Jos Buttler credits IPL stint for success in Test series against Pakistan

[cricketjoshila]

Already repeated it thousand times in this thread. He is doing it to make his masters happy and want more money.

He told you or did you read his mind?Or is there a proper credible source for this claim?

 

[Hasan123]

Already repeated it thousand times in this thread. He is doing it to make his masters happy and want more money.

Some players do make such comments for more money but Buttler is an established international cricketer. He doesn't need to beg for more money. Just make himself available for the auction and the big money will come to him.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

He told you or did you read his mind?Or is there a proper credible source for this claim?

Exactly wanted this reply from you so that I can ask the following question.

Now tell me did Michael Holding told you that he is jealous and bitter about not getting a contract from IPL? Or did he tell you in person that he hates India? Did you read his mind? Or is there a proper credible source for this claim?

This is a two way sword. Don't try to hold it.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Some players do make such comments for more money but Buttler is an established international cricketer. He doesn't need to beg for more money. Just make himself available for the auction and the big money will come to him.

You can read my above post. You will get your answer.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Exactly wanted this reply from you so that I can ask the following question.

Now tell me did Michael Holding told you that he is jealous and bitter about not getting a contract from IPL? Or did he tell you in person that he hates India? Did you read his mind? Or is there a proper credible source for this claim?

This is a two way sword. Don't try to hold it.

Holding is on record saying he doesnot like bcci and the ipl.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=piCimRji5IE


https://m.timesofindia.com/sports/n...roblem-with-BCCI/amp_articleshow/15591929.cms


You want more? Listen to his commentary.

Now please post a source which says Buttler wanted to please his masters and wanted more money.

A two way sword is a very effective weapon to fight with. The opponent thinks the wielder cant defend and hence attacks and himself gets impaled.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Holding is on record saying he doesnot like bcci and the ipl.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=piCimRji5IE


https://m.timesofindia.com/sports/n...roblem-with-BCCI/amp_articleshow/15591929.cms


You want more? Listen to his commentary.

Now please post a source which says Buttler wanted to please his masters and wanted more money.

A two way sword is a very effective weapon to fight with. The opponent thinks the wielder cant defend and hence attacks and himself gets impaled.

Read my post again. Let me break it into some parts for you so that you can understand.

1) Did Michael Holding told you that he is jealous and bitter about not getting a contract from IPL?

Where is your source where it mentions he hates BCCI and IPL because he didn't get a contract from IPL? This is what guys like you accuse him here for. Did you read his mind? No. You made that up.

2) Did he tell you in person that he hates India?

Hating BCCI doesn't equate to hating India for everything which some of you try to blame him for. He hates his own board too for how they run West Indies cricket. Again your source doesn't prove he hates India as a country. Try again.

Again this is a two way sword. Don't try to hold it.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Read my post again. Let me break it into some parts for you so that you can understand.

1) Did Michael Holding told you that he is jealous and bitter about not getting a contract from IPL?

Where is your source where it mentions he hates BCCI and IPL because he didn't get a contract from IPL? This is what guys like you accuse him here for. Did you read his mind? No. You made that up.

2) Did he tell you in person that he hates India?

Hating BCCI doesn't equate to hating India for everything which some of you try to blame him for. He hates his own board too for how they run West Indies cricket. Again your source doesn't prove he hates India as a country. Try again.

Again this is a two way sword. Don't try to hold it.

1. Please post the link to that claim of mine.

2. He hates Indian cricket Bcci thats what i said. Bcci represents India and Indian cricket team represents India.

Now please post your source to Buttler claims.

Again you get impaled.

 

[Canford Cliffs]

Already repeated it thousand times in this thread. He is doing it to make his masters happy and want more money.

How do you know that? Do you hv any proof of your accusations?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

1. Please post the link to that claim of mine.

2. He hates Indian cricket Bcci thats what i said. Bcci represents India and Indian cricket team represents India.

Now please post your source to Buttler claims.

Again you get impaled.

He hates Indian cricket thats why he praised Kohli and compared him to Viv? Lol. May be Kohli isn't Indian and doesn't represent India or BCCI.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

How do you know that? Do you hv any proof of your accusations?

Do you ask these same questions when people accuse Holding of being bitter and jealous for not getting a piece of an IPL cake? No. You just join them like a hypocrite.

 

[Balthazar]

Buried Pakistan and now us. It's a treat to watch him bat in IPL.

 

[James]

Brilliant season for him.

I don’t know who the openers will be in Sri Lanka, but I would suggest that the rest of the batting order plays out as follows:

3. Ali
4. Root*
5. Buttler
6. Stokes
7. Bairstow+
8. S.Curran
9. Rashid
10. Broad
11. Anderson

 

[cricketjoshila]

He hates Indian cricket thats why he praised Kohli and compared him to Viv? Lol. May be Kohli isn't Indian and doesn't represent India or BCCI.

He said in SA that Kohli is not a great batsman as he did not score runs in England.

 

[saeed5646]

Buried Pakistan and now us. It's a treat to watch him bat in IPL.

lol you are comparing his 2 50 against us to 400+ runs he scored against india

 

[the_outsider]

lol you are comparing his 2 50 against us to 400+ runs he scored against india

Well, he is averaging 43 against us and he averaged 80 against Pakistan so....

 

[Canford Cliffs]

Do you ask these same questions when people accuse Holding of being bitter and jealous for not getting a piece of an IPL cake? No. You just join them like a hypocrite.

Dont give gyaan...just post the link where Butler said he is only praising IPL for money.

 

[Balthazar]

lol you are comparing his 2 50 against us to 400+ runs he scored against india

He was the highest run scorer in that Test series. Just accept that an IPL superstar buried your team in Test cricket.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

He was the highest run scorer in that Test series. Just accept that an IPL superstar buried your team in Test cricket.

One IPL superstar also buried a team full of IPL superstars in a 5 match test series. Either he is too powerful or those other IPL superstars are made up of soft plastic.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Jos buttler is a good human being and would never lie about something as important as this . You are comparing Buttler to guys like Michael holding who is a stubborn old man as athers pointed out. [MENTION=134981]Bhaag Viru Bhaag[/MENTION] I know you don't rate IPL brother but it's very cheap of you to accuse jos of just sucking up to his paymasters. Expected better

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Jos buttler is a good human being and would never lie about something as important as this . You are comparing Buttler to guys like Michael holding who is a stubborn old man as athers pointed out. [MENTION=134981]Bhaag Viru Bhaag[/MENTION] I know you don't rate IPL brother but it's very cheap of you to accuse jos of just sucking up to his paymasters. Expected better

Do you think Holding is doing this because he didn't get IPL money transfered to his bank account?

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Do you think Holding is doing this because he didn't get IPL money transfered to his bank account?

No I have no proof of that. But he definitely has become

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Do you think Holding is doing this because he didn't get IPL money transfered to his bank account?

He has become more biased in the last 10 years and despite bashing T20 cricket and IPL in particular he certainly has no problem endorsing other leagues. If joshila Bhai is right and he was indeed not given a contract then it might explain his increasing bias. However, just like bumble, the only way to expose him is to actually give him a contract

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

He has become more biased in the last 10 years and despite bashing T20 cricket and IPL in particular he certainly has no problem endorsing other leagues. If joshila Bhai is right and he was indeed not given a contract then it might explain his increasing bias. However, just like bumble, the only way to expose him is to actually give him a contract

If holding gets an IPL contract he will start praising IPL? Is that what you are trying to say here?

 

[Nikhil_cric]

If holding gets an IPL contract he will start praising IPL? Is that what you are trying to say here?

Im saying that if he does that then it would explain why he has become the way he is. He'd get exposed just the way bumble was. Right now there's no proof so I won't comment but considering his hypocrisy when it comes to T20 leagues I'd say that's a good guess.

 

[Titan24]

[SUP][/SUP]

Buried Pakistan and now us. It's a treat to watch him bat in IPL.

Last 2 series in England we have drawn, cant say the same about India. Yes we might have won the recent series but Buttler stopped us from that.

 

[cricketjoshila]

lol you are comparing his 2 50 against us to 400+ runs he scored against india

So Buttler has scored 400+ runs in this test series?

Can you post a stat link to this claim?

 

[saeed5646]

He was the highest run scorer in that Test series. Just accept that an IPL superstar buried your team in Test cricket.

Where he did buried pak lol

1-1 draw which india can only dream of in eng

If buried pakistan what about a newbie like curran did to mighty india .do you have a word for him?

 

[saeed5646]

Well, he is averaging 43 against us and he averaged 80 against Pakistan so....

A basic common sense
He was notout in one inning so average will jump up.

 

[saeed5646]

So Buttler has scored 400+ runs in this test series?

Can you post a stat link to this claim?

349 and one inning remaining not impossible

 

[cricketjoshila]

349 and one inning remaining not impossible

You said he "scored" not he "will score" 400 runs.

 

[Balthazar]

Where he did buried pak lol

1-1 draw which india can only dream of in eng

If buried pakistan what about a newbie like curran did to mighty india .do you have a word for him?

He was the reason England won the second Test match against your team. What else do you call that? He was playing a T20 game in that match.

 

[saeed5646]

He was the reason England won the second Test match against your team. What else do you call that? He was playing a T20 game in that match.

Did he win that test series for england?if he was playing t20 in that test series he should have won test series for eng single handedly .

he was good but not as good you are making him out just because he score against india and you have to justify that

 

[saeed5646]

You said he "scored" not he "will score" 400 runs.

May be typo he will score 400 +if get chance in second inning

 

[Balthazar]

Did he win that test series for england?if he was playing t20 in that test series he should have won test series for eng single handedly .

he was good but not as good you are making him out just because he score against india and you have to justify that

He had a highest average and highest runs scored by any batsmen in that series against Pakistan. All thanks to his IPL stint.

 

[saeed5646]

He had a highest average and highest runs scored by any batsmen in that series against Pakistan. All thanks to his IPL stint.

OMG this is GOAT game esque staff .2 fifty in 2 test indeed man you are right but to burst you bubble he averages 80 because he was notout in one inning

 

[Mamoon]

To summarize this thread:

Buttler:

“IPL has helped me improve as a player.”

Pakistani fans:

“No, you are lying.”

 

[saeed5646]

He had a highest average and highest runs scored by any batsmen in that series against Pakistan. All thanks to his IPL stint.

i don,t know why his destructive batting of ipl did not allow him to score at higher strike rate .Shadab
have higher strike rate than him

 

[the_outsider]

A basic common sense
He was notout in one inning so average will jump up.

349 runs in 8 innings vs Ind is 43 runs per innings.
161 runs in 3 innings vs Pak is 53 runs per innings.

Difference of 10 runs in average i.e. 23%.


It's basic math.

 

[the_outsider]

To summarize this thread:

Buttler:

“IPL has helped me improve as a player.”

Pakistani fans:

“No, you are lying.”

Has any top foreign player said that playing in PSL made them a better player?

 

[mak36]

If holding gets an IPL contract he will start praising IPL? Is that what you are trying to say here?

Im saying that if he does that then it would explain why he has become the way he is. He'd get exposed just the way bumble was. Right now there's no proof so I won't comment but considering his hypocrisy when it comes to T20 leagues I'd say that's a good guess.

Your comment is delusional.

You do realise Holding refuses to commentate on any T20s (including for Sky)?

 

[saeed5646]

349 runs in 8 innings vs Ind is 43 runs per innings.
161 runs in 3 innings vs Pak is 53 runs per innings.

Difference of 10 runs in average i.e. 23%.


It's basic math.

This is worse logic i have ever saw.you inculded his 80 notout in his overall score but did the math with 3 inning
4 inning =160 .40 runs per inning i hope you do understand now.

 

[saeed5646]

Has any top foreign player said that playing in PSL made them a better player?

None of your problem stick to your pajama league topic is not about PSL

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Your comment is delusional.

You do realise Holding refuses to commentate on any T20s (including for Sky)?

Yet he had no qualms about supporting the CPL.

 

[Napa]

Do you ask these same questions when people accuse Holding of being bitter and jealous for not getting a piece of an IPL cake? No. You just join them like a hypocrite.

You are behaving in a manner you criticize others for.

Anyway, it is a fact that Holding hasn't received a share of the IPL riches, while Buttler will get a rich contract irrespective of what he says simply because of his performance. Owners care about performance and are not so stupid as to give someone more money than they need to just because they said something nice about the IPL.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

You are behaving in a manner you criticize others for.

Anyway, it is a fact that Holding hasn't received a share of the IPL riches, while Buttler will get a rich contract irrespective of what he says simply because of his performance. Owners care about performance and are not so stupid as to give someone more money than they need to just because they said something nice about the IPL.

Weren't they stupid to give someone like Jaydev Unadkat 10 crores something?

 

[the_outsider]

None of your problem stick to your pajama league topic is not about PSL

So no star player ever praises PSL or BPL or CPL.

If a star player praises BBL nobody questions anything.

But if ever a player praises IPL immediately haters say they are doing it for money.

How absolutely pathetic.

 

[saeed5646]

So no star player ever praises PSL or BPL or CPL.

If a star player praises BBL nobody questions anything.

But if ever a player praises IPL immediately haters say they are doing it for money.

How absolutely pathetic.

If you are that much desperate watch abd video of joining PSL 2018 it may help you.

If you want more watch 2 time t20 worldcup winner captain Darren sammy view about PSL .

Morgan have also praises PSL .

Want to know more or enough ?

If you want proof google it .it will prove my point

 

[cricketjoshila]

Will repeat again none of your busniess stick to topic .

If you are that much desperate watch abd video of joining PSL 2018 it may help you.

If you want more watch 2 time t20 worldcup winner captain Darren sammy view about PSL .

Morgan have also praises PSL .

Want to know more or enough ?

If you want proof google it .it will prove my point

So how is IPL your business? Why do Pakistanis get to discuss IPL but comparision with PSL is none of our business.LOL. Why are you guys so touchy?

Darren Sammy gets commentary work at the IPL.

Morgan sometimes doesnt even get picked i IPL. How many matches did he play for PSL?

 

[cricketjoshila]

None of your problem stick to your pajama league topic is not about PSL

Ipl is pajama league? What is psl then?

 

[saeed5646]

So how is IPL your business? Why do Pakistanis get to discuss IPL but comparision with PSL is none of our business.LOL. Why are you guys so touchy?

Darren Sammy gets commentary work at the IPL.

Morgan sometimes doesnt even get picked i IPL. How many matches did he play for PSL?

Why not create a seperate thread on PSL so we can discuss on that.Psl is irrevalant in this thread.

Don.t act smart read carefully what he said "how many star player have praise PSL""
Sammy ,ABD and Morgan are proven star so this is what i was referring too .if they are picked by ipl or not it is as nothing to do with there "Star" reputation.

 

[saeed5646]

Ipl is pajama league? What is psl then?

Yeah it is and i stick by it .Psl is too pajama league

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

So no star player ever praises PSL or BPL or CPL.

If a star player praises BBL nobody questions anything.

But if ever a player praises IPL immediately haters say they are doing it for money.

How absolutely pathetic.

For that also blame goes to IPL fans. Have read some of them say things like if international cricket stops IPL can remove the salary cap and all the players will come to India with their tail between their legs.

IPL fans continuously try to show off the amount of money it generates and how it is the richest league. They tell these success stories of average cricketers like Unadkat making easy money. Their whole discussion revolves around money 90% of the time so how can you stop others for pointing it out? You are new here may be that's why you have not seen those posts.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Why not create a seperate thread on PSL so we can discuss on that.Psl is irrevalant in this thread.

Don.t act smart read carefully what he said "how many star player have praise PSL""
Sammy ,ABD and Morgan are proven star so this is what i was referring too .if they are picked by ipl or not it is as nothing to do with there "Star" reputation.

Sammy isnt a star. He doesnt even get picked by WI. Cant play in IPL and commentates there.

AB ofcourse is a star thats why he played Psl only after retirement.

 

[BaankeJi]

In case anyone is interested in talking about original post, Buttler thought IPL had helped him and that is what he said.
And no, it won't help him in getting more money. Or retaining the contract.

This kind of thing wherein someone is talking about himself has to be taken at face value. Nobody can prove anything.
If he says IPL helped him and we have seen him scoring lot of runs after IPL, we have to believe him.

 

[Napa]

Weren't they stupid to give someone like Jaydev Unadkat 10 crores something?

You don't understand how business works. There is something called an "expected value" for future performance. Unadkat's "expected value" was very high, however it turned out to wrong ex-post. Owners are not stupid to increase a player's "expected value" just because he says nice things about the IPL.

Anyway, why even this debate about Buttler's game benefitting from the IPL. Till he performed in the IPL, his international career was almost dead. IPL gave him the second chance.

 

[Darkrai]

Ahmed Shehzad could have used batting in IPL. It would've given him a lot of confidence after his horrendous PSL performance.

 

[saeed5646]

Sammy isnt a star. He doesnt even get picked by WI. Cant play in IPL and commentates there.

AB ofcourse is a star thats why he played Psl only after retirement.

Sammy is proven t20 star who have 2 t20 worldcup for his side as a captain.Morne morkel,Dale steyn and malinga were also unsold in ipl 2018 so they will also become poor player ?ABD may have retire but he is still most demanding cricketer i know it is hard to believe for you but he will play PSL.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Sammy is proven t20 star who have 2 t20 worldcup for his side as a captain.Morne morkel,Dale steyn and malinga were also unsold in ipl 2018 so they will also become poor player ?ABD may have retire but he is still most demanding cricketer i know it is hard to believe for you but he will play PSL.

Sammy is not a star. He is a WI discard.

Most demanding cricketer? Whats that supposed to mean?

Why did ABDV wait till retirement to play psl? He played ipl through out didnt he?

Morkel is retired. Steyn was injured. Malinga was not even picked by Lanka for sometime.

I know its hard for you to accept but PSL isnt a priority league for the real stars.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

You don't understand how business works. There is something called an "expected value" for future performance. Unadkat's "expected value" was very high, however it turned out to wrong ex-post. Owners are not stupid to increase a player's "expected value" just because he says nice things about the IPL.

Anyway, why even this debate about Buttler's game benefitting from the IPL. Till he performed in the IPL, his international career was almost dead. IPL gave him the second chance.

So IPL was started to give chances to players of other countries whereas our own players keep getting injured before important series and play like noobs. Great. Well done.

IPL is a business? I thought it was cricket. Since it is a business it means it also involves money and employees will try their best to praise their bosses to remain in their good books. It all makes sense now.

This is why international cricket is much better. People concentrate on their teams winning not on who is earning what. There are no fake praises.

 

[saeed5646]

Sammy is not a star. He is a WI discard.

Most demanding cricketer? Whats that supposed to mean?

Why did ABDV wait till retirement to play psl? He played ipl through out didnt he?

Morkel is retired. Steyn was injured. Malinga was not even picked by Lanka for sometime.

I know its hard for you to accept but PSL isnt a priority league for the real stars.

Sammy is t20 star no matter how much you deneid it .there are many discarded w.i playing in ipl

Talking about Abd who after retirement still is most demanding cricketer for the league cricket across the world.As the ipl is bench for you to judge a player quality watch him play next year "after Retirement"for RCb with decent money and BTW reports are he may captain the RCB next year so even after retirement he is well recognize player in league cricket.

Neither i am hyping PSL nor i have claim that psl is priority for real Star.it is your desperation to drag psl here

 

[Napa]

So IPL was started to give chances to players of other countries whereas our own players keep getting injured before important series and play like noobs. Great. Well done.

IPL is a business? I thought it was cricket. Since it is a business it means it also involves money and employees will try their best to praise their bosses to remain in their good books. It all makes sense now.

This is why international cricket is much better. People concentrate on their teams winning not on who is earning what. There are no fake praises.

This post is so incredibly naive that I don't know where to start responding. With billions of dollars changing hands, you think IPL and international cricket are not big business? You think in a business the bosses care more about praise than performance? Also note that Buttler was praising IPL as a whole, not the owner of a particular team that will give him a contract.

You are argumentative, you will always come back with a non sequitur. Out of the thousands of IPL contracts, you pull out Unadkat's to "prove" that IPL owners don't base money on performance when awarding contracts. Remember that contracts are auctions, so it is not one particular owner who assessed Undakat to have a high "expected value". When he didn't deliver his contract for the next season promptly went down.

No more replies from me unless I see something intelligent.

 

[BreadPakoda]

IPL Supa Star the lone warrior in alien lands.. #ThankYouIPL

 

[Mamoon]

De Villiers II.

ECB’s conservatism has cost him 3-4 golden years. You don’t hold back players of his calibre; you let them fly.

In my opinion, they need to take the gloves off him and give him the #4 slot in all formats.

 

[Ab Fan]

Great to see him perform in Asia. That is considered as one big test for a non-Asian and till now he has been impressive.

The player to watch for the next 5-6 years across every format of the game.

 

[happydavy]

Perhaps the most important wicket of next year world cup. He can bat at any number from 1 to 7, and can change the game on its head at each of those positions. Hits well against pacers/spinners/new ball/old ball etc.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Great to see him perform in Asia. That is considered as one big test for a non-Asian and till now he has been impressive.

The player to watch for the next 5-6 years across every format of the game.

He lost a major chunk of his test career due to foolish selection. The idea that aggressive LOI players don't do well in tests is stupid to say the least, Warner buried it 10 years ago.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Need to play more IPL

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Need to play more IPL

Should play from two teams in one season.

 

[BreadPakoda]

Is Butler part of the IPL this time around?

Btw where are the losers who were saying Kohli will fail in England’18 because he played IPL just before the series (you know who you are )? Kohli the batsman nailed that series.

 

[Rajdeep]

Is Butler part of the IPL this time around?

Btw where are the losers who were saying Kohli will fail in England’18 because he played IPL just before the series (you know who you are )? Kohli the batsman nailed that series.

Yes Butler will open for Rajasthan Royals along with Yashasvi Jaiswal.