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Kamran Akmal - The explosive opener we need

Shehzad, after failing for years in internationals has one good match = he's the next Jayasuria.

That's how people change.

Kami isn't a world class bat. He won't get into other modern LOI units. However, he's just the better alternative of Azhar, Shehzad, Hafeez, Shan Masood.

We don't have Sharjeel either, so we definitely need an explosive top order bat/opener.

It could be Shahzaib and Kami.

EVERY time you ask this from people, they are clueless and have no answer. They want Azhar, Shehzad and Masood to open for Pak!
 
Hawkeye said:
Shehzad, after failing for years in internationals has one good match = he's the next Jayasuria.

That's how people change.

Kami isn't a world class bat. He won't get into other modern LOI units. However, he's just the better alternative of Azhar, Shehzad, Hafeez, Shan Masood.

We don't have Sharjeel either, so we definitely need an explosive top order bat/opener.

It could be Shahzaib and Kami.
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Kami is not the answer. Extremely limited and poor player.
 
Hamzakhalid said:
Kami is not the answer. Extremely limited and poor player.
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So, who's the answer? Azhar? Shehzad? Hafeez or Masood?

That's what I'm saying. He's just better than the alternatives. We have no choice. Only Shahzaib and Kami are hard hitting openers in Pakistan.

Fakhar can be tried, but he's a legside hack who struggles against pace.
 
Hawkeye said:
So, who's the answer? Azhar? Shehzad? Hafeez or Masood?

That's what I'm saying. He's just better than the alternatives. We have no choice. Only Shahzaib and Kami are hard hitting openers in Pakistan.

Fakhar can be tried, but he's a legside hack who struggles against pace.
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Umar Amin but Quetta did not play him but rather opened with Asad Shafiq.

Not a Shehzad fan but he deserves a chance.
 
Biggest culprit today. Dropped Shehzad's catch and played a hideous innings. 1 (7) while chasing 201 is unforgivable.
 
A terrible innings today which was a crucial part in their lost today,should play well in the next match if he wants to be considered for selection.
 
Probably THE BEST batsman from Pakistan in the PSL.

So far have 3 absolutely marvelous performances - matched by nobody else, especially the first one and now today in the KNOCKOUT!

I don't think anybody has any doubts he's a clutch player. Big match, big show.
 
Usama Mir and Usman Shinwari have bowled some filth. Give Kamran a few more full tosses eh lads ?
 
Hawkeye said:
Probably THE BEST batsman from Pakistan in the PSL.

So far have 3 absolutely marvelous performances - matched by nobody else, especially the first one and now today in the KNOCKOUT!

I don't think anybody has any doubts he's a clutch player. Big match, big show.
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Are you joking? The guy is a massive choker? This is just a fluke where he is getting full tosses. If this was an ICC tournament semi final he would've hit one of these full tosses straight to the fielder, the choker that he is.
 
so shall he be included in both T20 & ODI blocking all young new players just so he will fail again on decent pitches and way better bowlers?
 
asma_cricfan said:
so shall he be included in both T20 & ODI blocking all young new players just so he will fail again on decent pitches and way better bowlers?
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Precisely. Get Mitchell Starc and Pat Cummins up against this joker and Kami will be delivering a dance performance at the crease greater than Michael Jackson.

Lucky to get all these full tosses served up on a plate tonight.
 
Hawkeye said:
Probably THE BEST batsman from Pakistan in the PSL.

So far have 3 absolutely marvelous performances - matched by nobody else, especially the first one and now today in the KNOCKOUT!

I don't think anybody has any doubts he's a clutch player. Big match, big show.
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Pathetic. :facepalm: And I was not talking about Kami.
 
Just like his brother, he has the ability to play an excellent knock once in a while but nowhere near consistent enough for people to start claiming he is a very good player overall.

I don't think Sarfraz is a great player either in LOI's but if he really has the captaincy skills, then he's clearly a better option than Kamran (taking also into account his absolutely horrendous keeping skills - even if Sarfraz might not be a good keeper himself)
 
Better Limited Overs batsman than Sarfraz but he's a big choker and shouldn't be near the team. Sarfraz is a better captain too. His younger brother should open in ODIs
 
aliasad1998 said:
Are you joking? The guy is a massive choker? This is just a fluke where he is getting full tosses. If this was an ICC tournament semi final he would've hit one of these full tosses straight to the fielder, the choker that he is.
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Call him anything but he's the opposite of choker, lol.

Won us that game vs WI on his own, who can forget the Test win he pulled off?

Markhor said:
Precisely. Get Mitchell Starc and Pat Cummins up against this joker and Kami will be delivering a dance performance at the crease greater than Michael Jackson.

Lucky to get all these full tosses served up on a plate tonight.
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Pray tell who can hit Starc and Cummins out of the park at will in the Pakistani team? Only Sharjeel did it.

WHO is the other person who can? I asked this earlier as well, give me ONE alternative who is better than Kami. You haven't been able to name ONE, and that shows our lack of talent.

Only Umar, Kami and Sharjeel can hit such kind of pacers from Pakistan. No matter how hard it is for some people to digest this, but facts are facts.

Lol, or are you from the lot who thinks Shafiq, Sarfraz, Malik and Rizwan can hit pacers out of the park?
 
aliasad1998 said:
Better Limited Overs batsman than Sarfraz but he's a big choker and shouldn't be near the team. Sarfraz is a better captain too. His younger brother should open in ODIs
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Your hatred as always isn't based on any facts. Kamran in his wildest dreams couldn't score at an average of 60 at 91 in England even if you gave him 50 series. In 2016 he averaged 54 at 92.

Kami never even averaged 40 in any year in international cricket.
 
Unreal performances by him this tournament.

The kind that really can win you LOIs. Badly lacking such strikers of the ball - tired of Maliks, Rizwans, Saad Nasims and Shafiqs.

The funny thing is - ppers can't name a pair of openers who are better than him and will play LOIs for us. Lol.
 
He is deserving candidate for opening slot even in FC he scored more than 1000 runs with an average of 80 plus I think he deserves a chance
 
Hawkeye said:
Call him anything but he's the opposite of choker, lol.

Won us that game vs WI on his own, who can forget the Test win he pulled off?

Pray tell who can hit Starc and Cummins out of the park at will in the Pakistani team? Only Sharjeel did it.

WHO is the other person who can? I asked this earlier as well, give me ONE alternative who is better than Kami. You haven't been able to name ONE, and that shows our lack of talent.

Only Umar, Kami and Sharjeel can hit such kind of pacers from Pakistan. No matter how hard it is for some people to digest this, but facts are facts.

Lol, or are you from the lot who thinks Shafiq, Sarfraz, Malik and Rizwan can hit pacers out of the park?
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Naa he's a choker in Limited Overs cricket. Played a few very clutch test knocks though.
 
dauntless said:
He is deserving candidate for opening slot even in FC he scored more than 1000 runs with an average of 80 plus I think he deserves a chance
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Correct.

Nobody deserves a recall more than him. He has outperformed everyone not only in domestic First Class, but also at the PSL from Pakistan.

You can see blind hatred in this thread - ignoring the fact there's NOT A SINGLE better striker of the ball in Pakistan, who has scored as heavily as him and as good as him vs. pace.

He's not world class, but he's the best Pakistan has in terms of an explosive opener - after Sharjeel Khan. As of now.

Shahzaib can partner him, would love that sight.
 
Markhor said:
Your hatred as always isn't based on any facts. Kamran in his wildest dreams couldn't score at an average of 60 at 91 in England even if you gave him 50 series. In 2016 he averaged 54 at 92.

Kami never even averaged 40 in any year in international cricket.
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I like Sarfraz more than Kamran but let's be real here. Sarfraz can't play like this even on the flattest of surfaces against poor bowling. He is just very limited when it comes to hitting which is a requirement in moder day Limited Overs cricket. Kamran is much more dynamic. Sarfraz should bat at 5 for us in ODIs but he would never get into a dynamic batting lineup because he would just be a hindrance.
 
he is making a strong case of coming back to the team. Shahzad and Kami i think we will see them in the 11 again surely
 
StreetSmart said:
he is making a strong case of coming back to the team. Shahzad and Kami i think we will see them in the 11 again surely
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Shehzad will be the WORST thing to happen to Pakistan in LOIs.

Get ready for 60/70 or at best 80 strike rates, AS AN OPENER.


aliasad1998 said:
I like Sarfraz more than Kamran but let's be real here. Sarfraz can't play like this even on the flattest of surfaces against poor bowling. He is just very limited when it comes to hitting which is a requirement in moder day Limited Overs cricket. Kamran is much more dynamic. Sarfraz should bat at 5 for us in ODIs but he would never get into a dynamic batting lineup because he would just be a hindrance.
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That's correct. His fans get hyper when you call this weakness out, but I'm not sure why.

It's a fact, lets get real. He's not a hitter, and can play an accumulator role in our team at 4 or 5, if he can single/double at 90 strike rate.
 
Hawkeye said:
Shehzad will be the WORST thing to happen to Pakistan in LOIs.

Get ready for 60/70 or at best 80 strike rates, AS AN OPENER.




That's correct. His fans get hyper when you call this weakness out, but I'm not sure why.

It's a fact, lets get real. He's not a hitter, and can play an accumulator role in our team at 4 or 5, if he can single/double at 90 strike rate.
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Yes you are right but i think he deserve chance we saw out of form out of shape U Akmal got a chance why not, Shahzad
 
Hawkeye said:
Pray tell who can hit Starc and Cummins out of the park at will in the Pakistani team? Only Sharjeel did it.
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Forget hitting them out of the park, he wouldn't survive one over against any decent pace attack. Look at what happened the last time fans were clamouring for his recall. When he returned to the ODI team in 2012-13 he averaged 16 from 17 matches !

In his last stint in T20Is, he averaged 14 :))

So these domestic performances must be taken with a pinch of salt when we all know he'll be exposed at international level.

WHO is the other person who can? I asked this earlier as well, give me ONE alternative who is better than Kami. You haven't been able to name ONE, and that shows our lack of talent.

Only Umar, Kami and Sharjeel can hit such kind of pacers from Pakistan. No matter how hard it is for some people to digest this, but facts are facts.

Lol, or are you from the lot who thinks Shafiq, Sarfraz, Malik and Rizwan can hit pacers out of the park?
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What's with these false choices ? I'd rather we take a punt on someone like Shahzaib Hasan or Hussain Talat or Khushdil Shah than go back to this 35 year old TTF who at best would just be a short-term measure.

We keep saying we need to build for the 2019 WC yet fans keep demanding likes of Hafeez, Malik and Kami.
 
kamran should really thank to sohail khan who i think the laziest bowler right now beating irfan even. sohail didn't go for the catch in the early overs.
secondly kamran should be thankful to sangakara who thinks bopara is good enough to bowl in pp.

nevertheless we might see a 35 years old fatty who hardly can take quick singles in team.
 
What a knock. Everyone in AWE.

Haters on fire too! But they don't know Kami and Shahzaib opening for Pakistan is BEST FOR PAKISTAN.

Just kick out Shehzads, Rizwans, Hafeezs and Maliks.
 
His innings is nowhere the quality of Sharjeel who took on everyone.
 
Hamzakhalid said:
His innings is nowhere the quality of Sharjeel who took on everyone.
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Yes, but Sharjeel was the best in the world right now at hitting as an opener.

Kami is currently the best in Pakistan, now that Sharjeel is gone. Him and Shahzaib will be ideal for us.

Or if Sharjeel is cleared, Sharjeel and Kami/Shahzaib should open.
 
Hawkeye said:
What a knock. Everyone in AWE.

Haters on fire too! But they don't know Kami and Shahzaib opening for Pakistan is BEST FOR PAKISTAN.

Just kick out Shehzads, Rizwans, Hafeezs and Maliks.
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Even if Kakmal scores 100 100's I still don't want him in the team
 
Give me Ravi Bopara's medium paced pies on this belter and I'd be on fire too.

Hoping and praying Inzy resists the calls for his return.
 
Hawkeye said:
Yes, but Sharjeel was the best in the world right now at hitting as an opener.

Kami is currently the best in Pakistan, now that Sharjeel is gone. Him and Shahzaib will be ideal for us.

Or if Sharjeel is cleared, Sharjeel and Kami/Shahzaib should open.
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I really missed Sharj at PSL. :(
 
Markhor said:
Give me Ravi Bopara's medium paced pies on this belter and I'd be on fire too.

Hoping and praying Inzy resists the calls for his return.
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Sarfraz wouldn't have been able to hit them over the fence and you know it
 
aliasad1998 said:
Sarfraz wouldn't have been able to hit them over the fence and you know it
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Let's discuss the merits of Kamran Akmal's selection instead of bringing in X, Y and Z.

Do you think he is capable of repeating this kind of performance against international attacks ?

Bear in mind when he returned to the ODI team in 2012-13 he averaged 16 from 17 matches, and in his last stint in T20Is, he averaged 14.
 
Markhor said:
Give me Ravi Bopara's medium paced pies on this belter and I'd be on fire too.

Hoping and praying Inzy resists the calls for his return.
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You're completely wrong and posting with a bias/dislike for Kami. Not as a neutral, so it's affecting judgment.

He put up a brilliant show in the first match too.

Now, let's consider what you're saying is true. Give those same pies to Sarfraz, Malik, Shafiq, Shehzad and Saad Nasim.

What will happen? They won't be able to score a 100, or even a 50.

And certainly not the type of hitting that Kami did.

Get it?
 
Markhor said:
Let's discuss the merits of Kamran Akmal's selection instead of bringing in X, Y and Z.

Do you think he is capable of repeating this kind of performance against international attacks ?

Bear in mind when he returned to the ODI team in 2012-13 he averaged 16 from 17 matches, and in his last stint in T20Is, he averaged 14.
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I don't want him in the team!
 
Markhor said:
Let's discuss the merits of Kamran Akmal's selection instead of bringing in X, Y and Z.

Do you think he is capable of repeating this kind of performance against international attacks ?

Bear in mind when he returned to the ODI team in 2012-13 he averaged 16 from 17 matches, and in his last stint in T20Is, he averaged 14.
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He'll be recalled based on his recent form, scoring massively in FC, putting up fireworks in the PSL. Best batsman of the PSL from Pak.

So, he'll start with a clean slate, and with a very good hit the ball ability.

He can repeat this kind of performance against international attacks. The others - like Sarfraz, Malik, Shafiq etc CANNOT EVER do this against any international attack.
 
Hawkeye said:
What a knock. Everyone in AWE.

Haters on fire too! But they don't know Kami and Shahzaib opening for Pakistan is BEST FOR PAKISTAN.

Just kick out Shehzads, Rizwans, Hafeezs and Maliks.
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Shahzaib is going to flop as an opener.
 
Kamran plays like a middle order batsman. He takes time to get going. He'd be better off at 4 when the ball stop moving.
 
What a turnaround in a few days. The villain against Quetta and the hero against Karachi.
 
Markhor said:
Forget hitting them out of the park, he wouldn't survive one over against any decent pace attack. Look at what happened the last time fans were clamouring for his recall. When he returned to the ODI team in 2012-13 he averaged 16 from 17 matches !

In his last stint in T20Is, he averaged 14 :))

So these domestic performances must be taken with a pinch of salt when we all know he'll be exposed at international level.


What's with these false choices ? I'd rather we take a punt on someone like Shahzaib Hasan or Hussain Talat or Khushdil Shah than go back to this 35 year old TTF who at best would just be a short-term measure.

We keep saying we need to build for the 2019 WC yet fans keep demanding likes of Hafeez, Malik and Kami.
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Common sense isn't common, don't know why you're wasting your time debating such people.
 
How can someone complain about Younis and Misbah and then advocate for Kamran's inclusion? No 35+ player in LOs, please!
 
Sharjeel's stupidity has made this an easier pill to follow. What i hope happens is this

Kamran gets selected in t20s only, he can have the next 2 series as far as I'm concerned. If he succeeds against WI, then add him to the ODI squad with the CT in mind.

However most likely he will walk into odi and t20 teams, do just enough to hang then proceed to cut to point every innings during the CT

I want him to succeed but we have been down this road far too often
 
Hamzakhalid said:
He is highly inconsistent and smashes poor bowlers only or spinners.

Also 35 years of age.
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lmao do you remember his knock in the opening game? ISB has a strong bowling line up and literally tore it apart. Kamran Akmal is only going to play against what he gets to..At least Kami can smash mediocre bowers. we have players in our national team who struggle to clear the circle..
 
pakistanigoneaussie said:
Impossible now, only reason he wasnt before was because Mickey blocked it. Now Kamran will have the public on his side, best we get this over and done it with quickly
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Did you see his innings today? In the middle he kinda slowed down. He was trying to play shots and yet it always went to the fielders. After his first good over he looked lost out there. Now granted his ending was not all too bad. He did end up hitting big sixes which got them over the line. At the pace they were going I thought 200 was on the cards. But it wasn't to be.

After seeing all his knocks I can easily say if you cramp him with the balls aimed at his body or block areas where he usually plays his shots. Which is in the covers usually. He will look like a tailender. At this point in time we should be looking for younger talent. Not senior batsmen who are well past it.
 
MRSN said:
lmao do you remember his knock in the opening game? ISB has a strong bowling line up and literally tore it apart. Kamran Akmal is only going to play against what he gets to..At least Kami can smash mediocre bowers. we have players in our national team who struggle to clear the circle..
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He will struggle big time for Pakistan. Mark it.
 
Zohaib Shah said:
Did you see his innings today? In the middle he kinda slowed down. He was trying to play shots and yet it always went to the fielders. After his first good over he looked lost out there. Now granted his ending was not all too bad. He did end up hitting big sixes which got them over the line. At the pace they were going I thought 200 was on the cards. But it wasn't to be.

After seeing all his knocks I can easily say if you cramp him with the balls aimed at his body or block areas where he usually plays his shots. Which is in the covers usually. He will look like a tailender. At this point in time we should be looking for younger talent. Not senior batsmen who are well past it.
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yeah surely the domestic bowlers need your advice as he has been amongst top performers in the domestic cricket for last 5 years. Kamran is coming from a long domestic season. he has played quite a lot of cricket recently.
 
MRSN said:
yeah surely the domestic bowlers need your advice as he has been amongst top performers in the domestic cricket for last 5 years. Kamran is coming from a long domestic season. he has played quite a lot of cricket recently.
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Are you really comparing domestic cricket with international cricket right now?
 
Zohaib Shah said:
Did you see his innings today? In the middle he kinda slowed down. He was trying to play shots and yet it always went to the fielders. After his first good over he looked lost out there. Now granted his ending was not all too bad. He did end up hitting big sixes which got them over the line. At the pace they were going I thought 200 was on the cards. But it wasn't to be.

After seeing all his knocks I can easily say if you cramp him with the balls aimed at his body or block areas where he usually plays his shots. Which is in the covers usually. He will look like a tailender. At this point in time we should be looking for younger talent. Not senior batsmen who are well past it.
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Bro i dont want him, im just addressing reality and how to best deal with it imo
 
pakistanigoneaussie said:
I agree with you there, i full expect him to cut to point or get out pulling
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I hope he takes a senior batsmen's spot instead of a spot of the youngsters. They should replace Hafeez with him if they wanna try him. I think Pakistan team should select senior batsmen who play consistently and leave the rest of the spots for newer players. Cause we don't want Shoiab Malik, Kamran Akmal, and Hafeez in the same team.
 
We were told that he will cack under the pressure of playing in the PSL because it is a televised tournament with massive fan following, and the quality of cricket will be higher than the other domestic tournaments where he has been piling up the runs.
 
Mamoon said:
We were told that he will cack under the pressure of playing in the PSL because it is a televised tournament with massive fan following, and the quality of cricket will be higher than the other domestic tournaments where he has been piling up the runs.
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Other than 3 innings he has averaged 9. So yeah, for the major part of the PSL he has been poor.
 
Pakpak said:
Other than 3 innings he has averaged 9. So yeah, for the major part of the PSL he has been poor.
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Three match-winning innings, two of the highest individual scores belong to him as well. Yes he has had some bad games, but I think it's extremely harsh to say that the leading scorer has had a poor tournament.
 
Mamoon said:
Three match-winning innings, two of the highest individual scores belong to him as well. Yes he has had some bad games, but I think it's extremely harsh to say that the leading scorer has had a poor tournament.
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He has been successful in 3 out of 10 innings. If you see someone having a 30% success rate as then having a successful tournament then what can I say.

He's a tried and tested failure at international level, and at 35 (probably 37) he is not going to get better.
 
Pakpak said:
He has been successful in 3 out of 10 innings. If you see someone having a 30% success rate as then having a successful tournament then what can I say.

He's a tried and tested failure at international level, and at 35 (probably 37) he is not going to get better.
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At least we can agree on the fact that almost no one expected him to be the leading run scorer. With Sharjeel and Latif seemingly gone and Azhar hanging by a thread, I think we can do worse than Kamran. Obviously a short-term option though.
 
Mamoon said:
At least we can agree on the fact that almost no one expected him to be the leading run scorer. With Sharjeel and Latif seemingly gone and Azhar hanging by a thread, I think we can do worse than Kamran. Obviously a short-term option though.
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His 30% success in the PSL has been what his international career has been. An average of 26, with flashes of talent but ultimately failing more than often.

Short-term I can tolerate him, I'll take him over Azhar any day though. Atleast he won't tuktuk the entire power play.

You must be happy, Zalmi looking odds on for the title now. My entire family, barring me and brother, support them and are sending me message after message today. :hasan
 
Mamoon said:
At least we can agree on the fact that almost no one expected him to be the leading run scorer. With Sharjeel and Latif seemingly gone and Azhar hanging by a thread, I think we can do worse than Kamran. Obviously a short-term option though.
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I think [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] somewhere recommended Hussain Talat as opener. It's also vital to have left hand right hand combo at the top.

Shehzad is deserving candidate to open, He is young and can serve if performs reasonably for the team. But Kamran Akmal is a veteran who has been tried many times, It's not going to work out.

I watched all his innings today and he attacked Bopara as well as spinners.
 
Pakpak said:
His 30% success in the PSL has been what his international career has been. An average of 26, with flashes of talent but ultimately failing more than often.

Short-term I can tolerate him, I'll take him over Azhar any day though. Atleast he won't tuktuk the entire power play.

You must be happy, Zalmi looking odds on for the title now. My entire family, barring me and brother, support them and are sending me message after message today. :hasan
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Indeed. Don't see any other result but a comfortably Zalmi win on Sunday. Feel sorry for Quetta though, they didn't deserve to be depleted.
 
Hamzakhalid said:
I think [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] somewhere recommended Hussain Talat as opener. It's also vital to have left hand right hand combo at the top.

Shehzad is deserving candidate to open, He is young and can serve if performs reasonably for the team. But Kamran Akmal is a veteran who has been tried many times, It's not going to work out.

I watched all his innings today and he attacked Bopara as well as spinners.
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Talat will play for Pakistan one day, but not this year. I was fairly accurate with when the likes of Sami and Babar will establish themselves in the national team. For Talat, I'm looking at mid to late 2018, but not before. He wil be a fixture in the Islamabad team next year, and that could be his breakthrough.
 
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