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Jos Buttler credits IPL stint for success in Test series against Pakistan

Balthazar said:
What are you trying to say here? They have selected Buttler for Test series on the basis of IPL performance and inturn, he delivered by scoring runs for his team. Without IPL, Buttler wouldn't have been selected. So IPL is indeed important when it comes to national selections.
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So English players can only get selected by performing in IPL these days? They don't have their own domestic system to measure their players performances? LOL.
 
Comically, people who claim that they don't see a single ball of IPL are the one's who talk about it the most.
 
Butler has 4 centuries in 83 domestic tests. Averages 32. Without gloves on he just doesn't deserve a spot in the English side. Wonder what additional factor was considered? :afridi
 
So, let me get this straight - A player himself has acknowledged that IPL has helped in batting (whatever means - confidence etc). People here are discrediting the players own words and claim the praises are for money.

But when the last time players like Darren Sammy etc praised PSL/Pakistan, those were praises were not for money?

Also, who are you to questions a players words. If a player acknowledges that a T20 tournament has helped him become a better batsman, then that’s the players belief.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
See [MENTION=141093]big_gamer007[/MENTION] this post is what is wrong with some of you fans. Now if you have played any kind of sports you know that playing useless matches and getting injured before an important series can be very depressing for a player. Now Virat Kohli's confidence will be pretty low because he couldn't play county cricket before the test series. And he has a point to prove this time in England.
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Useless for whom? For BCCI, IPL is as important as England tour, if not more.
 
ipl_fan said:
I think you have comprehension issues. I said discussing about the IPL. Not the matches in it. You need to read things carefully.
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Lol whoever doesn't agree with ipl fans starts having comprehension problems. We can discuss anything we want. If you have any problem go cry somewhere else rather than stopping people from commenting in this thread.
 
BreadPakoda said:
So how was Butler's domestic performance?
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From where did Buttler got his international cap? Its funny you guys are quick to give credit to IPL for all the positives but are not talking about Ben Stokes or injured Virat Kohli. I am sure if buttler fails in the upcoming series against India all the BreadPakodas and Samosas will not blame IPL for that.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
From where did Buttler got his international cap? Its funny you guys are quick to give credit to IPL for all the positives but are not talking about Ben Stokes or injured Virat Kohli. I am sure if buttler fails in the upcoming series against India all the BreadPakodas and Samosas will not blame IPL for that.
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You didn't answer the question yet again. Let me rephrase it for you. Did Butler deserve selection in the TEST side basis his domestic form?
 
Sidilicious said:
So, let me get this straight - A player himself has acknowledged that IPL has helped in batting (whatever means - confidence etc). People here are discrediting the players own words and claim the praises are for money.

But when the last time players like Darren Sammy etc praised PSL/Pakistan, those were praises were not for money?

Also, who are you to questions a players words. If a player acknowledges that a T20 tournament has helped him become a better batsman, then that’s the players belief.
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It's almost like a person confesses to murder but the police and media try to solve puzzle what he is confessing....must be some ulterior motive 🤣🤣
 
Sidilicious said:
So, let me get this straight - A player himself has acknowledged that IPL has helped in batting (whatever means - confidence etc). People here are discrediting the players own words and claim the praises are for money.

But when the last time players like Darren Sammy etc praised PSL/Pakistan, those were praises were not for money?

Also, who are you to questions a players words. If a player acknowledges that a T20 tournament has helped him become a better batsman, then that’s the players belief.
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I said the same about Darren Sammy and KP regarding PSL where were you then? I am pretty consistent with my views. I don't change them like some other fans are doing here. Also I am not a Pakistani so I don't care much about their league because it isn't affecting players like Kohli who is injured currently by playing in IPL.


Nobody can question players words? Let me explain this in simple words. When a player praises IPL you guys say that his views are genuine and nobody should question that. But when another player says something negative about IPL his views become fake and die hard IPL fans starts calling him jealous? Hypocrisy of highest order.
 
BreadPakoda said:
You didn't answer the question yet again. Let me rephrase it for you. Did Butler deserve selection in the TEST side basis his domestic form?
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Buttler had already played more than 15 tests for England. Don't make it look like IPL found him and helped him make his debut.
 
Mamoon said:
People are burning as usual, but their third-degree burns will not change the fact that the IPL is the highest standard of limited overs cricket.

It is international cricket in franchise form, and unlike international cricket, they are no filler teams and filler games. Every side is packed with quality players, and every game counts. Moreover, they are packed houses and the pressure is intense in every game.

If you want to improve as a cricketer, the IPL is the place to be. Third class copycat leagues like the PSL, BPL, CPL, BBL etc. will never reach that level because playing in the IPL means something now.

It is no longer a paid holiday or a retirement home for dead cricketers; it is an honor to play in the tournament because all the world class players play in it and some times, elite cricketers like Joe Root, Hashim Amla etc. are snubbed as well.

It is the modern version of Kerry Packer's WSC. Moeen Ali's comments deeply wounded PPers, but he spoke the truth. Money is no longer the main factor for players wanting to play in the IPL; as Joe Root highlighted, it is a platform where you get to improve as a cricketer.

World class players, high competition for places, no dead rubber games and huge crowds. Limited Overs cricket doesn't get any better. It is a shame that our players are not allowed to play in it, but of course it is entirely self-inflicted.
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POTW, The burn is getting worse and worse for IPL haters as time passes and it is influencing even the Test natch selections of the England cricket team, All the commentators were saying "IPL this IPL that" in the entire Eng-Pak test series which caused uncontrollable burn to many people.

Now the double whammy of statements from Moeen Ali and Buttler has further aggravated the pains of these IPL haters and the burn category as you rightly said can be classified as 3rd Degree. As for Pakistani non-participation, again you are spot-on that it self-inflicted, the PCB was trying to harm IPL by pulling players at the last moment before IPL 2009 and then certain players revealed their true self by explaining the Zehniyat of some people on news channels.

After all this Pakistanis said IPL will crash and burn soon and without Pakistani players it won't get more popular. Again the haters were proved wrong and IPL got only bigger and better and is now the premier limited overs tournament in the world and even influences English test team selections and talks amongst commentators on test match days.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
I said the same about Darren Sammy and KP regarding PSL where were you then? I am pretty consistent with my views. I don't change them like some other fans are doing here. Also I am not a Pakistani so I don't care much about their league because it isn't affecting players like Kohli who is injured currently by playing in IPL.


Nobody can question players words? Let me explain this in simple words. When a player praises IPL you guys say that his views are genuine and nobody should question that. But when another player says something negative about IPL his views become fake and die hard IPL fans starts calling him jealous? Hypocrisy of highest order.
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1. I do not follow PSL at all, and only follow a bit of IPL for the Indian youngsters. In fact, I am not a fan of domestic T20 tournaments either, but I acknowledge the financial impact of such tournaments on the cricketers. Also, I do not go about adding 50 posts a day on IPL.

The comment about PSL and Darren Sammy/KP was not directed at you but those Pakistani posters who have a problem in the post.

The second comment at questioning the players motive was directed towards you.

If a player has played for IPL, and then posts something negative then we ought to take those comments seriously. But when cricketers or commentators who have not been part of IPL, criticises or praises IPL without knowing what’s happening within the IPL and the impact of IPL, I would then question their motives. But when a cricketer has played IPL, and praises the impact IPL has on his cricket, it needs to be taken seriously.

There was no need for Butler to add that the IPL helped him. If he was asked the question about IPL, and he didn’t believe that IPL had an impact on his confidence level, he could have just diverted the topic, or said something on the lines that they are different formats etc. But he categorically said that it improved his batting. You then have to take his word at face value.

If you start questioning those words for ulterior motives, then you need to question every single word uttered by everyone for an ulterior motive.
 
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Yaa the only way for butler to secure next year’s ipl contract is by crediting IPL for all the man of the match performances else he is gonna be unsold like root or ipl franchises will ban him for sure like they did for Pak players...
ECB strictly instructed selection committee and players to praise ipl after every win..this is to avoid backlash from franchises who can influence bcci to cancel all future indian tours thereby pushing ecb financially to zimbabwe or windies cricket association status
Our beloved armchair critics who never held cricket bat in their life are gifted with incredible talent to dissect batsmen shots and assign the root cause to ipl or counties or player natural ability based on the merit of the shot...as they confirmed that Buttler is lying and he is indeed lying as he himself dont know the reason behind his success:dw
 
Brodipet_baadshah said:
Yaa the only way for butler to secure next year’s ipl contract is by crediting IPL for all the man of the match performances else he is gonna be unsold like root or ipl franchises will ban him for sure like they did for Pak players...
ECB strictly instructed selection committee and players to praise ipl after every win..this is to avoid backlash from franchises who can influence bcci to cancel all future indian tours thereby pushing ecb financially to zimbabwe or windies cricket association status
Our beloved armchair critics who never held cricket bat in their life are gifted with incredible talent to dissect batsmen shots and assign the root cause to ipl or counties or player natural ability based on the merit of the shot...as they confirmed that Buttler is lying and he is indeed lying as he himself dont know the reason behind his success:dw
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Here comes another poster who has played first class cricket and dismiss others as armchair critics. :moyo
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
See [MENTION=141093]big_gamer007[/MENTION] this post is what is wrong with some of you fans. Now if you have played any kind of sports you know that playing useless matches and getting injured before an important series can be very depressing for a player. Now Virat Kohli's confidence will be pretty low because he couldn't play county cricket before the test series. And he has a point to prove this time in England.
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We live in a money driven society where everything is defined by capitalist.. You think if kohli and other top Indian players refuse to play IPL saying they want to play county to prepare for England series BCCI will take it? IPL is BCCI’s money maker they will never allow their top players to skip IPL because BCCI is filled with greedy capitalists.. Similarly the players will also play IPL for the money they earn along with other factors.

What BCCI needs to do is better scheduling, India play the most number of matches and then add to that IPL as well.. BCCI needs to schedule better right now they are on their way to just maximise as much profit as they can make irrespective of any players health or results of series whether we win or lose.

Regarding kohli’s Injury he was probably aware before the IPL of niggling injuries and if he was then he should have opted out of IPL and rest.. It was foolish of him to play IPL despite of niggles but money talks..

Now he will go unprepared for England series and might fail.. Is IPL to blame for it? NO
Why? Because IPL hosted by BCCI and Indian cricket is also managed by BCCI they need to find the right balance and right scheduling.. If they prioritise international matches and stop IPL FairPlay to them, if they want to make money from both then find a balance..

Kohli is also to be blamed for choosing money over health provided he knew about injuries beforehand or in middle season.

IPL is just a tournament not a human being who can control things.. So IPL itself has no power it’s about the people involved whether it be administrators, owners or players who have the power to say yes or no..
 
Sidilicious said:
There was no need for Butler to add that the IPL helped him. If he was asked the question about IPL, and he didn’t believe that IPL had an impact on his confidence level, he could have just diverted the topic, or said something on the lines that they are different formats etc. But he categorically said that it improved his batting. You then have to take his word at face value.
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This. There was absolutely no need for Buttler to say this and he would still go for big in the next IPL auctions because of the kind of player he is. It was directed more towards ECB to let their players participate in the IPL. I don't see this kind of interest by players showing for other leagues even though they will get paid.
 
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Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Here comes another poster who has played first class cricket and dismiss others as armchair critics. :moyo
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im not a first class cricketer neither am cricket analyst boasting the quality of dissecting player’s shots and finding the root cause and not a narco test specialist even who can read a player’s statement mind and confirm if he is lying or not:yk
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
So English players can only get selected by performing in IPL these days? They don't have their own domestic system to measure their players performances? LOL.
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I don't know why its soo difficult for you to understand.
Did anyone say that IPL is the only parameter ? Noo
Its an important tournament and if a player performs good he will be considered for national duty.
There are many ways by which a player can get selected for national side, IPL is one of them.
 
Kaptan said:
Lol what's wrong with Kane and Watson ?
36 year old Watson will easily thrash your current tudlers on flat IPL pitches.
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May be because Kane is an average T20 batsman and Watson is a retired cricketer?

Watson will thrash most of the bowlers in any T20 league and that is my point. International cricket especially ODIs have far higher standard.
 
giri26 said:
The same Watson scored 300+ runs in PSL and BBL earlier this year (Played 10 games in each though compared to 15 in IPL). His average in all three tournaments was about the same and his SR was higher in IPL, that is because the pitches were more suited to batting. I don't understand how Watson's success should downgrade a tournament. He performed almost similar in all T20 leagues he has participated in.
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Nothing wrong with what you said and I am not downgrading IPL. I was responding to Mamoon's ridiculous statement that IPL is the highest standard of shorter formats.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
See [MENTION=141093]big_gamer007[/MENTION] this post is what is wrong with some of you fans. Now if you have played any kind of sports you know that playing useless matches and getting injured before an important series can be very depressing for a player. Now Virat Kohli's confidence will be pretty low because he couldn't play county cricket before the test series. And he has a point to prove this time in England.
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I have no idea how a true cricket fan hate it in any form . I really doubt you watch test cricket .
 
Rahul1 said:
How exactly are these two things related?
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Do not ridicule Kamran, the batsman. A lot of Indian posters make fun of Kamran being a top scoring batsman in PSL. They however, forget the fact that Kamran has played some very outstanding innings even in international cricket in all formats.
 
jusarrived said:
I have no idea how a true cricket fan hate it in any form . I really doubt you watch test cricket .
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No offence but aren't you the same guy who used to hate Sachin and had long debates with Indiafan? I really doubt you love cricket because of your hatred towards Sachin.
 
The_Odd_One said:
Do not ridicule Kamran, the batsman. A lot of Indian posters make fun of Kamran being a top scoring batsman in PSL. They however, forget the fact that Kamran has played some very outstanding innings even in international cricket in all formats.
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So you are free to ridicule IPL by demeaning Watson who is/was/always will be 10 times the player Akmal was but when someone brings in PSL and Ridicule it using Akmal’s example you become all touchy?
 
The_Odd_One said:
Do not ridicule Kamran, the batsman. A lot of Indian posters make fun of Kamran being a top scoring batsman in PSL. They however, forget the fact that Kamran has played some very outstanding innings even in international cricket in all formats.
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Kamran may be a Pakistani legend and one of your best batsmen ever but for the rest of the world he was an epitome of mediocrity with the bat (what did he average? in 20s? lol ) and a joker with the gloves. Hardik Pandya with a 93 off 95 at Capetown made the highest scorer in a game which featured ABD, Faf, Hashim Amla and Kohli. Does that mean he is beyond criticism or casual banter?
 
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big_gamer007 said:
So you are free to ridicule IPL by demeaning Watson who is/was/always will be 10 times the player Akmal was but when someone brings in PSL and Ridicule it using Akmal’s example you become all touchy?
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Watson is a top player. I was in awe of his PSL performance too. At 37 he’s still one of the fittest cricketers.
 
BreadPakoda said:
Kamran may be a Pakistani legend and one of your best batsmen ever but for the rest of the world he was an epitome of mediocrity with the bat (what did he average? in 20s? lol ) and a joker with the gloves. Hardik Pandya with a 93 off 95 at Capetown made the highest scorer in a game which featured ABD, Faf, Hashim Amla and Kohli. Does that mean he is beyond criticism or casual banter?
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We should be the last one to make fun of Kamran Akmal. If he is a Pakistani legend then we are responsible for making him that. Don't know what I am talking about? Watch 2005, 2006 test series between India and Pakistan.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
We should be the last one to make fun of Kamran Akmal. If he is a Pakistani legend then we are responsible for making him that. Don't know what I am talking about? Watch 2005, 2006 test series between India and Pakistan.
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I’ve watched all those tests. You clearly don’t have the context. Not sure what is forcing you to comment on every single post in the thread.
 
BreadPakoda said:
I’ve watched all those tests. You clearly don’t have the context. Not sure what is forcing you to comment on every single post in the thread.
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Really? Then why are you going off topic and discussing about Kamran Akmal here? Practice what your preach and stay on topic.
 
big_gamer007 said:
So you are free to ridicule IPL by demeaning Watson who is/was/always will be 10 times the player Akmal was but when someone brings in PSL and Ridicule it using Akmal’s example you become all touchy?
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I'm not ridiculing the IPL. I'm saying that IPL is beneath international cricket.
 
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BreadPakoda said:
Kamran may be a Pakistani legend and one of your best batsmen ever but for the rest of the world he was an epitome of mediocrity with the bat (what did he average? in 20s? lol ) and a joker with the gloves. Hardik Pandya with a 93 off 95 at Capetown made the highest scorer in a game which featured ABD, Faf, Hashim Amla and Kohli. Does that mean he is beyond criticism or casual banter?
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Kamran is not beyond criticism. He's probably the most disliked cricketer on this forum. However, you cannot make ridiculous statements like PSL is poor because Kamran was a top scorer.
 
Pakistani players are not banned at IPL. The franchise owners consider them a risky investment because they seem to want to be treated like superstars and threaten to walk out at drop of hat
Then there is pcb who in 2009 thought them pulling out Pakistani players at last moment would flop IPLa nd they could use it as some kind of leveragr.

Anyway the fact which some people overlook for convenience isThat investing a lot of $$$$☆ for a Pakistani player is not worth it from franchise owner risk point of view. Purely business.It also now has option of investing in Afghanistan players who deliver performance and are available all times
 
Reddy said:
POTW, The burn is getting worse and worse for IPL haters as time passes and it is influencing even the Test natch selections of the England cricket team, All the commentators were saying "IPL this IPL that" in the entire Eng-Pak test series which caused uncontrollable burn to many people.

Now the double whammy of statements from Moeen Ali and Buttler has further aggravated the pains of these IPL haters and the burn category as you rightly said can be classified as 3rd Degree. As for Pakistani non-participation, again you are spot-on that it self-inflicted, the PCB was trying to harm IPL by pulling players at the last moment before IPL 2009 and then certain players revealed their true self by explaining the Zehniyat of some people on news channels.

After all this Pakistanis said IPL will crash and burn soon and without Pakistani players it won't get more popular. Again the haters were proved wrong and IPL got only bigger and better and is now the premier limited overs tournament in the world and even influences English test team selections and talks amongst commentators on test match days.
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Relax on the burn notion. I personally haven't followed IPL since the first season, and no I don't hate it, I just don't follow it as it's an average tournament and neither I am from India that I would have much interest.

People are only questioning if players credit T20 for Test performance then many more chinto minto of IPL would have been making Test sides and scoring loads of runs, which we all know isn't the case. IPL has been going on for a decade and mostly has developed FTBs.

Buttler is average in English domestic and had a one good recent Test knock. I wouldn't disagree with him that tournament like IPL or any other good T20 or competitive tournament helps with the mentality aspect, but skills wise highly doubt it. It's a completely different ball game and anyone crediting IPL or T20 in general for Test performance is just naive.
 
The_Odd_One said:
I'm not ridiculing the IPL. I'm saying that IPL is beneath international cricket.
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Beneath International cricket in what sense?

If you mean quality wise then the quality is subjective and relative.. Some matches IPL has better quality than some international matches others it might have lesser quality..

E.G.: T20 series between Scotland and Pakistan will have lower quality than matches between CSK and SRH or other team.
T20 matches between India and England will have a higher quality than IPL matches.

Also quality depends on how the teams perform during that day if players perform sub par in international matches then the quality of IPL matches assuming players are performing to their fullest will certainly be higher..

So beneath international matches in what sense?
 
Kamran and Luke Ronchi were top scorers in PSL. Both of them fail consistently in international scene for over 10 years now.
Others like Watson ,russsel , gayle fail in PSL but score in ipl and at international games.


Which means either they I.e Ronchi and Akmal and Bopara are great batters compared to Gayle,Watson,Russell or PSL bowling standard is rubbish
 
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big_gamer007 said:
Beneath International cricket in what sense?

If you mean quality wise then the quality is subjective and relative.. Some matches IPL has better quality than some international matches others it might have lesser quality..

E.G.: T20 series between Scotland and Pakistan will have lower quality than matches between CSK and SRH or other team.
T20 matches between India and England will have a higher quality than IPL matches.

Also quality depends on how the teams perform during that day if players perform sub par in international matches then the quality of IPL matches assuming players are performing to their fullest will certainly be higher..

So beneath international matches in what sense?
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In some cases IPL will have better quality than international cricket, for example BD vs AFG T20 series. However, IPL is not definitely the gold standard and the highest form of limited overs cricket. This is an exaggeration. WT20 and CT or any multi team tournament had far better quality of cricket.
 
mp812rediff said:
Kamran and Luke Ronchi were top scorers in PSL. Both of them fail consistently in international scene for over 10 years now.
Others like Watson ,russsel , gayle fail in PSL but score in ipl and at international games.


Which means either they I.e Ronchi and Akmal and Bopara are great batters compared to Gayle,Watson,Russell or PSL bowling standard is rubbish
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You have probably not even watched PSL. Watson was very good with bat in PSL. Russell was injured, he did not play PSL. Gayle was not even picked. Bopara did nothing signifcant.

If you want to make conclusions then at least get your facts right.
 
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I like Jos. He is good enough to make England test team without performances in the IPL. He should have more confidence in his ability.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Awww why do you guys get so defensive? Buttler praised IPL for his match winning knock against Pakistan in England.<b> He is just praising IPL for more money. </b>Only IPL bhakts can't see that.
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You are a pretty cynical guy. When a player says something that contradicts your worldview your default response is that he is lying for the sake of more money. It appears you haven't even read what Buttler said. He did not say that IPL helped him with swing and seam, rather the experience of playing in front of large crowds and getting repeated chances to bat.
 
Not too different from how Warner gained confidence he could play Tests after talking to Sehwag for 2 months in the IPL.
 
Napa said:
You are a pretty cynical guy. When a player says something that contradicts your worldview your default response is that he is lying for the sake of more money. It appears you haven't even read what Buttler said. He did not say that IPL helped him with swing and seam, rather the experience of playing in front of large crowds and getting repeated chances to bat.
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Lol @ default response. I don't even remember saying this for more than 2-3 players. You love to put words in people's mouth and defend your beloved IPL blindly. Learn to respect different opinions not everyone is a cheerleader like you here.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Lol @ default response. I don't even remember saying this for more than 2-3 players. You love to put words in people's mouth and defend your beloved IPL blindly. Learn to respect different opinions not everyone is a cheerleader like you here.
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It is your default response for any player who has anything good to say about the IPL.

You are really quite naive if you believe that you wrote about Buttler's motives. He is in line for a million dollar contract next year simply for the way he played this year. He is not going to get any more money for saying IPL helped his game.
 
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Remember when he was woefully out of touch and we got him back in form, forget if it was an ODI or a T20I. Think it was a T20I.
 
Fantastic player, first name on the England teamsheet in limited overs and might just crack Test cricket soon.
 
I will never forgive Buttler for CT 2013 final where I was talking about how he is a dangerous player and proceeded to play the worst shot ever resulting in me becoming the butt of my friends' jokes. But on a serious note, he is an exciting player. The kind who can bring fans to the sport.
 
in the T20 match England's two best batsmen of the last couple of years, Jonny Bairstow and Joe Root, prodding hopefully at the ball, no idea which way it would turn, was to see men confronted by something they didn't recognise or understand.
Might it be relevant that none of the three men Kuldeep dismissed in the 14th over - Eoin Morgan, Bairstow and Root - had played in the IPL in the past year? It might be. Just as it might be relevant that Buttler, who excelled in the IPL, was the one man to pick him.
 
mp812rediff said:
in the T20 match England's two best batsmen of the last couple of years, Jonny Bairstow and Joe Root, prodding hopefully at the ball, no idea which way it would turn, was to see men confronted by something they didn't recognise or understand.
Might it be relevant that none of the three men Kuldeep dismissed in the 14th over - Eoin Morgan, Bairstow and Root - had played in the IPL in the past year? It might be. Just as it might be relevant that Buttler, who excelled in the IPL, was the one man to pick him.
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Definitely relevant for the shorter formats. Buttler looked the only one comfortable against the spinners. In the IPL Buttler got to face some quality wrist spin whereas, as Morgan admitted, English players don't generally get to practise against that kind of bowling much.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Definitely relevant for the shorter formats. Buttler looked the only one comfortable against the spinners. In the IPL Buttler got to face some quality wrist spin whereas, as Morgan admitted, English players don't generally get to practise against that kind of bowling much.
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I'd imagine Kuldeep being a chinaman has a lot to do with it. I'm struggling to think of a single notable chinaman in county cricket right now or even recently.
 
HitWicket said:
I'd imagine Kuldeep being a chinaman has a lot to do with it. I'm struggling to think of a single notable chinaman in county cricket right now or even recently.
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Apparently there is no Chinaman playing in domestic cricket in England which is what Morgan was talking about. He said that it was difficult to prepare for 95 mph bowlers or for chinaman spinners since there's nobody who bowls like that.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Lol @ default response. I don't even remember saying this for more than 2-3 players. You love to put words in people's mouth and defend your beloved IPL blindly. Learn to respect different opinions not everyone is a cheerleader like you here.
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Yes bhai you are the only one who knows what's going on in the minds of cricketers and why they do and say what they do. Hundreds cricketers have praised the IPL for various reasons.
But of they were all lying. You are the only person we should trust, isn't it? You sitting there in front of your laptop eating a bag of chips know more about cricket than the players themselves. Well done. I salute you.
 
You also admitted that you don't even watch the IPL but somehow you still feel entitled to give your expert opinion on it. Talk is cheap, my friend.
 
A much needed reality check for those who believe that playing in a T20 league can prepare a batsman for tests
 
Most consistent batsman in the English team this season. Looks like IPL is better than county cricket in producing test match players for England. He has outbatted Cook,Root and Bairstow.
 
IPL has given him the ability to handle pressure I think. T20 cricket has its challenges of its own. Maybe Bittler couldn't do well in tests eadlier because he couldn't handle pressure. Now he's completely changed.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Most consistent batsman in the English team this season. Looks like IPL is better than county cricket in producing test match players for England. He has outbatted Cook,Root and Bairstow.
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so the same ipl from which Rahane ,dhawan,pandya etc are playing from 5 to 6 session have not improve their game in test but it have for butler.Curran is also 2nd highest run getter for england i wonder what have help his game
 
saeed5646 said:
so the same ipl from which Rahane ,dhawan,pandya etc are playing from 5 to 6 session have not improve their game in test but it have for butler.Curran is also 2nd highest run getter for england i wonder what have help his game
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It is our league brother, so pool of Indian players is huge but overseas players only top talents are taken like Buttler. That's why root didn't get a contract and rightly so considering he's failing :moyo Sam Curran is gonna be in the IPL next year. Franchises are trying to get him already.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
It is our league brother, so pool of Indian players is huge but overseas players only top talents are taken like Buttler. That's why root didn't get a contract and rightly so considering he's failing :moyo Sam Curran is gonna be in the IPL next year. Franchises are trying to get him already.
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T20 cricket don.t improve test batting or technique it is just myth .i would have take butler batting seriously have curran not score second highest runs for england .
 
Joseph Gomes said:
IPL has given him the ability to handle pressure I think. T20 cricket has its challenges of its own. Maybe Bittler couldn't do well in tests eadlier because he couldn't handle pressure. Now he's completely changed.
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And what ability did IPL give to Rahul, Dhawan and Rahane jee?
 
Excellent summer for Buttler. May be worth him batting higher up the order.
 
saeed5646 said:
so the same ipl from which Rahane ,dhawan,pandya etc are playing from 5 to 6 session have not improve their game in test but it have for butler.Curran is also 2nd highest run getter for england i wonder what have help his game
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Curran watched an IPL match featuring Buttler. :inti
 
cricketjoshila said:
Buttler was batting in his home conditions?

Were Rahul Dhawan or Rahane doing the same?
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So why are people giving credit to IPL then? Let Buttler score these same runs in India and Sri Lanka first then give credit to Leagues. :inti
 
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