Justin Trudeau in India: Is the Canadian PM being cold-shouldered?

[Saeed]

Amazing scenes, red carpet rolled out for him too so he is definitely liked by the people. Sad to see Indian government treating him like this when the people like him.

 

[faraz39]

For Canadians, Trudeau has done more good than bad and I'd likely vote for him (or Jagmeet Singh) in the next elections. Also, as a Muslim or visible minority Canadian, I'd rather have someone like Trudeau than Trump anytime.

 

[English August]

If they're anything like Brits, I doubt they are aware of Indian PP member views on Khalistan 1984 movement so they probably just think he's on a business trip to India.

I wouldn't pretend to know his full itinerary, but so far I have seen his pictures in front of the Tajmahal, inside Harmandir Sahib / Golden Temple, inside a Hindu temple (in Gujarat I think; could be Delhi -- not sure) and with a few Bollywood celebrities.

Nice way to conduct "business" must say! But then Canada is a rich country. They wouldn't mind paying for their PM's pursuits in tourism. I think he's earned it.

 

[Slog]

I won't say India has a whole lot to teach Canada about women's rights, but the rest of the West is different. The "rape rate per 100,000" for India is 1.8, about the same as Canada (1.7), but other countries like Sweden (63.5), USA (27.3), UK (17) etc. are off the charts. Some would include SA (132) in the West.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics#By_country

If you are concerned about underreporting, then consider Obama's statement that 25% of US female undergrads are sexually assaulted during their undergrad years. That would translate to 6,250 per 100,000 for the US rather than 27.3. Even if rapes in India are underreported by a factor of 10 (unlikely), it still only gets to 18.

It should not be surprising that the rate is so low for India. Traditionally in Hinduism women have occupied a high place, with many female goddesses etc. Isolated events of course occur in a country of 1,300 million but the average is very good for women. From my personal experience the demographic that gets the most respect and consideration in India are older women who are usually referred to as "Mataji".

As for minorities, India has historically be a refuge for minorities fleeing oppression, whether they be Jews, Bohras, Ahmediyas, Bahais, Parsees etc. etc. In recent times it has attracted many refugees from Afghanistan and economic migrants from Bangladesh.

Poor point

In India actual physical harassment counts as sexual harassment whereas in the US a drunk guy accidentally brushing against a girl from behind at a frat party can also termed as an harassment incident whereas no one would count it as such in India.

So not an apples to apples comparison

Also it's debatable to say Hinduism gives a high status to women

 

[R3verse Swing]

I wonder if India will continue begging Canada for Uranium?

A thought to ponder.

 

[TM Riddle]

If only Indians worried this much about themselves and pondered on latest issues regularly like a 'few' here seem to do , We would have been a superpower by now.

 

[Napa]

Why is Sikh right wing extremism considered a dirty word in India, whereas Hindu right wing extremism is seen as the second coming?

I think you have a difficult time understanding that the reality is not what you wish it to be. There is no divide between Hindu and Sikh people in India, just like there is no divide between Hindus and Jains, between Shaivites and Vaishnavites etc. Yes, there are individual troublemakers or even very small groups of people, but the people as a whole do not feel any difference. I say this as a Hindu who has many Sikh friends and have a better understanding of this matter than you can ever hope for.

Bhindranwale tried hard to drive a wedge between Hindus and Sikhs (including massacring Hindu bus passengers) and he died. Indira Gandhi promoted Bhindranwale for political gain, she too died. The Hindu and Sikh people went back to living together in amity.

 

[Napa]

Poor point

When faced with actual data your best comeback is "poor point".

In India actual physical harassment counts as sexual harassment whereas in the US a drunk guy accidentally brushing against a girl from behind at a frat party can also termed as an harassment incident whereas no one would count it as such in India.

When faced with actual data, you start making up stuff. I was specifically quoting Obama's statement about assault, not about a drunk guy brushing against someone. On January 14, 2014 Obama said “It is estimated that 1 in 5 women on college campuses has been sexually assaulted during their time there — 1 in 5." (I said 25% earlier, but rather it is 20%.)

This is not about a drunk guy brushing against someone, this is very specifically "sexual assault". Over 4 years, 20% equals 5% per year. So we have 5,000 per 100,000 a year, something totally of a different order of magnitude than 2 per 100,000 a year.

Also it's debatable to say Hinduism gives a high status to women

You do not understand or even have the basic knowledge about Hinduism beyond whatever you have received from biased sources.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I think you have a difficult time understanding that the reality is not what you wish it to be. There is no divide between Hindu and Sikh people in India, just like there is no divide between Hindus and Jains, between Shaivites and Vaishnavites etc. Yes, there are individual troublemakers or even very small groups of people, but the people as a whole do not feel any difference. I say this as a Hindu who has many Sikh friends and have a better understanding of this matter than you can ever hope for.

Bhindranwale tried hard to drive a wedge between Hindus and Sikhs (including massacring Hindu bus passengers) and he died. Indira Gandhi promoted Bhindranwale for political gain, she too died. The Hindu and Sikh people went back to living together in amity.

The post you quoted was in direct response to the poster calling out right wing Sikh extremists while extolling the virtues of India's right wing Hindu extremist govt. I wasn't making a judgement on it, just querying why the discrepancy in standards.

 

[CricketCartoons]

The post you quoted was in direct response to the poster calling out right wing Sikh extremists while extolling the virtues of India's right wing Hindu extremist govt. I wasn't making a judgement on it, just querying why the discrepancy in standards.

Not an apple to apple comparison. khalistani extremists bombed an airplane. the extremist hindu govt has had one of the peaceful eras in modern india.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Not an apple to apple comparison. khalistani extremists bombed an airplane. the extremist hindu govt has had one of the peaceful eras in modern india.

The extremist Hindu govt has a leader who was accused of complicity in the Gujarat riots where over 1000 died. Maybe if the Sikh extremists had risen to leadership they might have also matured with responsibility. Terrorism is usually the act of the disenfranchised.

 

[CricketCartoons]

The extremist Hindu govt has a leader who was accused of complicity in the Gujarat riots where over 1000 died. Maybe if the Sikh extremists had risen to leadership they might have also matured with responsibility. Terrorism is usually the act of the disenfranchised.

Accused and exonerated, during the reign of a politically hostile government. Feel free to debate further on it. No anti modi indian has ever been able to prove his complicity, but you can try.
The Kanishka flight bombing was not an accusation on khalistanis, it was proven.

As I said, not a like for like comparison. An assertive person can be seen as extremist in some region, while it is normal somewhere else.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Accused and exonerated, during the reign of a politically hostile government. Feel free to debate further on it. No anti modi indian has ever been able to prove his complicity, but you can try.
The Kanishka flight bombing was not an accusation on khalistanis, it was proven.

As I said, not a like for like comparison. An assertive person can be seen as extremist in some region, while it is normal somewhere else.

Modi was exonerated by courts presided by fellow Hindus, it may be that the proceedings and verdict were free of bias, but as the rest of the world reserves the right to put doubt on foreign govt court dealings, I also have my reservations.

 

[Slog]

When faced with actual data your best comeback is "poor point".



When faced with actual data, you start making up stuff. I was specifically quoting Obama's statement about assault, not about a drunk guy brushing against someone. On January 14, 2014 Obama said “It is estimated that 1 in 5 women on college campuses has been sexually assaulted during their time there — 1 in 5." (I said 25% earlier, but rather it is 20%.)

This is not about a drunk guy brushing against someone, this is very specifically "sexual assault". Over 4 years, 20% equals 5% per year. So we have 5,000 per 100,000 a year, something totally of a different order of magnitude than 2 per 100,000 a year.



You do not understand or even have the basic knowledge about Hinduism beyond whatever you have received from biased sources.

It is a poor point because you are not making an apples to apples comparison

India has very low rates of reporting so any number is skewed. It is ironic that you do not acknowledge that but are ready to use a speculative number used by Obama to make a point. Doesn't say much about your critical thinking skills if that blatant contradiction isnt apparent to you.

I can only go by stories which are part of Hinduism folklore and going by those its very fair to say its debatable if not make an outright judgement. Many Hindus have also agreed that there is a point to be raised. You aren't the standard bearer of that religion. The fact that you lash out so readily means that you do not have much substance to argue upon.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Modi was exonerated by courts presided by fellow Hindus, it may be that the proceedings and verdict were free of bias, but as the rest of the world reserves the right to put doubt on foreign govt court dealings, I also have my reservations.

Such reservation doesn't count. I can call any judgement biased because the jury/judge had a shared identity with the accused, but unless there is evidence of guilt, it doesn't count.

Show me evidence that Modi is an extremist ( let alone of the same type as khalistani terrorists). At best he can be described right wing politician. But calling him extremist needs more evidence. Please provide that.

 

[R3verse Swing]

Modi was exonerated by courts presided by fellow Hindus, it may be that the proceedings and verdict were free of bias, but as the rest of the world reserves the right to put doubt on foreign govt court dealings, I also have my reservations.

Modi's trial reminds me that of OJ's trial.

 

[R3verse Swing]

There's no more compelling evidence Modi was a religious extremists than his ban from Western nations.

 

[CricketCartoons]

There's no more compelling evidence Modi was a religious extremists than his ban from Western nations.

You already agreed that the nations which banned him are beghairat and cannot be taken seriously. Next evidence please.

Also learn to quote me when responding.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Such reservation doesn't count. I can call any judgement biased because the jury/judge had a shared identity with the accused, but unless there is evidence of guilt, it doesn't count.

Show me evidence that Modi is an extremist ( let alone of the same type as khalistani terrorists). At best he can be described right wing politician. But calling him extremist needs more evidence. Please provide that.

His govt is filled with ministers who regularly make extremist statements, many of which have threads dedicated to them on this site. I don't need to provide links to them all, you've been here long enough to have read them without me needing to bump them.

 

[CricketCartoons]

His govt is filled with ministers who regularly make extremist statements, many of which have threads dedicated to them on this site. I don't need to provide links to them all, you've been here long enough to have read them without me needing to bump them.

So now from Modi, you have shifted to his ministers. Making "extremist" statements is right wing politics, a la Trump. Most govts would be extremists by that loose definition.

You are comparing words(demagoguery) with actions( flight bombing). Not a like for like comparison as I said earlier.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

So now from Modi, you have shifted to his ministers. Making "extremist" statements is right wing politics, a la Trump. Most govts would be extremists by that loose definition.

You are comparing words(demagoguery) with actions( flight bombing). Not a like for like comparison as I said earlier.

Many Jihadist websites have been shut down by the FBI, and extremist agitator Anjem Choudhery was jailed for words which are considered incitement or inflammatory. Words lead to action, sorry speaking as a Brit we don't believe in absolute free speech.

 

[R3verse Swing]

Money is why the ban was lifted. Nothing else. In the same way Judges can be bought in Kangeroo courts to exonerate Modi.

Justin Trudeau is a legend in the making. The pic above where he is greeted by the Skih community sums up his support at an international level. He is a shining example of secularism and pluralism, unlike Modi, who was faced with protests in London.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Many Jihadist websites have been shut down by the FBI, and extremist agitator Anjem Choudhery was jailed for words which are considered incitement or inflammatory. Words lead to action, sorry speaking as a Brit we don't believe in absolute free speech.

Anjem C was jailed after years, while the Brits tolerated his utterances. Give India some leeway, especially when the politicians don't repeat the rabble rousing.

My point still stands. Not a like for like comparison. Even if we assume that the statements of a few ministers out of hundreds could be classified as extremist in nature, still doesnt compare the bombing of a flight containing canadian/indian citizens.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Money is why the ban was lifted. Nothing else. In the same way Judges can be bought in Kangeroo courts to exonerate Modi.

Justin Trudeau is a legend in the making. The pic above where he is greeted by the Skih community sums up his support at an international level. He is a shining example of secularism and pluralism, unlike Modi, who was faced with protests in London.

Must be true, now that you have said it.

 

[Napa]

It is a poor point because you are not making an apples to apples comparison

India has very low rates of reporting so any number is skewed. It is ironic that you do not acknowledge that but are ready to use a speculative number used by Obama to make a point. Doesn't say much about your critical thinking skills if that blatant contradiction isnt apparent to you.

I can only go by stories which are part of Hinduism folklore and going by those its very fair to say its debatable if not make an outright judgement. Many Hindus have also agreed that there is a point to be raised. You aren't the standard bearer of that religion. The fact that you lash out so readily means that you do not have much substance to argue upon.

At this point your arguments have basically reduced to "if the data doesn't suit what I am saying, then it must not be apples to apples, or it is due to "low rates of reporting" or it is a "speculative number"".

As for Obama's number being "speculative", the Washington Post-Kaiser Foundation nationwide survey that confirmed the 1 in 5 statistic.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...y-assaulted-an-update/?utm_term=.be01ad2e39bd

It requires a severe detachment from the real world to not see the difference between 2 in 100,000 and 5,000 in 100,000 even after taking into account various possible biases.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Anjem C was jailed after years, while the Brits tolerated his utterances. Give India some leeway, especially when the politicians don't repeat the rabble rousing.

My point still stands. Not a like for like comparison. Even if we assume that the statements of a few ministers out of hundreds could be classified as extremist in nature, still doesnt compare the bombing of a flight containing canadian/indian citizens.

Inciting riots which lead to deaths of thousands doesn't compare to bombing of an aircraft? Possibly not, but the hatred of one extremist group and admiration for another is what I found difficult to difficult to square. But then as ever, depends whose viewpoint we are looking from.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Inciting riots which lead to deaths of thousands doesn't compare to bombing of an aircraft? Possibly not, but the hatred of one extremist group and admiration for another is what I found difficult to difficult to square. But then as ever, depends whose viewpoint we are looking from.

First: Which minister in the govt incited a riot? Second: Is that the official policy of the political party?

One is a terrorist group killing civilians, other is a right wing political party prone to making irresponsible statements. Hardly any comparison. What I find difficult to square is your lumping of both together using a very loose and convenient definition of extremism.

 

[CanadianG00se]

I wonder if India will continue begging Canada for Uranium?

A thought to ponder.

Uranium exported to India is mostly from Saskatchewan (my previous hometown) and believe me more than India its the local Saskatchewan people needs uranium trade. The money that earned from trade has actually boosted the local economy and created jobs, otherwise that province is considered as poor and backwards. India always have option to import uranium from other nations like Australia, or also use Thorium which is widely available in India. But for people of Saskatchewan this trade means alot, specially when central Canadian govt have historically neglected that province both economically and strategically.

 

[CanadianG00se]

Money is why the ban was lifted. Nothing else. In the same way Judges can be bought in Kangeroo courts to exonerate Modi.

Justin Trudeau is a legend in the making. The pic above where he is greeted by the Skih community sums up his support at an international level. He is a shining example of secularism and pluralism, unlike Modi, who was faced with protests in London.

Trudeau is very popular among minorities in Canada, so no surprise seeing him getting red carpet welcome in Punjab. I shall vote for him in upcoming elections

 

[English August]

Uranium exported to India is mostly from Saskatchewan (my previous hometown) and believe me more than India its the local Saskatchewan people needs uranium trade. The money that earned from trade has actually boosted the local economy and created jobs, otherwise that province is considered as poor and backwards. India always have option to import uranium from other nations like Australia, or also use Thorium which is widely available in India. But for people of Saskatchewan this trade means alot, specially when central Canadian govt have historically neglected that province both economically and strategically.

Not nice of you to bring a degree of pragmatism to this conversation. Reverse Swing was building castles in the air. You should have let him.

 

[R3verse Swing]

Trudeau visit to India goes from bad to worse

Justin Trudeau’s ill-fated visit to India has stumbled from bad to worse, with the Canadian prime minister being accused of fraternising with terrorists after a man convicted of shooting an Indian minister was photographed with his wife.

Already snubbed by Narendra Modi, who is yet to meet his Canadian counterpart days after his arrival in India and mocked for the extravagant wardrobe of traditional Indian clothes, Mr Trudeau’s delegation is scrambling to limit the fallout from the latest debacle. Indian hardliners were outraged when pictures emerged of Sophie Trudeau, the Canadian leader’s wife, alongside Jaspal Atwal, a notorious activist, at a function in Mumbai.

Full article behind Pay wall : http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...s-the-Canadian-PM-being-cold-shouldered/page4

The same hardliners in India never comment on the countless times famous Bollywood actors attend parties and events with Indian organised crime - virtually a weekly occurrence.

 

[R3verse Swing]

I think the joke is on India, but they do not get it.

Justin Trudeau doesn't give a hoot about India or it's economy. Indian votes in Canada mean more. There are 4 million of them. Also trade with India is about $9 Billion a year, and it is not a like for like economy, and India's economy offers less, than the EU.

Justin Trudeau is securing his next term in this visit! What a player!

 

[R3verse Swing]

Oops - here is the correct link to the Article in post 271 : https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/world/trudeau-visit-to-india-goes-from-bad-to-worse-68scgczxn

 

[R3verse Swing]

Uranium exported to India is mostly from Saskatchewan (my previous hometown) and believe me more than India its the local Saskatchewan people needs uranium trade. The money that earned from trade has actually boosted the local economy and created jobs, otherwise that province is considered as poor and backwards. India always have option to import uranium from other nations like Australia, or also use Thorium which is widely available in India. But for people of Saskatchewan this trade means alot, specially when central Canadian govt have historically neglected that province both economically and strategically.

Uranium is in demand. I'm sure the Saskatchewan community can export Uranium to the EU once the EU-Canada trade deal is in motion [once CETA is approved]. There's always China and Pakistan as potential customers!

 

[English August]

Uranium is in demand. I'm sure the Saskatchewan community can export Uranium to the EU once the EU-Canada trade deal is in motion [once CETA is approved]. There's always China and Pakistan as potential customers!

How many days is he spending in Pakistan then? Oh wait, Pakistan doesn't offer anything touristy, so his wife is not interested in going.

 

[English August]

So looks like finally this Pappu decided to eat dust, grovel and went and met Amarinder Singh (the CM of Punjab) after refusing to do so earlier. A provincial CM made the PM of a G-7 country act like a common peon / chaprasi.

Thankfully Pappu didn't offer to do kar seva and polish Amarinder Singh's shoes.

 

[English August]

I think the joke is on India, but they do not get it.

Justin Trudeau doesn't give a hoot about India or it's economy. Indian votes in Canada mean more. There are 4 million of them. Also trade with India is about $9 Billion a year, and it is not a like for like economy, and India's economy offers less, than the EU.

Justin Trudeau is securing his next term in this visit! What a player!

What's the joke?

 

[CanadianG00se]

Uranium is in demand. I'm sure the Saskatchewan community can export Uranium to the EU once the EU-Canada trade deal is in motion [once CETA is approved]. There's always China and Pakistan as potential customers!

Those markets are potential which may or may not come to fruition. In business world you do not scratch your deal in the hope of potential market, you make or break deals when you’re being profited. Now, China sure is a market, and infact they already supplying to China as well, but for Saskatchewan both markets is equally of significant importance. Now, i highly doubt Canada would supply uranium deposit to Pakistan as it doesnt have good impression globally, plus there was also a concern in west that Nukes in Pakistan could fall into wrong hands. Beside that, even US would barred Canada from supplying nukes to Pakistan. Even for an argument sake we assume they would supply to Pakistan it would still not be enough to replace India.
So, unless Canada can find a market that can replace India, I dont see them scrapping the deal. You want this deal to be scrapped just because of PM of Canada wasnt given grand welcome? So a welcome is more important than jobs for local Canadians?
Fyi, even local news channels in Canada weren’t covering much of PM’s visit to India. You’re just assuming lot ot things with no relevance.

 

[kabbirann]

Folks who have no faith in the judiciary when it comes to Salman Khan suddenly have their faith restored when it comes to Modi.
This thread has been enlightening.I am now beginning to believe in the innocence of martyr Sant Bhindrawalan ji.If Modi is innocent, so is Sant Bhindrawalan ji.

 

[R3verse Swing]

Those markets are potential which may or may not come to fruition. In business world you do not scratch your deal in the hope of potential market, you make or break deals when you’re being profited. Now, China sure is a market, and infact they already supplying to China as well, but for Saskatchewan both markets is equally of significant importance. Now, i highly doubt Canada would supply uranium deposit to Pakistan as it doesnt have good impression globally, plus there was also a concern in west that Nukes in Pakistan could fall into wrong hands. Beside that, even US would barred Canada from supplying nukes to Pakistan. Even for an argument sake we assume they would supply to Pakistan it would still not be enough to replace India.
So, unless Canada can find a market that can replace India, I dont see them scrapping the deal. You want this deal to be scrapped just because of PM of Canada wasnt given grand welcome? So a welcome is more important than jobs for local Canadians?
Fyi, even local news channels in Canada weren’t covering much of PM’s visit to India. You’re just assuming lot ot things with no relevance.

If I was JT, yes I would block the sale of Uranium. First on moral and political grounds, secondly India doesn't need uranium really does it? Lastly, like I said, the trade between Canada and India is about $9 Billion, this includes Uranium. This will be pittance compared to trade between Canada and EU once CETA is approved. Though it will not stop India groveling for Canadian Uranium.

I'm sure the Saskatchewans will survive without trade with India once CETA is approved.

You say local news channels are not covering much of the visit, but what about the desi channels in Canada? In UK, the tour is not front-page headline, but it is making the broadsheet papers and news channels, and social media is having a field day.

 

[CanadianG00se]

If I was JT, yes I would block the sale of Uranium. First on moral and political grounds, secondly India doesn't need uranium really does it? Lastly, like I said, the trade between Canada and India is about $9 Billion, this includes Uranium. This will be pittance compared to trade between Canada and EU once CETA is approved. Though it will not stop India groveling for Canadian Uranium.

I'm sure the Saskatchewans will survive without trade with India once CETA is approved.

You say local news channels are not covering much of the visit, but what about the desi channels in Canada? In UK, the tour is not front-page headline, but it is making the broadsheet papers and news channels, and social media is having a field day.

When and If that CETA is approved until then Saskatchewan economy very much needs Indian rupees.

Secondly, if PM does blocks the uranium deal then he can bid goodbye to his political career. As of now lot of whites in prarire region (Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta) are against Trudeau as he is far too liberal for their likings, and scrapping a deal would means taking away hundreds and thousands of jobs (even if its short duration) from people in that region. This move will definately be last nail in a coffin for his political career plus not to mention will also ruin the bilateral relations with India (second biggest market in Asia).
Unlike South Asia, here PM needs to answer his actions, so when and if he does scrap deals, what would he answer to those Canadians who would lose jobs? Oh my pride is far greater than your guys survival? I was being snubbed in India so i scrapped the deal, sorry but you guys are on your own.

Lets assume he indeed scraps the deal and the propose CETA doesnt go through, so whats next?

 

[English August]

If I was JT, yes I would block the sale of Uranium. First on moral and political grounds, secondly India doesn't need uranium really does it? Lastly, like I said, the trade between Canada and India is about $9 Billion, this includes Uranium. This will be pittance compared to trade between Canada and EU once CETA is approved. Though it will not stop India groveling for Canadian Uranium.

I'm sure the Saskatchewans will survive without trade with India once CETA is approved.

You say local news channels are not covering much of the visit, but what about the desi channels in Canada? In UK, the tour is not front-page headline, but it is making the broadsheet papers and news channels, and social media is having a field day.

So if China and EU buy uranium from Canada, that's called trade, but if India does that's called groveling? This is trolling of lowest kind even by your abysmal standards!

Let me define groveling for you: it's what this Pretty Pappu is doing right now in India. Check out the pictures of his meeting with Capt. Amarinder Singh.

 

[CanadianG00se]

If I was JT, yes I would block the sale of Uranium. First on moral and political grounds, secondly India doesn't need uranium really does it? Lastly, like I said, the trade between Canada and India is about $9 Billion, this includes Uranium. This will be pittance compared to trade between Canada and EU once CETA is approved. Though it will not stop India groveling for Canadian Uranium.

I'm sure the Saskatchewans will survive without trade with India once CETA is approved.

You say local news channels are not covering much of the visit, but what about the desi channels in Canada? In UK, the tour is not front-page headline, but it is making the broadsheet papers and news channels, and social media is having a field day.

You have no clue what you’re talking about. Here in Canada an average Canadian doesnt even know that PM of Canada was snubbed in India and tbh its not even a big deal. Unlike American president, our PM do not seek that much attention, he just stay out of limelight and gets the job done, which is what i like about him. So, if an avg Canadian dont think its a big deal then why you still think Canadian PM would take such drastic measures based on something that isn’t even relevant.

 

[R3verse Swing]

When and If that CETA is approved until then Saskatchewan economy very much needs Indian rupees.

Secondly, if PM does blocks the uranium deal then he can bid goodbye to his political career. As of now lot of whites in prarire region (Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta) are against Trudeau as he is far too liberal for their likings, and scrapping a deal would means taking away hundreds and thousands of jobs (even if its short duration) from people in that region. This move will definately be last nail in a coffin for his political career plus not to mention will also ruin the bilateral relations with India (second biggest market in Asia).
Unlike South Asia, here PM needs to answer his actions, so when and if he does scrap deals, what would he answer to those Canadians who would lose jobs? Oh my pride is far greater than your guys survival? I was being snubbed in India so i scrapped the deal, sorry but you guys are on your own.

Lets assume he indeed scraps the deal and the propose CETA doesnt go through, so whats next?

China, USA, and dare I say it, Israel & Russia.

By the way, I am just referring to the Uranium. Reason for this, it is highlighted in the OP article. How many jobs does Uranium mining create in Saskatchewan? Surely not in the 100000s?

 

[CanadianG00se]

China, USA, and dare I say it, Israel & Russia.

By the way, I am just referring to the Uranium. Reason for this, it is highlighted in the OP article. How many jobs does Uranium mining create in Saskatchewan? Surely not in the 100000s?

Again you’re throwing random countries you’d think they would do a deal. If those countries wanted uranium then they would have signed a deal by now, but they havent. So, either they have other means of source or perhaps not needed as much as India.
Why would Canada scrap a deal with India which is working against a deal with a country that may or may not go through?

Would you quit your current job for a job that you might not even get and end up unemployed.?

Lastly, you have no given one legitimate reason as to why cant Canada supply Uranium to both Eu and India? More trade means more jobs for locals?

 

[R3verse Swing]

You have no clue what you’re talking about. Here in Canada an average Canadian doesnt even know that PM of Canada was snubbed in India and tbh its not even a big deal. Unlike American president, our PM do not seek that much attention, he just stay out of limelight and gets the job done, which is what i like about him. So, if an avg Canadian dont think its a big deal then why you still think Canadian PM would take such drastic measures based on something that isn’t even relevant.

OK this a different answer to the same post.

You are missing the point completely. I get it the average Canadian doesn't care about the trip or him being snubbed, but what about the desis' in Canada? Are they following his trip, particular the Sikh community? This is why I asked you whether his trip is being reported on desi media in Canada. Do you not see, you yourself are praising JT!

This trip isn't about appeasing the average Canadian, it is about securing desi votes, 4 million up for grabs in Canada! It's classical political-engineering!

Let me give you some insight, in the UK, Sikhs are following his visit, and the news related to it.

 

[CanadianG00se]

OK this a different answer to the same post.

You are missing the point completely. I get it the average Canadian doesn't care about the trip or him being snubbed, but what about the desis' in Canada? Are they following his trip, particular the Sikh community? This is why I asked you whether his trip is being reported on desi media in Canada. Do you not see, you yourself are praising JT!

This trip isn't about appeasing the average Canadian, it is about securing desi votes, 4 million up for grabs in Canada! It's classical political-engineering!

Let me give you some insight, in the UK, Sikhs are following his visit, and the news related to it.

What Desi Canadian thinks of his trip to India is irrelevant. Why? Because Sikhs who supports Khalistan will have different view than ones who supports unified India like me. Secondly, desis are still significant minorities in Canada. Lastly, he is already quite popular among desis in Canada and quite frankly he is much better than what we had as PM before him. So, I dont see a reason why he needs to do something when he is already quite popular among desis. Heck if he scraps a deal then he sure will lose lot of not only White votes but also desis.

 

[R3verse Swing]

Again you’re throwing random countries you’d think they would do a deal. If those countries wanted uranium then they would have signed a deal by now, but they havent. So, either they have other means of source or perhaps not needed as much as India.
Why would Canada scrap a deal with India which is working against a deal with a country that may or may not go through?

Would you quit your current job for a job that you might not even get and end up unemployed.?

Lastly, you have no given one legitimate reason as to why cant Canada supply Uranium to both Eu and India? More trade means more jobs for locals?

No I am not throwing random nations in the list. You need to do some research. Canada produces about 25% of the WORLD's uranium. Do you think India buys the lot? Given there are only 14 Nuclear nations, the customer base is pretty small.

I never claimed Canada could NOT supply uranium to both India and EU, read carefully, I said EU is a bigger market compared to India and Canada would profit way more by trading with EU. Oh also, CETA is just a formality, the actual trade between Canada and EU has already been ratified and in force since 20 September 2017 : http://trade.ec.europa.eu/doclib/press/index.cfm?id=1723

So no, I am not citing random nations, it's just you have not done your research!

 

[CanadianG00se]

No I am not throwing random nations in the list. You need to do some research. Canada produces about 25% of the WORLD's uranium. Do you think India buys the lot? Given there are only 14 Nuclear nations, the customer base is pretty small.

I never claimed Canada could NOT supply uranium to both India and EU, read carefully, I said EU is a bigger market compared to India and Canada would profit way more by trading with EU. Oh also, CETA is just a formality, the actual trade between Canada and EU has already been ratified and in force since 20 September 2017 : http://trade.ec.europa.eu/doclib/press/index.cfm?id=1723

So no, I am not citing random nations, it's just you have not done your research!

Canada do have lot of Uranium deposit in Saskatchewan, and parts of Alberta. However, due to regulations mining is done in limited, so they do not over do it and damage the environment. Secondly, Canada have lot of competitors, such as Russia, Australia, Kazakhstan etc who also produces uranium. Even Iran have uranium production, so there is no denying that Iran isn’t supplying uranium to Russia and China already.

As of 2015 Canada would export $350M dollar worth of Uranium to India and would increase annually. Here, we arent talking about Trade as in general topic, but just a Uranium deal. Now, Will EU purchase uranium of same quantity is to be seen. But as of now, Sask needs this deal more than India does.

Lastly, you didnt replied me, why would Canada wanna to scrap deal with India when its making them handsome money?

 

[R3verse Swing]

Lastly, you didnt replied me, why would Canada wanna to scrap deal with India when its making them handsome money?

You asked me a different question on why Canada could not sell Uranium to India and the EU. I answered.

But since you have not answered my question on whether desi channels in Canada are reporting this trip, I will still answer your second question, because I can guess the answer anyway.

Canada is NOT making handsome money by selling Uranium to India, the new deal has not been finalised in writing, READ THE OP. One of the reasons for this trip was to discuss the Uranium deal because there are differences over the supervision of the use of uranium in India which delayed ratification of the deal. Hence this trip!

Did you know Canada banned the trade of nuclear materials with India in 1976? Do you know when the ban was lifted? There is no handsome money from India you speak of. Please research!

Even so, lets ASSUME the Uranium deal is ratified, $350 Million is not small change, it is however pennies compared to what Canada will profit once it starts selling uranium to countries that form NATO under the EU trade deal.

You make it sound like the Canadian Uranium industry depends on the Indian deal, it does not.

 

[CanadianG00se]

You asked me a different question on why Canada could not sell Uranium to India and the EU. I answered.

But since you have not answered my question on whether desi channels in Canada are reporting this trip, I will still answer your second question, because I can guess the answer anyway.

Canada is NOT making handsome money by selling Uranium to India, the new deal has not been finalised in writing, READ THE OP. One of the reasons for this trip was to discuss the Uranium deal because there are differences over the supervision of the use of uranium in India which delayed ratification of the deal. Hence this trip!

Did you know Canada banned the trade of nuclear materials with India in 1976? Do you know when the ban was lifted? There is no handsome money from India you speak of. Please research!

Even so, lets ASSUME the Uranium deal is ratified, $350 Million is not small change, it is however pennies compared to what Canada will profit once it starts selling uranium to countries that form NATO under the EU trade deal.


You make it sound like the Canadian Uranium industry depends on the Indian deal, it does not.

I dont follow Canadian desi channels or punjabi craps they have here in Canada. I only follow CBC or C24 local news channel in Toronto. Secondly, I clearly mentioned what desis think of his trip is irrelavant as Trudeau cant win election just focusing on minorities. He also needs to appeal to white Canadians. Lastly, I only said the deal with India will create jobs to financially struggling province. I lived in that province and its pretty backward, its like living in third world nation. So any and every deal they get is basically of greater importance to them. I do agree, deal with EU will be of more importance than India, but what you’re suggesting is if they get deal with EU then they can allow to scrap deal with India, which isnt entirely true. Lastly, even if deal is scrapped and Sask economy is still in good shape due to deal with EU, i still dont see how that is bad thing for India? Like Canada, India too have an options of chosing differnt suppliers.
In business world, seller is more effected with No sale than a buyer.

 

[R3verse Swing]

I dont follow Canadian desi channels or punjabi craps they have here in Canada. I only follow CBC or C24 local news channel in Toronto. Secondly, I clearly mentioned what desis think of his trip is irrelavant as Trudeau cant win election just focusing on minorities. He also needs to appeal to white Canadians. Lastly, I only said the deal with India will create jobs to financially struggling province. I lived in that province and its pretty backward, its like living in third world nation. So any and every deal they get is basically of greater importance to them. I do agree, deal with EU will be of more importance than India, but what you’re suggesting is if they get deal with EU then they can allow to scrap deal with India, which isnt entirely true. Lastly, even if deal is scrapped and Sask economy is still in good shape due to deal with EU, i still dont see how that is bad thing for India? Like Canada, India too have an options of chosing differnt suppliers.
In business world, seller is more effected with No sale than a buyer.

On bold emphasis.

Yes and why not? It's not as if Canada has been supplying Uranium to India for decades is it? Canada's Uranium industry has survived without India's custom.

The last time Canada actually sold Uranium to India was in the 70s. India said it wanted to develop Nuclear energy, but instead developed bombs. This is why Canada banned the export of Uranium to India, and since then Canada and India have had a frosty relationship. That is until Modi came in power and visited Canada and signed a provisional deal for Uranium with Stephen Harper in 2015.

Now, given the frosty relationship of the past, Canada decides to set aside the differences and give another chance to India by trusting them on this deal. The current JT trip was meant to cross the I's and dot the T's on the 2015 deal and increase trust between the 2 nations.

Canadian PM makes the effort, visits India, but is snubbed by Modi, the very person who did in fact plea with Canada for Uranium in 2015. You talk of Job losses in Canada if the deal is lost? The deal is not even generating revenue for Canada because nothing has been exported and will not be until the deal is ratified and assurances provided. What Job losses are you talking about exactly?

So, the point is simple. Justin is making the effort, yet Modi is not. Modi has ignored him throughout the visit thus far because of 2 Sikhs on trip in the Canadian cabinet. You think Canada should still sell Uranium to India after what Modi has done? I do not. In essence, Modi has blown his chance, and may have to wait till the next Canadian PM before the Uranium deal is ratified.

Since the 2015 deal has yet to be ratified, you were wrong about Uranium being exported to India mostly from Saskatchewan. You were wrong about Canada making handsome money though Uranium sales in India. You are definitely misguided on the point of job losses in the Canadian uranium industry if there is no deal. You claim Canadians will not vote for JT if the deal is off because of job losses – even though the deal is not making any money anyway! You have no idea of the current list of nations who buy Uranium from Canada. Also, you had no idea the EU-Canada trade deal has been in force since last year.

So you I hope you will forgive me when I say, you don’t have clue of what you are talking about and as a result are propagating fake news around this Uranium deal. You are looking at this trip from the Indian perspective, not the Canadian perspective.

Lastly, I hope you now understand what I meant when I said : “I wonder if India will continue begging Canada for Uranium?”

Good night and bless!

 

[PakLFC]

That is probably why the current Canadian PM is being given the cold shoulder by Modi as he is perceived as being pro Khalistan. Azhar is teaching him how to play Cricket or he is meeting Shahrukh! Modi seems to be ignoring him! Modi's got the 'ump!)

 

[CanadianG00se]

On bold emphasis.

Yes and why not? It's not as if Canada has been supplying Uranium to India for decades is it? Canada's Uranium industry has survived without India's custom.

The last time Canada actually sold Uranium to India was in the 70s. India said it wanted to develop Nuclear energy, but instead developed bombs. This is why Canada banned the export of Uranium to India, and since then Canada and India have had a frosty relationship. That is until Modi came in power and visited Canada and signed a provisional deal for Uranium with Stephen Harper in 2015.

Now, given the frosty relationship of the past, Canada decides to set aside the differences and give another chance to India by trusting them on this deal. The current JT trip was meant to cross the I's and dot the T's on the 2015 deal and increase trust between the 2 nations.

Canadian PM makes the effort, visits India, but is snubbed by Modi, the very person who did in fact plea with Canada for Uranium in 2015. You talk of Job losses in Canada if the deal is lost? The deal is not even generating revenue for Canada because nothing has been exported and will not be until the deal is ratified and assurances provided. What Job losses are you talking about exactly?

So, the point is simple. Justin is making the effort, yet Modi is not. Modi has ignored him throughout the visit thus far because of 2 Sikhs on trip in the Canadian cabinet. You think Canada should still sell Uranium to India after what Modi has done? I do not. In essence, Modi has blown his chance, and may have to wait till the next Canadian PM before the Uranium deal is ratified.

Since the 2015 deal has yet to be ratified, you were wrong about Uranium being exported to India mostly from Saskatchewan. You were wrong about Canada making handsome money though Uranium sales in India. You are definitely misguided on the point of job losses in the Canadian uranium industry if there is no deal. You claim Canadians will not vote for JT if the deal is off because of job losses – even though the deal is not making any money anyway! You have no idea of the current list of nations who buy Uranium from Canada. Also, you had no idea the EU-Canada trade deal has been in force since last year.

So you I hope you will forgive me when I say, you don’t have clue of what you are talking about and as a result are propagating fake news around this Uranium deal. You are looking at this trip from the Indian perspective, not the Canadian perspective.

Lastly, I hope you now understand what I meant when I said : “I wonder if India will continue begging Canada for Uranium?”

Good night and bless!

Again why would India beg to Canada when other countries are option to supply. Lastly, India are also in process of creating nuclear reactor that supports usage of Thorium which India have plenty of deposit. So, its not India’s nuclear energy goal will be halted if Canada stops supplying.

 

[R3verse Swing]

Again why would India beg to Canada when other countries are option to supply. Lastly, India are also in process of creating nuclear reactor that supports usage of Thorium which India have plenty of deposit. So, its not India’s nuclear energy goal will be halted if Canada stops supplying.

Why would India beg? Simply because India DOES NOT have other suppliers for Uranium other than Kazakhstan!

https://thediplomat.com/2015/02/tracking-indias-imported-uranium/

Also if Thorium can be used, you need to ask Modi why he wants to import Uranium.

 

[CanadianG00se]

Why would India beg? Simply because India DOES NOT have other suppliers for Uranium other than Kazakhstan!

https://thediplomat.com/2015/02/tracking-indias-imported-uranium/

Also if Thorium can be used, you need to ask Modi why he wants to import Uranium.

So if Indan govt want to beg then why would they ignored PM Trudeau? You make no sense.

Its Canadian PM who made an effort to sign a deal and went to India, not the other way around, and yet you claimed India is begging? Lmao what kinda logic is that

As far as India’s Thorium plant then they have finished developing the reactor. Maybe in next 5 years we will have better understanding. But if its indeed successful then India’s dependency on Uranium will no longer be a problem, as I mentioned earlier India have vast deposit of Thorium.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/10/i...orlds-first-advanced-thorium-nuclear-reactor/

 

[R3verse Swing]

So if Indan govt want to beg then why would they ignored PM Trudeau? You make no sense.

Its Canadian PM who made an effort to sign a deal and went to India, not the other way around, and yet you claimed India is begging? Lmao what kinda logic is that

As far as India’s Thorium plant then they have finished developing the reactor. Maybe in next 5 years we will have better understanding. But if its indeed successful then India’s dependency on Uranium will no longer be a problem, as I mentioned earlier India have vast deposit of Thorium.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/10/i...orlds-first-advanced-thorium-nuclear-reactor/

Are you even reading? It was not the Canadian PM who made an effort to sign the deal, it was Modi in 2015. JT is just ratifying the deal. It's India who approached Canada first, not the other way round.

Considering the desperation of India, yes, that is precisely the point, why is Modi ignoring JT?

The only person that makes no sense is Modi. He will come to rue the day he ignored JT.

 

[BreadPakoda]

Why would India beg? Simply because India DOES NOT have other suppliers for Uranium other than Kazakhstan!

https://thediplomat.com/2015/02/tracking-indias-imported-uranium/

Also if Thorium can be used, you need to ask Modi why he wants to import Uranium.

Negotiating deals is not the same as begging. Something a bit closer to begging is asking for financial aids in return of letting bigger powers kill your people for a larger agenda in the region.

 

[R3verse Swing]

Negotiating deals is not the same as begging. Something a bit closer to begging is asking for financial aids in return of letting bigger powers kill your people for a larger agenda in the region.

UK PM is trying to negotiate a deal with the EU by begging for concessions. This is a fact.

So negotiating a deal can be construed as begging.

Don't get upset on the choice of words. It's the same as saying India is gagging for foreign investment.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

So what is the consensus of Indian posters here who support their govt's cold shoulder treatment to the Canadian PM? If I am reading it correctly, seems like Canada is filled with belligerent unreasonable Sikhs who have influenced Trudeau in a manner which has been detrimental to his nation. Shame on Canada's Sikh population then....I stand united with India on this one!

 

[R3verse Swing]

So what is the consensus of Indian posters here who support their govt's cold shoulder treatment to the Canadian PM? If I am reading it correctly, seems like Canada is filled with belligerent unreasonable Sikhs who have influenced Trudeau in a manner which has been detrimental to his nation. Shame on Canada's Sikh population then....I stand united with India on this one!

Modi broke radio silence yesterday with this beauty of a tweet:

 

[Pakistanian]

Lol Indians mocking Justin for wearing Indian clothes and respecting their culture but then get butt hurt when white people make fun of them smh

 

[sshakir411]

I'm surprised to find out... a country that has supported separatists movement as a national policy since its creation is whining about Truedeau supporting Sikhs. I mean it's friggin hilarious.

 

[BreadPakoda]

Why is he always pulling children’s ears? Any story behind it?

 

[sshakir411]

Lol Indians mocking Justin for wearing Indian clothes and respecting their culture but then get butt hurt when white people make fun of them smh

Also, someone should remind Indian cricket and bollywood superstars that Abercrombie & Fitch is for high school kids. You don't wear it anymore if you're not in HS. Despite all the money Sachin has he shows up wearing those Muscle T's that you see white boys wear in their freshman year in school

 

[Pakistanian]

Also, someone should remind Indian cricket and bollywood superstars that Abercrombie & Fitch is for high school kids. You don't wear it anymore if you're not in HS. Despite all the money Sachin has he shows up wearing those Muscle T's that you see white boys wear in their freshman year in school

Lol yeah they don't know how to dress themselves, most of these bollywood stars dress like teenagers. That said I think guys in their 20s can get away with a muscle shirt however Sachin is like 45

 

[sshakir411]

Lol yeah they don't know how to dress themselves, most of these bollywood stars dress like teenagers. That said I think guys in their 20s can get away with a muscle shirt however Sachin is like 45

20s works too but damn all these Indian cricketers like Sehwag, Sachin, even Azharuddin (who is now like 50) wears it and they pop the collars up too on the polos!!)

 

[CricketCartoons]

20s works too but damn all these Indian cricketers like Sehwag, Sachin, even Azharuddin (who is now like 50) wears it and they pop the collars up too on the polos!!)

Please make a thread on the sartorial sense of cricketers and bollywood actors, and stop derailing this thread.

 

[R3verse Swing]

Meanwhile in another universe :

Trump Jr’s foreign policy speech in India demoted to fireside chat

President Trump’s eldest son has raked in millions of dollars in property sales on his visit to India, outshone the Canadian premier, and claimed he can handle hot curry “better than the locals”.

Speaking at a meeting in Delhi today to business and political leaders Donald Trump Jr attacked the “viciousness” of the US media and warming to a familiar theme of his father’s, he said there was little hope of fixing the administration’s relationship with the press.

“I can handle spice,” he boasted during a function in Mumbai. “Especially when they go, ‘No, no, no, you’re an American you can’t’. I’m like, ‘I promise I can’. Oftentimes, better than the locals.”

Full article behind Pay wall : https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/...h-in-india-demoted-to-fireside-chat-7ls9m898p

After confusing Moguls with Moghuls, Trump Jnr ended up in India instead of South Korea by accident. Ivanka went to the airport in Seoul to meet him!

LOL! Fair and Lovely!

 

[sshakir411]

Please make a thread on the sartorial sense of cricketers and bollywood actors, and stop derailing this thread.

Fine. Why was Modi unaware of Trudeau's support for the Sikhs when he visited Canada?

 

[R3verse Swing]

Fine. Why was Modi unaware of Trudeau's support for the Sikhs when he visited Canada?

You got him.

Something about ignorance is bliss.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Fine. Why was Modi unaware of Trudeau's support for the Sikhs when he visited Canada?

I don't know if Modi ji was unaware, or why if he was.

 

[sshakir411]

I don't know if Modi ji was unaware, or why if he was.

or maybe he's snubbing him now because of this?

https://www.hindustantimes.com/worl...as-genocide/story-1YPs2tiMkvtW2Tp7UDyydK.html

 

[KingKhanWC]

You have no idea what Indian women are like. You mess with them, you are likely to end up being sorry. Sheila Dixit, Jayalalitha, Mamta Banerjee, Nikki Haley, Indira Gandhi, Indra Nooyi, Mayawati etc. are a few examples of fearless Indian women.

What kind of reasoning is this? All women will resist rape or serious sexual assualt according to their capability. Indian women are no more stronger than Chinese women.

So the rate has risen from 1.8 to 2.2, big deal! Still a long long way behind Pakistan (28) or the US (6,250 according to Obama).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics#By_country

These are figures based on reported. In India most women do not report such crimes against them. Women dont get raped reguarly on buses in USA or Pakistan.

What??? Do you even have a ridiculous cite for this delusional figure?

It should be 1.2 million , i apolgise for the typo. However your own minister suggested 100 million people were involved in human trafficking in India. Millions are aborted just because they would have been born as females.

Yes, let's ignore what the data says about the real world, and keep believing in our favorite delusions.

You;ve ignored the data I have given you but are clutching to one set of data which only tells you the amount of reported rapes.

 

[CricketCartoons]

or maybe he's snubbing him now because of this?

https://www.hindustantimes.com/worl...as-genocide/story-1YPs2tiMkvtW2Tp7UDyydK.html

It is a possibility. What I am happy about that this instagram joker who has no backbone and tries to appease everyone..got the treatment he deserved.

 

[sshakir411]

It is a possibility. What I am happy about that this instagram joker who has no backbone and tries to appease everyone..got the treatment he deserved.

LOL. You should visit Toronto if Trudeau allows you...you'd be shocked to see 75% of the people that arrive there daily are Indians. Canada has given a lot to Indians who move there...it's pretty petty from India to treat him this way.

 

[CricketCartoons]

LOL. You should visit Toronto if Trudeau allows you...you'd be shocked to see 75% of the people that arrive there daily are Indians. Canada has given a lot to Indians who move there...it's pretty petty from India to treat him this way.

So? By same token you will start respecting Trump if he starts allowing Pakistanis ( or whatever group you prefer) in huge numbers. I would respect an enemy who has a backbone and don't resort to stupid gimmicks (peoplekind) to stay relevant, not this joker.

 

[sshakir411]

So? By same token you will start respecting Trump if he starts allowing Pakistanis ( or whatever group you prefer) in huge numbers. I would respect an enemy who has a backbone and don't resort to stupid gimmicks (peoplekind) to stay relevant, not this joker.

Pakistanis just like Indians are already allowed...regardless of what their government's stance is. Smarty...

 

[CricketCartoons]

Pakistanis just like Indians are already allowed...regardless of what their government's stance is. Smarty...

you missed my point..i said "in huge numbers". basically will you start respecting trump if he is favourable towards pakistanis? I guess you will, but I won't. So you can keep worshipping trudeau, just don't expect me to do the same.

 

[English August]

Lots of strawman arguments on this thread. People are writing reams and reams of stuff assuming that JS was somehow "rebuffed". In fact he's being treated just like any other head of state. Looks like India has followed every protocol so far. What India hasn't done is gone out of its way to treat him like a special guest (like Obama was). But what is wrong in that? Not everyone can be special. If everyone becomes special, then those who are truly special won't feel like they're being treated as special.

Indians are mocking JS because he's treating this trip like tourism (7 days) rather than a business trip (2-3 days). He's doing bhangra etc. Nothing wrong in that per se, but you just open yourselves to social media warriors having a bit of fun at your expense.