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This movie is a standalone movie,showing the origins of the Batman villain,the Joker. This movie is set outside the continuity of the DC universe films, which has a different Joker portrayed by Jared Leto. In DC Comics terms,this origin movie is an Elseworlds film.

Joaquin Phoenix will be playing the Joker.

The director shared a teaser yesterday.
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Looking forward to it. I don’t mind this incarnation of the Joker. This might not even be the final look.
 
Is this movie based on Alan Moore and Brian Bolland's classic "The Killing Joke" widely considered the best Joker Origin Story.

The teaser looks very interesting, nothing like the over-the-top stylized DC version we have become so accustomed to seeing. Joker is by far the best character in the Batman series, at times more fascinating than the Batman himself. Joaquin Phoenix is probably the best character actor working nowadays. He is especially good in playing dark and psychologically messed up characters like in The Master. This could be very interesting.
 
Looking forward to it. I don’t mind this incarnation of the Joker. This might not even be the final look.

Yes, the one in the video is not the final look.

Keep in mind this story is about the character Arthur on the way to becoming the Joker

Another set photo was leaked yesterday

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This movie is a standalone movie,showing the origins of the Batman villain,the Joker. This movie is set outside the continuity of the DC universe films, which has a different Joker portrayed by Jared Leto. In DC Comics terms,this origin movie is an Elseworlds film.

Joaquin Phoenix will be playing the Joker.

The director shared a teaser yesterday.
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The movie may not be a part of the DC universe but they are sure taking inspiration from The Killing Joke, everyone has their opinion on the character with some wanting to maintain the mystique; I understand the Joker should't be overexposed because it emphasises what a maniacal Machiavellian he is when you're not so sure about his motives.

The origin story ought to develop a little sympathy for him but am all for this so long they produce a high calibre movie, there is certainly potential for that, this adaptation will be a lot more grounded and gritty. I believe Scorsese is involved and he wanted Dicaprio to assume the role but he declined, Phoneix is not a bad choice at all and am sure he will do a great job, the Joker character is not easy to play but can be rewarding to if the execution is bang on.
 
in the comics it is still not known that who joker really was , his parents or anything. are they going to change that in this movie ?
 
Probably one of the best castings, I'm sure he'll deliver.

Excited for this and Venom. They look to have the right amount of grit and yet still free flowing and not too rigid in plot like the DC crap.
 
If anyone can pull out a decent Joker, it's Joaquin Phoenix (esp. if you watch some scenes in "The Master", IMO the most talented actor since DD Lewis retired.)
 
Ledger has set the bar quite high for The Joker, but if anyone could match or even surpass him it's Phoenix. Good to see that they're keeping it simple and not going full ****** like Leto did.
 
Ledger has set the bar quite high for The Joker, but if anyone could match or even surpass him it's Phoenix. Good to see that they're keeping it simple and not going full ****** like Leto did.

Leto is still going to be the Joker in other DC movies :facepalm:

I think if Phoenix's casting works, they could incorporate him in other DC movies,replacing Leto.
 
in the comics it is still not known that who joker really was , his parents or anything. are they going to change that in this movie ?

This is an elseworlds film, kind of like Superman : Red Son or Gotham by Gaslight from the comics. So it won't rely on mainstream comics or anything. According to rumors it is set in the 80's and is a low budget crime drama. A character study on a man who turns to crime.

The character who turns into the Joker in this film is named Arthur.
 
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This actor is top quality. Thank God they have not gone with Jarred Leto!

Hopefully we see Christian Bale in this movie at some point also, him and nolan need to return with another blockbuster!
 
This actor is top quality. Thank God they have not gone with Jarred Leto!

Hopefully we see Christian Bale in this movie at some point also, him and nolan need to return with another blockbuster!

Jared Leto is a top class Method actor. Blame the pathetic scripts and direction which have become characteristic of DC whenever they associate with warner bros.

However this will be a good movie i am pretty sure of it because its looks less of a commercial film which means it will be a work of art.
 
Ledger has set the bar quite high for The Joker, but if anyone could match or even surpass him it's Phoenix. Good to see that they're keeping it simple and not going full ****** like Leto did.

This is my take as well, I didn't like the idea of anyone doing the part post Ledger's death, but Phoenix is probably one of those weird actors who could pull it off. Even as a kid in Parenthood he was a show stealer, and of course his iconic role in Gladiator.
 
This is my take as well, I didn't like the idea of anyone doing the part post Ledger's death, but Phoenix is probably one of those weird actors who could pull it off. Even as a kid in Parenthood he was a show stealer, and of course his iconic role in Gladiator.

His sad and troublesome past certainly makes him the perfect candidate for such roles. I remember during an presser when he was asked about how he prepared for role his in role in The Master. he snapped back saying "What do you mean by acting? I play myself in this movie and every movie", then lit a cigarette and just walked off the stage.
 
His sad and troublesome past certainly makes him the perfect candidate for such roles. I remember during an presser when he was asked about how he prepared for role his in role in The Master. he snapped back saying "What do you mean by acting? I play myself in this movie and every movie", then lit a cigarette and just walked off the stage.

With any other actor you would think he was just being precious, but with him you can see it's true. :91:
 
Looking forward to this, really liking the look of the new joker! The hair and style remind me of the great heath ledger.
 
Jared Leto is a top class Method actor. Blame the pathetic scripts and direction which have become characteristic of DC whenever they associate with warner bros.

However this will be a good movie i am pretty sure of it because its looks less of a commercial film which means it will be a work of art.

To be honest we've not even seen much of Leto but from what I have seen he hasn't been terrible at all, perhaps people have more of an issue with the incarnation but even then he has barely had much screen time. Also, people always bring up Ledger's magnificent performance and it was great but so was Nicholson and my favourite Mark Hamil; each version was distinct and great in their own way, there is no reason why one can not reinvent the persona or present a different take.
 
This is an elseworlds film, kind of like Superman : Red Son or Gotham by Gaslight from the comics. So it won't rely on mainstream comics or anything. According to rumors it is set in the 80's and is a low budget crime drama. A character study on a man who turns to crime.

The character who turns into the Joker in this film is named Arthur.

They are building it up as an elseworld film / original story to distance from the DC Universe due to how protected the Joker Character is for various reasons but there are some similarities with the killing joke although this isn't a direct adaptation
 
To be honest we've not even seen much of Leto but from what I have seen he hasn't been terrible at all, perhaps people have more of an issue with the incarnation but even then he has barely had much screen time. Also, people always bring up Ledger's magnificent performance and it was great but so was Nicholson and my favourite Mark Hamil; each version was distinct and great in their own way, there is no reason why one can not reinvent the persona or present a different take.

I agree with both your opinions (on Leto and the fact that others can reinvent the character)

Leto is a great actor, but I feel his look was messed up,with the face tattoos etc. That may have put people off his performance. He was given only a few minutes in the movie and hopefully he shines in upcoming movies.
 
It's good but it's not even the final one. This is the first phase of the joker transformation. He's just toying with the idea, hasn't become one with the persona yet.

Anyone remember Heath Ledger's test portrait? The final look was quite a bit different.
 
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The casting for Bruce Wayne is a 7 year old kid. Which is weird since there will be a massive age difference. I know this is an Elseworld movie, but still.
 
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The casting for Bruce Wayne is a 7 year old kid. Which is weird since there will be a massive age difference. I know this is an Elseworld movie, but still.

Every reincarnation of the Joker has a different timeline, different backstory and so different age difference with the Batman.

Very recently it had even been revealed that the Joker was an immortal entity.

But I mean they have to make Batman a non factor in this film, else if he was old enough the question would be why doesn't he stop him.
 
Some origin story should never be revealed...

I was actually sad that the show "Daredevil" revealed the origin story for "Bulls eye" and now they are making a origin story for "Jocker"
 
I think this is a real movie.

Not just a usual stupid money maker. But a real movie. Its on my watch list.
 
I think this is a real movie.

Not just a usual stupid money maker. But a real movie. Its on my watch list.

I like how they made him relatable at first. Someone who tried to see the good in the world, but the world drove him away.

Some renditions of the Joker have him simply as a purely evil and at times immortal entity.
 
That was a heck of a trailer.. this looks really promising indeed
 
To be honest we've not even seen much of Leto but from what I have seen he hasn't been terrible at all, perhaps people have more of an issue with the incarnation but even then he has barely had much screen time. Also, people always bring up Ledger's magnificent performance and it was great but so was Nicholson and my favourite Mark Hamil; each version was distinct and great in their own way, there is no reason why one can not reinvent the persona or present a different take.

Concur.
 
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I saw the trailer. It looked alright.

I am looking forward to watching it.

Looked alright? It was one of the best trailer imho.. I’ m sad that the movie won’t live upto the expectations because of the trailer and Phoenix, [MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION]
 
Looked alright? It was one of the best trailer imho.. I’ m sad that the movie won’t live upto the expectations because of the trailer and Phoenix, [MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION]

I don't want to hype it up. I want to see the whole movie and then judge.

Based on what I saw in that trailer, I think it would be a good movie.
 
Looked alright? It was one of the best trailer imho.. I’ m sad that the movie won’t live upto the expectations because of the trailer and Phoenix, [MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION]

This will be a decent outing imo, better then the stuff you usually see in the genre and more grounded / gritty which means more potential for a decent narrative
 
cant wait for this, loved phoenix in "her", and i'm guessing this will be a similar film about social disconnection. as long as they remain true to the idea of the joker and don't try to over justify his outlook and character i think it'll be great.
 
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I’ll believe it when I see it.

Venom was gonna be R Rated too then the producers chickened our last minute and made it PG.
 
I’ll believe it when I see it.

Venom was gonna be R Rated too then the producers chickened our last minute and made it PG.

Regardless I think the team behind this movie will not be limited by the rating tbh
 
Regardless I think the team behind this movie will not be limited by the rating tbh

Yeah, rating aside I’m hyped and anxious that they do the Joker justice after Heath, none of that Suicide Squad “damaged” nonsense.
 
Yeah, rating aside I’m hyped and anxious that they do the Joker justice after Heath, none of that Suicide Squad “damaged” nonsense.
Dis song is sick tho

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:sarf
 

Looks very promising. Thomas Wayne as the “bad guy” it seems.
 
Dis song is sick tho

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:sarf

Ehh... it’s ok.
 
Regardless I think the team behind this movie will not be limited by the rating tbh

Looking at the trailer, it looks like it's bordering more on thriller/horror genre than superhero. Phoenix looks like a mad old witch when he's not in costume. He actually looks less scary as the Joker.
 
This looks fascinating and genuinely disturbing.

Phoenix perfectly cast - they can now make him look old and embittered enough for the role.

He perfectly captured an ascent into violent solipsistic megalomania with Commodus, so given his now greater experience and the mythology of the Joker character then I’m sure this will be even better.
 
It’s getting great reviews overall but these are mostly places like ign who I don’t care about. The roger ebert website gave it a 2/4. So I’ll just have to watch it and see
 
It’s getting great reviews overall but these are mostly places like ign who I don’t care about. The roger ebert website gave it a 2/4. So I’ll just have to watch it and see

There’s an Indian critic whose reviews are good, he said its good till end and in the end when protagonist becomes antagonist is when it really shines.
 
Guardian 5 stars, Empire 5 stars, Independent 4 stars, Telegraph 4 stars, Forbes has it as one of the films of the year. Very credible sources.
 
Looking at the trailer, it looks like it's bordering more on thriller/horror genre than superhero. Phoenix looks like a mad old witch when he's not in costume. He actually looks less scary as the Joker.

The thing is the MCU distorted the perception of comic book characters in general because graphic novels like the dark knight returns primarily revolved around very gritty adult themes which revolved around the thriller and psychological horror aspect, the same can be said about the killing joke, watchmen novels etc Saw the trailer today, it looked ok but wont have high expectations; this movie will join a very small list of releases which focused on super villain origins so it's going to be hit or miss I reckon, it should be solid though if not spectacular. It will be a while until we see something on the level of Nolan series / Logan, maybe Batman solo will do well to compete with those.
 
Wins the top prize at the Venice Film Festival.
 
This is leaving me cold, I'm afraid. The Joker doesn't have a past, nobody knows his name and he just is. Like an avatar of Loki. Giving him a backstory takes his power away.
 
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This is leaving me cold, I'm afraid. The Joker doesn't have a past, nobody knows his name and he just is. Like an avatar of Loki. Giving him a backstory takes his power away.

I see where you're coming from but the character itself has largely not received much screen time as far as live action movies are concerned in general and if we go by the same logic then perhaps Alan Moore should never have written the Killing Joke but it didn't harm the characters perception at all in my opinion and from what I have read this movie takes inspiration from that novel for its own premise so it should be fine. The challenge is to enthral us whilst leaving a decent amount to the imagination, I don't think they will go into too much detail and there is only so much you can cover in a couple of hours.
 
I hope you didn’t expect joker to be in positive light :P

I meant the protaagnist/antagaanist part :angelo

I have totally blocked out all media re the movie though as they seem to be hyping it through the moon with something happening everyday and given what I have read till 10 days ago it will be hard to justify the hype. Am just waiting for the DVD release but it will be harder to ignore soon as more reviews will start coming in once it hits mainstream English speaking cinemas everywhere.
 
I don't think this Joker is as good as Heath Ledger's Joker. It is possibly second best though.
 
I meant the protaagnist/antagaanist part :angelo

I have totally blocked out all media re the movie though as they seem to be hyping it through the moon with something happening everyday and given what I have read till 10 days ago it will be hard to justify the hype. Am just waiting for the DVD release but it will be harder to ignore soon as more reviews will start coming in once it hits mainstream English speaking cinemas everywhere.

Yup i have blocked all news regarding it as well just gonna watch it on Thursday and will know , hate that DC AND MARVEL go crazy with media attention.
 
I don't think this Joker is as good as Heath Ledger's Joker. It is possibly second best though.
Before coming to that conclusion you have to wait for 2nd movie of joker where he is pitted against batman.
This movie focuses more on a character study & origin of joker.
 
Before coming to that conclusion you have to wait for 2nd movie of joker where he is pitted against batman.
This movie focuses more on a character study & origin of joker.

I see. Didn't know there would be a second movie.

I still don't believe any other Joker would be as good as Heath Ledger's Joker. Everything about that Joker was masterpiece.

I would love to see Joaquin Phoenix prove me wrong.
 
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Before coming to that conclusion you have to wait for 2nd movie of joker where he is pitted against batman.
This movie focuses more on a character study & origin of joker.

There will be no second movie. Also this movie has no connection to Batman universe. The director has already confirmed this.
 
Watched the trailer and I am sorry to say this Joker is not as charismatic as Ledger's Joker.

Let's see how the movie goes.

Phoenix is playing a different version of the joker.

And a 3 minute trailer is not enough to judge a performance.

Phoenix is being talked of for an Oscar for his performance.
 
Just bought my ticket. I am planning to watch it in theatre tomorrow. Hopefully it will be a good one.
 
Watched the trailer and I am sorry to say this Joker is not as charismatic as Ledger's Joker.

Let's see how the movie goes.

Bhai I don’t think you know the Joker comic book history. There are many different iterations of the character. Im sorry to say your judgement is poor if you are judging him in this movie from two min trailers.
 
Bhai I don’t think you know the Joker comic book history. There are many different iterations of the character. Im sorry to say your judgement is poor if you are judging him in this movie from two min trailers.

I am aware of different versions of Joker. But, this movie seems to humanize Joker. I prefer Joker that is absolute vile and remorseless. This Joker is not that. Ledger's Joker was that.

Anyway. We should find out soon. I hope it is a good one as I paid for the ticket.
 
So, I finally watched this movie today. I have to say that it is a great movie with lots of great actors/actresses. However, I can't call this Joker the best Joker.

I have to call this Joker second worse Joker of all time (just better than Jack Leto). Both Ledger and Nicholson played better Jokers.

The thing that turned me off was the fact this Joker was way too emotional. It was like an emo Joker. I am giving this Joker C- and the movie B+. It also had a pretty lame ending. Joker got caught way too easily.
 
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Watched the movie in theatre today. I stand by my opinion that Ledger's Joker is the best of all time. This Joker is behind both Nicholson's Joker and Ledger's Joker.
 
Saw it , a very disturbing movie , its an origin story and its very brutal. Phoenix did do a great job ,but sadly I was cheering for the joker by the end of it which I'm not sure should had been the flow of the movie.
 
Saw it , a very disturbing movie , its an origin story and its very brutal. Phoenix did do a great job ,but sadly I was cheering for the joker by the end of it which I'm not sure should had been the flow of the movie.

What is wrong cheering for the antagonist/antihero for a change? How have we become such snowflakes? I cheered for Thanos in the infinity war because as a character he had more depth and shades than all other heroes combined, am I supposed to feel bad for that lmao?
 
Saw it , a very disturbing movie , its an origin story and its very brutal. Phoenix did do a great job ,but sadly I was cheering for the joker by the end of it which I'm not sure should had been the flow of the movie.

You cheered because you sympathised with his side of the story, its is instinctive, we all cheer for the underdog. Pretty sure that was the purpose of the movie.
 
What is wrong cheering for the antagonist/antihero for a change? How have we become such snowflakes? I cheered for Thanos in the infinity war because as a character he had more depth and shades than all other heroes combined, am I supposed to feel bad for that lmao?

Yes, you are because he murdered half the people in the Universe.
 
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