Justin Trudeau in India: Is the Canadian PM being cold-shouldered?

[mmkextreme_1]

Just imagine if the President of the United States was treated like this.....

Heck if Donald Trump was treating like this......the visiting country would be facing the full "fire and fury" of the Donald himself

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Your actions speak louder than your words. If Liberal mindset means tolerating Sikh right wing extremism because it gets you votes then one of us is very much mistaken about what liberal mindset means. It's easy to say people kind rather than mankind but a bit more difficult to ask your vote base to pipedown on extremism.

His whole visit is basically a pandering to Indian expats in Canada, he is here for a week but it includes 1 day or may be half a day of actual government to government talks. It's mostly visiting Gujrat and Punjab none of that will get him what he has allegedly come to India for unless he is basically spending Canadian exchequer money to score brownie points with base at home.

Why is Sikh right wing extremism considered a dirty word in India, whereas Hindu right wing extremism is seen as the second coming? Didn't Sikhs have legitimate grievances which led to the Golden Temple massacre?

 

[www787]

How about you guys keep the Bible belt and places like Texas and Florida while we merge with NY, Vermont, Michigan, Minnesota, Illinois, Wisconsin etc

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[Syed1]

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Ironically I cannot watch that video in Canada it says: "The uploader has not made this video available in your country"

 

[mmkextreme_1]

How about you guys keep the Bible belt and places like Texas and Florida while we merge with NY, Vermont, Michigan, Minnesota, Illinois, Wisconsin etc

There can be additions to the Union but no breakage from it.

The Union must be preserved

 

[www787]

Ironically I cannot watch that video in Canada it says: "The uploader has not made this video available in your country"

perks of being Canadian, you get isolated

if you are interested, youtube the title, its funny, Bill Burr is one of my fav comedian.

 

[jagatk]

Why is Sikh right wing extremism considered a dirty word in India, whereas Hindu right wing extremism is seen as the second coming? Didn't Sikhs have legitimate grievances which led to the Golden Temple massacre?

Who said anything about hindu extremism and what has that got to do with Trudeau or Canada? Sikhs who actually live in india don't want Khalistan and are not mistreated in anyway today. The whole sikh extremism is based out of india, you still wonder why india would have a problem with that. This isn't a kashmir or Balochistan issue where there are internal elements.

AAP which was a sureshot to win in punjab got trounced badly because the idiots decided to cozy up to NRI's and their agenda for their funding. Thats how Khalistan issue is viewed in Punjab. Trudeau masquerades as some sort of hip liberal but the base he panders to and whose actions he decidedly overlooks isn't any better than Trump's.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Who said anything about hindu extremism and what has that got to do with Trudeau or Canada? Sikhs who actually live in india don't want Khalistan and are not mistreated in anyway today. The whole sikh extremism is based out of india, you still wonder why india would have a problem with that. This isn't a kashmir or Balochistan issue where there are internal elements.

AAP which was a sureshot to win in punjab got trounced badly because the idiots decided to cozy up to NRI's and their agenda for their funding. Thats how Khalistan issue is viewed in Punjab. Trudeau masquerades as some sort of hip liberal but the base he panders to and whose actions he decidedly overlooks isn't any better than Trump's.

you complained about right wing extremist Sikh views, and this is a thread about the Indian govt reception of Canada's PM, the Indian govt having right wing extremist Hindu connections. So I was just wondering why one is considered undesirable, and the other is championed as righteous and good.

If you are going to use labels like right wing extremist, why not be fair and apply evenly?

 

[jagatk]

you complained about right wing extremist Sikh views, and this is a thread about the Indian govt reception of Canada's PM, the Indian govt having right wing extremist Hindu connections. So I was just wondering why one is considered undesirable, and the other is championed as righteous and good.

If you are going to use labels like right wing extremist, why not be fair and apply evenly?

This thread about alleged cold shoulder to Trudeau, which it wasn't by the way he just isn't big enough to break protocol for. I just gave reasons why it happened.

About labels if you want correct labels terrorist sympathizers would be the perfect label for the part of the sikh base that Trudeau tries buttering up. This has nothing to do with Indian Right wing nor does RSS openly love and support terrorists who blow airplanes, posters of which could be found at events Mr. Trudeau attended in Canada.

 

[BreadPakoda]

Which right wing extremism has Trudeau endorsed?
And who are the terrorists that he sympathises with? I’m getting confused.

 

[BreadPakoda]

Does a non-violent separatist movement also come under terrorism?

What about killing someone over his religion/choice of food/choice of spouse? Does that come under terrorism?

So many questions....

 

[TM Riddle]

Umm yeah Air India bombing was a part of the non violent campaign that overseas Sikhs undertook to make their voices hear over the demand of separation from India.
Some people honestlyh

 

[jagatk]

Does a non-violent separatist movement also come under terrorism?

What about killing someone over his religion/choice of food/choice of spouse? Does that come under terrorism?

So many questions....

Google Air India Flight 182 all your questions about non violent separatist movement with no support from people who actually live in land they want it separated from will be answered.

 

[BreadPakoda]

Google Air India Flight 182 all your questions about non violent separatist movement with no support from people who actually live in land they want it separated from will be answered.

So you will hold them against something that happened decades ago? Google 1984 riots. Is India a terrorist nation for what happened in 1984?

 

[BreadPakoda]

Umm yeah Air India bombing was a part of the non violent campaign that overseas Sikhs undertook to make their voices hear over the demand of separation from India.
Some people honestlyh

What does state sponsored terorism against Sikhs in 1984 make India?

 

[CricketCartoons]

So you will hold them against something that happened decades ago? Google 1984 riots. Is India a terrorist nation for what happened in 1984?

Yes, if congress = india. which was right at least for the last 60 years. congress has a genocide on its hands.

 

[BreadPakoda]

Yes, if congress = india. which was right at last for the last 60 years. congress has a genocide on its hands.

So India was a terrorist nation for 60 years?
Also, the perpetrator of the riots still roam free, what justice has been provided to the Sikhs by any other ruling party?

 

[jagatk]

So you will hold them against something that happened decades ago? Google 1984 riots. Is India a terrorist nation for what happened in 1984?

I don't hold that against them genius, I hold them glorifying the man behind the tragedy against them. Trudeau attended events with posters calling for khalistan and praising the terrorist. India has never had great relations with Canada and khalistan is a big issue, another big politician after Trudeau Jagmeet Singh couldn't even condemn the terrorist behind the attack.

Do you think any country would be nice to a another country's PM who attends events with posters glorifying a terrorist who has affected that country.

 

[BreadPakoda]

I don't hold that against them genius, I hold them glorifying the man behind the tragedy against them. Trudeau attended events with posters calling for khalistan and praising the terrorist. India has never had great relations with Canada and khalistan is a big issue, another big politician after Trudeau Jagmeet Singh couldn't even condemn the terrorist behind the attack.

Do you think any country would be nice to a another country's PM who attends events with posters glorifying a terrorist who has affected that country.

Better than a country putting perpetrators of riots in positions of power later on, failing to provide justice to the bereaved.
What does that make India?

 

[CricketCartoons]

So India was a terrorist nation for 60 years?
Also, the perpetrator of the riots still roam free, what justice has been provided to the Sikhs by any other ruling party?

Congress was a genocider party in the 80s. It was not fringe elements, but the top leaders who were instrumental in the genocide.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Better than a country putting perpetrators of riots in positions of power later on, failing to provide justice to the bereaved.
What does that make India?

Who are those rioters in power now? They have been thrown out of power after BJP was elected.

 

[jagatk]

What does state sponsored terorism against Sikhs in 1984 make India?

This is what happens when people don't know their **** and think they know it.

1984 was a culmination of **** from both sides, I won't deny 1984. But people act like it was an anomaly, the amount of Hindu deaths in Punjab was much higher during the Hindu-Sikh issue than Sikh deaths in Delhi.

I am not condoning what happened but there was cause and effect and yes justice wasn't done but it is in the past now. People have moved on for most part from those events. The morons in Trudeau's base haven't and they aren't even Indians is my issue.

 

[BreadPakoda]

This is what happens when people don't know their **** and think they know it.

1984 was a culmination of **** from both sides, I won't deny 1984. But people act like it was an anomaly, the amount of Hindu deaths in Punjab was much higher during the Hindu-Sikh issue than Sikh deaths in Delhi.

I am not condoning what happened but there was cause and effect and yes justice wasn't done but it is in the past now. People have moved on for most part from those events. The morons in Trudeau's base haven't and they aren't even Indians is my issue.

Who are you to decide that people have moved on?

 

[jagatk]

Who are you to decide that people have moved on?

For starters I have spent a decade in Punjab and Delhi. I know enough people to say people have moved on. It doesn't mean people have forgiven those responsible just that it isn't a big issue any more, no one in Punjab wants khalistan. Hindu Sikh relations couldn't be better for most part.

 

[TM Riddle]

So you will hold them against something that happened decades ago? Google 1984 riots. Is India a terrorist nation for what happened in 1984?

Earlier I was against the Golden Temple raid but after reading a lot on the subject my views on it have changed.
If you are a terrorist you will meet the end of Bhindravale. No matter if you hide in Harmandir Sahib , Jama Masjid or Kashi Vishwanath temple.
No religious structure is bigger than the security of the country. Plain and Simple.

 

[jagatk]

Any way it's getting late. You can keep drumming about events from 40 years ago but they don't matter to people outside Trudeau's base and if he can't rein them in, India quite rightly isn't going to be happy about it.

 

[KingKhanWC]

This is what happens when people don't know their **** and think they know it.

1984 was a culmination of **** from both sides, I won't deny 1984. But people act like it was an anomaly, the amount of Hindu deaths in Punjab was much higher during the Hindu-Sikh issue than Sikh deaths in Delhi.

I am not condoning what happened but there was cause and effect and yes justice wasn't done but it is in the past now. People have moved on for most part from those events. The morons in Trudeau's base haven't and they aren't even Indians is my issue.

Your government riddled the most holy Sikh building with bullets. Is this something you think was right to do and do you really expect Sikhs to forget this?

 

[KingKhanWC]

Earlier I was against the Golden Temple raid but after reading a lot on the subject my views on it have changed.
If you are a terrorist you will meet the end of Bhindravale. No matter if you hide in Harmandir Sahib , Jama Masjid or Kashi Vishwanath temple.
No religious structure is bigger than the security of the country. Plain and Simple.

You're not a Sikh so it's no surprise you wont have the same feelings as them. The bloke wasn't going to hide inside forever, he soon would have come out. It was the most stupid move by the Indian government and I can see why many Sikhs hate India now.

 

[TM Riddle]

You're not a Sikh so it's no surprise you wont have the same feelings as them. The bloke wasn't going to hide inside forever, he soon would have come out. It was the most stupid move by the Indian government and I can see why many Sikhs hate India now.

National security trumps everything. If any Hindu extremist is hiding in some big temple with weaponry stockpiled inside and Govt decides to attack the structure , I will fully support the move.
But I can see why you would be so worried about him.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I still dont understan what right do Canadians have to demand anything in India?

 

[BreadPakoda]

For starters I have spent a decade in Punjab and Delhi. I know enough people to say people have moved on. It doesn't mean people have forgiven those responsible just that it isn't a big issue any more, no one in Punjab wants khalistan. Hindu Sikh relations couldn't be better for most part.

People cant truly move on until they get justice. I’m not talking about the movement, but the innocent people who had absolutely nothing to do with a Khalistan but were brutally massacred. You do seem like a jingoist hardliner, wont be surprised if people avoid opening up with you on such issues.

 

[Pakistanian]

I still dont understan what right do Canadians have to demand anything in India?

Human rights.

 

[TM Riddle]

Hindus were massacred by Khalistani Terrorists too but you don't hear any of them raising hue and cry over it. What happened was in past. Just move on. Nobody gets justice in this country. That's just how it is.
Waisey I have heard SC has reopened the 1984 riots case and constituted a SIT to look on the Issue. Let's see what happens.

 

[TM Riddle]

I still dont understan what right do Canadians have to demand anything in India?

Kuch nahin do din ka jhamela h.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Human rights.

Foreigners in another country have no right to poke their nose in another country.

 

[Napa]

He is just reflecting the liberal mindset and culture of western society in general, and his country in particular. No doubt India can teach Canadians a lot about treatment of minorities and women's rights. Perhaps he will use this visit to learn some civilising culture from the east which he can take back with him to the west.

I won't say India has a whole lot to teach Canada about women's rights, but the rest of the West is different. The "rape rate per 100,000" for India is 1.8, about the same as Canada (1.7), but other countries like Sweden (63.5), USA (27.3), UK (17) etc. are off the charts. Some would include SA (132) in the West.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics#By_country

If you are concerned about underreporting, then consider Obama's statement that 25% of US female undergrads are sexually assaulted during their undergrad years. That would translate to 6,250 per 100,000 for the US rather than 27.3. Even if rapes in India are underreported by a factor of 10 (unlikely), it still only gets to 18.

It should not be surprising that the rate is so low for India. Traditionally in Hinduism women have occupied a high place, with many female goddesses etc. Isolated events of course occur in a country of 1,300 million but the average is very good for women. From my personal experience the demographic that gets the most respect and consideration in India are older women who are usually referred to as "Mataji".

As for minorities, India has historically be a refuge for minorities fleeing oppression, whether they be Jews, Bohras, Ahmediyas, Bahais, Parsees etc. etc. In recent times it has attracted many refugees from Afghanistan and economic migrants from Bangladesh.

 

[www787]

Foreigners in another country have no right to poke their nose in another country.

no one listen to you, every country does it, including India.

 

[Pakistanian]

Foreigners in another country have no right to poke their nose in another country.

We can also say that a Bengalihas no right to comment on the affairs of Punjab and Kashmir, no?

 

[Napa]

I won't say India has a whole lot to teach Canada about women's rights, but the rest of the West is different. The "rape rate per 100,000" for India is 1.8, about the same as Canada (1.7), but other countries like Sweden (63.5), USA (27.3), UK (17) etc. are off the charts. Some would include SA (132) in the West.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics#By_country

If you are concerned about underreporting, then consider Obama's statement that 25% of US female undergrads are sexually assaulted during their undergrad years. That would translate to 6,250 per 100,000 for the US rather than 27.3. Even if rapes in India are underreported by a factor of 10 (unlikely), it still only gets to 18.

It should not be surprising that the rate is so low for India. Traditionally in Hinduism women have occupied a high place, with many female goddesses etc. Isolated events of course occur in a country of 1,300 million but the average is very good for women. From my personal experience the demographic that gets the most respect and consideration in India are older women who are usually referred to as "Mataji".

As for minorities, India has historically be a refuge for minorities fleeing oppression, whether they be Jews, Bohras, Ahmediyas, Bahais, Parsees etc. etc. In recent times it has attracted many refugees from Afghanistan and economic migrants from Bangladesh.

There is quite a misconception that India is unsafe for women, a misconception based on a few incidents that get a lot of media attention. However, in a large country of 1,300 million people a few criminals will always be present. The data says that India is one of the safest countries in the world for women, something consistent with my own experience.

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[KingKhanWC]

There is quite a misconception that India is unsafe for women, a misconception based on a few incidents that get a lot of media attention. However, in a large country of 1,300 million people a few criminals will always be present. The data says that India is one of the safest countries in the world for women, something consistent with my own experience.

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You are misleading yourself here. In India it is very much a big stigma to report you have been raped. Since the horrific Delhi attack on the bus, the rate of reported rapes have increased which should be seen as a positive if more women are reporting such abuse now.

You cannot make such a poor blanket statement saying it's a misconception India is unsafe for women. You have over 100 million child prostitution, an epidemic of sexual assaults and not to mention the level of female infanticide. It's a better and fair generalisation to say India is one of the worst places to be a woman.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

This thread about alleged cold shoulder to Trudeau, which it wasn't by the way he just isn't big enough to break protocol for. I just gave reasons why it happened.

About labels if you want correct labels terrorist sympathizers would be the perfect label for the part of the sikh base that Trudeau tries buttering up. This has nothing to do with Indian Right wing nor does RSS openly love and support terrorists who blow airplanes, posters of which could be found at events Mr. Trudeau attended in Canada.

The leader of India's ruling party was himself banned from the USA for 10 years for his part in the religious massacres in the Gujarat riots which were far more recent than the Sikh extremism you mentioned. If you are going to go down that road, then at least be prepared to look at it with both eyes open instead of squinting sideways.

 

[cricketjoshila]

We can also say that a Bengalihas no right to comment on the affairs of Punjab and Kashmir, no?

Both are part of India so an Indian can very well comment on anything that is part of his country.

You as a foreigner rather have no job poking your nose in Indian affairs.

Btw who is this WE?

 

[cricketjoshila]

The leader of India's ruling party was himself banned from the USA for 10 years for his part in the religious massacres in the Gujarat riots which were far more recent than the Sikh extremism you mentioned. If you are going to go down that road, then at least be prepared to look at it with both eyes open instead of squinting sideways.

He was refused a visa once in 2005. Never again. He was at that point in time facing charges from which he was exonerated in 2012.

Trudeau is free to do whatever he wants in Canada. We are free to give him only as much protocol as we agreed to. He has any issues, well he has his plane with him, doesnt he?

 

[JaDed]

You are misleading yourself here. In India it is very much a big stigma to report you have been raped. Since the horrific Delhi attack on the bus, the rate of reported rapes have increased which should be seen as a positive if more women are reporting such abuse now.

You cannot make such a poor blanket statement saying it's a misconception India is unsafe for women. You have over 100 million child prostitution, an epidemic of sexual assaults and not to mention the level of female infanticide. It's a better and fair generalisation to say India is one of the worst places to be a woman.

Have you been to India or do you live in India?Its remarkable how you select data as per your need,you tell him not to make a blanket statement and then go on to make a generalization.

 

[JaDed]

You're not a Sikh so it's no surprise you wont have the same feelings as them. The bloke wasn't going to hide inside forever, he soon would have come out. It was the most stupid move by the Indian government and I can see why many Sikhs hate India now.

You ain't no Sikh either so how do you know what they feel?

 

[TM Riddle]

Was quite hilarious watching Trudeau suck up to Captain Amrinder.

 

[TM Riddle]

Canadian Pappu took part in cooking food for langar in the Golden temple. My God this guy is annoying

 

[JaDed]

Canadian Pappu took part in cooking food for langar in the Golden temple. My God this guy is annoying

What was even more annoying was the guy was treated like a celebrity within the Temple,so much for equality.

 

[TM Riddle]

What was even more annoying was the guy was treated like a celebrity within the Temple,so much for equality.

He makes even Rahul Gandhi look like a Leader of Masses. This tops the Janeu episode.

 

[CricketCartoons]

He makes even Rahul Gandhi look like a Leader of Masses. This tops the Janeu episode.

This darling of the instagram generation should be sent to spend some time under the private tutelage of Putin. Would teach him how to behave like a man with a backbone. what an embarrassment for canada.

 

[Gubol123]

Its easy to preach when you have 1/10th of population and 3 times more land, and not even one fourth of different religions and not any conquered invasions past not many years ago ,and more than double of resources oresenr.
I bet no other country in the whole planet could have sustain like india given all the factors and olus if we take past factor as well.we are really proud to be indians.

more like 1/35th the population and more than three times the land.. So Canada has approximately 105 times resources per capita compared to India..

 

[Napa]

You are misleading yourself here. In India it is very much a big stigma to report you have been raped.

You have no idea what Indian women are like. You mess with them, you are likely to end up being sorry. Sheila Dixit, Jayalalitha, Mamta Banerjee, Nikki Haley, Indira Gandhi, Indra Nooyi, Mayawati etc. are a few examples of fearless Indian women.

Since the horrific Delhi attack on the bus, the rate of reported rapes have increased which should be seen as a positive if more women are reporting such abuse now.

So the rate has risen from 1.8 to 2.2, big deal! Still a long long way behind Pakistan (28) or the US (6,250 according to Obama).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics#By_country

You cannot make such a poor blanket statement saying it's a misconception India is unsafe for women. You have over 100 million child prostitution, an epidemic of sexual assaults and not to mention the level of female infanticide.

What??? Do you even have a ridiculous cite for this delusional figure?

It's a better and fair generalisation to say India is one of the worst places to be a woman.

Yes, let's ignore what the data says about the real world, and keep believing in our favorite delusions.

 

[Napa]

Just imagine if the President of the United States was treated like this.....

Heck if Donald Trump was treating like this......the visiting country would be facing the full "fire and fury" of the Donald himself

Trump is not stupid enough to go to countries who don't want him. He opted to avoid the UK due to the possibility of public protests.

 

[jagatk]

People cant truly move on until they get justice. I’m not talking about the movement, but the innocent people who had absolutely nothing to do with a Khalistan but were brutally massacred. You do seem like a jingoist hardliner, wont be surprised if people avoid opening up with you on such issues.

There is factual and anecdotal data to clearly show that Sikhs in India don't want Khalistan, but since it doesn't fit your imaginary India is Evil image i am a hardliner.

 

[jagatk]

You are misleading yourself here. In India it is very much a big stigma to report you have been raped. Since the horrific Delhi attack on the bus, the rate of reported rapes have increased which should be seen as a positive if more women are reporting such abuse now.

You cannot make such a poor blanket statement saying it's a misconception India is unsafe for women. You have over 100 million child prostitution, an epidemic of sexual assaults and not to mention the level of female infanticide. It's a better and fair generalisation to say India is one of the worst places to be a woman.

100 million like seriously, so you are saying that 74% of our current population are not only children but also been forced into prostitution.

India is not the worst place to be a woman unless you hate india which you clearly seem to. We don't have a great record with women safety or protection is something i agree to and we need to do better, but the whole rapes thing was blown way out of proportion. India as a whole is in no way any more unsafe for woman than most countries, lot more conservative definitely but not unsafe.

 

[R3verse Swing]

I have tears of laughter down my face after reading how BJP apologists believe Sikhs have forgotten 1984. It’s a complete joke. It’s like saying Jews have forgotten World War 2. Has India forgotten the partition on both sides of their country? Of course not! Have Muslims in Gujrat forgotten Modi? Of course not!

As it has been mentioned, the Indian PM was banned from entering the USA & UK– simply because India has (and still does) carry out religious terrorism in their country.

The gall of Indians to expect the world and the victims/families to forget.

Well done to the Canadian PM in reminding the world of the atrocities in India. Personally, his visit to Amritsar and Gujrat were a master stroke, it has everyone talking about reality of India.

 

[CricketCartoons]

I have tears of laughter down my face after reading how BJP apologists believe Sikhs have forgotten 1984. It’s a complete joke. It’s like saying Jews have forgotten World War 2. Has India forgotten the partition on both sides of their country? Of course not! Have Muslims in Gujrat forgotten Modi? Of course not!

As it has been mentioned, the Indian PM was banned from entering the USA & UK– simply because India has (and still does) carry out religious terrorism in their country.

The gall of Indians to expect the world and the victims/families to forget.

Well done to the Canadian PM in reminding the world of the atrocities in India. Personally, his visit to Amritsar and Gujrat were a master stroke, it has everyone talking about reality of India.

It would be congress apologists who would downplay 1984. Thanks to BJP, we have a clean party ruling the country instead of the anti sikh congress. Respect to Modi ji grows each day. Proud Hindu!!

 

[TM Riddle]

Why would bjp apologists make excuses for 1984? It was a Congress sponsored programme ***. Ignorance of some posters here is astonishing!

 

[R3verse Swing]

BJP apologists trying hard to protect the fake image of secularism in India.

Hopefully the penny will drop.

 

[CricketCartoons]

BJP apologists trying hard to protect the fake image of secularism in India.

Hopefully the penny will drop.

India will remain secular as long as Hindus remain in power. Hindus are secular by nature.

 

[akki]

BJP apologists trying hard to protect the fake image of secularism in India.

Hopefully the penny will drop.

We dnt take opinions of islamic state to tell us who is secular or not. Its like same as wolf teaching elephant to be herbivores...

 

[akki]

I have tears of laughter down my face after reading how BJP apologists believe Sikhs have forgotten 1984. It’s a complete joke. It’s like saying Jews have forgotten World War 2. Has India forgotten the partition on both sides of their country? Of course not! Have Muslims in Gujrat forgotten Modi? Of course not!

As it has been mentioned, the Indian PM was banned from entering the USA & UK– simply because India has (and still does) carry out religious terrorism in their country.

The gall of Indians to expect the world and the victims/families to forget.

Well done to the Canadian PM in reminding the world of the atrocities in India. Personally, his visit to Amritsar and Gujrat were a master stroke, it has everyone talking about reality of India.

No country in the world has dare to dictate india anything . Face of what ? You lost all the wars to india ,very much credit goes to sikhs. Go and read your army generals books which says it was sikh who were real pain in the ***.
Sikhs contribute the most to india in each dimension. They are right now protecting borders of india at the same time when you are laughing.......its a matter of time ,we hindus or i wud say indians gave the concept of karma to the world and i am sure law of nature will balance everything as it used to be once .

 

[R3verse Swing]

We dnt take opinions of islamic state to tell us who is secular or not. Its like same as wolf teaching elephant to be herbivores...

Deal with it. If you want India to pretend to be some kind of upcoming super power, then prepare for criticism. The reality is of course if it was a White Brit who said the same thing you would then come out with a *Fair & Lovely* response.

Pakistanis knows Indians better than anybody else on this earth. This is what really upsets you.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Deal with it. If you want India to pretend to be some kind of upcoming super power, then prepare for criticism. The reality is of course if it was a White Brit who said the same thing you would then come out with a *Fair & Lovely* response.

Pakistanis knows Indians better than anybody else on this earth. This is what really upsets you.

We are dealing with it. It is just entertainment, nothing else. With love to all hinduphobes.

 

[jagatk]

I have tears of laughter down my face after reading how BJP apologists believe Sikhs have forgotten 1984. It’s a complete joke. It’s like saying Jews have forgotten World War 2. Has India forgotten the partition on both sides of their country? Of course not! Have Muslims in Gujrat forgotten Modi? Of course not!

As it has been mentioned, the Indian PM was banned from entering the USA & UK– simply because India has (and still does) carry out religious terrorism in their country.

The gall of Indians to expect the world and the victims/families to forget.

Well done to the Canadian PM in reminding the world of the atrocities in India. Personally, his visit to Amritsar and Gujrat were a master stroke, it has everyone talking about reality of India.

Your stupidity knows no bounds, why are trolls allowed to basically derails threads i will never understand. Trudeau visited Golden temple and gujrat to score brownie points with the Sikh and Gujrati expats in Canada and other than a few pakistanis in a thread about India snubbing trudeau are talking about reality of india, a country they have actually never lived in.

Netanyahu visited India a month back and went with modi to gujrat, was he also trying to show everyone the real india?

 

[akki]

Deal with it. If you want India to pretend to be some kind of upcoming super power, then prepare for criticism. The reality is of course if it was a White Brit who said the same thing you would then come out with a *Fair & Lovely* response.

Pakistanis knows Indians better than anybody else on this earth. This is what really upsets you.

Yeah you know us the most as you are only us as same DNA.,same backround ,belongs to same akhand bhaarat so yeah there is no reason why you guys wont know us the most.

 

[R3verse Swing]

Your stupidity knows no bounds, why are trolls allowed to basically derails threads i will never understand. Trudeau visited Golden temple and gujrat to score brownie points with the Sikh and Gujrati expats in Canada and other than a few pakistanis in a thread about India snubbing trudeau is talking about it.


Netanyahu visited India a month back and went with modi to gujrat, was he also trying to show everyone the real india?

How is the Canadian PM visit to Gujrat and Amritsar derailing the subject? Did you even read the OP? Is it a coincidence that the atrocities of 1984 and 2002 just so happen to be in Amritsar and Gujrat?

As for Netanyahu, did he not visit the Mumbai where the Mumbai attacks of 2008 occurred in reference to the loss of Jewish lives? Beginning to understand now? Oh we mustn't forget the Mumbai attacks, and Netanyahu made sure of it. How are Netanyahu actions any different to Justin Trudeau?

Go back to school and understand what AWARENESS means.

 

[CricketCartoons]

How is the Canadian PM visit to Gujrat and Amritsar derailing the subject? Did you even read the OP? Is it a coincidence that the atrocities of 1984 and 2002 just so happen to be in Amritsar and Gujrat?

As for Netanyahu, did he not visit the Mumbai where the Mumbai attacks of 2008 occurred in reference to the loss of Jewish lives? Beginning to understand now? Oh we mustn't forget the Mumbai attacks, and Netanyahu made sure of it. How are Netanyahu actions any different to Justin Trudeau?

Go back to school and understand what AWARENESS means.

All this awareness means jack. May trudeaus keep visiting amritsar and gujrat, nothing is going to change. The world is aware of syria which is happening right now. Call me up when something changes.

 

[jagatk]

How is the Canadian PM visit to Gujrat and Amritsar derailing the subject? Did you even read the OP? Is it a coincidence that the atrocities of 1984 and 2002 just so happen to be in Amritsar and Gujrat?

As for Netanyahu, did he not visit the Mumbai where the Mumbai attacks of 2008 occurred in reference to the loss of Jewish lives? Beginning to understand now? Oh we mustn't forget the Mumbai attacks, and Netanyahu made sure of it. How are Netanyahu actions any different to Justin Trudeau?

Go back to school and understand what AWARENESS means.

Ok seriously, so a Israel PM visits a memorial where jews were targeted by terrorists is same as Trudeau visiting a holy place of a big percentage of his voting base is same thing? Cameroon also visited amritsar was that too to shame india about 1984?

Gujrat visit is even more LoL worthy, is Trudeau meeting Gujarat CM to protest the Gujrat Riots? He is there to drum up money from indian businesses and government to invest in Canada, not everything is a conspiracy dude.

 

[akki]

How is the Canadian PM visit to Gujrat and Amritsar derailing the subject? Did you even read the OP? Is it a coincidence that the atrocities of 1984 and 2002 just so happen to be in Amritsar and Gujrat?

As for Netanyahu, did he not visit the Mumbai where the Mumbai attacks of 2008 occurred in reference to the loss of Jewish lives? Beginning to understand now? Oh we mustn't forget the Mumbai attacks, and Netanyahu made sure of it. How are Netanyahu actions any different to Justin Trudeau?

Go back to school and understand what AWARENESS means.

Canda is second punjab for us. We punjabis take it as going to another punjab. So due to elections and all,his visit to punjab is all common sense plus there are lot of gujratis as well in canada. So there is not much to guess why he only visited these two places. Or who gives a damn to canada p.m man ? Every other country leader in the world comes to india every second day. So what's the big deal..

 

[R3verse Swing]

Ok seriously, so a Israel PM visits a memorial where jews were targeted by terrorists is same as Trudeau visiting a holy place of a big percentage of his voting base is same thing? Cameroon also visited amritsar was that too to shame india about 1984?

Gujrat visit is even more LoL worthy, is Trudeau meeting Gujarat CM to protest the Gujrat Riots? He is there to drum up money from indian businesses and government to invest in Canada, not everything is a conspiracy dude.

Oh I see.

- Sikhs Should forget 1984.
- Muslims should forget 2002.
- Jews should never forget 2008.

WOW!

Get a grip and read the OP. Seriously, read up on Trudeau cabinet and Sikh representation on his visit (all in the OP) then you will understand the relevance and WHY Trudeau was given the cold shoulder. You might also understand the purpose behind the visits to Amritsar and Gujrat instead of losing the plot. This is politics, Trudeau is hitting to birds with one stone.

Simply put, Trudeau is not protesting against anything. Do you understand what protesting means? Trudeau’s visits are all about awareness and opportunity.

READ THE OP.

 

[jagatk]

Canda is second punjab for us. We punjabis take it as going to another punjab. So due to elections and all,his visit to punjab is all common sense plus there are lot of gujratis as well in canada. So there is not much to guess why he only visited these two places. Or who gives a damn to canada p.m man ? Every other country leader in the world comes to india every second day. So what's the big deal..

Cmon mate thats not the truth, every time anyone visits india it is to protest against india and try and show the world the reality of the zionist new world order harboring lizard people worshipping india.

 

[jagatk]

Oh I see.

- Sikhs Should forget 1984.
- Muslims should forget 2002.
- Jews should never forget 2008.

WOW!

Get a grip and read the OP. Seriously, read up on Trudeau cabinet and Sikh representation on his visit (all in the OP) then you will understand the relevance and WHY Trudeau was given the cold shoulder. You might also understand the purpose behind the visits to Amritsar and Gujrat instead of losing the plot. This is politics, Trudeau is hitting to birds with one stone.

Simply put, Trudeau is not protesting against anything. Do you understand what protesting means? Trudeau’s visits are all about awareness and opportunity.

READ THE OP.

You can take your birds and conspiracies and keep parroting it, i am out. There is no discussing with trolls.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Oh I see.

- Sikhs Should forget 1984.
- Muslims should forget 2002.
- Jews should never forget 2008.

WOW!

Get a grip and read the OP. Seriously, read up on Trudeau cabinet and Sikh representation on his visit (all in the OP) then you will understand the relevance and WHY Trudeau was given the cold shoulder. You might also understand the purpose behind the visits to Amritsar and Gujrat instead of losing the plot. This is politics, Trudeau is hitting to birds with one stone.

Simply put, Trudeau is not protesting against anything. Do you understand what protesting means? Trudeau’s visits are all about awareness and opportunity.

READ THE OP.

If Trudeau is actually spreading awareness as you think you know, he should visit Syria. Maybe that will help save some lives, instead of wasting taxpayers money with no outcome. What a coward he must be to not help spread awareness for what is happening right now.

 

[R3verse Swing]

You can take your birds and conspiracies and keep parroting it, i am out. There is no discussing with trolls.

Well that's your call, but frankly speaking you should read the OP in full before making irrelevant comments.

Hiding behind the excuse of trolls when you cannot argue a point [without read the OP) doesn't mask the deficiency of others, it only exposes the claimant's deficiency.

 

[akki]

Cmon mate thats not the truth, every time anyone visits india it is to protest against india and try and show the world the reality of the zionist new world order harboring lizard people worshipping india.

Yeah seriously man some people dnt even use their common sense before giving any logic

 

[www787]

Trudeau planned choreographed wearing groom dresses is just over the top. It seems he is trying too hard. It is almost annoying. If there was no other reason for Modi to give him cold shoulder then this should be sufficient enough.

 

[Bewal Express]

For starters I have spent a decade in Punjab and Delhi. I know enough people to say people have moved on. It doesn't mean people have forgiven those responsible just that it isn't a big issue any more, no one in Punjab wants khalistan. Hindu Sikh relations couldn't be better for most part.

How many people went to prison for murdering Sikhs after Mrs Gandhis death?

 

[English August]

Without getting into the politics of these things, have to say this guy is totally enjoying himself with his family. Everywhere he goes, he is seen wearing color-coordinated outfits along with his full family. All ethnically inspired mind you, so would have taken weeks to prep.

Not sure what the Canadians feel about their PM taking an all-expenses-paid vacation with his family on tax payers' dime.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Without getting into the politics of these things, have to say this guy is totally enjoying himself with his family. Everywhere he goes, he is seen wearing color-coordinated outfits along with his full family. All ethnically inspired mind you, so would have taken weeks to prep.

Not sure what the Canadians feel about their PM taking an all-expenses-paid vacation with his family on tax payers' dime.

If they're anything like Brits, I doubt they are aware of Indian PP member views on Khalistan 1984 movement so they probably just think he's on a business trip to India.