Khamenei raises Kashmir issue, hints bitterness in India-Iran relations?

[Mian]

What happened to their friendly relations all of a sudden? Change in geo politics?

Iran's supreme leader Khamenei rakes up Kashmir bogey twice in two weeks

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/...ashmir-bogey-twice-in-two-weeks/1/994600.html

<blockquote class="twitter-video" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Iranian state run Press Tv hits india where it hurts the most. Calls Burhan Wani an Activist. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Kashmir?src=hash">#Kashmir</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BurhanTheFreedomFighter?src=hash">#BurhanTheFreedomFighter</a> <a href="https://t.co/Fdb3ina9Kc">pic.twitter.com/Fdb3ina9Kc</a></p>— Asfandyar Bhittani (@BhittaniKhannnn) <a href="https://twitter.com/BhittaniKhannnn/status/881523033760043008">July 2, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[JaDed]

Yes,there is , hearing it's coz new alliances and some gas field issues.

 

[Hornbill]

Yes,there is , hearing it's coz new alliances and some gas field issues.

Khamenei on Monday urged Iran's judiciary to "express its firm support or opposition" on several Muslim-related issues including "oppressed personalities like (Nigerian Shiite leader) Sheikh Ibrahim Zakzaky or Muslims of Myanmar and Kashmir", IRNA reported.

Priority matters, this is like saying I'm ready to exclude kashmir issue in next statement.

 

[Varun]

Not a surprise coming from Iran. Damned if you do, damned if you don't with them.

Fortunately they don't have much clout in international political matters.

 

[Mian]

So future looks dark for chahbahar

 

[Romali_rotti]

So future looks dark for chahbahar

Never fear, Modi will take kare of it .. The man is schooling all world leaders currently..........

 

[Mian]

Never fear, Modi will take kare of it .. The man is schooling all world leaders currently..........

Schooling in gimmicks? Without any output

 

[PakLFC]

Raheel Sharif is doing a lot of work behind the scenes. The relationship between Pakistan and Iran has improved much to India's disappointment.

 

[Napa]

Not a surprise coming from Iran. Damned if you do, damned if you don't with them.

Fortunately they don't have much clout in international political matters.

Maybe India should drop the $11 billion investing it is planning to make in Iran's oil industry. Let them duke it out with the Saudis and Israel.

 

[Pakistanian]

Iran was always pro Kashmir, this isn't anything new. Their relations with India are strictly for business. The Ayatollah always mentions Kashmir in his annual Eid prayers and in '65 the Iranian govt then under the shah provided Pakistan with a lot of military support.

 

[Pakistanian]

Maybe India should drop the $11 billion investing it is planning to make in Iran's oil industry. Let them duke it out with the Saudis and Israel.

They already dumped India and signed a deal with a Russian firm
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...al-with-russian-firm/articleshow/59027784.cms

Russia is an Oil rich country, so it makes sense they chose them over India that doesn't have an Oil industry of its own.

 

[Napa]

They already dumped India and signed a deal with a Russian firm
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...al-with-russian-firm/articleshow/59027784.cms

Russia is an Oil rich country, so it makes sense they chose them over India that doesn't have an Oil industry of its own.

The $11 billion deal is mentioned in an article dated July 3 and involves Indian private sector firms:

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/03/iran-to-sign-new-ipc-gas-deal-with-total-for-south-pars.html

The article you reference is dated June 7. Also that deal with with Indian public sector firms.

While Russia is a major energy producer, Gazprom is a mostly government entity. Such entities find it hard to compete with private companies in terms of efficiency.

 

[Black Zero]

The $11 billion deal is mentioned in an article dated July 3 and involves Indian private sector firms:

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/03/iran-to-sign-new-ipc-gas-deal-with-total-for-south-pars.html

The article you reference is dated June 7. Also that deal with with Indian public sector firms.

While Russia is a major energy producer, Gazprom is a mostly government entity. Such entities find it hard to compete with private companies in terms of efficiency.

Iran understand that both pakistan and india are good-for-nothing type countries. Historically both countries wasted iran's time in "planning"various dream projects.

Iran should align itself to China and/or Russia, to get something done.

(Indian business sector is crap and past indian business failed to pay iran in time)
India is just a joke when they tried to renegotiate the agreed price/conditions with iran.

Anyway, it would be india's loss and i would suggest that india should do something for indian farmers first.

 

[Napa]

Iran understand that both pakistan and india are good-for-nothing type countries. Historically both countries wasted iran's time in "planning"various dream projects.

Iran should align itself to China and/or Russia, to get something done.

(Indian business sector is crap and past indian business failed to pay iran in time)
India is just a joke when they tried to renegotiate the agreed price/conditions with iran.

Anyway, it would be india's loss and i would suggest that india should do something for indian farmers first.

An economy projected to be $20 trillion by 2030 should take advice from Black Zero

 

[Eagle_Eye]

I wouldn't trust anything Iran says as long its run by the mullahs/ayatollahs.

-ratted on Pakistan after getting their nuclear designs.

- hand in glove with India in formenting trouble in Pakistan...

- too bad for them that they got played by India for so long...

[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION].... I was right after all eh!

 

[Eagle_Eye]

An economy projected to be $20 trillion by 2030 should take advice from Black Zero

They were stringing them along and milking them... Iranians had to move on at some point.

 

[Napa]

They were stringing them along and milking them... Iranians had to move on at some point.

It's not easy for India to do business with Iran. India runs a surplus of about $50 billion with the US which it needs to pay for its energy imports etc. So India cannot really antagonize the US too much. The US has also been very beneficial to India, the wealth of Gurgaon, Bengaluru, Hyderabad etc. is due to investments by and trade with US firms.

Given these constraints, India has been reasonably cooperative with Iran. It probably does more trade with Iran except for a handful of other countries (Russia, China maybe?).

 

[Eagle_Eye]

It's not easy for India to do business with Iran. India runs a surplus of about $50 billion with the US which it needs to pay for its energy imports etc. So India cannot really antagonize the US too much. The US has also been very beneficial to India, the wealth of Gurgaon, Bengaluru, Hyderabad etc. is due to investments by and trade with US firms.

Given these constraints, India has been reasonably cooperative with Iran. It probably does more trade with Iran except for a handful of other countries (Russia, China maybe?).

Look I don't blame India... they done well to milk them as long as they could. All worked till cpec became a reality. Then India had to back up their promises.... which they can't.

 

[Black Zero]

An economy projected to be $20 trillion by 2030 should take advice from Black Zero

Repeat:

Please do something for indian farmers first.

 

[Napa]

Look I don't blame India... they done well to milk them as long as they could. All worked till cpec became a reality. Then India had to back up their promises.... which they can't.

India needs oil and its FX reserves are currently $382 bn, so the $10 bn or $20 bn that Iran wants is a piddly amount.

https://tradingeconomics.com/india/foreign-exchange-reserves

India has to pay market price for oil, so it really doesn't have a great preference between Iran, Saudi, Nigeria, Venezuela or wherever. If the Iranians were a bit nicer, they may have tried harder to help, but the Ayatollah keeps mouthing off about Kashmir.

 

[Napa]

Repeat:

Please do something for indian farmers first.

Your concern for the Indian farmer is very touching.

I doubt someone who just wrote "Indian business sector is crap" knows anything about India. India's software firms are valued in hundreds of billions of dollars, its pharma firms supply affordable medicines to the entire world, auto ancillaries around Chennai are a world leader etc. Thanks but no thanks, I think I will pass on any advice you have for India.

 

[Black Zero]

Your concern for the Indian farmer is very touching.

I doubt someone who just wrote "Indian business sector is crap" knows anything about India. India's software firms are valued in hundreds of billions of dollars, its pharma firms supply affordable medicines to the entire world, auto ancillaries around Chennai are a world leader etc. Thanks but no thanks, I think I will pass on any advice you have for India.

I think you should also be touchy about indian farmers.
But maybe this is too touchy a subject for you as you try not to touch it.

India is a third world country and will remain so even during the life of your grand childern.

 

[Napa]

Look I don't blame India... they done well to milk them as long as they could. All worked till cpec became a reality. Then India had to back up their promises.... which they can't.

The energy industry has changed a lot over the last few years thanks to the US shale oil drillers. Large buyers like India have a lot of options and if Iran won't play, there are others. Vietnam is one:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-southchinasea-vietnam-idUSKBN19R25P

 

[Romali_rotti]

I think you should also be touchy about indian farmers.
But maybe this is too touchy a subject for you as you try not to touch it.

India is a third world country and will remain so even during the life of your grand childern.

DOnt worry, Modi will fix the farmers , thats what the agricultural partnership with Israel was signed for

 

[Black Zero]

DOnt worry, Modi will fix the farmers , thats what the agricultural partnership with Israel was signed for

What do you mean by fix?

 

[JaDed]

Iran was always pro Kashmir, this isn't anything new. Their relations with India are strictly for business. The Ayatollah always mentions Kashmir in his annual Eid prayers and in '65 the Iranian govt then under the shah provided Pakistan with a lot of military support.

You do realize the 65 govn and the current one are miles apart? Or you missed the part about 79 revolution?

 

[The Bald Eagle]

India has hit out at comments from Iran’s supreme leader regarding the treatment of its Muslim minority
India’s Ministry of External Affairs said in a statement on Monday that remarks made by Ali Khamenei in a post on X were “misinformed and unacceptable”. While India and Iran generally enjoy close relations, the approach of India’s Hindu nationalist government to minorities has led to disagreements in the past.

“Countries commenting on minorities are advised to look at their own record before making any observations about others,” the statement from New Delhi read

The curt missive followed a social media post from Khamenei on Monday that said, “We cannot consider ourselves to be Muslims if we are oblivious to the suffering that a Muslim is enduring in Myanmar, Gaza, India, or any other place.”

The enemies of Islam have always tried to make us indifferent with regard to our shared identity as an Islamic Ummah. We cannot consider ourselves to be Muslims if we are oblivious to the suffering that a Muslim is enduring in #Myanmar, #Gaza, #India, or any other place.
— Khamenei.ir (@khamenei_ir) September 16, 2024

India and Iran tend to share a good relationship, illustrated by strong economic ties. In May, they signed a 10-year contract to develop and operate the Iranian port of Chabahar, on Iran’s southeastern coast.

India is developing the port as a gateway to exports to Iran, Afghanistan and Central Asia, allowing it to bypass the ports of Karachi and Gwadar in rival Pakistan.

But Khamenei has been critical in the past over issues involving Muslims in India and the troubled Muslim-majority region of Kashmir.
Human rights groups have alleged that the mistreatment of Muslims has increased under Prime Minister Narendra Modi, who took over as prime minister in 2014.

Since then, the country has seen a rising number of attacks against Muslims and their livelihoods. Reports of hate speech have also grown.
Cases of mob lynching under the pretext of protecting cows, considered holy by some Hindus, have increased during Modi’s time in power, and homes and properties have been demolished.

Source: Al Jazeera

 

[Bhaijaan]

It was obviously coming given the overwhelming moral support to Israel by Bharatiyas and our growing cooperation with the United States of America.

Iran is on the verge of an implosion and only last month Pakistan punched them in the face. They don’t belong in the big league and must sit quietly else we will ask our besties in the Mediterranean Israel to slap them on our behalf which they would gladly do.

 

[JaDed]

It was obviously coming given the overwhelming moral support to Israel by Bharatiyas and our growing cooperation with the United States of America.

Iran is on the verge of an implosion and only last month Pakistan punched them in the face. They don’t belong in the big league and must sit quietly else we will ask our besties in the Mediterranean Israel to slap them on our behalf which they would gladly do.

It’s vocal support, in 1993 when America and Pakistan almost got Kashmir issue to come to UN, it was Iran who helped us.
Vocal support vs actions are what matters, India actually voted for Palestine in UN, US Canada UK didn’t.. actions matter not words.

 

[Bhaijaan]

It’s vocal support, in 1993 when America and Pakistan almost got Kashmir issue to come to UN, it was Iran who helped us.
Vocal support vs actions are what matters, India actually voted for Palestine in UN, US Canada UK didn’t.. actions matter not words.

I will be ready with bandages and Anti septics for Iran after my bestie has taken them to the suplex city.

Never mess with Sanatan.
Remember it was Sanatan which ended the Persian empire.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

I will be ready with bandages and Anti septics for Iran after my bestie has taken them to the suplex city.

Never mess with Sanatan.
Remember it was Sanatan which ended the Persian empire.

Lol when?

 

[deltexas]

Iran is all talk no action. Seen hat with Israel gaza war. These are just foe the gullible public consumption. Next thing you know - Iran will be offering Modi a state welcome and the Ayotollah will be warmly "hugging" Modi. LOL !

 

[Champ_Pal]

Iran is tough as that old lady that curses “tere muh mein Keede lage”.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Israel-Iran remind me of two kids in my school who used to keep fighting all the time. Both Sardars. One of them the bully who would just pick up fight every day with the other for his amusement sake and the other who never backed down totally but never had the upper edge in the fight either.

The bully was cunning or should i say a sadist as he would often not display his full strength to let the other continue the fight and prolong his amusement. Then when we thought the fight was going 50-50 he would just casually give a couple of blows to the other.

Then once the bully and we spectators had enough fun we would intervene and call off the fight. Both would resume to tie their patka and do the joodi once again. It was funny when their long hair were out and they cared about nothing in the world but to tie their patka quickest.

This happened every day.
Now they are best friends

 

[Bhaijaan]

ROW: Iran, please stop. The Israelis keep whooping you. It’s not even fun anymore.


Israel :-

 

[BouncerGuy]

Thread is about India-Iran. Not ISRAEL