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JD Vance called ‘hypocrite’ for comments on wife’s Hindu faith

Vance is done. I feel he is really not a religious guy, but got dragged into it due to MAGA fanbase. He can never disassociate himself from MAGA ever again. He will be constantly questioned about his faith and his wife being a Hindu. To appeal to the hardcore MAGA he has to do sweet talk and carefully word his speech wherever he goes.
 


Can you really take these chumps seriously…? This is around 2016-17… Trump has been the same Trump he had been even back then, so it’s not like we’re talking about some magical transformation on his part that turned his haters into his fans.

Snake oil salesmen all of them.

Confused about everything, let alone which faith to introduce his kids to
 
The half children will always have an issue , Nalin Haley has attacked Vivek too probably coz he was better than his mother but still.

Of all the conservative Indian politicians, Vivek is the only one I can agree with but he won’t survive this decade.
 


Can you really take these chumps seriously…? This is around 2016-17… Trump has been the same Trump he had been even back then, so it’s not like we’re talking about some magical transformation on his part that turned his haters into his fans.

Snake oil salesmen all of them.

Confused about everything, let alone which faith to introduce his kids to
The will be Christians, Dharmic folks can try their best but even in India or abroad , the children mostly convert to Abrahamic faith, could be due to politics or whichever.

Some Sikhs have made their mixed children follow Sikhism but right now they are a very small minority.

Exceptions like Nepal, Thailand will be there Indians aren’t an exception, in my circle back home in South India many converted to Christianity, many had one parent following Christianity.
 
The will be Christians, Dharmic folks can try their best but even in India or abroad , the children mostly convert to Abrahamic faith, could be due to politics or whichever.

Some Sikhs have made their mixed children follow Sikhism but right now they are a very small minority.

Exceptions like Nepal, Thailand will be there Indians aren’t an exception, in my circle back home in South India many converted to Christianity, many had one parent following Christianity.


I don't know what it is like in America, but Hindus were pretty easy going about adopting foreign culture in the UK, and that included Christian values. But with the rise of hindutva and Modi idolised by so many Indians I would imagine they might be more assertive about their religion in future.
 
I don't know what it is like in America, but Hindus were pretty easy going about adopting foreign culture in the UK, and that included Christian values. But with the rise of hindutva and Modi idolised by so many Indians I would imagine they might be more assertive about their religion in future.
It doesn’t matter because those Hindus except a few Gujjus are rarely the corporate going majority, you can see the amount of Hindus celebrating Halloween in India or even Christmas(tree) is very high..

Hindutva can try but they will at best be able to target UP Bihar Gujarat and they can’t influence Hindu population in other states culturally.

I don’t know if it’s a good thing or not, because right wing of every religion calls such practices as forbidden, Indonesian Muslims are also doing that but the country is still progressing, same with Malay Muslims they both are pretty right wing but economic progress is there.. due to which they can influence other Muslims in their country, in India the famous Hindus are mostly South Indians that don’t care about these things or celebs who are equally secular or dislike Dharmic faiths
 
I don't know what it is like in America, but Hindus were pretty easy going about adopting foreign culture in the UK, and that included Christian values. But with the rise of hindutva and Modi idolised by so many Indians I would imagine they might be more assertive about their religion in future.
Just scroll up and you’ll see Hindus and Hindu Atheists saying how adaptable and flexible Hinduism is that it can become anything they want and worship whatever and whoever they want.

doesn’t make sense for them to be assertive when they can customize their faith to fit whatever environment they’re in including just leaving their faith altogether. Remember, not too long ago, Trump was taken as an idol by certain Hindus as well, but now after recent events they went back on it.
 

UK vs USA – The “Indian” Issue​


These are my personal observations based on years of following White Supremacy and Working Class "White Culture" and cultural trends in both the UK and the US.​
  • Among working-class White communities in both countries, there tends to be limited genuine acceptance or admiration for Indians, particularly Hindus, though the sentiment often extends more broadly.​
  • In the post-9/11 and anti-Muslim political climate, some Hindutva-aligned or nationalist Indians have attempted to align with right-wing White movements, especially in the US. However, these efforts are frequently rejected quite harshly; I’ve seen this dynamic repeated many times in online spaces.​
  • In the MAGA movement, there appears to be little acceptance of Indians in general. Relationships between Indians and White partners (in either spousal direction) often attract disproportionate criticism from within that base.​
  • Due to demographic shifts and more diverse representation, Indian and Pakistani politicians have found greater traction in the UK than in the US, where similar success stories remain rare and tend to depend on specific regional demographics.​
  • Interestingly, some MAGA or conservative Christian values overlap with certain Islamic social teachings. In parts of the American South, there’s a quiet recognition of these parallels. Prominent right-wing figures, Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, and others, occasionally touch on this alignment as broader distrust of mainstream narratives grows.​

In contrast, within African-American culture in the US, Islam already holds an established presence, whereas Hinduism or Indian cultural influence remains minimal.

Overall, Hinduism doesn’t seem to intersect meaningfully with Christian-based (either White or Black) cultural frameworks, and many younger people in these groups appear to be turning back toward faith-based identities rather than secular or imported philosophies.

The “convert” or “revert” culture in both the US and UK has become so widespread and normalized that it barely draws attention anymore. It’s entirely common to see people from all backgrounds, whether white with blonde hair and blue eyes, Latino, or African American — embracing Islam. Conversions are now a regular occurrence, often happening weekly or even daily in mosques across both countries.

If you don’t live in the American South, it’s hard to understand how deeply Islam is spreading there and how it’s quietly finding acceptance among everyday MAGA supporters (from a values perspective). Relying on mainstream media or the usual anti-Islam blogs gives a completely misleading picture of what’s actually happening on the ground.

@aboveandbeyond you should visit the deep South and see what Islam is doing here...When you have Mosque"s" in rural Virigian and West Virginia with dozens of White Reverts (men and women) miles from "Jews will not replace us" then you know something substantial is happening!

I got chewed out by a White Southern Revert Sister few days ago about reliance upon Allah Ta'ala, Masha'Allah. :LOL:

Liberals & Secular Muslims and others (included) have no idea what is happening...
 
Vance is done. I feel he is really not a religious guy, but got dragged into it due to MAGA fanbase. He can never disassociate himself from MAGA ever again. He will be constantly questioned about his faith and his wife being a Hindu. To appeal to the hardcore MAGA he has to do sweet talk and carefully word his speech wherever he goes.
And MAGA were hoping for Vance 2028.
 
And MAGA were hoping for Vance 2028.
@Champ_Pal and @JaDed are right in much of their assessment.

Vance is a politician above all so I would not be surprised if Usha Vance will adopt Christianity soon as Vance wouldn't have opened this line of discussion if something wasn't already in the pipeline.

Hinduism has no set dogma or belief so makes no difference to a Hindu whatever or however they worship.
 
World leaders must realize that its not the decoupling from China that’s required but they have to prepare to decouple from the US. Both in terms of trade and dollarization.

Even though the US has witnessed some dumb leaders in the past, they are not close to the current economically suicidal guys like Biden and Trump.

India for its future must diversify from the US in a good way. It’s going to be a difficult to maneuver in the future. US is paranoid in losing its dominance and it will happen by 2050-60. India and China will dominate the future and we need to be prepared for it.

The US has effectively held the global economy hostage. With the AI driven surge pushing American tech valuations to unprecedented heights, and the uncertainties surrounding crypto, we’re heading toward a series of devastating market crashes until several nations are economically wrecked and the global population witnesses a severe erosion in the value of their non-tangible assets.
 
The half children will always have an issue , Nalin Haley has attacked Vivek too probably coz he was better than his mother but still.

Of all the conservative Indian politicians, Vivek is the only one I can agree with but he won’t survive this decade.
Vivek has quickly realized that he will never get anywhere with Trump leading the Republicans. He sucked up to Trump during Trump campaign. But he wisely moved out of DOGE and started concentrating on his home state Ohio for the 2026 Gubernatorial elections.

Until MAGA goes and Republicans get back to their traditional roots, no non-white, non-Christian person can ever survive the coming decade as you pointed out.

Far Left and MAGA have taken the polarization of American public to new heights. They cannot even bare the sight of someone of opposite views. They would prefer violence over amicable adjustment.
 
World leaders must realize that its not the decoupling from China that’s required but they have to prepare to decouple from the US. Both in terms of trade and dollarization.

Even though the US has witnessed some dumb leaders in the past, they are not close to the current economically suicidal guys like Biden and Trump.

India for its future must diversify from the US in a good way. It’s going to be a difficult to maneuver in the future. US is paranoid in losing its dominance and it will happen by 2050-60. India and China will dominate the future and we need to be prepared for it.
India will never dominate the future and never be a superpower simply because of its inability to feed its massive population in the future. India is a mere (bad) economic cycle away from utter and abject poverty. China is a shining example of how to pull populations out of poverty and constantly working on the perennial problem which has plagued geographies with a similar (population) conundrum.

Indians like to compare themselves to Pakistan when they should be comparing themselves to China.

 
Vivek has quickly realized that he will never get anywhere with Trump leading the Republicans. He sucked up to Trump during Trump campaign. But he wisely moved out of DOGE and started concentrating on his home state Ohio for the 2026 Gubernatorial elections.

Until MAGA goes and Republicans get back to their traditional roots, no non-white, non-Christian person can ever survive the coming decade as you pointed out.

Far Left and MAGA have taken the polarization of American public to new heights. They cannot even bare the sight of someone of opposite views. They would prefer violence over amicable adjustment.
The far left is still more inclusive and intellectual than the far right, that is pretty obvious to see.

Far right is so dumb that for years they have opposed Soros and promoted conspiracy theories against him only to be ruled by Bessent who is the biggest Soros Man out there, not to forget openly gay, MAGA are Trump worshippers nothing else… whatever he says floats lol.
 
The far left is still more inclusive and intellectual than the far right, that is pretty obvious to see.

Far right is so dumb that for years they have opposed Soros and promoted conspiracy theories against him only to be ruled by Bessent who is the biggest Soros Man out there, not to forget openly gay, MAGA are Trump worshippers nothing else… whatever he says floats lol.
Have to agree.

Far left rainbow types are fruitcakes for the most part except the Antifa and BLM types. Far right are downright dangerous.
 
Vivek has quickly realized that he will never get anywhere with Trump leading the Republicans. He sucked up to Trump during Trump campaign. But he wisely moved out of DOGE and started concentrating on his home state Ohio for the 2026 Gubernatorial elections.

Until MAGA goes and Republicans get back to their traditional roots, no non-white, non-Christian person can ever survive the coming decade as you pointed out.

Far Left and MAGA have taken the polarization of American public to new heights. They cannot even bare the sight of someone of opposite views. They would prefer violence over amicable adjustment.
Vivek is a pretty good politician. He is more centre right. In the UK we had some decent centr right politicians too but they have been drowned out by those pandering to the racists.

One thing though you keep saying far left. US has never had any mainstream far left politicians...but the crazy right wing get elected time and time again. US is not polarised, it is a basket case right wing country now.
 
I don't know why sanghis are salty about voluntary conversions.

If a Hindu converts to another religion voluntarily, it should be none of their concerns. :inti

They seem to have too much free time.
 
I don't know why sanghis are salty about voluntary conversions.

If a Hindu converts to another religion voluntarily, it should be none of their concerns. :inti

They seem to have too much free time.
Who is salty?

If push comes to shove, Usha Vance will say hail Jesus and Haleluah!! As a Hindu she will not have any issue with accepting Jesus into the Hindu Pantheon. The issue is MAGA will still not accept her. They only prefer White and Christian.
 
India will never dominate the future and never be a superpower simply because of its inability to feed its massive population in the future. India is a mere (bad) economic cycle away from utter and abject poverty. China is a shining example of how to pull populations out of poverty and constantly working on the perennial problem which has plagued geographies with a similar (population) conundrum.

Indians like to compare themselves to Pakistan when they should be comparing themselves to China.

You can pray for all you want but India continues to lift its people from poverty. If you have not seen the numbers, its not anyones fault.

The abject poverty in India is 2.3% in 2022-23 vs 16% in 2011. This is a humongous achievement. And its from World bank data.


I don't understand why Pakistanis are hell bent on destroying themselves as their poverty rate increased. So better worry about your country first.

“Pakistan’s poverty rate has climbed 7% in three years, reaching 25.3% in 2024-25, after a long decline from 64.3% in 2001-02 to 21.9% in 2018-19. The World Bank links the reversal to multiple crises, including the COVID-19 pandemic, rising inflation, severe flooding and economic instability.”


Please enlighten how India is one bad economic cycle away from abject poverty?? India’s strength comes from its own strong domestic market similar to China, which Pakistan is yet to achieve. While I didn't want to ridicule Pakistan, it is people like you that draw unnecessary parallels hoping that something bad will happen to India. Such a sorry state people like you are in!
 
You can pray for all you want but India continues to lift its people from poverty. If you have not seen the numbers, its not anyones fault.

The abject poverty in India is 2.3% in 2022-23 vs 16% in 2011. This is a humongous achievement. And its from World bank data.


I don't understand why Pakistanis are hell bent on destroying themselves as their poverty rate increased. So better worry about your country first.

“Pakistan’s poverty rate has climbed 7% in three years, reaching 25.3% in 2024-25, after a long decline from 64.3% in 2001-02 to 21.9% in 2018-19. The World Bank links the reversal to multiple crises, including the COVID-19 pandemic, rising inflation, severe flooding and economic instability.”


Please enlighten how India is one bad economic cycle away from abject poverty?? India’s strength comes from its own strong domestic market similar to China, which Pakistan is yet to achieve. While I didn't want to ridicule Pakistan, it is people like you that draw unnecessary parallels hoping that something bad will happen to India. Such a sorry state people like you are in!
You don't try to educate the ignorants. You simply avoid them and have a hearty laugh.
 
Who is salty?

If push comes to shove, Usha Vance will say hail Jesus and Haleluah!! As a Hindu she will not have any issue with accepting Jesus into the Hindu Pantheon. The issue is MAGA will still not accept her. They only prefer White and Christian.


That is because they like straight shooters. Personally I believe Usha is already fully converted and if she wanted to practice Hinduism surely she would have married a Hindu man and given her children Hindu names.
 
That is because they like straight shooters. Personally I believe Usha is already fully converted and if she wanted to practice Hinduism surely she would have married a Hindu man and given her children Hindu names.
I don’t think she is converted. If she was, she would have come out in open like Bobby Jindal.
Politics are dirty. Far right is very dangerous and these elements have found a new lease of life and crept into republican support base. 🤡
 
India will never dominate the future and never be a superpower simply because of its inability to feed its massive population in the future. India is a mere (bad) economic cycle away from utter and abject poverty. China is a shining example of how to pull populations out of poverty and constantly working on the perennial problem which has plagued geographies with a similar (population) conundrum.

Indians like to compare themselves to Pakistan when they should be comparing themselves to China.


There is no basis for this comment.

India is already a superpower by population. Soon to be an economic superpower. It’s inevitable. It’s simple math. You’re talking about bad economic cycle when India literally absorbed the last two global market crashes with ease.

China on the other hand is staring at a population collapse and its export based economy is standing on thin ice right now with the West diversifying supply chains at a brisk pace.
 
I don’t think she is converted. If she was, she would have come out in open like Bobby Jindal.
Politics are dirty. Far right is very dangerous and these elements have found a new lease of life and crept into republican support base. 🤡

You might be right now I think on it. Culturally as a Hindu woman her duty would be to obey and serve her husband. Maybe even if he is not a Hindu? :unsure:
 
You might be right now I think on it. Culturally as a Hindu woman her duty would be to obey and serve her husband. Maybe even if he is not a Hindu? :unsure:
Whatever religion they follow, they will bend and twist their beliefs for political gains. JD Vance has put all his eggs in Trump's basket. The smell will never go away.

Personally from what I have read about Vance, he is not a religious guy. He got dragged into it by MAGA fanbase and now he has to do everything to prove his faith. Even if he proves he is Christian, he will always be questioned about his wife's faith. It is the reality.
 

@Cpt. Rishwat I think he really wants a Christian wife. Divorce could be done before Christmas day so he can sing hymns not in Bollywood style.


It would be better for his standing amongst the MAGA crowd for sure, but I think Usha would shoot him and throw herself on his funeral pyre before giving up the hallowed position as his wife to be quite frank on this.
 
It would be better for his standing amongst the MAGA crowd for sure, but I think Usha would shoot him and throw herself on his funeral pyre before giving up the hallowed position as his wife to be quite frank on this.

It seems this is the plan. He will marry Erika Kirk, both will become blue eyed MAGA power couple, winning the Republicans the Presidency after Trump.

Usha will be like a good Indian girl, carry her bags back to Bombay and find a lovely Indian fella to marry @Bhaijaan
 
World leaders must realize that its not the decoupling from China that’s required but they have to prepare to decouple from the US. Both in terms of trade and dollarization.

Even though the US has witnessed some dumb leaders in the past, they are not close to the current economically suicidal guys like Biden and Trump.

India for its future must diversify from the US in a good way. It’s going to be a difficult to maneuver in the future. US is paranoid in losing its dominance and it will happen by 2050-60. India and China will dominate the future and we need to be prepared for it.
China yes ..India hell no...climate change will cook the earth before India has any chance of dominating anything ...we are a importer of complex technology managing pollution population and corruption...there is 0 chance we will be developed country by 2050 or reach levels of present day China and 0 chance of us being capable of innovating in the are of biotechnology semiconductor energy or even software...we are a services and outsourcing hub.
 
It seems this is the plan. He will marry Erika Kirk, both will become blue eyed MAGA power couple, winning the Republicans the Presidency after Trump.

Usha will be like a good Indian girl, carry her bags back to Bombay and find a lovely Indian fella to marry @Bhaijaan


If she wanted to marry an Indian fella I don't think she would be picking JD Vance and bringing her kids up as Christians.
 
They have just become besties with the Taliban. Hinduism is nothing if it is not all embracing. :srini
Our national policy is not based on religion unlike yours. It's based on converting strategic depth to strategic liability. Next step is to arm out allies with Brahmos and anti air defense plus armored vehicles.
 
Yes. My mother is pretty religious and spends most of her time studying some of the texts. But she goes every few months to a Christian shrine in Bengaluru called Infant Jesus. She sees zero contradictions in it. Even Vivekananda sometimes prayed to Mary and Jesus and is probably the greatest modern Hindu leader, fiercely proud of his religion.
Swami Vivekananda actually had beef too and in his school we actually worship to Jesus Mahavir and reference Prophet too
 
It seems this is the plan. He will marry Erika Kirk, both will become blue eyed MAGA power couple, winning the Republicans the Presidency after Trump.

Usha will be like a good Indian girl, carry her bags back to Bombay and find a lovely Indian fella to marry @Bhaijaan

Sister Usha will never be alone. Mother India never forgets her sons and daughters no matter where they are. Blood of Ancient Brahmins is burning strong in her veins.
 
Sister Usha will never be alone. Mother India never forgets her sons and daughters no matter where they are. Blood of Ancient Brahmins is burning strong in her veins.

Good to hear. When she returns to India, get her a new husband.

Vance wants to be President, he wont with a Hindu wife.
 
Good to hear. When she returns to India, get her a new husband.

Vance wants to be President, he wont with a Hindu wife.

She will convert to Christianity if it means keeping her husband, she is not going to give him up for an Indian fella. You and I both know it. Perhaps she can remain a secret Hindu and put it down to acting as a dutiful wife according to Hindu culture.
 
She will convert to Christianity if it means keeping her husband, she is not going to give him up for an Indian fella. You and I both know it. Perhaps she can remain a secret Hindu and put it down to acting as a dutiful wife according to Hindu culture.

We have also both been told , a Hindu can be anything he/she wants to be. A Hindu can also worship Jesus acc to them. Maybe she can relay this to Vance to save her marriage?

I agree she wants to stay with him but Mr Vance has bigger dreams. There are rumours Vance is already in some secret relationship with Erika
 
We have also both been told , a Hindu can be anything he/she wants to be. A Hindu can also worship Jesus acc to them. Maybe she can relay this to Vance to save her marriage?

I agree she wants to stay with him but Mr Vance has bigger dreams. There are rumours Vance is already in some secret relationship with Erika

Well if a Hindu can be anything he/she wants to be, she can remain married to Vance as a dutiful Hindu wife regardless of any liaison that Vance might have with Erika. Why would she need to find a Hindu man in that case?

If he leaves her so he can mount a Presidential campaign, she can just move onto the next best Christian MAGA rising star. If none available maybe she can share Priyanka's hubby Nick Jonas.
 
If he leaves her so he can mount a Presidential campaign, she can just move onto the next best Christian MAGA rising star. If none available maybe she can share Priyanka's hubby Nick Jonas.

That's a muslim thing, to share husbands.

I suspect Usha is a lot more self-respecting than that.
 
That's a muslim thing, to share husbands.

I suspect Usha is a lot more self-respecting than that.

The only difference is women have to marry to share a husband in Islam. Non Muslim men just have multiple girlfriends. Or at least the ones which women find attractive do.
 
That's a muslim thing, to share husbands.

I suspect Usha is a lot more self-respecting than that.
She let her husband get his hair caressed and passionately hugged by a widow on live TV in front of millions and millions- a gesture which has been criticized by many.

Must be a Christian thing to watch your husband interact with woman like that. :asghar
 
Well if a Hindu can be anything he/she wants to be, she can remain married to Vance as a dutiful Hindu wife regardless of any liaison that Vance might have with Erika. Why would she need to find a Hindu man in that case?

If he leaves her so he can mount a Presidential campaign, she can just move onto the next best Christian MAGA rising star. If none available maybe she can share Priyanka's hubby Nick Jonas.

I doubt the next MAGA rising star will want to touch her after esp being Hindu.

She could try the democratic party men.
 
She let her husband get his hair caressed and passionately hugged by a widow on live TV in front of millions and millions- a gesture which has been criticized by many.

Must be a Christian thing to watch your husband interact with woman like that. :asghar
Sorry, I meant letting your wife go through that. Vance Bhai said he hopes his wife becomes Christian, so I was assuming “best case” scenario.
 
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