakistan this year, obvious not the same scale as those launched against Israel, but in terms of damage done not particularly different, and then quietly withdrawn without doing anything else.
but iran is not saudi's equal, in economic power, in diplomatic networks, in access to tech and capital, in regional or global influence, or religious importance given the ratio of sunnis to shias.
I am believer in Muslim unity because as the last 300 years have shown, you get picked off one by one and either they rule you directly or indirectly( like they do with us for pretty much our entirety. The Palestinian issue could be solved by Qatar and Saudi in a day- you threaten to cut off gas and oil, it will give you more power than the Zionists and all this can be done without firing a shot.
Unless they have something up their sleeve, at make sure some missiles hit Millitary basis. Iran can't be invaded because of its geographical location, so ensure you have decent air defences and at least destroy the invincibility of these thugs
if you believe in Muslim unity than shouldnt you be living in a state doctrine by religion?
Thanks to the economic and political warfare Saudi Arabia and its Western stringpullers have subjected Iran to since 1979.
In terms of the sectarian divide the Saudis caused in Pakistan, you have to look at the Saudi's in two groups. The divide was pretty much started Pre MBS, who were funding Wahabism in Pakistan and had opened up Madrassahs which were brainwashing men and women. Families had gone so crazy that if you had a child called Rafay and you called him that, their mothers would start attacking you saying that because its Gods name, so say Abdul or dont say his name.
lol, but Pakistan doesnt even recognize Israel or have any diplomatic relations.
Iran is facing an enemy that is stronger than all of those things that Pakistan faced combined and timed 100.
Iraq and Syria is under semi Iranian control. With Pakistan they attacked a nuclear backed nation to send a message. I don't think they have quietly withdrawn from anywhere.
MBS has stopped the funding for these groups but irreparable damage has been done to the fabric of Pakistani society.
It's all about unity and more importantly money well spent. Our Muslim guys buy horses, houses and hores, the Israelis buy whole govts.
A collective guilty conscious for what they allowed when Hitler was doing. Than one thing you have to give credit to jews is the way they used their money to get good education and have established themselves in important roles in govts and countries. Plus, they have told the oppression they faced in the past in the form of media. They rightly did so which makes the masses to have sympathy for them.
Israel is the only functioning democracy and west loves them.
Once upon a time it became America's lynchpin in the Middle East and has continued to be so since. It's a reliable ally inbetween a cesspit of conflicts and inter-Arab rivalries. Plus the Jew lobby is smart, rich and influential.
the reality of geo-politics is that any form of isolationism will hurt your economy in an increasingly connected global economy, whilst its convenient to assume irani isolationism through the lens of western ostracisation the regime itself would not be able to survive as it is opening to the world.
iranian proxy control does not mean those countries are not sovereign nations still. israel has faced far greater existential threats in the past, and thrived. as long as it has US backing that wont change.
Bro iran has its own issues with the west and Israel they are just using poor palistine as an excuse.
