What's new

Kane Williamson - the best batting prospect to come out of New Zealand?

Its like how people join subcontinent teams together. NZ and Australia have close cultural links.
 
Aman said:
[MENTION=132373]Convict[/MENTION] how many times have you referred to NZ being just another state of Aus (it isn't), I recall you quoting some document earlier. At least try to be consistent.

There's a clear link between the countries, as much as we'd both like to dismiss it.
Click to expand...

Link between the two countries is you lot mooching off us.
 
Aman said:
lol comparing the averages of a number 3 batsmen and a 5/6. No Smith will definitely not finish with an average of 50+ you don't have to be a genius or fortune teller to know that.

You need to remember he's a lower batsmen while Williamson bats at 3.

If Smith batted at three do you really think he'd be averaging 40+?

My best guess is he'd be a high 20's or low 30's at number 3.
Click to expand...

Look you need to relax yourself- I am simply stating my opinion. I'm not saying Williamson is a bad batsman, I'm just saying Steve is better due to having better feats. In the batting position sense, they can't be compared since they bat in two different positions however I have seen both play and I'll reserve my judgement that Steve is a special batsman.
 
Haz95 said:
Look you need to relax yourself- I am simply stating my opinion. I'm not saying Williamson is a bad batsman, I'm just saying Steve is better due to having better feats. In the batting position sense, they can't be compared since they bat in two different positions however I have seen both play and I'll reserve my judgement that Steve is a special batsman.
Click to expand...

What feats are these you keep going on about? Big difference between having to set the platform yourself than getting to build off what the other batsmen have already set for you. To put things into perspective, Ross Taylor made his test debut at a similar age to what Kane is now and Kane already has 7 centuries.
 
Last edited:
NZcricketfan said:
What feats are these you keep going on about? Big difference between having to set the platform yourself than getting to build off what the other batsmen have already set for you. To put things into perspective, Ross Taylor made his test debut at a similar age to what Kane is now and Kane already has 7 centuries.
Click to expand...
138* in Ashes- Australia were battered by England and Steve came through with Shane Watson and helped draw
100 in South Africa- first test where South Africa were coming in as the #1 team- Clarke, Warner, Doolan and Rogers had all failed and this time it was with Shaun Marsh
92 in India- This for me was his best knock; mind you this was in the midst of a whitewash from Ashwin and Co in India- Ashwin and Co in India become Murali level.
Kane is very talented also; in fact he may even rival Martin Crowe in terms of most runs and 100s for NZ however personally, I prefer Steve Smith to him.
 
NZcricketfan said:
Not sure why we are even comparing them. Steve Smith is a year and a bit older.
Click to expand...
as much as you and that Aman guy don't wanna hear this, even David Warner has better feats- average of almost 47 @73 strike rate is no joke- its actually superior to all of Pakistans ODI batsmen as well barring Fawad Alam who hasn't played enough
Anyone after Clarke is what is being stated in the intro
 
You could make the case warner is in the best current form of any bat from either country as well, 5 tons and an average of 70 in his last 8 tests and that includes 3 tons and 500+ runs in SA facing steyn and co.

I thought philander and steyn would get the better of him but it has to be up with the better series batting performances we have seen against that attack.
 
Last edited:
He is on par with Kohli in terms of talent.

THe best part is, he is also seems to play moving ball much better than :kohli

Will be an ATG if he carries on this for 7-8 more years.
 
This Yorkshireman Kane Williamson (who was wrongly banned by the ICC) will be an all time great!
 
Best young batsman in the world ATM. Fantastic player against both pace and spin.
 
When he debuted I thought he was awful. He clearly put in a lot of hard work because he looks like one of the best young batsmen in cricket right now.
 
didn't watch the match but scorecard suggests he's dynamic. [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]
 
What an innings and what a batsmen :sachin

A bit premature to be calling him an ATG, he plays for NZ, he doesn't have the luxury to play many 3,4 or 5 Test match series.

Which means he has to score 1 century ever 4 innings to have any chance of even being considered.
 
I was a bit sceptical about Kane playing T20's, but he's proven me wrong in this CLT20 and the WT20.

It also seems he's brought a few more effective power strokes into his game, in the past he's thrown away starts and centuries after trying to up the pace (ODI's).
 
On track to become an ATG. One of my favorite players these days. If the Blackcaps keep their performances up, they could reach glory next year.
 
The guy is in super touch atm. Almost unrecognisable. NZ looking very good heading into the WC. Second fave after Oz to take it out imo.
 
SL_Fan said:
The guy is in super touch atm. Almost unrecognisable. NZ looking very good heading into the WC. Second fave after Oz to take it out imo.
Click to expand...
Tbh, I think we have the better team, Aus are favorites because they've shown in the past that they can handle pressure. But who knows, we could always flunk out and miss out on the semis altogether. It just takes one bad day to end your campaign.
 
Last edited:
hussain.r97 said:
On track to become an ATG. One of my favorite players these days. If the Blackcaps keep their performances up, they could reach glory next year.
Click to expand...
Please don't say such things, these things always end up backfiring :uakmal :junaid
 
Can't class KW or Boult as great or ATG material till they come up with a marquee performance against SA or Aus.

I know Kane has scored a century against SA but that was in NZ, he needs to score one against a top side in difficult conditions to really stake a claim of one of the games best.
 
Last edited:
Aman said:
Can't class KW or Boult as great or ATG material till they come up with a marquee performance against SA or Aus.

I know Kane has scored a century against SA but that was in NZ, he needs to score one against a top side in difficult conditions to really stake a claim of an elite cricketer.
Click to expand...


Yet you got upset when I called him a rich man's Shafiq. :jf
 
Last edited:
Fastandfurious said:
Please comment when you stop stating the obvious.:inzi
Click to expand...
you have my sincere apologies
Aman said:
Can't class KW or Boult as great or ATG material till they come up with a marquee performance against SA or Aus.

I know Kane has scored a century against SA but that was in NZ, he needs to score one against a top side in difficult conditions to really stake a claim of an elite cricketer.
Click to expand...
kanes ODI 145* was pretty good. It helped them win, especially considering he scored more than half the runs. but then again, Steyn wasn't playing and SA choked badly lol.
Not sure if he's elite(nor with Boult) but both are special. They can develop into Great players like Gillespie or Flower by the looks of it, at least.
 
Last edited:
He has really transformed in the last 6 months or so, especially his LO batting. Always has been a fine Test bat.
 
Haz95 said:
you have my sincere apologies

kanes ODI 145* was pretty good. It helped them win, especially considering he scored more than half the runs. but then again, Steyn wasn't playing and SA choked badly lol.
Not sure if he's elite(nor with Boult) but both are special. They can develop into Great players like Gillespie or Flower by the looks of it, at least.
Click to expand...
It was good, but the SA ODI attack isn't the same as the Test attack.
 
meh
one thing amazing about his knock was that he hit only 8 fours and 5 sixes which is 62 off 13
the next 39 he hit in 36 balls. That is absolutely flawless. This pretty much means he didn't even play a single dot ball.
 
Haz95 said:
meh
one thing amazing about his knock was that he hit only 8 fours and 5 sixes which is 62 off 13
the next 39 he hit in 36 balls. That is absolutely flawless. This pretty much means he didn't even play a single dot ball.
Click to expand...
It's ODI's mate, any hack can make it there, everything is pretty much in the batsmen's favor there as well.

Test cricket is where the men are separated from the boys.
 
Haz95 said:
meh
one thing amazing about his knock was that he hit only 8 fours and 5 sixes which is 62 off 13
the next 39 he hit in 36 balls. That is absolutely flawless. This pretty much means he didn't even play a single dot ball.
Click to expand...


Unbelievable indeed. :shehzad
 
Some of those power strikes KW played yesterday gave me real hope, I thought he'd be a plodder for us (nudging it around and eventually hauling out trying to play the big stroke) but he's developed his game remarkably. He seems to now be able to the play big shots when the need to up the tempo is required.
 
Last edited:
Aman said:
It's ODI's mate, any hack can make it there, everything is pretty much in the batsmen's favor there as well.

Test cricket is where the men are separated from the boys.
Click to expand...
yes, yes they are. Boult has good test feats however Kanes aren't magnificent. I've actually talked about how they are not amazing and how many other young upcoming batsmen like Pujara or Smith have better feats.

Mamoon said:
[/b]

Unbelievable indeed. :shehzad
Click to expand...
funny since he actually played 7 dots :))
 
Haz95 said:
yes, yes they are. Boult has good test feats however Kanes aren't magnificent. I've actually talked about how they are not amazing and how many other young upcoming batsmen like Pujara or Smith have better feats.


funny since he actually played 7 dots :))
Click to expand...
It's promising that's he's improving though, he averages 60+ in the last 2 years or so. The reason Pujara and Smith are so far ahead is because they get 8 or more innings to get themselves accustomed to conditions.
 
Aman said:
It's promising that's he's improving though, he averages 60+ in the last 2 years or so. The reason Pujara and Smith are so far ahead is because they get 8 or more innings to get themselves accustomed to conditions.
Click to expand...
true they get to play a lot more.
however they also get more time to be exposed and/or fail if they have any weaknesses...example being Pujara.
 
PakFan2010 said:
Better than the over-rated AB De Villiers
Click to expand...
DeVilliers is currently the finest batsman in international cricket bar none and probably the only one in the world who is certain to eventually achieve ATG status. Ridiculous to call him overrated.
 
Haz95 said:
true they get to play a lot more.
however they also get more time to be exposed and/or fail if they have any weaknesses...example being Pujara.
Click to expand...
Experience mate, the good players learn from their failures and work hard to eradicate them.
 
Aman said:
Experience mate, the good players learn from their failures and work hard to eradicate them.
Click to expand...
yes. However what am saying is that there may be a weakness kane may have which won't be exposed easily- only if he plays in 4/5 match series' where decent+ opposing bowlers, i.e. Anderson will have the time to find some sort of weakness like he did with the Kohlmeister. I know Pujara will overcome his weaknesses as he seems a special batsman.
 
Last edited:
Kane Williamson in 2014:

Test average - 60 with 4 x 100s.
ODI average - 74 at a strike rate of 86.
T20I average - 33 at a stike rate of 120.
 
This guy is the real deal, probably the batting equivalent of Hadlee that the Kiwis have been looking for all these years.
 
Bilal7 said:
Aaron Finch is ahead, IMO.
Click to expand...

I'm a bit gentler on Finch now. He's still an agricultural hack but unfortunately I don't have a player to push an agenda for anymore in terms of opening the ODI batting.

Hopefully he succeeds though I still don't particularly rate him
 
Would like to see him perform against Australia and SA before rating him..
 
 
Acricketfan said:
Funny how Kohli is labeled a FTB based on one series failure , but Williamson is a future ATG despite averaging in mid 30s away from home.

Away against top 7

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/277906.html?class=1;filter=advanced;home_or_away=2;opposition=1;opposition=2;opposition=3;opposition=4;opposition=6;opposition=7;opposition=8;orderby=default;template=results;type=batting

Excluding WI who are borderline minnows these days

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/277906.html?class=1;filter=advanced;home_or_away=2;opposition=1;opposition=2;opposition=3;opposition=6;opposition=7;opposition=8;orderby=default;template=results;type=batting
Click to expand...

Williamson struggled the first few years of his test career. Thats not exactly a secret.

The past 18 months he has been scoring everywhere.
 
Fantastic player.

Him, Root and Smith will all end up as greats for their respective countries and carry their batting for the next decade.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Cricket Warrior
New Zealand tour of Zimbabwe - 2 Test matches (2025)
Replies
55
Views
1K
gazza619
gazza619
BouncerGuy
Australia tour of New Zealand (2025) - 3 T20Is
Replies
14
Views
432
mominsaigol
mominsaigol
Savak
Should Wasim Akram and Waqar Younis performances against New Zealand in the 90's have any value, given they were a horribly weak side back then?
Replies
18
Views
1K
Ab Fan
Ab Fan
Cricket Warrior
[VIDEOS] Pakistan tour of New Zealand (2025)
Replies
32
Views
3K
Sachin fan
S
BouncerGuy
[PICTURES] Kamindu Mendis named as ICC Men’s Emerging Cricketer of the Year (2024) [Saim Ayub misses out]
Replies
8
Views
958
sweep_shot
sweep_shot
Back
Top