I said maybe, because Marvi was right in her criticism, it was not abuse, except in the eyes of Insaafians
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Khalil-ur-Rehman and his hatred for women
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I said maybe, because Marvi was right in her criticism, it was not abuse, except in the eyes of Insaafians
Everyone has different perspectives on how the problem should be solved. Some want a copy/paste of what the west is doing (this includes men and women) because there is a shallow understanding of life and societal harm the west had suffered and continues to suffer. Then there is the crowd that thinks by simply claiming Islam gives women rights we can make everything ok.
One of my teachers would say that when people begin to pick and choose what they want to follow as Muslims, the greatest harm is to the woman (since her rights will not be honored as we see these days).
I was on a business trip once in Canada and the hotel I was staying at had a large delegation of visible Muslim women (hijab) there. I was curious and approached them. They were a team from the government owned Petronas oil company and there were in Canada to open up an office and start projects (all women about 10). I chatted with them for a while and then left impressed at how this society had found a beautiful moderate path.
It is easy to take extreme sides but much better to find the moderate path.
) Anyone questions the status quo especially women, men in Paksitan are threatened. Rather than saying yes there is an issue and let's see how we can reduce and improve the lives of the other 50% of the population.
I am assuming these women were from Malaysia, it takes education across all sections of society to reach that happy medium. Unfortualy for Pakstan to get to that level a lot needs to be done on the education for all.
Neither of them is a saint. But Marvis problem is behavioural and etiquette related. Khalils point of view is mindset related to the point that it’s troubling to listen to his views.
Khalils views are disgusting and misogynistic. They’re degrading and disrespectful towards women.
Mera jism meri marzi is a basic right. No adult (adolescent even) women can be told what to do with her body, not by her father not by her husband.
This shouldn’t need a discussion. And people hating on feminism need to accept that this is where the world is at. Biologically and physically we are different but men and women deserve basic equality.
Any man that dislikes Marvi (she isn’t likeable) that is rejoicing and celebrating this exchange is wrong and just as disgusting. In fact a few posters that I thought highly off have shown themselves to be really poor human beings.
You should be able to condemn both people while acknowledging that Khalils views are actually worrisome.
Khalils views are disgusting and misogynistic. They’re degrading and disrespectful towards women.
Mera jism meri marzi is a basic right. No adult (adolescent even) women can be told what to do with her body, not by her father not by her husband.
This shouldn’t need a discussion. And people hating on feminism need to accept that this is where the world is at. Biologically and physically we are different but men and women deserve basic equality.
Any man that dislikes Marvi (she isn’t likeable) that is rejoicing and celebrating this exchange is wrong and just as disgusting. In fact a few posters that I thought highly off have shown themselves to be really poor human beings.
You should be able to condemn both people while acknowledging that Khalils views are actually worrisome.
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I would describe that behaviour as stubborn or bullheaded. Fragile means frail or easily broken. If Pakistani men are easily broken, then what is the problem? There is surely no need for militant actions or offensive language, Pakistani men should crumble with much lesser actions.
Yes correct. They were Malaysian.
When I was studying in Egypt, the largest ethnic group studying there were the Malaysians (men/women/young couples). They take their Islamic and secular education seriously. No wonder they have high levels of literacy on both counts and anyone who visits Malaysia or interacts with Malaysians is truly impressed by their character and their country.
That I believe is the hard part. To take a moderate interpretation of Islam from a place of knowledge (vs just taking what the west does and calling it "moderate") and integrating it with our culture/traditions (the good ones) to get a Malaysia like model (but with a Pakistani taste).
Is it easy? No
Is this an overnight solution? No
But will it yield lasting sustainable results? Yes
Education is the key. Bangladesh has drastically dropped their birth rate in the past 15 years just my emphasizing female education. It has enabled educated Bengladeshi women to make their own decisions and enter the workforce in a professional capacity.
Aptly said.
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This guys views suck, and so does 3rd wave feminism.
Politics and vote bank. With the growing popularity of feminism in Pakistan, we can expect more and more politicians pretending to be feminists.
No! politicians will LOOSE their current voters if they will support these feminists who are on road with banners
The majority of Pakistani populace is against women rights. Pakistan men get spasms when they hear about women rights!
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There is built in hatred for women in Pakistan. Add culture and Gawar Mullahs on top of it. As a father of an infant daughter, it worries me so much thinking about this misogynist culture and attitude towards women.
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Mastermind identified in Khalilur Rehman Qamar's abduction
In a significant development in the robbery and kidnapping case involving renowned scriptwriter Khalilur Rehman Qamar, police have arrested a suspect named Amina.
According to Express News, the mastermind behind the plot has been identified as Hassan Shah.
Police conducted a raid in Nankana Sahib to arrest the main suspect, Hassan Shah. Though he evaded capture, several of his accomplices were detained.
Sources reveal the suspects are professionals and have previously robbed multiple individuals. Amina had been in contact with Qamar for five to six days prior to the incident.
Meanwhile, Qamar announced he would hold a press conference in three days to reveal further details about the incident.
Qamar was abducted and robbed in Lahore yesterday, police said.
Amina called Qamar and invited him to her house to discuss a drama project. Upon his arrival, armed men abducted him and carried out the robbery. Qamar reportedly paid a large sum to the kidnappers, who then released him.
The Sundar police station in Lahore registered a case based on Qamar's statement. The FIR states that the suspects tortured Qamar and took him to various locations. They threatened to kill him and demanded money from his relatives.
The suspects also stole Qamar's mobile phone, watch, and cash, transferring Rs250,000 from his ATM card. Qamar was blindfolded and left in a deserted area before the kidnappers fled.
Mastermind identified in Khalilur Rehman Qamar's abduction | The Express Tribune
Prominent scriptwriter to hold press conference after kidnapping ordeal; suspect arrested
tribune.com.pk
