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"It was Mickey Arthur who came here and started this problem of fitness tests" : Kamran Akmal

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"It was Mickey Arthur who came here and started this problem of fitness tests" : Kamran Akmal

Kamran Akmal in an interview on Aap News:

"Pakistan's wickets have always been good. It's our bad luck that we have played for 10 years in UAE which has cost us. If that cricket was played in Pakistan, those guys who have played 60-70-80 Tests would be in the top 3-5 like Babar or they wouldn't have played so much. Our pitches are bouncy and have good pace. These guys are lucky that they played 10 years in UAE, Pakistan pitches are very good"

"Domestic cricket pitches are perfect, I don't know why they have brought in foreign experts. T20 pitches are made according to the requirement, ODI pitches have 300+ runs and Test matches had such good pitches so there is no problem"

"I don't lose heart but there is a limit. It's been 5 years, you have brought a new system which will have the best quality, best talent and whoever performs will automatically be considered. Should I go and perform in India or Australia to be considered? I am Pakistan's player, I have been performing since 5 years, how much should I tolerate it? Should I go to the Prime Minister and say this is my performance for 5 years? If there's someone who is playing ahead of me with fantastic performances, that's fine. I said play me as a wicket-keeper if needed"

"In T20, there is a spot available but you are forcefully playing someone else. This is Pakistan's team, keep Pakistan in front. If someone is performing, they should be picked. There are many players like me who are deserving, like Fawad Alam, look at his performances. I think his limit has also been reached. Am I talking without performances? There's a World Cup coming up, I have performed in PSL, and in domestic in all formats and I am a top performer. Misbah should look at these things. Before this, what Mickey Arthur did with Pakistan's cricket, everyone knows how much bad effects liking and disliking had. Misbah knows how much struggle he did himself and he got what he deserved, I think I should also get what I deserve"

"By focusing on fitness and youngsters, we have taken our team to #8. We don't look at performance or skill anymore, domestic is not considered. Since PSL started, people are selected after 1-2 innings, and not even big innings, 30s and 40s like Asif Ali, Hussain Talat, Ahsan Ali. What is their performance? Ahsan Ali didn't play even one match in division 1 in FC and you selected him. What is the criteria for selection?"

"Today India aren't selecting Sanju Samson because he doesn't perform in red ball cricket. They give importance to Ranji Trophy and then IPL. Fitness won't come until you focus on skills. Skills bring fitness, everyone works hard during off season. Take fitness tests, but I think people know how to handle themselves. I have been playing for years and never had any fitness problems. We play club cricket during off season. These guys don't even play in club cricket, how will they become fit? They need to make a policy that players who aren't in the Pakistan team should play club matches, then we'll see how professional they are. Yoyo and 1 km tests should be done but it shouldn't be the policy for selection, that you will only be selected if you pass the test, skill should be the basis for selection"

"How many fitness tests did Younis bhai and Misbah bhai give? It was Mickey Arthur who came here and started this problem of fitness tests. This policy won't make players focus on fitness and because of these policies, our cricket is going down"

"The culture has become like this, Abid Ali who made hundreds is hiding his face due to his test results. His confidence is being brought down. We all played domestic cricket this season and we played all matches without getting tired. This is completely wrong, focus on matches and skill and then fitness will come"

"I am happy that Imad Wasim has been selected, his criteria isn't fitness, his criteria is that he does well for the team. If fitness was the criteria for him, he would never be in the team. Yasir Shah got 200 wickets and is bowling 40 overs, he didn't pass tests. But he is doing 40 overs and fielding well. Fitness is a natural thing"

"The examples are all in front of us. Shoaib Akhtar, Inzi bhai, Yousuf bhai, they would be hiding in the field. Inzi bhai was a great slip catcher. Shoaib bhai would only bowl, he won you matches. Do you think we are crazy? They are making cricketers go crazy now"

"Abid Ali has come into the team so late, just let him play now and let him enjoy. What are you making him focus on?"

"Pakistan need to bring a trainer who can make the players fit, not unfit like Hasan Ali is out for months. We are also hearing things about Fakhar and Rizwan, why aren't these players gaining fitness?"

"I am not angry with my provincial team but you know all my stats and achievements. Now it wouldn't be nice if I accepted 50,000 monthly (so I turned down provincial contract). I am getting my salary from WAPDA and until that's coming, I don't think I need PCB's 50,000"

"The people who gave the advice to make this system, did they talk about salary? Those ex-cricketers who come to Pakistan just to meet their family, I don't want to take names. They say that the domestic cricket is this and that and we need a new system. They also came through this system. How many houses are you destroying for cricketers and their families and making them suffer? We know how much players are suffering since dept. cricket finished. In the next couple of months, we'll see how badly this has impacted Pakistan cricket. Sure, make your new system but you will have to bring departments back if you want to raise good and fit players"
 
Most overrated and terrible batsman to ever play consistently for Pakistan in History.

Combine that with his terrible keeping, awful footwork, shambolic fitness and a rubbish attitude = you get the player Kami has always been.

Interestingly, while touted as being an aggressive batsman, his limited over strike rate has always been below par.
 
to be honest we need him for 20 20 world cup...otherwise we have no chance i was hoping for abid ali as part time keeper and opener but atleast this guy has had a go...rizwan will not do anything in 20 20s
 
The alternatives are:

Imam
Fakhar
Shehzad

Will people seriously not consider Kami for the opener slot in Aus?

You want Imam? Shehzad?

Who's the alternative vs pacers, someone who can change the game? And is also performing in domestics?
 
This is another reason not to pick him His attitude Hes another with a sense of entitlement Players his age retire with grace not linger like a bad adour in the background He had his time and he blew it by taking it for granted

Instead of getting fit we get this moaning and groaning Horrid attitude and the longer he stays away from the pakistan team the better
 
i do agree about attitude but what can a player do he is 35 not a young spring chicken...and since his drops he could never get that DROPMAL tag off him...but being to fair to him just like Faddyy he has been performing every season...we soon need to start thinking outside the box..even India said yesterday they will keep persisting with RAHUL with makeshift keeper to get their balance right not that they even need to do that
 
The alternatives are:

Imam
Fakhar
Shehzad

Will people seriously not consider Kami for the opener slot in Aus?

You want Imam? Shehzad?

Who's the alternative vs pacers, someone who can change the game? And is also performing in domestics?

I replied to you in the other thread but you just ignored me. Because no one who supports Kami can ever justify it. How many games has he changed in his career?
 
The alternatives are:

Imam
Fakhar
Shehzad

Will people seriously not consider Kami for the opener slot in Aus?

You want Imam? Shehzad?

Who's the alternative vs pacers, someone who can change the game? And is also performing in domestics?

You have love for mediocre players so no surprises there.
 
The other option is sarfraz
Does anyone want sarfraz back in the t20 side?

At least kamran has the ability to score at a high strike rate
 
Haha you clown. Yes Mickey Arthur invented the idea of professional athletes needing to be fit.
 
The other option is sarfraz
Does anyone want sarfraz back in the t20 side?

At least kamran has the ability to score at a high strike rate
High strike rate for 15 runs ? 25 at tops.
Do not remember Kami doing anything substantial in any format of game batting wise (internal) bar one test inning.
 
Haha you clown. Yes Mickey Arthur invented the idea of professional athletes needing to be fit.

Just for this rubbish i hope this shameless clown doesn't ever play domestics or PSL. A serial match losser.
 
The entire interview is utterly appalling. You shameless piece of garbage - any self-respecting cricketer would've retired and never uttered a word again after the Sydney Test where you looked like a schoolboy.

The whole world is running fitness tests so that our players can actually field and maximise their skills, not lumber around like a grandpa in their slippers like you did in the Caribbean in 2017.

Central Punjab should fire Kamran for these statements. I cannot believe these are the "mentors" our youngsters have in domestic cricket. Also if you don't like the new system, then get to stepping and retire already.
 
Pakistani culture. These guys wouldn’t get selected to represent counties and even if they do, they will get laid off by the age of 33

In Pakistan it seems fitness and being too old for cricket is overrated
 
Would not select neither of Akmal brothers, toxic to the team and are mentally incapable of understanding simple concept of fitness, younger brother have destroyed his own career.

Should utilize league cricket in whatever remaining cricketing years these brothers have left.
 
Why are people so interested in interviewing Kamran Akmal every couple of weeks?
 
I must say Mickey did a good job in terms of bringing in the fitness culture and its being continued as well by Misbah as we can clearly see Abid Ali and others getting fitter. Even Sarfaraz is much more leaner now so a good trend was set which is being continued.

Imad and Haris look like tough nuts to crack as no management has been able to change them much.

I dont think Kamran's exclusion has much to do with fitness rather its due to him being a liability in the field without gloves. Further he is 38 and averaged 17 in 4 matches of National T20 cup. He did well in QAE 2019 though. I think Kami underachieved as a batsmen in international cricket.
 
This interview is a microcosm of EVERYTHING that is wrong with players that we're producing, culture we're breeding, coaches and experts we have on the ground (in regions, districts and zones) and on tv . .

And just to sum it up . . I watched an interview of Virat Kohli where he said something so thought provoking yet simple that made me realize why India is now a top top team in the world and we are where we are . .

He said something along the lines of . . Imagine a scenario where a batter hits the ball in the air going towards the outfield . . One player (fit, athletic, agile, quick, etc. etc. ) is quick off the blocks, sprints towards the ball and takes an easy catch . . everyone is happy . . they got a wicket . . Imagine the same exact same scenario . . where another player on the boundary is slightly slower off the blocks . . runs towards the ball . . . puts in the most amazing dive and drops the ball . . and everyone goes like . . WHAT AN EFFORT! that was a tough catch . . one that wasn't expected to be taken in the first place . . and then he concluded saying . . Who do you applaud? How do you study that? This small play could be the difference between winning and losing . . the margins are so small in today's cricket! and the subtleties involved are unbelievable . .

he said the same is true for running between the wickets . . when you make a century on a hot day and your team needs you to carry on but you just don't have it in you . . or you are batting on a 70 with most of your runs coming from running between the wickets but your team now wants you to get going and accelerate in the last 7 8 overs of the innings . . and you try to hit out, or push ones into twos and twos into threes . .but you just don't have the energy, fitness . . and you get caught in the deep in your 1st or 2nd attempt . . or run out . . Again . . Margins!!

Anyway, this just shows the difference of mentality and professionalism!!

For us, what Kamran said is something I have heard so many times in and around the Pakistan cricket setup that you just begin to unpack why we are ranked in the bottom half of the table!

Anyway, Kamran Akmal saying this is hardly a surprise . . so I am not going to comment on this clownish statement . . but what worries me is the gulf between where we need to be and where we are . . whereby the guy who tried to emphasize on fitness is the villian and Kamran and his brother are victims!
 
This interview is a microcosm of EVERYTHING that is wrong with players that we're producing, culture we're breeding, coaches and experts we have on the ground (in regions, districts and zones) and on tv . .

And just to sum it up . . I watched an interview of Virat Kohli where he said something so thought provoking yet simple that made me realize why India is now a top top team in the world and we are where we are . .

He said something along the lines of . . Imagine a scenario where a batter hits the ball in the air going towards the outfield . . One player (fit, athletic, agile, quick, etc. etc. ) is quick off the blocks, sprints towards the ball and takes an easy catch . . everyone is happy . . they got a wicket . . Imagine the same exact same scenario . . where another player on the boundary is slightly slower off the blocks . . runs towards the ball . . . puts in the most amazing dive and drops the ball . . and everyone goes like . . WHAT AN EFFORT! that was a tough catch . . one that wasn't expected to be taken in the first place . . and then he concluded saying . . Who do you applaud? How do you study that? This small play could be the difference between winning and losing . . the margins are so small in today's cricket! and the subtleties involved are unbelievable . .

he said the same is true for running between the wickets . . when you make a century on a hot day and your team needs you to carry on but you just don't have it in you . . or you are batting on a 70 with most of your runs coming from running between the wickets but your team now wants you to get going and accelerate in the last 7 8 overs of the innings . . and you try to hit out, or push ones into twos and twos into threes . .but you just don't have the energy, fitness . . and you get caught in the deep in your 1st or 2nd attempt . . or run out . . Again . . Margins!!

Anyway, this just shows the difference of mentality and professionalism!!

For us, what Kamran said is something I have heard so many times in and around the Pakistan cricket setup that you just begin to unpack why we are ranked in the bottom half of the table!

Anyway, Kamran Akmal saying this is hardly a surprise . . so I am not going to comment on this clownish statement . . but what worries me is the gulf between where we need to be and where we are . . whereby the guy who tried to emphasize on fitness is the villian and Kamran and his brother are victims!

It’s as if Pakistani players want to have their cake and eat it, literally.
 
He rambled on and on but he does make an interesting point. While fitness is of paramount importance, is advisable to pick a fit but poor player over an unfit but quality player?

For examples, Shadab dives around like a dolphin in the field but that fitness of his has not helped him become a good bowler or a batsman.

Fitness should not be the criteria for selection. If you don’t have the talent, the skill and the technique, your abs should not influence your selection.

The aim should be to ensure that your skilled players improve their fitness instead of rewarding unskilled players for their fitness.
 
Its because Misbah, bringing in Hafeez back, who is not allowed to bowl now and past 40 already , now everyone including Kamran asking, if out of form and older Hafeez is in, why not me ?
 
Kamran Akmal is talking rubbsih, fitness of Pak players is the reason that we are unable to score big, we are winning only due to our bowling talent.:hasan2
 
Thank you Misbah,
Thank you for your comments couple days ago regarding Kamran and Salman. You just bought life to experience and corrupt players and now they are coming out their graves.
Misbah the batting coach, head coach, and Cheifs selector, who has no vision or set goals, don’t know which direction he wants to take Pakistan cricket. In his search for match winners he is bringing back the same old experience grandpa culture that Mickey worked so hard to get rid off, if someone says we don’t have enough talent that’s a joke.
We can develop culture and have a vision and set goals and things will fall into its place, where did Fakhar came from when we didn’t had any openers where did Shadab Imad, Imam Abid Shaheen Harris, even Harris has not been given a chance yet and looked what he did in BBL.
These experience players want Captain to attack by having slips in place all the time, and they want the Captain to place them in slips bc they are too slow and lazy to run around field and chase the ball.
In every sports all the athletes are being designed to their strengths and abilities, super fit LeBron James, Ronaldo, Messi they don’t change their positions just so they can milk the system
 
He rambled on and on but he does make an interesting point. While fitness is of paramount importance, is advisable to pick a fit but poor player over an unfit but quality player?

For examples, Shadab dives around like a dolphin in the field but that fitness of his has not helped him become a good bowler or a batsman.

Fitness should not be the criteria for selection. If you don’t have the talent, the skill and the technique, your abs should not influence your selection.

The aim should be to ensure that your skilled players improve their fitness instead of rewarding unskilled players for their fitness.

This. Rohit Sharma is such a brilliant batsman but he is probably the chubbiest player playing for a top team. Pakistan is obessing over over fitness too much. Fitness should be the second priority and skill the first
 
Is this lost in translation though, no way he could had said it like that lol
 
How can fitness tests be a problem ? :kakmal

Theyre a problem when you cant pass them lol Its shocking how someone whos been around for years can say fitness tests dont matter

Other side of the border we have guys like kohli taking their strength diet agility power and speed to another level and in pakistan we have the likes of kami and his brother who blames his excess weight on drinking water
 
He does make some fair points about form over fitness and scoring heavily in domestic matches. It will be interesting to see if he gets picked for the T20 team.
 
Lmao
When was the last time Rohit dropped a catch or didn’t chase the ball. Correct me if I am wrong but I think Rohit has more double toms then Kamran has hundreds, to hit double tons requires lots of strength. Rohit might be chubby I can bet you he will score better than Haffeez, Kamran and Salman Butt
 
He makes some good points. Fitness is important, but if your fitness is good enough that it doesn't impact your performance fine. It's also important you can field well, which is a struggle if your fitness is bad. Though in terms of fitness only the extreme cases really stood out. Irfan wasn't fit enough to bowl full quota, Umar akmal at times, Sharjeel's fitness meant he got tired in longer innings.

I've said before, guys who perform in all 3 formats, at least 2 should be considered. Guys who just perform at 1, they usually lack the hunger to succeed or there's something wrong with their game. Especially those who struggle in first class, but succeed in domestic Limited overs, there's probably a technique issue. Even if you perform at all 3 formats in domestic you might still be just a limited overs international player, e.g. perhaps Fakhar. But if you don't have the ability to do well in first class, serious doubts whether international standard or not.

Kamran has been the best player in domestic over all formats for years, most including PSL where standard of players are higher due to international and Pakistani national team players. He deserved a longer rope. On the other hand his career in general, he was given too many international matches, when his average was poor, and no real domination of domestic. I'm sure if he had put in the hard work to improve himself like he did in domestic earlier when we should have dropped him, he would have turned out a decent international player. We did it too late however.

I'm not really a fan of selecting guys with poor records or had just a few good games who are "talented". Pick guys who have performed and amongst the best in multiple formats consistently for years. The former never usually works out, if they're struggling to perform in domestic, they don't magically excel in internationals. The whole domestic is rubbish argument doesn't work, as if you can not do well in domestic with "as bad" as it is, you truly must be an awful player.
 
I must applaud Akmal Sr for his knowledge of Indian domestic circuit. That Samson reference was on point.
 
By far the worst aspect of PSL is that it allows clowns like him to keep making a case for selection
 
He rambled on and on but he does make an interesting point. While fitness is of paramount importance, is advisable to pick a fit but poor player over an unfit but quality player?

For examples, Shadab dives around like a dolphin in the field but that fitness of his has not helped him become a good bowler or a batsman.

Fitness should not be the criteria for selection. If you don’t have the talent, the skill and the technique, your abs should not influence your selection.

The aim should be to ensure that your skilled players improve their fitness instead of rewarding unskilled players for their fitness.

Your posts are seriously getting redundant where you go on a rant and don’t have anything of value. Sharjeel is an example under Mickey that played despite having poor fitness. Shadab plays because there really is no alternative right arm spinner who can bat a bit. Unless you think Bilal Asif should get a go.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if Kamran and his brother suffer from some kind of hereditary mental illness. Both are extremely entitled and narcissistic as well as come across very foolish without ever showing any improvement in their mannerisms or behaviour.

Kamran had an lengthy run as Pakistan's WK and lost his spot, then was even recalled and flopped, but from the way he talks you'd think he'd never been capped.
 
Is this lost in translation though, no way he could had said it like that lol

He said something along the lines of "Ye Mickey Arthur ne aa ke masla daala hai fitness ka" in the context of Misbah and Younis not giving fitness tests in the past. Apparently, yoyo tests are taking Pakistan cricket down.
 
One thing for sure is correct. PCB is picking the players from PSL which is worst for long term plan.

These players tend to lose form very fast.
 
Anyone who says fitness tests are a problem should be banned from playing for Pakistan. Everyone has fitness tests. Even 12 year olds in New Zealand have to go through fitness tests before they get selected for a good team.
 
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We have poor players that are not fit. We need players that are fit and have the skills to compete at the international level. It cant be difficult to get skilled players fit if they want to work hard. If they dont, tell them to get lost.
 
This is another reason not to pick him His attitude Hes another with a sense of entitlement Players his age retire with grace not linger like a bad adour in the background He had his time and he blew it by taking it for granted

Instead of getting fit we get this moaning and groaning Horrid attitude and the longer he stays away from the pakistan team the better

You are right.
He would be an upgrade on Rizwan, but what a horrendous attitude!!!
 
I have been keeping an eye on his stats. Despite not liking him , I think he deserves a spot in t20 as a wicket keeper. Currently he's the best hard hitting wicket kerping batsman for t20 in Pakistan and in t20 he has performed well in Australia. Let him play in t20 world cup and let him retire like hafeez.
 
Akmal brothers are true comedians.

One puts on weight after drinking water and another finds fitness to be a "problem."

:))
 
Hopefully Misbah will at least ignore this guy. This guy ruined the career of Kaneria, Shoaib with his endless dropping catches and also played lots of suspicious matches we lost from winning position.
 
the issue is simple. fitness requires discipline and we pakistanis are perhaps the most undisciplined people in the world. that's why statements like this come out.

however, he is right that as the top performer of the PSL he should be in the t20 side. that's purely merit based selection. everyone is playing the same competition, if he's not good then other batsmen should do a better job in the tournament. but to discount his PSL performance is wrong.
 
He said something along the lines of "Ye Mickey Arthur ne aa ke masla daala hai fitness ka" in the context of Misbah and Younis not giving fitness tests in the past. Apparently, yoyo tests are taking Pakistan cricket down.
Just goes to show how unprofessional this guy is. And there have been calls to select this sorry excuse for a cricketer for the national team. At a time when cricketers are moving towards honing themselves through peak conditioning, this is the kind of rubbish you hear from a fat and unfit domestic cricketer.

No wonder none of our coaches take domestic cricket seriously.
 
I must applaud Akmal Sr for his knowledge of Indian domestic circuit. That Samson reference was on point.

But he is not good enough to tie the shoe lace of Samson. The worst wicket keeper in the history of cricket and hit and miss batsman.
 
Problem of fitness test!

Akmal must be living in 20th century (when fitness wasn't a big deal).
 
Your posts are seriously getting redundant where you go on a rant and don’t have anything of value. Sharjeel is an example under Mickey that played despite having poor fitness. Shadab plays because there really is no alternative right arm spinner who can bat a bit. Unless you think Bilal Asif should get a go.

So your point is that fitness is used as a pretext to drop unwanted players? Umar Akmal is sent home because he is not fit, but Sarfraz holds onto the captaincy for two years in spite of being unfit.

Besides, this whole “only leg spinner” thing seems to be an excuse to keep Shadab in the team. There are better spinners than him in domestic cricket. Right arm or left arm, leg spin or finger spin. It doesn’t matter. What matters is how good they are at what they do.

Zafar Gohar is 10 times the bowler Shadab is, and it doesn’t matter if we already have a SLA. Having two of the same is not a problem provided that they are good at what they do. Imad is efficient at his job of containing runs and Zafar Gohar is a genuine spinner.

It is good to have variety but you should not compromise quality for the sake of variety.
 
The Akmals irritate me to no end. Who in their mind allowed Kamran to be an analyst?
And what does he mean 'problem'?
Fit atheletes are a requirement worldwide.
 
Akmals had their time and he is talking about scoring heavy in domestic any player who have played international cricket will find domestic cricket really easy so no doubt they will score heavy there.

But he has been given enough chances at international where he failed miserably.

So no thank you please carry on playing league cricket and make enough money
 
I replied to you in the other thread but you just ignored me. Because no one who supports Kami can ever justify it. How many games has he changed in his career?

Several high profile games. I'm sure you can do the research on your own too, rather than relying on me.

Several great knocks vs IND - especially in Tests.

Abu Dhabi innings where he hit 3 consecutive sixes in the last over vs WI to take us home.

He has 11 hundreds and 22 half centuries across formats. All were high-impact.

On current form, he offers much more to us in World T20 than Mushfiq offers to BD. We have to choose our players wisely, because we have no alternatives.

You still haven't given us any in-form alternative as an opener, who can take on the pacers.
 
I would love to see a reality show that follows the daily lives of the Akmal brothers. Would be total guilty pleasure!

These guys were made for reality TV

haha that would be hilarious, 3 Akmal brothers in their own reality show. Make it happen!
 
So your point is that fitness is used as a pretext to drop unwanted players? Umar Akmal is sent home because he is not fit, but Sarfraz holds onto the captaincy for two years in spite of being unfit.

Besides, this whole “only leg spinner” thing seems to be an excuse to keep Shadab in the team. There are better spinners than him in domestic cricket. Right arm or left arm, leg spin or finger spin. It doesn’t matter. What matters is how good they are at what they do.

Zafar Gohar is 10 times the bowler Shadab is, and it doesn’t matter if we already have a SLA. Having two of the same is not a problem provided that they are good at what they do. Imad is efficient at his job of containing runs and Zafar Gohar is a genuine spinner.

It is good to have variety but you should not compromise quality for the sake of variety.

Could not continue reading after you brought up Umar Akmal. The dude is a certified failure over 10+ years. Please don’t dilute the quality your posts once had for the sake of argument.
 
Some players just can't let go can they.

These guys have had ample chances.....move on.
 
Some players just can't let go can they.

These guys have had ample chances.....move on.

The real question is, literally 15 years on, why on earth is Kamran Akmal still one of our top domestic performers? In the last 15 years we should have had tons of new talent, many of whom should have far exceeded the performances of the ageing Akmal. Yet look at the domestic scorecards, the PSL etc and the reality is Akmal's name is always near the top. Yes you have to give him credit for sticking around and performing. But somewhere along the line our domestic structure has seriously failed.

Yes Abid Ali is a great prospect. But he's one man only. Fakhar set the world alight for a while, but as with so many Pakistani players, his performances have taken a downhill trajectory.

What is wrong with our system that in 2020 the selection of Kamran Akmal does not sound completely bonkers, and in fact almost sounds like it's worth a shot?
 
Could not continue reading after you brought up Umar Akmal. The dude is a certified failure over 10+ years. Please don’t dilute the quality your posts once had for the sake of argument.

Maybe you should have because I am not advocating that he should be in the team.

I was going by what you said, because what I inferred from your post was that fitness is seemingly a pretext to drop an unwanted player.

Mickey (rightfully) didn’t want Umar in the side, so he quickly got rid of him on fitness grounds. However, because Sarfraz was his captain, he was able to keep his place even though his fitness is no better than Umar’s.

Fit or not, neither Umar nor Sarfraz should be anywhere near the team in any format.
 
kami is partially right, selecting talentless hacks just cuz they dive well is utter stupidity, on the other hand capable players with poor fitness are a liability as well. Kami is clearly bitter and thinks too highly of himself but he isn't completely wrong here.
 
I must applaud Akmal Sr for his knowledge of Indian domestic circuit. That Samson reference was on point.
Was it? Samson being a great ipl player is a myth. He has played ipl for 7 seasons now and in all of which he has played atleast 10 games if not all 14. He's never broken into top 10 of the run getters in any of the seasons, he's averaged above 30 only twice in those 7 seasons and his Strike rate hasn't crossed 150 in any season. In comparison pant having played 4 ipl seasons has only averaged below 30 2 of the 4 times and his SR was below 160 only in 1 of the 4 seasons.
 
Was it? Samson being a great ipl player is a myth. He has played ipl for 7 seasons now and in all of which he has played atleast 10 games if not all 14. He's never broken into top 10 of the run getters in any of the seasons, he's averaged above 30 only twice in those 7 seasons and his Strike rate hasn't crossed 150 in any season. In comparison pant having played 4 ipl seasons has only averaged below 30 2 of the 4 times and his SR was below 160 only in 1 of the 4 seasons.

You are right. Samson is averages across all domestic tournaments. Akmal Sr's knowledge of the same had me impressed.

Pant was and is being rightfully given first dibs on WK spot. His bumbling wk-ing and subpar batting temperament in LOIs is still being tolerated due to his excellent domestic record.
 
I watched the discussion Firstly i have no idea why he gets called to panels like this Hes not a good speaker or of intellect Salman Butt was also on there so it shows you the quality of the panel

Anyway some of his points dont translate well in written form What he was saying was essentially that fitness shouldnt be the sole point of selection or de selection And that the quality of the batsman bowler should take precedence over whether he can pass a fitness test or not

He gave the example of anwar, yousuf and inzy being lousy in fitness and fielding but you wouldnt drop them based on lack of fitness And that match fitness is more important so someone should be able to bowl 25 overs a day or score 150 runs a day rather than pass a yoyo and that arthur used this fitness point for his own personal likes and dislikes

It was a bit of a personal rant based on his lack of fitness and fielding but What kami fails to realise is that this isnt the 90 anymore Time has moved on but pakistan hasnt and everyone should be striving to be the best they can be Even if they can improve the teams overall performance by even 10% through fitness then of course it should be mandatory

Yes not everyone can be of a kohli standard but the bare minimum should be achievable If you dont put standards in place how can pakistan compete with the other nations, how does anyone know what is a good or bad level and how can a player strive to improve himself?

Yes Selection shouldnt solely be on a high fitness level thats a given but when you dont have superstars when the margins in selections are small it does help seperate those that have a good mentality and the desire and will to work hard and better themselves and those that dont like akmal
 
Misbah will bring him back to the squad only to get back at Mickey as he opposed his selection.

His 75 fans have already been lobbying for Kamran Akmal's selection on PP and other social media. They want to bring him back just to get back at Mickey.
 
If you actually read what he's saying then you'll realize he's making sense.

To some extent yes. However, folks lose their minds as soon as they hear the term Akmal.

Why? Because he did really poor in the Sydney Test. Yes, let's abuse him forever.

And, it doesn't matter if he's our best opener in the recent flagship domestic tournaments.

The tournament which was reformed recently so that best performers can be selected for the national team. But, people will still abuse and discard him. But that's the general public who thinks with emotions rather than cricketing sense, so I don't blame them.
 
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