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India has over 1 billion people and it seem most support killing of innocent Kashmiri just because they threw stone at occupying army.
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Really?
India has over 1 billion people and it seem most support killing of innocent Kashmiri just because they threw stone at occupying army.
Is he actually being protected or is he hiding and Pakistan cannot just find him ?
Definitely not Pakistan, many heads will roll if Pakistan manages to smuggle 350KG of RDX through the LOC. Even if Pakistan did, you wouldn't know about it because it is simply embarrassing for the Indian military if they allow terrorists to acquire explosives like that.
Indians are questioning the intelligence failure of the Indian military. First of all this is not a bollywood movie, you can't intercept communications if they are done verbally from a person to person without using phone or internet. Insurgency in Kashmir is local, messages are passed from one person to another person through word of mouth or through personal visitation. You are not intercepting anything. Regarding protection, it is a military convoy, what are you protecting a military convoy with ? No one expected this attack to take place.
Its a troubled world. A few miles away from my house in Aurora, IL, a psycho went to his place of employment and shot a bunch of people. In India, some pyscho blew himself up and killed a bunch of soldiers.
Why are psychopaths getting access to guns and explosives? Both of these nincompoops are dead. Turned to ash. WHat kind of lowly filthy human being thinks his own life is not worth it let alone others lives. It must be the low of the earth and the most bottom of the barrel with absolute no self esteem.
Why are psychopaths getting access to guns and explosives? Both of these nincompoops are dead. Turned to ash. WHat kind of lowly filthy human being thinks his own life is not worth it let alone others lives. It must be the low of the earth and the most bottom of the barrel with absolute no self esteem.
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Yes. And?
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30 vehicles of a particular community torched in Jammu, dozens more damaged
Widespread violence was witnessed in Jammu city on Friday during the bandh called by the Jammu Chamber of Commerce and Industries and Bar Association against the Thursday’s militant attack in Kashmir. Around 16 people received injuries while more than 30 vehicles belonging to a particular community were reduced to ashes and over 50 more damaged.
Even though the district magistrate imposed curfew at around 2:30 p.m, the police and paramilitary troops were unable to curb the violence at multiple locations including Gujjar Nagar, Shahidi Chowk, Janipur, Purani Mandi, Pacca Danga, Rehari, Residency Road, New Plot, Gummat, Prem Nagar and Narwal.
Hundreds of people, mostly students of Jammu University and several colleges, holding Indian flags on their bikes and raising slogans against Pakistan and militants, marched throughout the city and resorted to violence against members of a particular community.
Heavy deployment of police was made but they were seen helpless to control the situation. At some places tear gas shells were fired by the police while the people resorted to stone pelting on the cops.
Eyewitnesses told Greater Kashmir that crowds assembled at Jewel Chowk area in the morning and more people joined it on the way towards Dogra Chowk, Below Gummat Petrol Pump, Gummat, Prem Nagar and Gujjar Nagar, where the mobs turned violent.
The mobs attacked vehicles of a particular community and set them ablaze.
In retaliation to the targeting of their vehicles, the people of Gujjar Nagar, who were hitherto standing atop their buildings carrying the Indian flags, came out on the roads and started pelting stones at the mob, resulting in violent clashes.
As per eyewitnesses, over 25 vehicles were torched by the mob at Prem Nagar and Gujjar Nagar locality and more than 30 others were damaged.
Around 16 people, including two media persons of Early Times and Amar Ujala, were injured in the violent clashes.
Later, the mobs marched towards the Residency Road area and amid pro-India and anti-Pakistan sloganeering, burnt five more vehicles.
The crowds then marched towards Jewel area through the Gummat Chowk route and broke the windows of several vehicles and turned many upside down.
A youth told Greater Kashmir, “We’ve been given free hand by the police for around 3-4 hours to damage the vehicles belonging to a particular community.”
Some vehicles of the other community were also torched in the Gummat area.
Later the police dispersed the protesters, while fire and emergency department vehicles contained the flames.
Incidents of violence were reported in the evening across Jammu. En-route Jewel Chowk to Tallab Tillo area, Ambphalla-Janipur Road, Khatika Tallab, Gujjar Nagar, Purani Mandi, the protesters burnt tyres and damaged vehicles.
As per reports, some kiosks belonging to minority community were also pelted with stones at New Plot and Janipur in the evening.
In order to stop the situation from worsening, the divisional administration called the army in the evening. The army reacted promptly and personnel were deployed in Gujjar Nagar, Janipur, Shahidi Chowk, Talab Khatika and other areas. Flag marches were conducted and UAVs were also put into operation to monitor the situation.
The authorities snapped the mobile Internet service throughout the Jammu province while the speed of the broadband service was also slowed down.
The Jammu Chamber of Commerce and Industries had given the call for bandh which was supported by Bar Association of Jammu and political and religious organisations including the NC, NPP, BJP, VHP and other organisations.
Reports of violence were also received from other districts of Jammu province.
Source : https://m.greaterkashmir.com/news/f...ched-in-jammu-dozens-more-damaged/313076.html
Widespread violence was witnessed in Jammu city on Friday during the bandh called by the Jammu Chamber of Commerce and Industries and Bar Association against the Thursday’s militant attack in Kashmir. Around 16 people received injuries while more than 30 vehicles belonging to a particular community were reduced to ashes and over 50 more damaged.
Even though the district magistrate imposed curfew at around 2:30 p.m, the police and paramilitary troops were unable to curb the violence at multiple locations including Gujjar Nagar, Shahidi Chowk, Janipur, Purani Mandi, Pacca Danga, Rehari, Residency Road, New Plot, Gummat, Prem Nagar and Narwal.
Hundreds of people, mostly students of Jammu University and several colleges, holding Indian flags on their bikes and raising slogans against Pakistan and militants, marched throughout the city and resorted to violence against members of a particular community.
Heavy deployment of police was made but they were seen helpless to control the situation. At some places tear gas shells were fired by the police while the people resorted to stone pelting on the cops.
Eyewitnesses told Greater Kashmir that crowds assembled at Jewel Chowk area in the morning and more people joined it on the way towards Dogra Chowk, Below Gummat Petrol Pump, Gummat, Prem Nagar and Gujjar Nagar, where the mobs turned violent.
The mobs attacked vehicles of a particular community and set them ablaze.
In retaliation to the targeting of their vehicles, the people of Gujjar Nagar, who were hitherto standing atop their buildings carrying the Indian flags, came out on the roads and started pelting stones at the mob, resulting in violent clashes.
As per eyewitnesses, over 25 vehicles were torched by the mob at Prem Nagar and Gujjar Nagar locality and more than 30 others were damaged.
Around 16 people, including two media persons of Early Times and Amar Ujala, were injured in the violent clashes.
Later, the mobs marched towards the Residency Road area and amid pro-India and anti-Pakistan sloganeering, burnt five more vehicles.
The crowds then marched towards Jewel area through the Gummat Chowk route and broke the windows of several vehicles and turned many upside down.
A youth told Greater Kashmir, “We’ve been given free hand by the police for around 3-4 hours to damage the vehicles belonging to a particular community.”
Some vehicles of the other community were also torched in the Gummat area.
Later the police dispersed the protesters, while fire and emergency department vehicles contained the flames.
Incidents of violence were reported in the evening across Jammu. En-route Jewel Chowk to Tallab Tillo area, Ambphalla-Janipur Road, Khatika Tallab, Gujjar Nagar, Purani Mandi, the protesters burnt tyres and damaged vehicles.
As per reports, some kiosks belonging to minority community were also pelted with stones at New Plot and Janipur in the evening.
In order to stop the situation from worsening, the divisional administration called the army in the evening. The army reacted promptly and personnel were deployed in Gujjar Nagar, Janipur, Shahidi Chowk, Talab Khatika and other areas. Flag marches were conducted and UAVs were also put into operation to monitor the situation.
The authorities snapped the mobile Internet service throughout the Jammu province while the speed of the broadband service was also slowed down.
The Jammu Chamber of Commerce and Industries had given the call for bandh which was supported by Bar Association of Jammu and political and religious organisations including the NC, NPP, BJP, VHP and other organisations.
Reports of violence were also received from other districts of Jammu province.
Source : https://m.greaterkashmir.com/news/f...ched-in-jammu-dozens-more-damaged/313076.html
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He is absolutely right.
All the Indian (and Pakistani) chest thumpers should look at what this guy is saying.
You call for revenge, for war, for more killingd etc. from the comfort of your houses while these jawans have to pay for it with their lives.
People demand more attacks, politicians listen to them for votes, soldiers lose their lives for it.
Talk what? There is no agreeable solution. There will not be as no country is willing to concede land. There will be peace only if all three parties just agree on the current situation and sit tight. They have been talking for decades now
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The land is disputed. Doesnt belong to any country as of now.
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So do you guys get it reading the above post why India has blamed Pakistan for this attack?
They haven't been.
India has refused to talk just because they think they are supa powaa ( a pseudo-super power of South Asia).
Talk is the only solution.
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No, but the US statement is a good example of what India could have released as well. While this group may have claimed responsiblility, there has been no confirmation if this was arranged in Pakistan, or as is more likely, a similar affiliated group inside India. Pakistan for it's part should certainly be closing down any militant groups outlawed for their part, but that doesn't necessarily mean that this particular attack traces back to Pakistan. Indian govt should be seeking answers from Pakistan through back channels rather than sabre rattling uselessly.
The person was Kashmiri.
He was radicalized after years and years of oppression, killing and rape.
Do you get now why Kashmiri on Indian occupying Kashmir easily get radicalized?
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No I don’t get it.
Firstly UN has used the term “claimed.” It does not places the fault on Pakistan. It does not specify the investigation has been undertaken, conducted or completed. If anything it acknowledges the incident and crucially puts itself in a safe position by naming potential culprits but tactically using the term “claimed.”
Really is basic reading skills.
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Pulwama explosives obtained locally, says Indian commander
Gen Hooda says that the material may have been taken from stashes of explosives being used to broaden the Jammu highway where the attack occurred.— Wikimedia Commons
WASHINGTON: “It is not possible to bring such massive amounts of explosives by infiltrating the border,” says an Indian military commander, Lt Gen D.S. Hooda.
India blames Pakistan for Thursday’s suicide bombing in Pulwama that killed over 40 soldiers in India-held Kashmir. Pakistan has strongly rejected the Indian claim, urging New Delhi to avoid such “sad and baseless knee-jerk reactions”.
The Indian media reported that the suicide car-bomber Aadil Ahmad Dar used more than 750 pounds of explosives against the military convoy he targeted.
India’s options for putting diplomatic pressure on Pakistan are limited, so are its options for a military response, says report
Gen Hooda, who commanded the Indian army’s Northern Command during a similar crisis in September 2016, told The New York Times on Saturday that “the material may have been taken from stashes of explosives” being used to broaden the Jammu highway where the attack occurred.
ARTICLE CONTINUES AFTER AD
The newspaper also noted that India’s options for putting diplomatic pressure on Pakistan were limited, so were its options for a military response.
“Pakistan is largely shielded by its alliance with China, which has used its veto power at the United Nations Security Council to protect it,” said the NYT report while explaining why India did not have too many options for diplomatically isolating Pakistan.
“India’s options for a military response are also limited, analysts say, with the disputed border blanketed in thick snow and Pakistani troops on high alert,” the report added.
Diplomatic observers in Washington pointed out that the United States will also not like to isolate Pakistan, particularly now when it’s playing a key role in US-Taliban talks. A semi-official US media outlet, Voice of America, reported that American and Taliban officials are set to meet in Islamabad on Monday for a new round of direct peace negotiations aimed at paving the way for a political settlement to the war in Afghanistan.
The NYT report also hinted that the bomber might have been motivated by domestic reasons to carry out the attack.
“The nature of Thursday’s bombing suggests the insurgency is adapting and becoming more homegrown, leaving observers to question how deep the links to Pakistan really run,” the newspaper observed.
It pointed out that Dar was from a village about six miles from where the Indian convoy was struck ... and the explosives he packed into his car appear to have been locally procured.
The report noted that “an insurgency that was once stoked by Pakistan may have taken on a life of its own, as Kashmiris become more disenfranchised and angry at the central government in Delhi and its use of force”.
Some of Dar’s friends told NYT that he turned to militancy after he was wounded at a protest in 2016, where his leg was struck by a bullet fired by the Central Reserve Police Force, a paramilitary unit. “Many Kashmiris loathe the paramilitary unit, viewing it as an occupying force recruited from across India to suppress them,” the report added.
It also noted that the attack had “prompted new questions about how tenable (Prime Minister Narendra) Modi’s hard-line strategy” in Kashmir was.
India has about 250,000 armed forces in Kashmir, making it one of the most militarised corners of the world. “The armed presence affects everyday life for most locals, whose farmland, homes or schools are overshadowed by the military presence,” NYT added.
Yet, a former White House adviser on South Asian affairs, Joshua White, warned that India could pursue “a limited military action, more useful for catharsis than deterrence”.
“The sad reality is that until and unless Pakistan itself makes a decision to stop harbouring groups like Jaish-e-Mohammad, there is little that India or the United States can do to diminish the threat of these devastating attacks,” he said.
Marvin Weinbaum, the senior most scholar of South Asian affairs in Washington, noted that the ruling party in India was in trouble and therefore “it could see a strong retaliatory action as a way to mustering support”.
Michael Kugelman, Woodrow Wilson Centre, Washington, said: “How exactly India responds will depend on how much risk it’s willing to take on if it chooses to escalate.”
Mr Kugelman also identified some non-military actions that India could take, such as cutting off diplomatic ties with Pakistan or revoking the Indus Waters Treaty.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1464358
Gen Hooda says that the material may have been taken from stashes of explosives being used to broaden the Jammu highway where the attack occurred.— Wikimedia Commons
WASHINGTON: “It is not possible to bring such massive amounts of explosives by infiltrating the border,” says an Indian military commander, Lt Gen D.S. Hooda.
India blames Pakistan for Thursday’s suicide bombing in Pulwama that killed over 40 soldiers in India-held Kashmir. Pakistan has strongly rejected the Indian claim, urging New Delhi to avoid such “sad and baseless knee-jerk reactions”.
The Indian media reported that the suicide car-bomber Aadil Ahmad Dar used more than 750 pounds of explosives against the military convoy he targeted.
India’s options for putting diplomatic pressure on Pakistan are limited, so are its options for a military response, says report
Gen Hooda, who commanded the Indian army’s Northern Command during a similar crisis in September 2016, told The New York Times on Saturday that “the material may have been taken from stashes of explosives” being used to broaden the Jammu highway where the attack occurred.
ARTICLE CONTINUES AFTER AD
The newspaper also noted that India’s options for putting diplomatic pressure on Pakistan were limited, so were its options for a military response.
“Pakistan is largely shielded by its alliance with China, which has used its veto power at the United Nations Security Council to protect it,” said the NYT report while explaining why India did not have too many options for diplomatically isolating Pakistan.
“India’s options for a military response are also limited, analysts say, with the disputed border blanketed in thick snow and Pakistani troops on high alert,” the report added.
Diplomatic observers in Washington pointed out that the United States will also not like to isolate Pakistan, particularly now when it’s playing a key role in US-Taliban talks. A semi-official US media outlet, Voice of America, reported that American and Taliban officials are set to meet in Islamabad on Monday for a new round of direct peace negotiations aimed at paving the way for a political settlement to the war in Afghanistan.
The NYT report also hinted that the bomber might have been motivated by domestic reasons to carry out the attack.
“The nature of Thursday’s bombing suggests the insurgency is adapting and becoming more homegrown, leaving observers to question how deep the links to Pakistan really run,” the newspaper observed.
It pointed out that Dar was from a village about six miles from where the Indian convoy was struck ... and the explosives he packed into his car appear to have been locally procured.
The report noted that “an insurgency that was once stoked by Pakistan may have taken on a life of its own, as Kashmiris become more disenfranchised and angry at the central government in Delhi and its use of force”.
Some of Dar’s friends told NYT that he turned to militancy after he was wounded at a protest in 2016, where his leg was struck by a bullet fired by the Central Reserve Police Force, a paramilitary unit. “Many Kashmiris loathe the paramilitary unit, viewing it as an occupying force recruited from across India to suppress them,” the report added.
It also noted that the attack had “prompted new questions about how tenable (Prime Minister Narendra) Modi’s hard-line strategy” in Kashmir was.
India has about 250,000 armed forces in Kashmir, making it one of the most militarised corners of the world. “The armed presence affects everyday life for most locals, whose farmland, homes or schools are overshadowed by the military presence,” NYT added.
Yet, a former White House adviser on South Asian affairs, Joshua White, warned that India could pursue “a limited military action, more useful for catharsis than deterrence”.
“The sad reality is that until and unless Pakistan itself makes a decision to stop harbouring groups like Jaish-e-Mohammad, there is little that India or the United States can do to diminish the threat of these devastating attacks,” he said.
Marvin Weinbaum, the senior most scholar of South Asian affairs in Washington, noted that the ruling party in India was in trouble and therefore “it could see a strong retaliatory action as a way to mustering support”.
Michael Kugelman, Woodrow Wilson Centre, Washington, said: “How exactly India responds will depend on how much risk it’s willing to take on if it chooses to escalate.”
Mr Kugelman also identified some non-military actions that India could take, such as cutting off diplomatic ties with Pakistan or revoking the Indus Waters Treaty.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1464358
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I'm just surprised that at least they r admitting to local attacker and local explosives..
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Think you need to get a grasp of history. In 1971 war, along the border region of Longewala, a small battalion of Indian soldiers go up against a 2000 well armed Pakistani strike force. Yet India beat Pakistan within couple of days and Bangladesh was formed. Beating Pakistan in war is no biggie for India....they have done it 4 times before and can very well do it again. But attacking Pakistan means China gets imvolved and that is where the issue lies.
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Blood is blood, whether it's of Indians, Kashmiris or Pakistanis
Very strange pattern of events which i have noticed.
First of all as usual, after the attack right within 05 minutes Indian media and politicians "Claimed" that the attacks are organized from obviously Pakistan.
Incident happens when In a matter of few weeks Modi is set to initiate his election campaign? There is a clear pattern of deceit on the part of Modi’s government handling of this Pulwama attack affair. Without any evidence, or thorough investigation, blames were put on Pakistan.
Iran always pays close attention to Saudi Arabia’s visit to Pakistan, and India is aware of it. It is among the objectives of Indian foreign policy to isolate Pakistan from Iran.
You never know may be it's India's own GOV who is framingPakistan as a terrorist state on the visit of Saudi crown prince Muhammad Bin Salman cunningly and subliminally trying to gain an advantage in its foreign policy with Iran by checkmating and framing both the Saudis and Pakistanis at the same time
Thing which confused me alot that India has around some lakhs of army in IOK, 100,000 police, around 30,000 special police officers, hundreds of pro-Indian-government militants, state intelligence, central intelligence agency, RAW, dedicated military satellites and other advanced defense equipment present in India occupied Jammu and Kashmir which makes it one of the “world’s most militarized zone” by India alone and there are more than 5 checkposts in every KM of the area.
Then how around 350KG of explosive material went un-detected?
Also, this attack happened just a few days after the visit of Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Defense minister Nirmala Seetharaman, same patterns as we had seen earlier in the Uri attack.
Modi Ji did the same stuff in 2002 and won his seat from Gujrat (I hope am not wrong) It's basically saved his job in 2002 and now same is being repeated.
Two years ago Kashmir witnessed one of its bloodiest periods in the aftermath of freedom fighter Buhran Wani’s murder by the Indian Army. More than 100 civilians were killed and thousands injured in bullets and pellets guns etc. As a result of it, the number of young freedom fighters increased
Why Indian media backed by Modi would say that Adil Ahmad Dar is a Pakistani agent? Even if we for a moment accept that it was not a false flag how can India deny this reality that this guy who attacked was Indian Occupied Kashmiri resident and never had been to Pakistan? His house was burnt by Indian troops in 2018 and women were disgraced. And also according to India's own media the explosive were obtained locally.
In the end, blood is blood whether it's of Indias Kashmiris or Pakistanis.
RIP all.
Very strange pattern of events which i have noticed.
First of all as usual, after the attack right within 05 minutes Indian media and politicians "Claimed" that the attacks are organized from obviously Pakistan.
Incident happens when In a matter of few weeks Modi is set to initiate his election campaign? There is a clear pattern of deceit on the part of Modi’s government handling of this Pulwama attack affair. Without any evidence, or thorough investigation, blames were put on Pakistan.
Iran always pays close attention to Saudi Arabia’s visit to Pakistan, and India is aware of it. It is among the objectives of Indian foreign policy to isolate Pakistan from Iran.
You never know may be it's India's own GOV who is framingPakistan as a terrorist state on the visit of Saudi crown prince Muhammad Bin Salman cunningly and subliminally trying to gain an advantage in its foreign policy with Iran by checkmating and framing both the Saudis and Pakistanis at the same time
Thing which confused me alot that India has around some lakhs of army in IOK, 100,000 police, around 30,000 special police officers, hundreds of pro-Indian-government militants, state intelligence, central intelligence agency, RAW, dedicated military satellites and other advanced defense equipment present in India occupied Jammu and Kashmir which makes it one of the “world’s most militarized zone” by India alone and there are more than 5 checkposts in every KM of the area.
Then how around 350KG of explosive material went un-detected?
Also, this attack happened just a few days after the visit of Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Defense minister Nirmala Seetharaman, same patterns as we had seen earlier in the Uri attack.
Modi Ji did the same stuff in 2002 and won his seat from Gujrat (I hope am not wrong) It's basically saved his job in 2002 and now same is being repeated.
Two years ago Kashmir witnessed one of its bloodiest periods in the aftermath of freedom fighter Buhran Wani’s murder by the Indian Army. More than 100 civilians were killed and thousands injured in bullets and pellets guns etc. As a result of it, the number of young freedom fighters increased
Why Indian media backed by Modi would say that Adil Ahmad Dar is a Pakistani agent? Even if we for a moment accept that it was not a false flag how can India deny this reality that this guy who attacked was Indian Occupied Kashmiri resident and never had been to Pakistan? His house was burnt by Indian troops in 2018 and women were disgraced. And also according to India's own media the explosive were obtained locally.
In the end, blood is blood whether it's of Indias Kashmiris or Pakistanis.
RIP all.
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Good post
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Jaish, banned terrorist outfit sheltered by Pakistan itself claimed responsibility of the attack. So its not a whim of Indian media to blame Pakistan but ofcourse you choose to live in denial.
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Since 1947, they have been misdirecting and have their heads in the sand to the reality that Kashmiris dont want them on their land and they are nothing but occupiers who have been oppressing the Kashmiris through their terrorist army.
The reality is simple, Kashmiris want them out of their land. Give them their wish, and lets stop this war mongering and blood baths.
The reality is simple, Kashmiris want them out of their land. Give them their wish, and lets stop this war mongering and blood baths.
How is Jaish sheltered by Pakistan. Are you just typing random stuff or do you have any proof? Pakistan has already declared the group as a terrorist group. After the Pathankot attack, Pakistan followed up on the leads provided by India and carried out raids on the offices of JeM.
These are the facts. Everything else is just rumors and hearsay
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New Delhi: Hundreds of students from Kashmir studying in Dehradun have shut themselves in their rooms or whatever accommodation they have been able to find. After a day of protests in the valley town led by the Bajrang Dal, the students “fear for their lives”, as The Wire was told over the phone.
Between 1,500 and 2,000 Kashmiri students study in various colleges and institutes in Dehradun. Several students have been assaulted, while others have been forced out of their rented. Many have also left Dehradun to return home to Kashmir.
“Not everyone can leave. The tickets are very expensive. The route will not be safe either for Kashmiris,” a student told The Wire.
“Mobs have been threatening violence with slogans like ‘Hindustan ki gaddaron ko goli maro’. The mob is on every corner on every street with weapons in their hand. We are scared to move out, go anywhere. We do not know what to do,” another student told The Wire.
Vikas Verma, convenor of the Bajrang Dal in Dehradun, confirmed that students from Kashmir have been subjected to violence. “Yes, they are our targets,” he said. “They have been celebrating the Pulwama attacks. They have been chanting pro Pakistan slogans. We feed them, we keep them in our homes and this is how they pay us back. We will teach them a lesson.”
A group of around 20 women from Kashmir studying in a college on the outskirts of the city, have confined themselves to their rooms as a mob has gathered around their hostel. “It is a massive violent mob which is baying for our blood. We fear for our lives,” a student at the hostel said.
The Bajrang Dal has accused the women of provoking the mob. “There was a rally to pay respects to the martyrs of Pulwama. It was passing their hostel and these girls screamed ‘Pakistan Zindabad’. There is bound to be a reaction to that,” said Verma.
Students stuck in different parts of Dehradun have requested that they be air lifted out of the capital city. “We request the government of India to please air lift us out of Dehradun. We are not safe here. Our life is in danger,” a student said.
Director General (law and order) Ashok Kumar said that the necessary security arrangements have been made to protect the students, but also commented, “People are emotional at this time. The Kashmiri students have also made insensitive comments and provoked people. There is bound to be a reaction. But, we are doing everything to provide them the security cover they need,” he told The Wire.
Source : https://thewire.in/rights/trapped-kashmiri-students-dehradun-bajrang-dal-offensive
Between 1,500 and 2,000 Kashmiri students study in various colleges and institutes in Dehradun. Several students have been assaulted, while others have been forced out of their rented. Many have also left Dehradun to return home to Kashmir.
“Not everyone can leave. The tickets are very expensive. The route will not be safe either for Kashmiris,” a student told The Wire.
“Mobs have been threatening violence with slogans like ‘Hindustan ki gaddaron ko goli maro’. The mob is on every corner on every street with weapons in their hand. We are scared to move out, go anywhere. We do not know what to do,” another student told The Wire.
Vikas Verma, convenor of the Bajrang Dal in Dehradun, confirmed that students from Kashmir have been subjected to violence. “Yes, they are our targets,” he said. “They have been celebrating the Pulwama attacks. They have been chanting pro Pakistan slogans. We feed them, we keep them in our homes and this is how they pay us back. We will teach them a lesson.”
A group of around 20 women from Kashmir studying in a college on the outskirts of the city, have confined themselves to their rooms as a mob has gathered around their hostel. “It is a massive violent mob which is baying for our blood. We fear for our lives,” a student at the hostel said.
The Bajrang Dal has accused the women of provoking the mob. “There was a rally to pay respects to the martyrs of Pulwama. It was passing their hostel and these girls screamed ‘Pakistan Zindabad’. There is bound to be a reaction to that,” said Verma.
Students stuck in different parts of Dehradun have requested that they be air lifted out of the capital city. “We request the government of India to please air lift us out of Dehradun. We are not safe here. Our life is in danger,” a student said.
Director General (law and order) Ashok Kumar said that the necessary security arrangements have been made to protect the students, but also commented, “People are emotional at this time. The Kashmiri students have also made insensitive comments and provoked people. There is bound to be a reaction. But, we are doing everything to provide them the security cover they need,” he told The Wire.
Source : https://thewire.in/rights/trapped-kashmiri-students-dehradun-bajrang-dal-offensive
If this isn't a clear enough message to Indians then they are truely delusional
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Dogs are allowed but Kashmiris are not allowed written at many of the Shops in this city. Wow
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So Modi's election campaign is facing defeat and suddenly someone finds 100'sof Kg explosive and blows up an Ind army convoy. The question as always is who benefits? Def not PK, but Modis gets to win the election or at the very least makes it more likely.
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So bombs are local, the attacker is from Occupied Kashmir, the car was made in India, yet Pakistan is to blame. Haha jahil qaum.
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Even if an Indian comes forward and takes responsibility they will still find a way to blame Pakistan.
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Kashmiri man* Not Indian.
Indians are just full of hate and would blame anything and everything on Pakistan.
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Emotions are starting to cool down, and from the interview it seems that the Americans aren't prepared to support fanciful links to Pakistan which are going to look silly as more facts emerge.
You would like to think the hysterical Indian media will also now take a more reflective look at what is happening in Kashmir. The cycle of violence needs to be reined in.
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I see the Indians have disappeared from the thread.
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If our Baloch situation ever got this bad I am sure all of us here would comment, I mean we all criticise our army badly as it is. Yet they have massive blinkers on and its baffling.
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They’ve gone to enroll into the army..
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As has been brilliantly pointed out, a local man angry at the occupying forces attacks the occupiers with locally sourced explosive and PK is to blame.
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No! none of them have that much courage. Most are happy that poor India is fighting their unjust and not winnable war.
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They are here, and like the Nooras they read everything but disappear when challenged.
No one is worried about your challenges. I won’t debate over the death of a soldier. Internet arguments won’t bring him back.
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Can somebody please explain to me what Pakistan has to do with this attack? From all the info I have read it's pretty clear that the attacker, vehicle, and explosives were all from India. It's not like the Mumbai attacks were they claimed people came from Pakistan. Indians should be upset at their own intelligence agencies as this was a failure on their part. This is what happens when you keep worrying about external forces and let homegrown people become radicalized due to your policies. Pakistan suffered from the same thing.
Why are Indians so quick to buy the narrative and not use any common sense?
Why are Indians so quick to buy the narrative and not use any common sense?
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Post number 264 and you can thank me then
As i have explained, it's pretty much repeat of Gujrat massacre which saved Modi Jii job and now the same thing is happening "Just before elections".
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Blame Pakistan and become a hero of a nation and it will save your job in upcoming elections. Simple.
This is what the agenda of politics, Media and celebrities e.t.c e.t.c agenda is to score some good points.
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It's interesting that when challenged by facts you guys disappeared. The Indians want an echo chamber, not facts. Today's news about the explosives being stolen from the building of a road shows that this attack had nothing to do with PK but it was a revenge attack for the attack on the student.
Re-read my post and understand I don’t see the point of a debate. I don’t see the point in a war either. This incident will simply add to the divide and I don’t see the point in adding to the Internet hate malingering.
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No one is afraid of your challenges. Proving something to you isnt a priority on this forum.
Indians here and around the world have said what they wanted to. No point repeating it again and again.
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The attackers explosives and vehicles all were American or non Afghan in 9/11. Yet the world went to war with Taliban there.
The sword is not to be blamed, the arm that wields it is.
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Inshallah Modi will be removed from govt then.
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After the revelations today from one of your own army men, it's not a surprise that you can't comment. Your narrative is in tatters
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Extremely unfortunate videos coming through with Indians attacking Kashmiri students who have chosen the path of peace and have gone to study in colleges and universities. And these are only few videos which are surfacing. How low can Indian goons stoop?
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But the guy is local and an Indian citizen ( maybe forcibly ) and the weapons are from Ind.
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I agree that war is no good for anyone but when Inds blame PK, and that is proved wrong like today, then we do need to challenge it .
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This comment is so dumb, all 19 of the hijackers weren't American.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">ADVISORY: Fake news about harassment of students from <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Kashmir?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Kashmir</a> is being propagated by various miscreants on social media.<br>CRPF helpline has enquired about complaints about harassment and found them incorrect.<br>These are attempts to invoke hatred<br>Please DO NOT circulate such posts</p>— 
CRPF (@crpfindia) <a href="https://twitter.com/crpfindia/status/1097073158551674881?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 17, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
CRPF (@crpfindia) <a href="https://twitter.com/crpfindia/status/1097073158551674881?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 17, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Kashmiri?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Kashmiri</a> students and general public, presently out of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/kashmir?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#kashmir</a> can contact <a href="https://twitter.com/CRPFmadadgaar?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CRPFmadadgaar</a> on 24x7 toll free number 14411 or SMS us at 7082814411 for speedy assistance in case they face any difficulties/harrasment. <a href="https://twitter.com/crpfindia?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@crpfindia</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/HMOIndia?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@HMOIndia</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/JKZONECRPF?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JKZONECRPF</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/jammusector?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@jammusector</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/crpf_srinagar?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@crpf_srinagar</a> <a href="https://t.co/L2Snvk6uC4">pic.twitter.com/L2Snvk6uC4</a></p>— CRPF Madadgaar (@CRPFmadadgaar) <a href="https://twitter.com/CRPFmadadgaar/status/1096780910668726278?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 16, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
This is a good video for lot of Pakistanis..who are not seeing through outsider's eye..in fact these 2 are Pakistanis living outside Pakistan and can see with more non bias lens..
https://youtu.be/cnYPSQoJSlg
https://youtu.be/cnYPSQoJSlg
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Here's a good video for Indians who are too blinded by the state run propaganda to think for themselves. Here's an unbiased view by Indians on how India is manipulating the narrative.
https://youtu.be/IJO7c9HcCzU
https://youtu.be/IJO7c9HcCzU
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Modi has played well here and emotional public of India who can’t even spell Pulwama properly have started harassing Kashmiris in India and violent protests without even thinking it’s just an immature and foolish act you can protest and show support but not harrass anyone who hasn’t done anything
I also agree about other immature section of Kashmiri students and workers in India who posted on their Facebook accounts showing happiness on this attack they were expelled from their university and jobs which is understandable. If u hate India then why bother going there ?
At same time without even thinking the politicians and celebrities including the general people have suddenly started to show their care and looking to take revenge from Pakistan
Did anyone look into the issue? You have deployed crpf here and told them live at your own mercy
Why indian govt can’t look to resolve the issue so their jawans feel better too and eventually killing won’t happen
You know condition of crpfs here just about 300 steps from my home they have a camp that isworst than animal room with no proper toilet facility surving in cold temperature this is what govt facility to crpf here in Srinagar
And people are talking about war having no idea what your govt has done to solve the issue and for your jawans
Why are Kashmiris taking arms ? Before they used to say pakistan gives them money so they do this when educated youth , a university scholar who takes 1 lakh ruppes salary why he had to join then .
Did govt adress this ? They all are busy doing fake rallies making public fool and sadly the indian public falls prey
I also agree about other immature section of Kashmiri students and workers in India who posted on their Facebook accounts showing happiness on this attack they were expelled from their university and jobs which is understandable. If u hate India then why bother going there ?
At same time without even thinking the politicians and celebrities including the general people have suddenly started to show their care and looking to take revenge from Pakistan
Did anyone look into the issue? You have deployed crpf here and told them live at your own mercy
Why indian govt can’t look to resolve the issue so their jawans feel better too and eventually killing won’t happen
You know condition of crpfs here just about 300 steps from my home they have a camp that isworst than animal room with no proper toilet facility surving in cold temperature this is what govt facility to crpf here in Srinagar
And people are talking about war having no idea what your govt has done to solve the issue and for your jawans
Why are Kashmiris taking arms ? Before they used to say pakistan gives them money so they do this when educated youth , a university scholar who takes 1 lakh ruppes salary why he had to join then .
Did govt adress this ? They all are busy doing fake rallies making public fool and sadly the indian public falls prey
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Moodi himself is behind this attack so that he can win the election by igniting Anti-Pakistan and Anti-Muslim sentiments
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">ADVISORY: Fake news about harassment of students from <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Kashmir?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Kashmir</a> is being propagated by various miscreants on social media.<br>CRPF helpline has enquired about complaints about harassment and found them incorrect.<br>These are attempts to invoke hatred<br>Please DO NOT circulate such posts</p>—
Rubbish, i have family members studying in many parts of India and they can confirm that they have asked to leave or face consequences.
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You have any proof of it or it was one of those 'Bin Laden was never hiding in Pakistan' kinda belief.
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This indeed a very good move to find out how many Kashmiris are still left in India & what exactly there location is.
A local Kashimiri male, using a local vehicle and locally sourced explosives (per Indian General) attacks occupation forces. So where does Pakistan come in this equation?
Other than a tweet from some tom or dick or harry claiming for JeM?
Was the bomber trained in Pakistan and sent over? were the explosives (all 300 kgs) smuggled from Pakistan or provided -- NO
Also looking at the video of the purported bomber, he has a US Army standard issue M4 carbine in hand and M249 Squad automatic weapon with laser designator/ranger installed in the backgroud. These are quite sophisticated and expensive weapons. They have been found by Pak Army in Swat & FATA when they routed the TTP from there provided to the miscreants by Afghan army. Usually you see Ak-47 or Chinese Type 56 rifles with the resistance forces because they are cheaper and easier to maintain. Which lends me to believe either the video was created in Afghanistan under Indian friends shadow or the resistance in Kashmir is fairly advanced.
This happening a month before the election also points towards a false flag operation. How was a truck allowed to come near a convoy of 2400 para military personnel? Usually when such a large convoy is moving, you have heavy force protection around it.
Please read up Gulf or Tonkin incident or Reichstag fire.
Other than a tweet from some tom or dick or harry claiming for JeM?
Was the bomber trained in Pakistan and sent over? were the explosives (all 300 kgs) smuggled from Pakistan or provided -- NO
Also looking at the video of the purported bomber, he has a US Army standard issue M4 carbine in hand and M249 Squad automatic weapon with laser designator/ranger installed in the backgroud. These are quite sophisticated and expensive weapons. They have been found by Pak Army in Swat & FATA when they routed the TTP from there provided to the miscreants by Afghan army. Usually you see Ak-47 or Chinese Type 56 rifles with the resistance forces because they are cheaper and easier to maintain. Which lends me to believe either the video was created in Afghanistan under Indian friends shadow or the resistance in Kashmir is fairly advanced.
This happening a month before the election also points towards a false flag operation. How was a truck allowed to come near a convoy of 2400 para military personnel? Usually when such a large convoy is moving, you have heavy force protection around it.
Please read up Gulf or Tonkin incident or Reichstag fire.
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Bin Laden was hidden in Pakistan or not but America has come to table to talk. The day you people will understand this will be better. You peoples are not fighting against an army you peoples are fighting against an ideology or against the dogma. You didn't find anything in last 30 years with the gun & will not find anything in the next 30 years with the guns.
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I could be in the minority, but part of me is feeling something dodgy about this whole supposed terrorist attack at a time of election. This bomb going off has taken public attention away from Congress and all the things they were trying to do to win the election. The focus is once again back on Namo (Modi) if he plays his cards right he will win the next term from here.... However I am also open to the idea Pakistan could have been behind the attack as well, I am 50-50 at the moment.
Now to your post, it does not matter guns, ideology or anything else, we wont give our side of Kashmir to anyone, no matter how much infighting etc goes on between Indians, the minute you mention the word Kashmir, 1 billion Indians from India and all over the world unite. Pakistan knows this as well, they know they will never get Kashmir however they need this problem so their military can be in control, so what the avg Pak citizens say about Kashmir being taken from India is nothing more than words..
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Four soldiers including an officer were killed in an overnight encounter with Jaish-e-Mohammad terrorists in Jammu and Kashmir's Pulwama, just 10 km from the site where over 40 soldiers were killed in a terror attack by the same terror group on February 14. Two terrorists, one of them suspected to be the bomb maker, have been killed.
The soldiers killed in the operation belonged to the 55 Rashtriya Rifles. A civilian was also killed in the encounter, said the police.
A targeted operation was launched a little after midnight on a tip-off that three Jaish terrorists, including the handler of the Pulwama suicide bomber Adil Ahmed Dar, were hiding in Pinglan, sources have told NDTV. The firing resumed around 9 am as the forces assessed that two or three Jaish terrorists were still hiding in the area.
Personnel of the 55 Rashtriya Rifles, two batallions of the CRPF and the Special Operation Group of the Jammu and Kashmir police were involved in the encounter. Two soldiers have also been injured.
The main target of the operation was Gazi, a terrorist believed to be the mastermind of the February 14 attack, the worst on security forces in Kashmir. On that day, Adil Ahmed Dar drove his car close to a CRPF convoy of 78 buses on the Jammu-Srinagar highway and detonated around 60 kg of RDX, killing over 40 personnel reporting to duty after leave. Gazi was the bomb-maker, believe investigators, sources told NDTV.
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/4-a...ammu-and-kashmir-1995055?pfrom=home-topscroll
The soldiers killed in the operation belonged to the 55 Rashtriya Rifles. A civilian was also killed in the encounter, said the police.
A targeted operation was launched a little after midnight on a tip-off that three Jaish terrorists, including the handler of the Pulwama suicide bomber Adil Ahmed Dar, were hiding in Pinglan, sources have told NDTV. The firing resumed around 9 am as the forces assessed that two or three Jaish terrorists were still hiding in the area.
Personnel of the 55 Rashtriya Rifles, two batallions of the CRPF and the Special Operation Group of the Jammu and Kashmir police were involved in the encounter. Two soldiers have also been injured.
The main target of the operation was Gazi, a terrorist believed to be the mastermind of the February 14 attack, the worst on security forces in Kashmir. On that day, Adil Ahmed Dar drove his car close to a CRPF convoy of 78 buses on the Jammu-Srinagar highway and detonated around 60 kg of RDX, killing over 40 personnel reporting to duty after leave. Gazi was the bomb-maker, believe investigators, sources told NDTV.
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/4-a...ammu-and-kashmir-1995055?pfrom=home-topscroll
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OK and what did you get from unity of 1.3 billion peoples on one point? Dead bodies of soldiers. It's easy to say that soldiers are hired to sacrifice their lives, ask this from a child of that soldier, he won't answer you but his expression less face tell you that he is orphan Bcz of his state's false ego.
And for your second part, if you have selected Pakistan as a bench mark then you must be foolish peoples in world.
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Can you show me where I have selected Pakistan as a bench mark ? No where did I say India should use Pakistan as a bench mark for their progress.
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OK and what did you get from unity of 1.3 billion peoples on one point? Dead bodies of soldiers. It's easy to say that soldiers are hired to sacrifice their lives, ask this from a child of that soldier, he won't answer you but his expression less face tell you that he is orphan Bcz of his state's false ego.
And for your second part, if you have selected Pakistan as a bench mark then you must be foolish peoples in world.
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Pakistan shares its findings with India on Pulwama attack
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan on Wednesday shared its findings with India on Pulwama attack in Indian-occupied Kashmir (IoK), which had left 44 Indian paramilitary soldiers dead last month.
The Government of Pakistan has shared preliminary findings with the Government of India after examining the Indian report on Pulwama incident, said a statement issued from the Foreign Office of Pakistan.
The findings were shared through the Indian high commissioner in Islamabad, who was summoned to the Foreign Office by Pakistan's Foreign Secretary Tehmina Janjua.
Prime Minister Imran Khan had earlier offered cooperation in investigation of Pulwama attack, if credible evidence was provided by India.
In response to the offer, a paper was handed over to Pakistan on February 27.
"Pakistan has acted with a high sense of responsibility and extended full cooperation," the Foreign Office further said in its statement. "We do so in the interest of regional peace and security."
The statement, however, said that Pakistan had sought further information or evidence from India to take the process forward.
https://www.geo.tv/latest/232336-pakistan-shares-its-findings-with-india-on-pulwama-attack
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan on Wednesday shared its findings with India on Pulwama attack in Indian-occupied Kashmir (IoK), which had left 44 Indian paramilitary soldiers dead last month.
The Government of Pakistan has shared preliminary findings with the Government of India after examining the Indian report on Pulwama incident, said a statement issued from the Foreign Office of Pakistan.
The findings were shared through the Indian high commissioner in Islamabad, who was summoned to the Foreign Office by Pakistan's Foreign Secretary Tehmina Janjua.
Prime Minister Imran Khan had earlier offered cooperation in investigation of Pulwama attack, if credible evidence was provided by India.
In response to the offer, a paper was handed over to Pakistan on February 27.
"Pakistan has acted with a high sense of responsibility and extended full cooperation," the Foreign Office further said in its statement. "We do so in the interest of regional peace and security."
The statement, however, said that Pakistan had sought further information or evidence from India to take the process forward.
https://www.geo.tv/latest/232336-pakistan-shares-its-findings-with-india-on-pulwama-attack
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