Stop being so touchy. IoK, The Kashmir Files film and hijab are all intertwined. One leads to the other and yes Kashmiris in IoK are under occupation. Now you will say that has nothing to do with this thread!
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Stop being so touchy. IoK, The Kashmir Files film and hijab are all intertwined. One leads to the other and yes Kashmiris in IoK are under occupation. Now you will say that has nothing to do with this thread!
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That this film is based on an honest analysis and on how Kashmiri people feel is totally false. No mention of how many Muslim's have been killed by the Indian occupational forces. Only telling viewers on what was done to the Hindu pundits is what makes it propaganda.
Ask the Kashmiris first and foremost if India is the invader and they will say "yes". If not than you would not have thousands of soldiers killing innocent people. Soldiers in such high numbers do not kill free people like we don't see soldiers in London or NYC killing people then saying we are protecting you.
Did you not see Modi walking away from Karan Thapar when put on the spot over the Gujarat riots? He had no answer to the accusations confirming that he was and is responsible. So if ladies in India are free to wear hijab in school then why are the Hindu's always making a fuss about it tell me that ace? Now these Hindu's are seeing temples under the Taj Mahal, Charminar and even Jamia Masjid I hear? Once more why will you not allow your Muslim ladies to observe hijab if your law allows it?
You will see it is Hindu saffron nutcases who are openly calling for Muslim genocide at their conclaves. If you don't know I can show you video's? As for the letter well i can not find the link now but i read it years back on the web. If Kashmiris say India is an occupational force then that is what ultimately matters.
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Bollywood filmmaker and The Kashmir Files director, Vivek Agnihotri, has threatened legal action against the Oxford University union after the varsity allegedly postponed his address from next week to July 1.
Agnihotri was apparently asked to speak at Oxford University about his latest offering. However, according to The Indian Express, his address was 'cancelled' at the last minute and the director is calling out the varsity for 'curbing Hindu voice after a few Kashmiri-Pakistani students protested against the event.
"As you are aware that I am here in Europe on a humanity tour. This tour was decided because a lot of prestigious places invited me like Cambridge University, Oxford University, the British Parliament and a lot of places in Germany and the Netherland. But yesterday, a very strange thing happened. When I reached Cambridge University, at the last minute, I was told that we cannot video record the event," Agnihotri shared in a video message on Twitter.
He added, "Now, this is a 100% curbing of freedom of expression. This happened because a few Pakistani and Kashmiri Muslim students protested against it. These are genocide denials, they are fascists. Their logic is, perhaps, what they write on social media that I support a democratically elected Government of India."
Agnihotri went on to add, "This is the same university where Subhash Chandra Bose studied but recently on his 150th birth anniversary Bose was called a fascist."
Talking about the Oxford event, the director said, "Now another strange thing happened. Today I was supposed to speak at Oxford University because Oxford Union invited me a long time ago. It was all confirmed via emails, but just a few hours before they said, 'Sorry we made a mistake, there was a double-booking and we cannot host you today.' And without even asking me, they changed the date to July 1, when no student would be there, and there is no point in doing an event."
Adding fuel to the fire, the filmmaker shared, "They are not cancelling me, they are cancelling the genocide and they are cancelling the Hindus. As if killing thousand of Kashmiri Hindus was not Hinduphobic but making a film on the truth is Islamophobic."
Ahmad Nawaz is the president-elect of the oxford Union. The same university hosted dictators and fascists including Bhutto's son and many African radical extremists, Agnihotri said. "So please help me in this cause. I am filing a lawsuit against them. I am going to claim all the damages. Please support me and join me," he said.
https://tribune.com.pk/story/235966...s-director-threatens-to-sue-oxford-university
Agnihotri was apparently asked to speak at Oxford University about his latest offering. However, according to The Indian Express, his address was 'cancelled' at the last minute and the director is calling out the varsity for 'curbing Hindu voice after a few Kashmiri-Pakistani students protested against the event.
"As you are aware that I am here in Europe on a humanity tour. This tour was decided because a lot of prestigious places invited me like Cambridge University, Oxford University, the British Parliament and a lot of places in Germany and the Netherland. But yesterday, a very strange thing happened. When I reached Cambridge University, at the last minute, I was told that we cannot video record the event," Agnihotri shared in a video message on Twitter.
He added, "Now, this is a 100% curbing of freedom of expression. This happened because a few Pakistani and Kashmiri Muslim students protested against it. These are genocide denials, they are fascists. Their logic is, perhaps, what they write on social media that I support a democratically elected Government of India."
Agnihotri went on to add, "This is the same university where Subhash Chandra Bose studied but recently on his 150th birth anniversary Bose was called a fascist."
Talking about the Oxford event, the director said, "Now another strange thing happened. Today I was supposed to speak at Oxford University because Oxford Union invited me a long time ago. It was all confirmed via emails, but just a few hours before they said, 'Sorry we made a mistake, there was a double-booking and we cannot host you today.' And without even asking me, they changed the date to July 1, when no student would be there, and there is no point in doing an event."
Adding fuel to the fire, the filmmaker shared, "They are not cancelling me, they are cancelling the genocide and they are cancelling the Hindus. As if killing thousand of Kashmiri Hindus was not Hinduphobic but making a film on the truth is Islamophobic."
Ahmad Nawaz is the president-elect of the oxford Union. The same university hosted dictators and fascists including Bhutto's son and many African radical extremists, Agnihotri said. "So please help me in this cause. I am filing a lawsuit against them. I am going to claim all the damages. Please support me and join me," he said.
https://tribune.com.pk/story/235966...s-director-threatens-to-sue-oxford-university
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New Delhi: The jury board of the 53rd International Film Festival in Goa today distanced itself from its head's remarks on 'The Kashmir Files', calling them "completely his personal opinion".
Here are top 10 points on this big story
The board's statement comes after the head of the jury and Israeli filmmaker Nadav Lapid's remarks at the closing ceremony of the film festival sparked a huge row. Mr Lapid yesterday said the jury was "disturbed and shocked" at the screening of the film at the festival.
"It seemed to us like a propagandist movie inappropriate for an artistic, competitive section of such a prestigious film festival. I feel totally comfortable to share openly these feelings here with you on stage. Since the spirit of having a festival is to accept also a critical discussion, which is essential for art and for life," he said.
'The Kashmir Files', written and directed by Vivek Agnihotri, is based on the exodus of Kashmiri Pandits from the Valley at the height of militancy in the 90s. The movie, promoted by BJP leaders, was a commercial success, but faced allegations of fanning communal sentiments.
While some have praised Mr Lapid for "calling out propaganda", others have accused him of being insensitive towards the suffering of Kashmiri Pandits, despite being part of a community that faced the horrors of the Holocaust.
Amid the row, the IFFI Jury Board today issued a statement, saying that whatever Mr Lapid said about the movie is his "personal opinion" and "nothing to do" with the board.
"In the official presentation of the Jury Board to the Festival Director and in the official Press Conference, where we 4 juries were present and interacted with the press, we never mentioned anything about our likes or dislikes. Both were our official collective opinion," the board said.
"As a juror, we are assigned to judge the technical, aesthetic quality and socio-cultural relevance of the film. We don't indulge in any kind of political comments on any film and if it is done, it is completely in personal capacity," it added in its statement.
Among those who slammed the Israel filmmaker is the country's ambassador to India, Naor Gilon. In a Twitter thread, he said Mr Lapid "should be ashamed". "You have abused in the worst way the Indian invitation to chair the panel of judges at @IFFIGoa as well as the trust, respect and warm hospitality they have bestowed on you."
"I'm no film expert but I do know that it's insensitive and presumptuous to speak about historic events before deeply studying them and which are an open wound in India because many of the involved are still around and still paying a price," the Ambassador added.
Actor Anupam Kher, who played the protagonist in the movie, too, slammed the Israel filmmaker for his remarks. "May God give him wisdom. If the holocaust is right, then the exodus of Kashmiri Pandits is also right," the actor said.
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The board's statement comes after the head of the jury and Israeli filmmaker Nadav Lapid's remarks at the closing ceremony of the film festival sparked a huge row. Mr Lapid yesterday said the jury was "disturbed and shocked" at the screening of the film at the festival.
"It seemed to us like a propagandist movie inappropriate for an artistic, competitive section of such a prestigious film festival. I feel totally comfortable to share openly these feelings here with you on stage. Since the spirit of having a festival is to accept also a critical discussion, which is essential for art and for life," he said.
'The Kashmir Files', written and directed by Vivek Agnihotri, is based on the exodus of Kashmiri Pandits from the Valley at the height of militancy in the 90s. The movie, promoted by BJP leaders, was a commercial success, but faced allegations of fanning communal sentiments.
While some have praised Mr Lapid for "calling out propaganda", others have accused him of being insensitive towards the suffering of Kashmiri Pandits, despite being part of a community that faced the horrors of the Holocaust.
Amid the row, the IFFI Jury Board today issued a statement, saying that whatever Mr Lapid said about the movie is his "personal opinion" and "nothing to do" with the board.
"In the official presentation of the Jury Board to the Festival Director and in the official Press Conference, where we 4 juries were present and interacted with the press, we never mentioned anything about our likes or dislikes. Both were our official collective opinion," the board said.
"As a juror, we are assigned to judge the technical, aesthetic quality and socio-cultural relevance of the film. We don't indulge in any kind of political comments on any film and if it is done, it is completely in personal capacity," it added in its statement.
Among those who slammed the Israel filmmaker is the country's ambassador to India, Naor Gilon. In a Twitter thread, he said Mr Lapid "should be ashamed". "You have abused in the worst way the Indian invitation to chair the panel of judges at @IFFIGoa as well as the trust, respect and warm hospitality they have bestowed on you."
"I'm no film expert but I do know that it's insensitive and presumptuous to speak about historic events before deeply studying them and which are an open wound in India because many of the involved are still around and still paying a price," the Ambassador added.
Actor Anupam Kher, who played the protagonist in the movie, too, slammed the Israel filmmaker for his remarks. "May God give him wisdom. If the holocaust is right, then the exodus of Kashmiri Pandits is also right," the actor said.
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Israel's ambassador to India today came down heavily on a filmmaker from his country, who called 'The Kashmir Files' a "propaganda" and "vulgar movie" at the International Film Festival of India (IFFI) in Goa. Envoy Naor Gilon also apologized to India in an "open letter" on Twitter, a day after jury head Nadav Lapid slammed the movie at the closing ceremony of the film festival yesterday.
'The Kashmir Files', directed by Vivek Agnihotri, revolves around the exodus and killing of Kashmiri Pandits from the Kashmir Valley in 1990. It has been mired in controversy since its release in March.
"An open letter to #NadavLapid following his criticism of #KashmirFiles. It's not in Hebrew because I wanted our Indian brothers and sisters to be able to understand. It is also relatively long so I'll give you the bottom line first. YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED. Here's why," tweeted Lapid this morning.
Gilon said Lapid abused the Indian invitation to the judges' panel in the "worst way".
"In Indian culture they say that a guest is like God. You have abused in the worst way the Indian invitation to chair the panel of judges at @IFFIGoa as well as the trust, respect and warm hospitality they have bestowed on you," he added.
The envoy said the Israelis should be humble as Indians are a lot of Israeli content, including Fauda TV series. "I'm no film expert but I do know that it's insensitive and presumptuous to speak about historic events before deeply studying them and which are an open wound in India because many of the involved are still around and still paying a price," he said in a long thread of tweets.
Gilon said he was "extremely hurt" to see the reactions in India that Lapid was doubting Holocaust and Schindler's List, a movie based on Holocaust.
"I unequivocally condemn such statements. There is no justification. It does show the sensitivity of the Kashmir issue here," said the envoy. "From your interview to Ynet the connection you make between your criticism of #KashmirFiles and your dislike to what is happening in Israeli politics was quite evident."
The India-Israel ties are very strong and will survive the "damages" inflicted by his remarks, Gilon said in his tweets addressed to Lapid.
"As a human being I feel ashamed and want to apologize to our hosts for the bad manner in which we repaid them for their generosity and friendship," said the envoy.
BJP leader Khushbu Sundar thanked Gilon and said his words acted like a "balm of comfort". "The pain and trauma depicted in the film is not a display of distorted history but what Kasmiri pundits actually went through," she said.
Jury head Lapid had yesterday said the jurors at the film festival were "disturbed and shocked" by 'The Kashmir Files'. "That felt to us like a propaganda, vulgar movie, inappropriate for an artistic competitive section of such a prestigious film festival," he said. However, the jury board has distanced itself from his remarks, calling them his "personal opinion".
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'The Kashmir Files', directed by Vivek Agnihotri, revolves around the exodus and killing of Kashmiri Pandits from the Kashmir Valley in 1990. It has been mired in controversy since its release in March.
"An open letter to #NadavLapid following his criticism of #KashmirFiles. It's not in Hebrew because I wanted our Indian brothers and sisters to be able to understand. It is also relatively long so I'll give you the bottom line first. YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED. Here's why," tweeted Lapid this morning.
Gilon said Lapid abused the Indian invitation to the judges' panel in the "worst way".
"In Indian culture they say that a guest is like God. You have abused in the worst way the Indian invitation to chair the panel of judges at @IFFIGoa as well as the trust, respect and warm hospitality they have bestowed on you," he added.
The envoy said the Israelis should be humble as Indians are a lot of Israeli content, including Fauda TV series. "I'm no film expert but I do know that it's insensitive and presumptuous to speak about historic events before deeply studying them and which are an open wound in India because many of the involved are still around and still paying a price," he said in a long thread of tweets.
Gilon said he was "extremely hurt" to see the reactions in India that Lapid was doubting Holocaust and Schindler's List, a movie based on Holocaust.
"I unequivocally condemn such statements. There is no justification. It does show the sensitivity of the Kashmir issue here," said the envoy. "From your interview to Ynet the connection you make between your criticism of #KashmirFiles and your dislike to what is happening in Israeli politics was quite evident."
The India-Israel ties are very strong and will survive the "damages" inflicted by his remarks, Gilon said in his tweets addressed to Lapid.
"As a human being I feel ashamed and want to apologize to our hosts for the bad manner in which we repaid them for their generosity and friendship," said the envoy.
BJP leader Khushbu Sundar thanked Gilon and said his words acted like a "balm of comfort". "The pain and trauma depicted in the film is not a display of distorted history but what Kasmiri pundits actually went through," she said.
Jury head Lapid had yesterday said the jurors at the film festival were "disturbed and shocked" by 'The Kashmir Files'. "That felt to us like a propaganda, vulgar movie, inappropriate for an artistic competitive section of such a prestigious film festival," he said. However, the jury board has distanced itself from his remarks, calling them his "personal opinion".
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The jury members have also distanced themselves of this remark by Lapid, calling it a personal opinion.
Obviously, the ambassador is extremely hurt. Their regime is doing the exact same thing i.e. brutally oppressing the Palestinians and then crying about to western media about being oppositely oppressed and making that look mainstream.
Lots of synergies.
Lots of synergies.
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Everyone who watches the film will know it is a propaganda piece, no one should be surprised if viewers are surprised with how blatant it is. The only ones who will deny it are those who push the same propaganda themselves.
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Its both vulgar and propaganda. Even the indians know it, they just wanted to hear it from an Israeli in their own backyard to feel ashamed. Shameless behaviour.
Need more cinema on the brutal state oppression instead.
Need more cinema on the brutal state oppression instead.
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Its the story of genocide of minorities by islamists. It was supported by a neighbouring country in the name of "freedom struggle".
No wonder posters on this forum and the leftist apologists of islamists find the film problematic.
May be you should point out which part of the movie was a propoganda?
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Here they come, the BJP propaganda wing right on cue.
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Rather than name calling, why don't you point out the propoganda part of the film?
That is what I have been asking on this thread from 1st page i.e what is the propaganda? If yes, pls highlight it. But all I see is hollow generic responses rather than anything specific.
"Will Quit Films If...": 'The Kashmir Files' Director's Challenge To Jury
New Delhi: Vivek Agnihotri, the director of 'The Kashmir Files', today challenged Israeli filmmaker Nadav Lapid to find an event in the movie that is not true.
"Today, I challenge all the intellectuals in this world and this great filmmaker from Israel to find one frame, one dialogue or an event in The Kashmir Files that is not true," Vivek Agnihotri said in a video.
The filmmaker said that if anybody finds a frame that is not true in 'The Kashmir Files', he would stop making movies.
Mr Agnihotri's reaction comes a day after Nadav Lapid termed 'The Kashmir Files' as a "propaganda movie" and "vulgar" at the closing ceremony of the 53rd International Film Festival of India (IFFI). He had served as the chairperson of the international competition jury at the IFFI.
The Kashmir Files' was screened at IFFI on November 22 as a part of the Indian Panorama Section. The movie is based on the exodus of the Kashmiri Pandits from the Valley in the 1990s.
Mr Lapid's comments on the movie, one of the most talked about films of the year, sparked a controversy on social media with reactions pouring in from various quarters.
Vivek Agnihotri said that this is not the first time he has heard such criticism about the movie.
"Terrorist organisations, urban Naxals and those who want to break India in tukde-tukde (pieces) always say this," the 49-year-old said.
Veteran actor Anupam Kher, who starred in "The Kashmir Files", said the truth will always trump falsehood.
Congress spokesperson Supriya Shrinate said that hate eventually gets called out.
"PM Modi, his govt, BJP, the RW ecosystem feverishly promoted 'The Kashmir Files'. A movie rejected by International Film Festival Of India. Jury Head Nadav Lapid called it 'propaganda, vulgar movie - inappropriate for the film festival'," Ms Shrinate tweeted.
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New Delhi: Vivek Agnihotri, the director of 'The Kashmir Files', today challenged Israeli filmmaker Nadav Lapid to find an event in the movie that is not true.
"Today, I challenge all the intellectuals in this world and this great filmmaker from Israel to find one frame, one dialogue or an event in The Kashmir Files that is not true," Vivek Agnihotri said in a video.
The filmmaker said that if anybody finds a frame that is not true in 'The Kashmir Files', he would stop making movies.
Mr Agnihotri's reaction comes a day after Nadav Lapid termed 'The Kashmir Files' as a "propaganda movie" and "vulgar" at the closing ceremony of the 53rd International Film Festival of India (IFFI). He had served as the chairperson of the international competition jury at the IFFI.
The Kashmir Files' was screened at IFFI on November 22 as a part of the Indian Panorama Section. The movie is based on the exodus of the Kashmiri Pandits from the Valley in the 1990s.
Mr Lapid's comments on the movie, one of the most talked about films of the year, sparked a controversy on social media with reactions pouring in from various quarters.
Vivek Agnihotri said that this is not the first time he has heard such criticism about the movie.
"Terrorist organisations, urban Naxals and those who want to break India in tukde-tukde (pieces) always say this," the 49-year-old said.
Veteran actor Anupam Kher, who starred in "The Kashmir Files", said the truth will always trump falsehood.
Congress spokesperson Supriya Shrinate said that hate eventually gets called out.
"PM Modi, his govt, BJP, the RW ecosystem feverishly promoted 'The Kashmir Files'. A movie rejected by International Film Festival Of India. Jury Head Nadav Lapid called it 'propaganda, vulgar movie - inappropriate for the film festival'," Ms Shrinate tweeted.
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Sanjay Raut Backs Israel Filmmaker Amid 'The Kashmir Files' Row
Mumbai:
Shiv Sena MP Sanjay Raut on Tuesday came in support of the International Film Festival of India (IFFI), Jury Head Nadav Lapid's remarks on "The Kashmir Files" movie, and said that the film has been politicized after its release and has caused more Kashmiri Pandits to suffer.
"It's true about the Kashmir Files. There was propaganda by one party against another. A party and government were busy with publicity. But a maximum number of killings in Kashmir occurred after this film. Kashmir Pandits, security personnel were killed," Sanjay Raut said while commenting on IFFI Jury Head's remark.
"The film has been politicized after its release and has made more Kashmiri Pandits suffer. After the film, more attacks on Kashmiri Pandits started. Will we make a part 2 of it?" Raut said while speaking to reporters.
"Where were these Kashmir files people, when Kashmiri Pandits were being attacked? Some of the money earned from movies should be given to the Kashmiri Pandits," he demanded.
IFFI Jury Head Nadav Lapid called the film "propaganda, vulgar" at the festival's closing ceremony on Monday.
A video from the festival went viral in which Lapid is seen making controversial remarks about the film. One of the members of the festival's PR team confirmed to ANI that the Israeli filmmaker made the remark at the closing ceremony.
"I would like to thank the head of the festival and the director of the programming for the cinematic richness of the programme, for its diversity, for its complexity. It was intense. We saw seven films in the debutant competition, and 15 films in the international competition, the front window of the festival. 14 out of them had cinematic qualities, defaults and evoked vivid discussions," he said in his speech.
"All of us were disturbed and shocked by the 15th film, The Kashmir Files. That felt like a propaganda, vulgar movie, inappropriate for an artistic competitive section of such a prestigious film festival. I feel comfortable openly sharing these feelings with you on this stage. In the spirit of this festival, can surely also accept a critical discussion, which is essential for art and life," he further said.
Lapid's remarks sparked a row with politicians from all across the country reacting to his statement.
Rajasthan Leader of Opposition Gulab Chand Kataria also commented on the controversy and said many people watched the movie after its release. "I am not fond of movies. But I have heard that most of the Indians have watched 'the Kashmir Files'," said Kataria.
'The Kashmir Files' was released earlier this year in theatres and it told the story of the Hindu exodus in the 1990s and targeted killings of the Kashmiri Pandits.
The movie became one of the highest-grossing Bollywood movies of 2022 and Anupam Kher received acclaim for his performance.
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Shiv Sena MP Sanjay Raut on Tuesday came in support of the International Film Festival of India (IFFI), Jury Head Nadav Lapid's remarks on "The Kashmir Files" movie, and said that the film has been politicized after its release and has caused more Kashmiri Pandits to suffer.
"It's true about the Kashmir Files. There was propaganda by one party against another. A party and government were busy with publicity. But a maximum number of killings in Kashmir occurred after this film. Kashmir Pandits, security personnel were killed," Sanjay Raut said while commenting on IFFI Jury Head's remark.
"The film has been politicized after its release and has made more Kashmiri Pandits suffer. After the film, more attacks on Kashmiri Pandits started. Will we make a part 2 of it?" Raut said while speaking to reporters.
"Where were these Kashmir files people, when Kashmiri Pandits were being attacked? Some of the money earned from movies should be given to the Kashmiri Pandits," he demanded.
IFFI Jury Head Nadav Lapid called the film "propaganda, vulgar" at the festival's closing ceremony on Monday.
A video from the festival went viral in which Lapid is seen making controversial remarks about the film. One of the members of the festival's PR team confirmed to ANI that the Israeli filmmaker made the remark at the closing ceremony.
"I would like to thank the head of the festival and the director of the programming for the cinematic richness of the programme, for its diversity, for its complexity. It was intense. We saw seven films in the debutant competition, and 15 films in the international competition, the front window of the festival. 14 out of them had cinematic qualities, defaults and evoked vivid discussions," he said in his speech.
"All of us were disturbed and shocked by the 15th film, The Kashmir Files. That felt like a propaganda, vulgar movie, inappropriate for an artistic competitive section of such a prestigious film festival. I feel comfortable openly sharing these feelings with you on this stage. In the spirit of this festival, can surely also accept a critical discussion, which is essential for art and life," he further said.
Lapid's remarks sparked a row with politicians from all across the country reacting to his statement.
Rajasthan Leader of Opposition Gulab Chand Kataria also commented on the controversy and said many people watched the movie after its release. "I am not fond of movies. But I have heard that most of the Indians have watched 'the Kashmir Files'," said Kataria.
'The Kashmir Files' was released earlier this year in theatres and it told the story of the Hindu exodus in the 1990s and targeted killings of the Kashmiri Pandits.
The movie became one of the highest-grossing Bollywood movies of 2022 and Anupam Kher received acclaim for his performance.
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No one is name calling, were you addressed by name?
As for pointing out propaganda, there is no point in debating with people who are not interested in debating, but instead come only to enforce the same propaganda the film is propagating. I would be prepared to discuss with those who have an open mind.
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Kashmir Files is a typical Bollywood junk. It deserves 1 out of 10 for misleading propaganda.
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I watched the trailer of it and one can tell how absolute one sided bollywood junk it is. Not surprised that it's getting exposed for its propaganda and lies.
When is Gujrat Files coming out? Those 3,000 innocent Muslim deserve the voice within India and it should get popular like this IOK Files, but it ll depict their current PM as terrorist which he is for allowing the massacre hence he was not allowed to fly or visit countries on terrorism charges. Reason why huge Hindudva fanatic population love him so much.
They also need to make a factual based movie named 'IOK Files' so their population can learn about terrorism of Indian forces for over 75 years. I mean if you need half a million to million army in one small region for decades, one can easily connect the dots of occupation and terrorism of Indian terrorist forces. Now here comes the rona dhona and drama post of joshila and other toons to defend their terrorism and inhumane treatment of innocent Kashmirirs.
When is Gujrat Files coming out? Those 3,000 innocent Muslim deserve the voice within India and it should get popular like this IOK Files, but it ll depict their current PM as terrorist which he is for allowing the massacre hence he was not allowed to fly or visit countries on terrorism charges. Reason why huge Hindudva fanatic population love him so much.
They also need to make a factual based movie named 'IOK Files' so their population can learn about terrorism of Indian forces for over 75 years. I mean if you need half a million to million army in one small region for decades, one can easily connect the dots of occupation and terrorism of Indian terrorist forces. Now here comes the rona dhona and drama post of joshila and other toons to defend their terrorism and inhumane treatment of innocent Kashmirirs.
"Hitler Was Great": Israeli Envoy Flags Hate After 'The Kashmir Files' Row
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Israel's ambassador to India Naor Gilon on Saturday posted a screenshot of a message he said he had received on Twitter, justifying the holocaust and praising Hitler, days after he intervened in a controversy surrounding the movie 'The Kashmir Files'.
Mr Gilon said he was withholding the identity of the person who sent him the message to protect him.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just wanted to share one of a few DMs I got in this direction. <br>According to his profile, the guy has a PhD��.<br>Even though he doesn’t deserve my protection, I decided to delete his identifying information. <a href="https://t.co/cshJvnvVOF">pic.twitter.com/cshJvnvVOF</a></p>— Naor Gilon (@NaorGilon) <a href="https://twitter.com/NaorGilon/status/1598868985792995328?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 3, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
In a follow-up tweet, Mr Gilon said he was "touched" by the support he received upon posting the message.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’m touched by your support. The mentioned DM is in no way reflective of the friendship we enjoy in ����, including on social media. Just wanted this to be a reminder that anti-Semitism sentiments exist, we need to oppose it jointly and maintain a civilized level of discussion��. <a href="https://t.co/y06JJNbKDN">https://t.co/y06JJNbKDN</a></p>— Naor Gilon (@NaorGilon) <a href="https://twitter.com/NaorGilon/status/1598943233899646976?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 3, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
The message came days after the Israeli envoy publicly denounced a filmmaker from his country who called 'The Kashmir Files' a "propaganda" and "vulgar movie" at the International Film Festival of India (IFFI) in Goa.
Mr Gilon also apologized to India in an "open letter" on Twitter, on Tuesday, a day after filmmaker Nadav Lapid, who is heading the festival jury, slammed the movie at the closing ceremony of the festival yesterday.
'The Kashmir Files', directed by Vivek Agnihotri, revolves around the exodus and killing of Kashmiri Pandits from the Kashmir Valley in 1990. It has been mired in controversy since its release in March, with many calling it a poignant depiction of a tragic period and critics alleging it is loose with facts.
Mr Gilon said Nadav Lapid abused the Indian invitation to the judges' panel in the "worst way".
"In Indian culture, they say that a guest is like God. You have abused in the worst way the Indian invitation to chair the panel of judges at @IFFIGoa as well as the trust, respect, and warm hospitality they have bestowed on you," he added.
Nadav Lapid had said the jurors at the film festival were "disturbed and shocked" by 'The Kashmir Files'. Two days later, he offered a "total apology" if his remarks had been misinterpreted and said his aim was not to insult the Kashmiri Pandit community or those who had suffered.
"But at the same time, whatever I said, and I said clearly that for me and my fellow jury members, it was, and it is a vulgar propaganda movie that didn't have a place and was inappropriate for such a prestigious competitive section. I can repeat it again and again," he told news channel CNN-News18.
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Israel's ambassador to India Naor Gilon on Saturday posted a screenshot of a message he said he had received on Twitter, justifying the holocaust and praising Hitler, days after he intervened in a controversy surrounding the movie 'The Kashmir Files'.
Mr Gilon said he was withholding the identity of the person who sent him the message to protect him.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just wanted to share one of a few DMs I got in this direction. <br>According to his profile, the guy has a PhD��.<br>Even though he doesn’t deserve my protection, I decided to delete his identifying information. <a href="https://t.co/cshJvnvVOF">pic.twitter.com/cshJvnvVOF</a></p>— Naor Gilon (@NaorGilon) <a href="https://twitter.com/NaorGilon/status/1598868985792995328?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 3, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
In a follow-up tweet, Mr Gilon said he was "touched" by the support he received upon posting the message.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’m touched by your support. The mentioned DM is in no way reflective of the friendship we enjoy in ����, including on social media. Just wanted this to be a reminder that anti-Semitism sentiments exist, we need to oppose it jointly and maintain a civilized level of discussion��. <a href="https://t.co/y06JJNbKDN">https://t.co/y06JJNbKDN</a></p>— Naor Gilon (@NaorGilon) <a href="https://twitter.com/NaorGilon/status/1598943233899646976?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 3, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
The message came days after the Israeli envoy publicly denounced a filmmaker from his country who called 'The Kashmir Files' a "propaganda" and "vulgar movie" at the International Film Festival of India (IFFI) in Goa.
Mr Gilon also apologized to India in an "open letter" on Twitter, on Tuesday, a day after filmmaker Nadav Lapid, who is heading the festival jury, slammed the movie at the closing ceremony of the festival yesterday.
'The Kashmir Files', directed by Vivek Agnihotri, revolves around the exodus and killing of Kashmiri Pandits from the Kashmir Valley in 1990. It has been mired in controversy since its release in March, with many calling it a poignant depiction of a tragic period and critics alleging it is loose with facts.
Mr Gilon said Nadav Lapid abused the Indian invitation to the judges' panel in the "worst way".
"In Indian culture, they say that a guest is like God. You have abused in the worst way the Indian invitation to chair the panel of judges at @IFFIGoa as well as the trust, respect, and warm hospitality they have bestowed on you," he added.
Nadav Lapid had said the jurors at the film festival were "disturbed and shocked" by 'The Kashmir Files'. Two days later, he offered a "total apology" if his remarks had been misinterpreted and said his aim was not to insult the Kashmiri Pandit community or those who had suffered.
"But at the same time, whatever I said, and I said clearly that for me and my fellow jury members, it was, and it is a vulgar propaganda movie that didn't have a place and was inappropriate for such a prestigious competitive section. I can repeat it again and again," he told news channel CNN-News18.
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Funny to think that there's a significant amount of people who believe KF isn't a propaganda film. It's the textbook definition. Right-wing Ind commentary on Kashmir has always been disgusting.
Events shown in the movie:
4 IAF Officers gunned down - TRUE
Judge Neelakanth Ganjoo shot in broad daylight - TRUE
Mobs shouting 'Raliv, Galiv Chaliv' which means 'Convert, Die or Leave' - TRUE
Bitta Karate interview claiming killing 20-25 Pandits - TRUE
BK Ganjoo killed and his wife made to eat blood soaked rice - TRUE
Woman (Girija Tikkoo) tortured and cut into two by a mechanical saw - TRUE
Nandimarg massacre of 2003 which included children - TRUE
Sarvanand Kaul 'Premi' and son tortured and hung on trees - TRUE
All the above incidents are recorded events either covered in print media or electronic media. There are hundreds more which the movie couldn't cover due to time limits.
India has several dark chapters like 1983 Sikh riots, 2002 Gujarat riots, 1992 Babari masjid riots. All these are condemnable just like the atrocities being committed on non-muslims in 1980s and 90s. In fact there are several movies made on Gujarat riots but none are branded as propaganda. There are also movies like Haider and Shikara which completely whitewash the truth but are not called propaganda. First time a movie is made showing a mirror to the bitter truth and all hell breaks loose.
Girija Tickoo:
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Nandimarg Massacre:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It's the 12th anniversary of Nadimarg massacre in which 24 Kashmiri Pandits were killed by Lashkar. Two kids as well. <a href="http://t.co/tcLQ3uyvQX">pic.twitter.com/tcLQ3uyvQX</a></p>— Aditya Raj Kaul (@AdityaRajKaul) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdityaRajKaul/status/579840992699760640?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 23, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Bitta Karate:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It's the 12th anniversary of Nadimarg massacre in which 24 Kashmiri Pandits were killed by Lashkar. Two kids as well. <a href="http://t.co/tcLQ3uyvQX">pic.twitter.com/tcLQ3uyvQX</a></p>— Aditya Raj Kaul (@AdityaRajKaul) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdityaRajKaul/status/579840992699760640?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 23, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Note: In this movie the characters of Bitta Karate and Yasin Malik were combined due to time limits.
Nivedita Menon:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It's the 12th anniversary of Nadimarg massacre in which 24 Kashmiri Pandits were killed by Lashkar. Two kids as well. <a href="http://t.co/tcLQ3uyvQX">pic.twitter.com/tcLQ3uyvQX</a></p>— Aditya Raj Kaul (@AdityaRajKaul) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdityaRajKaul/status/579840992699760640?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 23, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
BK Ganjoo:
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Neelakanth Ganjoo:
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Nandimarg Massacre:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It's the 12th anniversary of Nadimarg massacre in which 24 Kashmiri Pandits were killed by Lashkar. Two kids as well. <a href="http://t.co/tcLQ3uyvQX">pic.twitter.com/tcLQ3uyvQX</a></p>— Aditya Raj Kaul (@AdityaRajKaul) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdityaRajKaul/status/579840992699760640?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 23, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Bitta Karate:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It's the 12th anniversary of Nadimarg massacre in which 24 Kashmiri Pandits were killed by Lashkar. Two kids as well. <a href="http://t.co/tcLQ3uyvQX">pic.twitter.com/tcLQ3uyvQX</a></p>— Aditya Raj Kaul (@AdityaRajKaul) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdityaRajKaul/status/579840992699760640?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 23, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Note: In this movie the characters of Bitta Karate and Yasin Malik were combined due to time limits.
Nivedita Menon:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It's the 12th anniversary of Nadimarg massacre in which 24 Kashmiri Pandits were killed by Lashkar. Two kids as well. <a href="http://t.co/tcLQ3uyvQX">pic.twitter.com/tcLQ3uyvQX</a></p>— Aditya Raj Kaul (@AdityaRajKaul) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdityaRajKaul/status/579840992699760640?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 23, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
BK Ganjoo:
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Neelakanth Ganjoo:
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This is like posting one side of partition massacres and claiming they are all true. They are, but there would also be the other side's story....
As I said in my previous post there have been movies like Haider which show the other side story. If Haider is accepted so should The Kashmir Files. One cannot term it propaganda just because it doesn't suit their narrative. There are movies like Firaaq and Parzania which are based on Gujarat riots. In India movies are made by people of leftist ideology and by those leaning towards the right. Neither is propaganda but a point of view.
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In a charged atmosphere where Muslims are being lynched, where anti-Islam sentiment is the worst its been in India since 1947.....releasing a movie about Pandits being targeted where the movie cast is chummiyaan with Modi in pictures...not propaganda at all.
This is like making movies about Germans being killed by Jews during the holocaust or movies about whites being killed when slavery existed. Were innocent Germans killed by Jewish militias? Were innocent whites targeted during slavery times? Yes they were. But the magnitude of hate and murder and rape one side faced with the other is completely lopsided.
Unbelievable an admin is posting such trash
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The movies you are talking about from the other side don't have govt or govt media backing. How would anyone have even heard about them in today's India?
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Proper propaganda movie. 
Kashmir Files movie came across as a bane for Indian liberals, anti nationals and ofcourse our beloved neighbours. They expected the horrific tale of Pandits will never be told. They never expected the reality to come back to haunt so badly after decades. And now when the story being told, they are crying why its been told and crying its a propaganda. Congress govt tried to hide the reality from people for years. Excellent work by present govt to promote such movies. Movies like this only proves why removal of article 370 was such a crucial step in Indian history.
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Will government of India promote movies like Gujarat Files, Delhi Files, Farmer Files, Dalit Files etc?
Will government of India promote movies like Gujarat Files, Delhi Files, Farmer Files, Dalit Files etc?
They should but you wont like any of them and would call it as propaganda as well.
For example, a movie of Gujarat files should always start with Godhra train burning and how Kar sevaks were killed which instigated the riots.
Delhi files should start with how Umar Khalid organized protests during Trump's visit to shame India infront of the world and how Ankit Sharma was murdered by now jailed AAP MP.
Farmer files should show the reality and benefit of farm laws and how it would have attracted FDI/private investment into farm sector as well as brought price stability. But how Khalistani organizations based in Canada organized those protests and how red fort was attacked. Oh should also show how Greta Thurnberg's chats completely exposed the propaganda and fell flat on the face.
Dalit files should show how ruling govt pushed for 2 Dalit presidents of India.
I agree with you that movies must be made on all these. But whether you would like to hear the truth or not is different story. Bottomline is, anyway you try to twist the facts, we all know where and with whom the truth lies.
Oh and as we speak, Vivek Agnihotry already filming Kerala Files and the movie is expected to release next year. So watch out this space for more.
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In the last 75 years around 220 "pundits" have been killed in Kashmir while over 100,000 Muslim Kashmiris have died during the same time period at the hands of Ind's terror force. Any normal person will assume that the 100 thousand deaths are a more pressing matter but normal isn't a word that's applicable to Ind in most cases. There's around 1 soldier for every 18 people in IOK.
Cutting internet access, imposing curfews, killing and threatening the already extremely oppressed local populace isn't enough for Ind's public. They want more blood and suffering for the locals which is why they obsessively support politicians and media that paint local Kashmiris in a bad light.
I'm guessing you're one of those that support Kashmiris being replaced by random people from India.
Indian ministers and diplomats have already admitted that they want to get rid of local Kashmiris and replace them with random Hindus from random places in India.
He asserted that the Indian government should also follow the policy of Israel, though he did not elaborate on which aspect or even its relevance – since Israel’s policies are those of a foreign occupier while India’s official stance is that Kashmir is an integral part of the country. “I don’t know why we don’t follow it. It has happened in the Middle East. If the Israeli people can do it, we can also do it”, - Sandeep Chakravorty, India’s consul general said.
Let's all keep crying about the 220-odd "pundit" deaths that occurred over a period of 75 years. Clearly, that's what's important right now.
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"'Kashmir Files' Is Propaganda": 3 Goa Film Fest Jury Members Back Israeli Filmmaker Nadav Lapid
A statement posted on Twitter by jury member Jinko Gotoh, with fellow jurors Pascale Chavance and Javier Angulo Barturen as the undersigned, said the entire jury knew of and agreed with what Mr Lapid said about the movie.
Israeli filmmaker Nadav Lapid, whose comments terming 'The Kashmir Files' as "vulgar" and "propaganda" led to a row, has now got support from three others jury members of the International Film Festival of India (IFFI), Goa. A statement posted on Twitter by jury member Jinko Gotoh, along with Pascale Chavance and Javier Angulo Barturen as undersigned, said the entire jury knew — and agreed with — what Mr Lapid said as jury chief.
This leaves only Sudipto Sen — the lone Indian filmmaker on the IFFI International Competition jury — claiming that Mr Lapid made the statement "in his personal capacity".
Mr Lapid has since said he did not mean to deny the tragedy of Kashmiri Pandits, but had only commented on the movie's "cinematic manipulations", and that the tragedy "deserves a serious movie".
This was underlined by the three fellow jurors in their joint statement.
"At the festival's closing ceremony, Nadav Lapid, the jury's president, made a statement on behalf of the jury members stating: 'We were all of disturbed and shocked by the 15th film, The Kashmir Files, that felt to us like a vulgar propaganda movie, inappropriate for an artistic competitive section of such a prestigious film festival.' We stand by his statement," it read.
"And to clarify, we were not taking a political stance on the film's content, we were making an artistic statement, and it saddens us greatly to see the festival platform being used for politics and subsequent personal attacks on Nadav. That was never the intention of the jury," it added.
Jinko Gotoh is an Oscar-nominated American producer; Javier A Barturen, a documentary filmmaker and journalist from France; and Pascale Chavance is a film editor from France.
Vivek Agnihotri, director of the film that has made box-office records since its release in March, has alleged that Mr Lapid denied the tragedy of Pandits, who had to leave Kashmir due to terrorism in the 1990s. Anupam Kher, the lead actor, alleged a conspiracy.
The Israeli ambassador to India — who faced anti-semitic comments such as "Hitler was great" from some of those protesting Mr Lapid's comments — also said he felt "ashamed" at Mr Lapid's statement and "insult of the host country".
Mr Lapid in turn called the envoy a "manipulator", and said he and the film's director were conflating two different issues. "I never doubted the facts, I don't have the capacity, the tools, to say what happened in Kashmir... I was talking about the movie, and such a serious topic, in my opinion, deserves a serious movie," Mr Lapid told several news outlets.
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/the...rs-back-israeli-filmmaker-nadav-lapid-3575688
A statement posted on Twitter by jury member Jinko Gotoh, with fellow jurors Pascale Chavance and Javier Angulo Barturen as the undersigned, said the entire jury knew of and agreed with what Mr Lapid said about the movie.
Israeli filmmaker Nadav Lapid, whose comments terming 'The Kashmir Files' as "vulgar" and "propaganda" led to a row, has now got support from three others jury members of the International Film Festival of India (IFFI), Goa. A statement posted on Twitter by jury member Jinko Gotoh, along with Pascale Chavance and Javier Angulo Barturen as undersigned, said the entire jury knew — and agreed with — what Mr Lapid said as jury chief.
This leaves only Sudipto Sen — the lone Indian filmmaker on the IFFI International Competition jury — claiming that Mr Lapid made the statement "in his personal capacity".
Mr Lapid has since said he did not mean to deny the tragedy of Kashmiri Pandits, but had only commented on the movie's "cinematic manipulations", and that the tragedy "deserves a serious movie".
This was underlined by the three fellow jurors in their joint statement.
"At the festival's closing ceremony, Nadav Lapid, the jury's president, made a statement on behalf of the jury members stating: 'We were all of disturbed and shocked by the 15th film, The Kashmir Files, that felt to us like a vulgar propaganda movie, inappropriate for an artistic competitive section of such a prestigious film festival.' We stand by his statement," it read.
"And to clarify, we were not taking a political stance on the film's content, we were making an artistic statement, and it saddens us greatly to see the festival platform being used for politics and subsequent personal attacks on Nadav. That was never the intention of the jury," it added.
Jinko Gotoh is an Oscar-nominated American producer; Javier A Barturen, a documentary filmmaker and journalist from France; and Pascale Chavance is a film editor from France.
Vivek Agnihotri, director of the film that has made box-office records since its release in March, has alleged that Mr Lapid denied the tragedy of Pandits, who had to leave Kashmir due to terrorism in the 1990s. Anupam Kher, the lead actor, alleged a conspiracy.
The Israeli ambassador to India — who faced anti-semitic comments such as "Hitler was great" from some of those protesting Mr Lapid's comments — also said he felt "ashamed" at Mr Lapid's statement and "insult of the host country".
Mr Lapid in turn called the envoy a "manipulator", and said he and the film's director were conflating two different issues. "I never doubted the facts, I don't have the capacity, the tools, to say what happened in Kashmir... I was talking about the movie, and such a serious topic, in my opinion, deserves a serious movie," Mr Lapid told several news outlets.
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/the...rs-back-israeli-filmmaker-nadav-lapid-3575688
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So whatever movie that B grade director Vivek Agnihotry dish out next will become truth? Pretty sure just like Kashmir Files, what is he going to highlight next. Look at the following tweet from him.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I am really grateful to all the Congressis, AAPiyas and unemployed Bollywoodiyas for building new apartments for me everyday and also for furnishing them with luxury furniture. I really liked the sofa which came from 10 Janpath. <br><br>Thank you everyone. Thank you <a href="https://twitter.com/ikaveri?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ikaveri</a> ji. <a href="https://t.co/F15h9EysA5">pic.twitter.com/F15h9EysA5</a></p>— Vivek Ranjan Agnihotri (@vivekagnihotri) <a href="https://twitter.com/vivekagnihotri/status/1598899598457987079?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 3, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Does he really look like someone who will present facts in front of Indian public? He is an andhbhakt and a feku worshipper. He knows what sells in India. If he is working on Kerala Files next then you can expect another propaganda movie from him.