Jimmy Anderson becomes the first pacer to get to 300 Test wickets at home

[Leo23]

first bowler to achieve this feat. congratulation but along with cook and broad he has hugely benefited from playing so many matches at home. his record away from home proves that he is little more than an average bowler and nowhere the league of wasim, donald, ambrose, mcgrath, steyn, asif, amir etc.

where would you rank him? for me he is not even among the top 50 bowlers in history.

 

[Varun]

Average in England: 25.62 from 71 tests

Australia: 38.44 (13)
India: 33.46 (10)
South Africa: 39.92 (8)
West Indies: 24.92 (7)
UAE: 20.54 (6)
New Zealand: 36.27 (5)
Sri Lanka: 40.72 (4)

Guess where the clouds reign supreme?

 

[Proactive_]

Average of 30 in Asia in the most batting friendly era in history. Always been a stalwart at home. One of the ATGs for me.

 

[Leo23]

what about his average at home vs pak last year and in ind in the winters? )

 

[Leo23]

cook
anderson
broad
bell

have not seen so many average players with brilliant stats. if you are an average player but want to have great numbers plz qualify to play for eng.

 

[shaz619]

Average in England: 25.62 from 71 tests

Australia: 38.44 (13)
India: 33.46 (10)
South Africa: 39.92 (8)
West Indies: 24.92 (7)
UAE: 20.54 (6)
New Zealand: 36.27 (5)
Sri Lanka: 40.72 (4)

Guess where the clouds reign supreme?

The UAE , WI , IND ?

 

[Arham_PakFan]

Average in England: 25.62 from 71 tests

Australia: 38.44 (13)
India: 33.46 (10)
South Africa: 39.92 (8)
West Indies: 24.92 (7)
UAE: 20.54 (6)
New Zealand: 36.27 (5)
Sri Lanka: 40.72 (4)

Guess where the clouds reign supreme?

An average of around 40 in 3 countries over a sizeable number of tests...

 

[Varun]

The UAE , WI , IND ?

The UAE it is! Ring the bell.

In all fairness, those figures in the UAE were great against Younis / Misbah on wickets that were tailor made for spin, not pace.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Average in England: 25.62 from 71 tests

Australia: 38.44 (13)
India: 33.46 (10)
South Africa: 39.92 (8)
West Indies: 24.92 (7)
UAE: 20.54 (6)
New Zealand: 36.27 (5)
Sri Lanka: 40.72 (4)

Guess where the clouds reign supreme?

It's not even the clouds because you get those conditions in SA. He's a Dukes ball bully and is ordinary with the kookaburra in his hand. Basically needs everything to be right for him to be effective.

 

[thehub]

The UAE , WI , IND ?

His ave is 33+ in ind. Not sure why you added India to that list. wanted to show more countries or what? Windies and Pak are two of poor batting lineups, especially against fast bowling. No surprise there.

 

[thehub]

English media will call this as big achievement. Wait for ashwin to take 300 wickets at home. We will hear diff tune from same folks.

 

[shaz619]

The UAE it is! Ring the bell.

In all fairness, those figures in the UAE were great against Younis / Misbah on wickets that were tailor made for spin, not pace.

He surely is a god under the clouds but I think that people can go a bit OTT with regards to his alleged prowess in bowler friendly conditions alone, also in the first phase of his career he was in and out of the side, injuries and various technical issues; he'd really find his feet beyond the 08 period and was a different bowler altogether from what I had first seen when he made his debut

Anyhow you still need to be skilled to take all those wickets at home so fair play for his longevity and ability to get the ball moving both ways, yeah it's a bowlers graveyard; in their first series Broad and Anderson were exceptional in the UAE.

Definitely an England ATG and borderline ATG, with a big series in Australia maybe he can put some of the ? against him to rest but it will be tough given his style.

 

[Varun]

Definitely an England ATG and borderline ATG, with a big series in Australia maybe he can put some of the ? against him to rest but it will be tough given his style.

He has already had a big series in Australia in 2010. Still averages 38.

Doesn't hold a candle to the likes of Steyn or McGrath.

 

[Bilal7]

Not even close to being an ATG or even a great bowler. He's a level lower and the batting equivalent would be a VVS Laxman or Saeed Anwar.

However, he's been amazing in England and few bowlers have exploited the English conditions as well as Anderson has.

 

[shaz619]

He has already had a big series in Australia in 2010. Still averages 38.

Doesn't hold a candle to the likes of Steyn or McGrath.

Needs to bring that down

 

[ads101]

Not even close to being an ATG or even a great bowler. He's a level lower and the batting equivalent would be a VVS Laxman or Saeed Anwar.

However, he's been amazing in England and few bowlers have exploited the English conditions as well as Anderson has.

Not be rude to Jimmy but I'd hardly rate him on the level of Anwar or Laxman. He's a level lower than that. I'd rate him same level as Brett Lee.

 

[aloo paratha]

How do people expect a swing bowler to get wickets where it won't swing? People wouldn't be fussed if a spinner had these numbers.

 

[Bilal7]

How do people expect a swing bowler to get wickets where it won't swing? People wouldn't be fussed if a spinner had these numbers.

See Anil Kumble.

 

[Leo23]

It's not even the clouds because you get those conditions in SA. He's a Dukes ball bully and is ordinary with the kookaburra in his hand. Basically needs everything to be right for him to be effective.

was brilliant in aus in 2011 due to clouds. on every other tour of aus he has been a flop. it is the clouds not the ball.

 

[idrizzy]

Not be rude to Jimmy but I'd hardly rate him on the level of Anwar or Laxman. He's a level lower than that. I'd rate him same level as Brett Lee.

Sounds about right. Not a bowler you'll recall to any XI, but a good bowler nonetheless.

 

[Hasan123]

Brilliant test bowler. He's a treat to watch in his comfort zone. Don't rate him as an ATG but a quality test bowler nonetheless.

 

[Ozymandiasza]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Is <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/jimmyanderson?src=hash">#jimmyanderson</a> saying he can only bowl in English conditions? <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/kohli?src=hash">#kohli</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IndvsEng?src=hash">#IndvsEng</a></p>— Graeme Smith (@GraemeSmith49) <a href="https://twitter.com/GraemeSmith49/status/808200869569241088">12 December 2016</a></blockquote>
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Biff said as much.

 

[Sarwar89]

Virat Kohli is Bunny of Jimmy Anderson, Jimmy has got Virat out so many times, lets hope he adds this more to his tally next year in 5 Match test series in England. Steyn got Hafeez 15 times i think, Jimmy needs to get Kohli out 3-4 times more to be closer to Steyn-Hafeez, Mcgrath-Lara records.

 

[Leo23]

Virat Kohli is Bunny of Jimmy Anderson, Jimmy has got Virat out so many times, lets hope he adds this more to his tally next year in 5 Match test series in England. Steyn got Hafeez 15 times i think, Jimmy needs to get Kohli out 3-4 times more to be closer to Steyn-Hafeez, Mcgrath-Lara records.

nonsense. anderson got dominated by kohli in india few months back. kohli is ten times the cricketer anderson is.

 

[Sarwar89]

nonsense. anderson got dominated by kohli in india few months back. kohli is ten times the cricketer anderson is.

Nonsense, Watch out 2014 India tour of England. Kohli is flat track home bully, in England he fails and fails.

 

[Leo23]

Nonsense, Watch out 2014 India tour of England. Kohli is flat track home bully, in England he fails and fails.

so what is anderson? who fails and fails in ind and other countries when conditions don't suit him?

as a pak fan i have no shame in accepting that kohli is the best batsman in the world and a true legend in the making. cricketers like anderson are not fit to clean his shoes.

 

[Sarwar89]

so what is anderson? who fails and fails in ind and other countries when conditions don't suit him?

as a pak fan i have no shame in accepting that kohli is the best batsman in the world and a true legend in the making. cricketers like anderson are not fit to clean his shoes.

So what is Kohli. A Kohli who failed in World Cup final 2011, Failed in 2017 ICC Champions Trophy Final, Failed in 2015 World Cup Semi Final, Failed in 2013 icc champions trophy final, could not get his team over the line in 2014 tour of England, his Test average is below Younis Khan and that is after playing 13 Test matches at home ladt season. You are an Indian and just trying to cover up his failed facts. Jimmy Anderson has near 500 Test wickets and it is far more than your below average fast bowlers. Cheers.

 

[Leo23]

So what is Kohli. A Kohli who failed in World Cup final 2011, Failed in 2017 ICC Champions Trophy Final, Failed in 2015 World Cup Semi Final, Failed in 2013 icc champions trophy final, could not get his team over the line in 2014 tour of England, his Test average is below Younis Khan and that is after playing 13 Test matches at home ladt season. You are an Indian and just trying to cover up his failed facts. Jimmy Anderson has near 500 Test wickets and it is far more than your below average fast bowlers. Cheers.

no i am a pakistani based in usa. i am sorry to see how narrow minded you are for calling me indian just because i consider kohli best in the world. what is kohli ?? the man who is yet to enter his peak but is the third highest century maker in odis and the only batsman ever to average 50 in all formats.

anderson is better than any ind fast bowler ever but it doesn't mean anything because ind have no legacy in fast bowling. anderson wont even get into the pak team outside eng.

 

[ExpressPacer]

I love watching him bowl when he's in good form and the conditions suit him. It's like poetry in motion.

That being said however, he's not an ATG. Needs to prove his prowess consistently in foreign tours.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Not even among the top 30 test bowlers of all time.

 

[CricFan2012]

In all fairness, those figures in the UAE were great against Younis / Misbah on wickets that were tailor made for spin, not pace.

Younis and Misbah were poor players of pace, most pacers had an economy below 3 when these two batsmen batted for a while. While spinners would go for 3-4.

Not a good metric to judge Andersons bowling with.

 

[kaifmazhar]

Not a record he would like to display before everyone. This only enhances his reputation as a home track bully.

 

[Zaz]

Jimmys an excellent home conditions bowler who has benefited immensely from

a) the no of home tests england have played in recent years
b) by being managed effectively prolonging his test career

304 at 25 in 71 tests
149 at 35 in 47 tests tells a story

Yes hes not gonna be a true world great like an marshall, ambrose, mcgrath or steyn and he is limited under different conditions but hes someone whos maxmised the most of his talent he had and someone along with cook benefited the most under the current english system

An excellent dependable swing bowler is the way id describe him

 

[Robert]

Average in England: 25.62 from 71 tests

Australia: 38.44 (13)
India: 33.46 (10)
South Africa: 39.92 (8)
West Indies: 24.92 (7)
UAE: 20.54 (6)
New Zealand: 36.27 (5)
Sri Lanka: 40.72 (4)

Guess where the clouds reign supreme?

In NZ for a start, so your analysis falls down.

Cloud has nothing to do with whether or not it swings. I've seen everyone bowl gunbarrel straight under total overcast. What orthodox swing bowlers need is warm moist air.

Since 2011, about the time coaches stopped tinkering with his action and he learned to reverse the ball from Asif, Anderson averages 28 away. He has done very well in UAE and you won't find clouds there.

 

[Last Monetarist]

Anderson gets unnecessary hate on this forum, which contributes to a criminal disregard for his ability to swing the cricket ball. He is easily the most skillful swing bowler of his generation and it's an art to be appreciated as much as reverse swing and wrist spin. He may not be as good or effective as Steyn, which seems to be his biggest crime around these parts, but he's still contributed a great deal to the sport and inspired people to take up fast bowling. His detractors should probably take some time to look closely at his wrist position when he is on song and the subtle differences in seam direction that allow him to swing the ball in both directions at will. That ability is unquestionably rare, I doubt England would be able to replace him when he retires.

 

[James]

cook
anderson
broad
bell

have not seen so many average players with brilliant stats. if you are an average player but want to have great numbers plz qualify to play for eng.

Come on man, say what you will about the other 3, but Cook is a great player.

 

[Hawkeye]

Been extremely good on lifeless UAE tracks. And flat pitches in general too in the later half of his career.

Excellent bowler and one of the best to watch too. Has a better skillset than many .

 

[idrizzy]

Come on man, say what you will about the other 3, but Cook is a great player.

Cook is an ATG, no doubt about that.

 

[aloo paratha]

Home track bully or not, nobody can swing the ball like him.

 

[Justcrazy]

He is a good bowler at best , at third tier in all time list.

 

[Leo23]

Come on man, say what you will about the other 3, but Cook is a great player.

fails against good pace 90% of the time. extremely good against poor bowling for sure.

 

[Leo23]

Cook is an ATG, no doubt about that.

if he is atg what are tendulkar kallis lara ponting ??

 

[Abdullah719]

Very good bowler in England.