I am not sure they even attempted to play bazball other than Smith threw his bat around when he was with tail. Almost everyone got out while trying to defend the ball not attacking. Those massive seaming deliveries were near unplayable.
Its time for the great one.
I really liked that delivery to Brook, seamed in so much that it was nigh impossible for Brook or any batsman to negotiate that.
Yeah, the likes of Chetan Sharma and Madan Lal too come to mind.
That doesn’t even make any sense.
I hope you are not being sarcastic... Sometimes they may appear average (including Kapil, Srinath)... But they try really hard and they have only these pitches to practice and work with... So whatever they have achieved must be appreciated... They don't have helpful pitches (and it is not possible to straight away adjust line & length when they go overseas, that is another difficulty they have to overcome and hence they cannot straight away match with their opponent counterparts) and also in the past the diet/fitness, the facilities and even the professional environment was missing... So whatever and whenever they achieve, it must be appreciated... (at least we don't blame much when they are termed as trundlers, useless bowlers, etc... But when they perform well they deserve minimum appreciation!)
Not at all sarcastic.
Because they are scared of Bumrah. It's as simple as that
Bhumrah is scared of England that he dropped himself
Madanlal was not in the squad originally. He was playing county cricket. THey made a last minute replacement. He took 3 for 18. More than the bowling it is Dilip Vengsarkar batting that was deluxe. Conditions were swinging conditions. Binny was whopping corners. But Vengsarkar 102 & 61 at Leeds is two of the greatest innings in England.
Current English batting is worse against movement than literally any Indian batting line up in history.
Root alone is better than all Indian and Australian batsmen in history.
Yeah. That's he has struggled to keep that batting average above 50 despite batting on such subcontinental pitches
Kohli average 47 LOL
Lol and what ? Kohli is the only Indian batsman in history ?
Yea. He is bette.r. Agreed. That is why Akash and SIraj will go down in the history as the greatest fast bowlers like Malcom marshall. Dismissing him cheaply.
Thakur too.he got him twice at an avg of 17 in 21 series
nice logic tullugu so if Joe Root gets your hero Yashavi Jaswal out in a game it means he is better than Warne?
Ya if he bowls a delivery like Warne and get him out lol
I mean - if you’re gonna make a statement, then back it up.
I mean - if you’re gonna make a statement, then back it up.
India did not have Bumrah back then. That was a highly defensive era. Bazball era they will struggle massively against moving balls.
So what ? That batting lineup has Cook and others who could actually play the moving ball. You have backed up nothing yourself
They did have Bumrah in 2018, they also had Bumrah two weeks ago in the match India lost!!
What’s that got to do with India not being able to play the moving ball.
If the current England themselves can't play the moving ball , then what relative advantage can seaming pitches offer ?
The reason England opted for flat pitch in first 2 matches was to avert Bumrah Threat (due to their ability/inability to play the moving ball). In these tests they underasses Indian Batsman, and Indian Bowling Quality and were over confident with their Bazball, which got them first test due to Indian catch drops but backfired in the secoond test. Any change of pitches in next three tests may also backfire due to their lesser potent bowling attack.
That was Bumrah's first test match season. First test was not a seaming track. precisely my point. THey need a flat deck to negate Bumrah and other Aussie bowlers. You sound like green top will guarantee them wins. They had lost 17 out of 20 tests before bazball. Didn't they pummell you in your own backyard by scoring 800 ? They can challenge any team on flat track. THey came a cropper against India doesn't mean they will lose to other teams on those tracks
As if England and other teams are good at playing moving ball lol THey also struggled against moving ball.INdia recently routed SA for 55 runs in one inningswhen they gave us spicy track. Siraj took 6fer. Why would they risk that? Their fundamental philosophy of outbatting opposition will go out of the window.
In recent times, majority Indian posters have revealed their true colors and become trolls.
What about the 2021 series? That series actually had players common to this series.
Fixed. This disclaimer is important whenever we talk about Bumrah. No one knows when he will play and when he won’t.
Even 2018 series was close. None of the toss went our way. Lost all of them if i am right. Also gifted 12 wickets to Moeen Ali in 2 tests. That played a major role. 2 decisive knocks by Curran completely turned the fortunes in favor of England. It was a low scoring series. Only Andu was stand out there. Others were all more or less the same.
Leaving all the others who were dismissed cheaply in both innings, centurions brook and Smith were horrible against the moving ball in the second innings. They were not even moving the front foot to negate swing or seam.both wants to stand and deliver like wi batsmen. It shows technique of the highest order hacks.
Whenever he does he will rattle them up, no worries.
Shakib is generally seen as the third wheel when compared to Ben Stokes and Ravindra Jadeja.
That is because Indian and English media are very influential and hype up their players like others cannot.
The main reason for that was that he was a FTB in Test cricket. If he was a better all-round Test batsman, he would be in the conversation.
If Shkaib played for India or England, he would have always been under massive scrutiny and would have criticised consistently for not being able to deliver overseas. His lack of motivation for playing towards country would have led to media and fans attacking his house and burning his posters everywhere in the country.
Sakib has a double-century in New Zealand. That innings alone is bigger than Jadeja’s entire batting career.If Shkaib played for India or England, he would have always been under massive scrutiny and would have criticised consistently for not being able to deliver overseas. His lack of motivation for playing towards country would have led to media and fans attacking his house and burning his posters everywhere in the country.
That’s completely rubbish. Fact is Shakib has won nothing for Bangladesh whether at home or away while Jadeja has actually won games for his team everywhere. He made India an invincible side at home between 2015-2023 while Shakib couldn’t even win a test match against India anywhere home or away. Jadeja has also won games away from home.
stats.espncricinfo.com
That’s completely rubbish. Fact is Shakib has won nothing for Bangladesh whether at home or away while Jadeja has actually won games for his team everywhere. He made India an invincible side at home between 2015-2023 while Shakib couldn’t even win a test match against India anywhere home or away. Jadeja has also won games away from home.
Shakib and Stokes are at same level while Jadeja is a level above. Jadeja actually has a claim to be the greatest spin A/R in the history of the game. That’s how great a player he is. Simply outstanding and the numbers don’t lie. Even if he fails this game, his bowl avg of 24-25 and bat avg of 35-36 puts him in a league of his own.
Nonsense.Against major opponents such as SENAI, let’s look at stats for the three A/R in discussion:
Jadeja - Bat Avg 31.9, Bowl Avg 25
Shakib - Bat Avg 32.5, Bowl Avg 31
Stokes - Bat Avg 35, Bowl Avg 35
All-round records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPNcricinfo.com
The stats against top opponents is the best illustration of who is the better player of the three. It clearly indicates that Jadeja is well ahead of Shakib and Stokes as bowler and only slightly behind them as batter. While he may not have a double hundred like Stokes or Shakib, he does have a 175* to boost for. He could have continued batting and hit a double ton if wanted. Jadeja is comfortably a better test A/R than both Stokes and Shakib.
