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Khushdil Shah is even worse than Asif Ali

Rana said:
Khushdil definitely is extremely selfish
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And not actually a hitter. He has been misidentified similar to how Faheem was in his early days. He is unable to hit big from ball 1. Hes a very limited batsman.
 
Khushdil definitely has utility with his power hitting, albeit tries to hit too hard sometimes, and his part-timers. But with Nawaz already bowling SLO, Haider would be a better option for the #4/#5 slot (ideally he should open down the line).
 
Colorblind Genius said:
He came to the crease to put more pressure on an already injured and super tired Rizwan by timid blocking and taking singles in the death overs. Who does that?
This resulted in more pressure on Rizwan as the responsibility was kicked back on him by Shah. And Rizwan lost his wicket in return.

This guys was supposed to RELEASE pressure on Rizwan but the super timid and inability to counter fire with fire, seems a concept that makes him wet his pants.
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He was giving strike to inform Rizwan who was well set, instead of trying to be hero and swing and miss he gave single to inform Rizwan. Very sensible approach in tense chase :)
 
Ryw said:
He was giving strike to inform Rizwan who was well set, instead of trying to be hero and swing and miss he gave single to inform Rizwan. Very sensible approach in tense chase :)
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I don’t know if that’s what he intended to do but it does reiterate the point that Rizwan had been at the crease long enough to now deal in boundaries only instead of mistiming in the slot deliveries for singles and doubles
 
Rana said:
I don’t know if that’s what he intended to do but it does reiterate the point that Rizwan had been at the crease long enough to now deal in boundaries only instead of mistiming in the slot deliveries for singles and doubles
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Khushdil smashed 4 SIXES in previous match,its not like he can’t, he was doing what was sensible thing to do :)
 
Rana said:
I don’t know if that’s what he intended to do but it does reiterate the point that Rizwan had been at the crease long enough to now deal in boundaries only instead of mistiming in the slot deliveries for singles and doubles
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Yes Rizwan should have scored 6 sixes in that over. He is not good enough unfortunately.
 
m.awais said:
Yes Rizwan should have scored 6 sixes in that over. He is not good enough unfortunately.
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Rizwan fans are so sensitive

He could definitely have hit a couple of sixes with the amount of in the slot deliveries he faced and mistimed because he was ‘super tired’ as his fans love to tell us
 
Rana said:
Rizwan fans are so sensitive

He could definitely have hit a couple of sixes with the amount of in the slot deliveries he faced and mistimed because he was ‘super tired’ as his fans love to tell us
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No bro not a couple of sixes. He should have scored 6 sixes in an over. I am criticising him and you are calling me his fan.
 
Ryw said:
He was giving strike to inform Rizwan who was well set, instead of trying to be hero and swing and miss he gave single to inform Rizwan. Very sensible approach in tense chase :)
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After Rizwan was out, Khushdil was still going for singles in Bishnoi's over.

It's good that Asif smashed Bhuvnesh otherwise it might have cost the game.

Khushdil has the ability to hit big, but he can't afford to take 10 balls before going big in these situations.
But still he did well to not panic and get out.
 
Khushdil still doesn’t inspire any confidence. He can hit for sure, but he can really slow things down when he doesn’t too
 
Rana said:
Rizwan fans are so sensitive

He could definitely have hit a couple of sixes with the amount of in the slot deliveries he faced and mistimed because he was ‘super tired’ as his fans love to tell us
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You didnt even wait one day to show your true colors.
 
TheSultan said:
Khushdil still doesn’t inspire any confidence. He can hit for sure, but he can really slow things down when he doesn’t too
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On the contrary, I found him more sensible and inspire more confidence than Asif. Because unlike Asif he has got match awareness, and tries to play shot with proper application, as a result he tends to carry on the innings till the end.

Asif on the other hand, knows nothing but swings his bat blindfolded, if his catch was taken yesterday then Pak would have been even bigger trouble and even may lose the match. He survives on sheer lucks and nothing else. Against better team he would not be as lucky as yesterday.
 
Khushdil Asif all are the perfect club cricketers, the elite of club cricket they are street stars International level and that too Against quality opposition is a tough ask for them they are devoid of any proper cricketing shots
 
Khusdil and Asif are the best T20 strikers we have in the country. Need to give them respect
 
asif won us the game by scoring 19 in last over...leave him alone

he got out to a very good ball by arshdeep after playing a dot
 
Kianig89 said:
Khushdil Asif all are the perfect club cricketers, the elite of club cricket they are street stars International level and that too Against quality opposition is a tough ask for them they are devoid of any proper cricketing shots
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They are playing International Cricket, they are fittest, they passed yoyo test etc to get into the squad, they deserve respect with their hardwork and comittment, they are match winners. Amature posters know nothing about the difference between club level Cricket and International level Cricket :)
 
Surya Kumar has had a brilliant start and Khushdil has been good... both have different roles and different place in respective teams..

let khushdil play 20 odd games and then we can see whether he is successful in the role he is being asked to serve

and then dont compare him to Rohit Sharma lol he is an opener not a finisher ...
 
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As expected the self-hating Pak fans remain unmoved. Hardly surprised.


Here's Asif Ali in his last four chases though:

vs New Zealand - 37 needed off 24 - Asif Ali: 27 off 12
vs Afghanistan - 24 needed off 12 - Asif Ali: 25 off 7
vs West Indies - 24 needed off 16 - Asif Ali: 21 off 7
vs India - 34 needed off 18 - Asif Ali: 16 off 6


Overall: 89 runs, 261.76 SR, 10 sixes...and we won all four matches.


But yeah, why don't you geniuses tell me how he's a hack who can't bat or deliver under pressure lol. As if you lot even know what you are talking about and aren't completely biased in your hate for him...
 
Ryw said:
They are playing International Cricket, they are fittest, they passed yoyo test etc to get into the squad, they deserve respect with their hardwork and comittment, they are match winners. Amature posters know nothing about the difference between club level Cricket and International level Cricket :)
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Amateur posters did you know which year Flintoff played his first Sharjah Cup Mr. Cricket don't answer by Google do you who is Allan Mullaly and David Houghton
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
As expected the self-hating Pak fans remain unmoved. Hardly surprised.


Here's Asif Ali in his last four chases though:

vs New Zealand - 37 needed off 24 - Asif Ali: 27 off 12
vs Afghanistan - 24 needed off 12 - Asif Ali: 25 off 7
vs West Indies - 24 needed off 16 - Asif Ali: 21 off 7
vs India - 34 needed off 18 - Asif Ali: 16 off 6


Overall: 89 runs, 261.76 SR, 10 sixes...and we won all four matches.


But yeah, why don't you geniuses tell me how he's a hack who can't bat or deliver under pressure lol. As if you lot even know what you are talking about and aren't completely biased in your hate for him...
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Good post.

Some people expect consistency from him but that's not his role in the team.

He has a high-risk job and there will be failures but he'll also win you games by playing these crucial cameos.
 
Kianig89 said:
Amateur posters did you know which year Flintoff played his first Sharjah Cup Mr. Cricket don't answer by Google do you who is Allan Mullaly and David Houghton
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Ok lets assume i dont know these names, but Khushdil Shah is better than Flintoff Mullaly Houghton :inzi
 
Only ligit criticism I will make for Khusdil and Asif is the point Wasim Akram made ie that players need to know how to manage their innings and bat according to different situations for eg if they have to bat for the team with 8-10 overs left.

They will not always get a good platform from the top and will not have the luxury to be allowed to go after the bowling with batsmen to follow below them.
 
Savak said:
Only ligit criticism I will make for Khusdil and Asif is the point Wasim Akram made ie that players need to know how to manage their innings and bat according to different situations for eg if they have to bat for the team with 8-10 overs left.

They will not always get a good platform from the top and will not have the luxury to be allowed to go after the bowling with batsmen to follow below them.
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Asif Ali should be coming in ahead of Khushdil if its last 4-5 overs.
 
smkk said:
On the contrary, I found him more sensible and inspire more confidence than Asif. Because unlike Asif he has got match awareness, and tries to play shot with proper application, as a result he tends to carry on the innings till the end.

Asif on the other hand, knows nothing but swings his bat blindfolded, if his catch was taken yesterday then Pak would have been even bigger trouble and even may lose the match. He survives on sheer lucks and nothing else. Against better team he would not be as lucky as yesterday.
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Hein?
This is a weird shot from the hip.

So if Asif’s catch had been taken, we are happy to blame him for putting into more trouble and even losing the game?
Why do you even blame or better yet RELY on a mindless blindfolded player who just swings the bat? Why not rely on a pro who has better match awareness and can hit big against top class bowling?

I would rather have you say this,

“Even if the blindfolded slogger Asif had gotten out, I wouldn’t worry one bit because we had a cool headed big hitter on the crease in the name of Khushdil Shah, who would’ve easily taken us home. So Asif’s early exit would’ve had no negative impact on the result.”

No?
 
Not convinced by Khushdil Shah at the international level:

Innings 16
Strike rate of just 113.74

For a so-called finisher that is awful.
 
Absolute junk of a batsman against good quality bowlers.
And a total tulla of a "hit or miss" type batter against third class bowling attacks.
 
Saying this since Day 1 he is just a hack one of like Awias ZIA Fakhar Zaman drop him
 
Throw Khushdil out of the t20 team. He has done fine in ODIs so far. But he is an awful t20 player with selfish tendencies.

Asif is a good player for 10-12 ball cameos. Can't expect him to stay on the crease longer but he does hit well as hitting is the only way he knows how to play the game.
 
Having khushdil and asif are recipe for disaster . No way they should be in line up . Look what happened today
 
I can definitely tolerate Asif until we have a better replacement but Haider and Imad should be coming in for Khushdil and Ifti chacha (somewhat tolerable for now as Haider hasnt shown much since his break).
 
All three KIA batsmen are useless. Need proper batsmen I rather have a batsmen who can hit ground boundaries then thes 6 hitting batsmen whi go missing when going is tough.
 
I said before you can only tolerate one of these in your playing 11...let this tournament end and drop the least effective player prior to the T20 series against England... Right now Asif just slightly ahead of Khusdil....
 
Kushdil guy is not even fit to be called a hack... Even hack clicks once or twice in 30 matches... This guy is a proper tail ender...
 
The trio of Ifthikar, Asif Ali and Khushdil in the middle order is a recipe for disaster.

More often than not they will cost you matches, are a liability and are at best average.

Even Shoaib Malik is a better option than these 3.
 
Saj said:
The trio of Ifthikar, Asif Ali and Khushdil in the middle order is a recipe for disaster.

More often than not they will cost you matches, are a liability and are at best average.

Even Shoaib Malik is a better option than these 3.
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Do you think the Pakistani selectors are aware of this? Idk how Pakistan can take these 3 to the World Cup.
 
Saj said:
The trio of Ifthikar, Asif Ali and Khushdil in the middle order is a recipe for disaster.

More often than not they will cost you matches, are a liability and are at best average.

Even Shoaib Malik is a better option than these 3.
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Unfortunately we cant make changes just before WC. They will need to be backed.

Haider is supremely low on confidence.

Malik on bouncy Australia? Not sure about that
 
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Saj said:
The trio of Ifthikar, Asif Ali and Khushdil in the middle order is a recipe for disaster.

More often than not they will cost you matches, are a liability and are at best average.

Even Shoaib Malik is a better option than these 3.
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completely agree with you,

however who can replace these lot -
haider shown he's not ready,
h.talat is the same as above
Faheem Ashraf again is hit/miss,
Sohaib Maqsood simply no,

Azam Khan no- too big and cant field,
Aamer Yamin imo not good enough for the future,
Danish Aziz same as the three above, Sohail Akhtar too old

Kamran Ghulam?
Rohail Nazir?
imad wasim= move shadab khan to a number 6 and use imad as a 7/8 batsmen

also need to raise same question regarding Iftikhar Ahmed - doesnt look like a number 4 at all
 
Saj said:
The trio of Ifthikar, Asif Ali and Khushdil in the middle order is a recipe for disaster.

More often than not they will cost you matches, are a liability and are at best average.

Even Shoaib Malik is a better option than these 3.
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Malik cannot play fast bowling to save his life. He is equally worse and prolly Asif and Ifti (good outing in Australia last time) are better bets than Malik.
 
We have a specialist tailender batsmen , one of a kind , even some bowlers can slog and score more runs.
 
gazza619 said:
Unfortunately we cant make changes just before WC. They will need to be backed.

Haider is supremely low on confidence.

Malik on bouncy Australia? Not sure about that
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Surely Haider Ali cannot be worse than Kushdil?

Iftikhar and Kushdil are both trash. I would persist with Asif Ali because he has contributed with small cameos. The otherd HAVE to go.

I'd like to see Shan Masood in the team.
 
Khushdil Shah has batted 17 times in T20Is. In 12 of those innings he has scored 15 or less. On top of that he has a strike-rate of just 111.41 in T20Is
 
Saj said:
The trio of Ifthikar, Asif Ali and Khushdil in the middle order is a recipe for disaster.

More often than not they will cost you matches, are a liability and are at best average.

Even Shoaib Malik is a better option than these 3.
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It is an Abysmal middle order the Trio is quite useless. Need to bring back Shoaib Malik and Imad Wasim. I can't believe they dont have a spot for Imad in this side. Iftikhar hasn't bowled a single over nor Khushdil has bowled one. Imad is not only a better batsman but he is a far better bowler also.
Asif Ali showed his limitations again. It is the top 3 plus Shahdab & Nawaz who are doing all the work. We must drop at least 2 out of the Trio, if not all of the trio.
 
Saj said:
Khushdil Shah has batted 17 times in T20Is. In 12 of those innings he has scored 15 or less. On top of that he has a strike-rate of just 111.41 in T20Is
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This is a good enough run to work out the calibre of a player, and he is downright trash. Haider and Shan come in for Iftikhar and Khushdil, its a given swap.
 
I see no point in playing Happy Heart if he doesn't get to bowl.

Instead pick a batsmen who can actually play to the situation and not block or slog like Happy Heart does
 
I was hearing from the commentary today that the T20 World Cup Squad has to be named by the 15th of this month? Considering how bad Fakhar, Ifti, Kushdil and Asif have been so what is Mr Powerpoint going to do??

He won't drop all of them. My guess is that Ifti and Kushdil will be left at home with Shaan and Malik coming in. The batting middle order of Shaan, Malik and Haider Ali will given a chance against England. But who knows what Mohammed Wasim is thinking.
 
Don't we have any effortless flick-for-six hitters like Sharjeel, Yuvraj with excellent hand-eye coordination in the domestics? All we have are ugly sloggers like Khushdil and our hitter-in-chief rarely clicks. The key to such a batsman is a decent FC average and a T20 SR over 130. Khushdil and Asif average 25 in FC. Fakhar is not quite himself.
 
Given the current situation, Sharjeel in for Fakhar , Shaan in for ifti cha-cha , Saim ayub for khushdil , Asif can stay if he performs against England
 
Saj said:
Khushdil Shah has batted 17 times in T20Is. In 12 of those innings he has scored 15 or less. On top of that he has a strike-rate of just 111.41 in T20Is
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People ignore his stats. He is downright pathetic and also averages only 22.

He is one of the worst batsman to play for Pakistan.
 
At least Asif Ali has a good SR and actually has done something.

Khushdil has a pathetic SR and never ever has shown he can hit big.

Seriously what is he doing in the team?!?!
 
gazza619 said:
Unfortunately we cant make changes just before WC. They will need to be backed.

Haider is supremely low on confidence.

Malik on bouncy Australia? Not sure about that
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I don’t understand this thinking that it’s too late to make changes? Why? You can always make changes especially when you get the non existent performances of Ifti and Khushdil.

How can anyone be any worse? How can we conclude haidar is low on confidence, he hasn’t even got a chance to play. And if he was so low on confidence prior to the tournament, why is he even in the squad?
 
We still have the English and Tri Series in NZL to go. Plenty of time. Need to give all the alternate options a go including Imad, Shan, Haider and the rest.

We cannot go with the like of Chacha & Khushdil in the middle order.
 
Shan in - Chacha out
Haider in - Khusdhil out

I really dont want to take Asif to the T20 WC either but since he has hit 1 Mighty 6 to Bhuvi and which ended up on the winning side, i find it hard that Mr power point will drop him
Asif and Khushdil both are CLUB level batsman who can sometime give you glory . They will fail 9/10 time though, unfortunately the fans have short term memory loss and they only remember sixes and consistency is meaningless to them
 
Tough to choose who actually is the worst out of these 2.

Both terrible batters.
 
Khushdil Shah at the Asia Cup 2022:

Innings 6
Runs 58
Average 14.50
Strike-rate 120.83
 
Khushfail is trash.

Ifthikar, Khushfail need to be thrown out ASAP.

Shan Masood and Shoaib Malik need to be in the team.
 
I dont know how this guy keeps on playing. This should be his last match. FOR GOD's SAKE!
 
What else was he meant to do with 8 balls?

Absolutely ridiculous by Shan and Rizwan!!

You will obviously get some good balls, hence even big hitters need time.
 
I really don't know how you can blame middle order batsmen when they are left with 8 balls to try and score an extra 40 runs. That's not to say Shah is a good player, but he played quite well in his previous innings, in this one he never had a chance. The game had already been surrendered by the top order in the prime overs.
 
Barragan said:
What else was he meant to do with 8 balls?

Absolutely ridiculous by Shan and Rizwan!!

You will obviously get some good balls, hence even big hitters need time.
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Cpt. Rishwat said:
I really don't know how you can blame middle order batsmen when they are left with 8 balls to try and score an extra 40 runs. That's not to say Shah is a good player, but he played quite well in his previous innings, in this one he never had a chance. The game had already been surrendered by the top order in the prime overs.
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What about the rest of matches? When has Khushdil ever performed? Its pathetiic.
 
Should not have been sent in today.

Only 9 balls were left in the innings. He has been struggling. It wasn't going to end well was it.
 
Barragan said:
What else was he meant to do with 8 balls?

Absolutely ridiculous by Shan and Rizwan!!

You will obviously get some good balls, hence even big hitters need time.
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What exactly is he in the team for then. People tout him as a power hitter, but he can’t do that. Some will argue he needs some time to get set.

Ok then, Last game with the early wickets he had a great chance to show what he can do. He failed then too. So again - what exactly is he in the team for?
 
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