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Well done King Kohli :14:


He has already scored more runs in the 1st inning of this series than he did in the entire 5 test series in 2014.

Stuff of legends by King Kohli :kohli
 
Imagine him backing this up with a 4th inning chase, and he will officially be the greatest Indian batsman ever for me.
 
INCREDIBLE innings. He had some luck yes, but the way he handled the strike was mindblowing. Bets batting with tailenders and control of strike I have seen in many years. All time great knock.
 
Added 92 runs with #10 and #11

I can't recall someone playing better with the tail in an inning. The way he shielded Yadav, Sharma and kept taking singles with ease on 5th, 6th deliveries. Just sheer genius.
 
Kohli is by far the best batsmen of his generation.. Over the last few years he has shut up all his critics with his performances and even his staunchest critics like [MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] have become his fans..


Such is the power of Kohli..
 
TM Riddle said:
If he end this series on a high note, he would get past Smith in my eyes.
In LOIs nobody comes close to the champion.
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It would be unfair to say he goes past Smith in the absence of Smith. Let him return and see how the return goes. Kohli isn't far behind at all but he is #2 to Smith without doubt. Smith has dominated high profile test series.

Hate to bring it up though. This is all about Kohli right now. What a remarkable knock he played. One of the best ever. Don't care about the early on chances, part of test cricket.
 
1 of his best knocks without a doubt.

Easily the best batsmen in the world and the best batsmen of this era.
 
freelance_cricketer said:
It would be unfair to say he goes past Smith in the absence of Smith. Let him return and see how the return goes. Kohli isn't far behind at all but he is #2 to Smith without doubt. Smith has dominated high profile test series.

Hate to bring it up though. This is all about Kohli right now. What a remarkable knock he played. One of the best ever. Don't care about the early on chances, part of test cricket.
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What say then FC , is he better than Tendu as an overall package? :afridi
 
Batsmen like Sharma and Dhawan may outshine Kohli on flat tracks but when the conditions are difficult, when true class is required, that's when you realize the quality of Kohli, it is then you can see how much ahead he is from others.
 
A brilliant knock for sure esp how he played with the tail.

Greatest batsmen of his generation? Not in tests, there are others esp Smith who have done better.
 
TM Riddle said:
What say then FC , is he better than Tendu as an overall package? :afridi
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Ahem...Tendulkar took a few wickets as well..hehe..

Jokes aside...he will surpass Sachin one day...if he hasn't already..

Only stuff you could hold against him the quality of opposition bowlers but his batting in South Africa and this inning in England will have significantly reduced whatever gap exished between the two.
 
TM Riddle said:
What say then FC , is he better than Tendu as an overall package? :afridi
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I love how Kohli is able to bring the maximum from himself despite the odds. Tendulkar clearly was a superior batting talent. He did with ease what Kohli makes look like a painful effort sometimes. No Kohli is not above Tendulkar and maybe he never will but he can still be the best of his generation and maybe even overtake Tendulakr statistically.
 
Was he batting on a different pitch ?

Great knock and his individual brilliance is reflected in such a lopsided batting scorecard.
 
Wonderful innings and if he can take his team over the line, maybe the best knock of the last five years.
 
Phenomenal knock by Kohli!!

149 on a wicket where batsmen have really struggled with so much pressure on him - once again Kohli shows why he's one of the best around
 
Markhor said:
Was he batting on a different pitch ?

Great knock and his individual brilliance is reflected in such a lopsided batting scorecard.
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Same pitch and struggled a lot initially with the swing but he decided to fight it out and was rewarded finally.
 
Amongst all the test innings he has played in England so far, this one would have to be his best :genius
 
He has all the ingredients to get pass Tendulkar.But age is not by his side.

Just awesome.Easily the greatest of his generation.
 
big_gamer007 said:
Kohli is by far the best batsmen of his generation.. Over the last few years he has shut up all his critics with his performances and even his staunchest critics like [MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] have become his fans..


Such is the power of Kohli..
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I always criticise when it is warranted and also give credit where due, there's a difference between being a blind worshipper and an objective cricket fan with a supreme intellect. Nationality of players doesn't bother me as much as it bothers others.
 
Dob't forget his direct hit run out changed the course of England's first inning.

If India wins this test, Kohli has made a huge impact in it.
 
shaz619 said:
I always criticise when it is warranted and also give credit where due, there's a difference between being a blind worshipper and an objective cricket fan with a supreme intellect. Nationality of players doesn't bother me as much as it bothers others.
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Wow a regular humble joe, aren't you buddy?
 
Couldn't even get India into the lead. Was dropped a dozen times.

Decent knock nonetheless but he will waste it with his captaincy tomorrow.
 
Best batsman of generation. Bit behind steve smith in tests but overall no one is near him.
 
JattMaula said:
Couldn't even get India into the lead. Was dropped a dozen times.

Decent knock nonetheless but he will waste it with his captaincy tomorrow.
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Dozen = 12. Are you seriously telling me he was dropped 12 times. or you somehow you think 2 is closer to 12. He was ultra fluent once he reached a point.
 
JattMaula said:
Couldn't even get India into the lead. Was dropped a dozen times.

Decent knock nonetheless but he will waste it with his captaincy tomorrow.
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Your all hatred against him will be dusted in ashes by the end of this series.
 
JattMaula said:
Couldn't even get India into the lead. Was dropped a dozen times.

Decent knock nonetheless but he will waste it with his captaincy tomorrow.
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Deal with it :)
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KingKhanWC said:
Cook. He has scored hundreds in all nations including 5 in India.

Sure he's not as fluent as Kohli can be but overall his test career is superiour. Kohli may surpass him but unlikely due to his age now.
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Okay.

He's up there for sure. Not sure there's a lot between the two. Kohli is destined to overtake Cook. At this pace it wont be long.
 
People don’t realize the presence of a legend until he has already retired.

This guy is one in a million. Need to forget all about the nonsense ego that “oh I’m a Pakistani so this guy is Indian so I must hate him, apnay ghar ka Kohli”.

This man’s batting clips are shown in worldwide cricket academies for young cricketers to learn from.

Very rarely do you have talent matched with insane grit and mental fortitude. So many cricketers of the past have one but not the other.

Let’s enjoy the last 7-8 years he has left in cricket. Right now he only has team India on his shoulders, maybe in a few decades he will have the whole of India on them as well.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Cook. He has scored hundreds in all nations including 5 in India.

Sure he's not as fluent as Kohli can be but overall his test career is superiour. Kohli may surpass him but unlikely due to his age now.
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Surely you must be the only guy in the world (including Cook himself) to rate Cook above Kohli. Trust me, I wont be surprised now if you put Hashim Amla above Kohli now.
 
Suleiman said:
People don’t realize the presence of a legend until he has already retired.

This guy is one in a million. Need to forget all about the nonsense ego that “oh I’m a Pakistani so this guy is Indian so I must hate him, apnay ghar ka Kohli”.

This man’s batting clips are shown in worldwide cricket academies for young cricketers to learn from.

Very rarely do you have talent matched with insane grit and mental fortitude. So many cricketers of the past have one but not the other.

Let’s enjoy the last 7-8 years he has left in cricket. Right now he only has team India on his shoulders, maybe in a few decades he will have the whole of India on them as well.
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Well said. These guys are treasure for cricket. Root proved in the first innings. Kohli proved here. Many would have played rash shots and got out after 8 wickets were down. He took calculated risks.
 
dildilpak said:
Surely you must be the only guy in the world (including Cook himself) to rate Cook above Kohli. Trust me, I wont be surprised now if you put Hashim Amla above Kohli now.
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I wouldn't put Amla over Ganguly lol. I still remember Amla scratching around 49th over when they needed about 20 runs in 3 overs and they ended up losing.
 
dildilpak said:
Surely you must be the only guy in the world (including Cook himself) to rate Cook above Kohli. Trust me, I wont be surprised now if you put Hashim Amla above Kohli now.
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Im not emotional over what I have seen today.

Cook has been doing it for years. Cook has 5 tons in India avg over 50. Kohli has one ton in England avg 25. Cook has scored double the runs of Kohli in tests and has a brilliant average of over 45 for an English opener.

Kohli has never played a test against a team which has a one of the best bowling line ups, Pakistan. We dont know how he would have done. So we can only go by facts, which is he has done nothing because he hasn't played.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Im not emotional over what I have seen today.

Cook has been doing it for years. Cook has 5 tons in India avg over 50. Kohli has one ton in England avg 25. Cook has scored double the runs of Kohli in tests and has a brilliant average of over 45 for an English opener.

Kohli has never played a test against a team which has a one of the best bowling line ups, Pakistan. We dont know how he would have done. So we can only go by facts, which is he has done nothing because he hasn't played.
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Bhai best bowling line up teams doesnt have consistent low ranking like pakistan. Which world have you come ?

Kindly tell us kohli runs as well in every country and dnt worry you wont include england as well after this 5 test match series
 
Suleiman said:
People don’t realize the presence of a legend until he has already retired.

This guy is one in a million. Need to forget all about the nonsense ego that “oh I’m a Pakistani so this guy is Indian so I must hate him, apnay ghar ka Kohli”.

This man’s batting clips are shown in worldwide cricket academies for young cricketers to learn from.

Very rarely do you have talent matched with insane grit and mental fortitude. So many cricketers of the past have one but not the other.

Let’s enjoy the last 7-8 years he has left in cricket. Right now he only has team India on his shoulders, maybe in a few decades he will have the whole of India on them as well.
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Another key aspect you missed. Imagine the generation of young Indian batsmen Kohli is inspiring. Gavaskar's influence gave birth to Tendulkar. Then Sachin had his mark on youngsters and we got Viru, Kohli etc. Now most youngsters aspire to be Kohli and imagine how many good batsman India are gonna get in future due to Kohli's influence. We already have Shubhman Gill whose batting is a copy book of Kohli. Great days ahead for Indian batting.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Cook. He has scored hundreds in all nations including 5 in India.

Sure he's not as fluent as Kohli can be but overall his test career is superiour. Kohli may surpass him but unlikely due to his age now.
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Cook avgs 45 with the bat.Lol. He is nowhere close to the likes of Kohli or Smith.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Cook avgs 45 with the bat.Lol. He is nowhere close to the likes of Kohli or Smith.
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Cook is an opener and opens in conditions where the ball actually moves. Please understand the difference of an openers average to someone who bats at no.4 and mostly good conditions for batting at home.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Cook is an opener and opens in conditions where the ball actually moves. Please understand the difference of an openers average to someone who bats at no.4 and mostly good conditions for batting at home.
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In india tests gets over in 2 or 3 days or mostly at worst condition 4 days. So batting in tests in india is never easy. Plus that 's tge reason you need to look kohli record in every country and kohli strike rate as well.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Cook is an opener and opens in conditions where the ball actually moves. Please understand the difference of an openers average to someone who bats at no.4 and mostly good conditions for batting at home.
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Which is actually true for Smith, who feasts on the flattest decks on the planet. Indian tracks on the other hand have been rank turners as Ashwin or Jadeja's ATG record would suggest, far from good batting conditions.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Cook is an opener and opens in conditions where the ball actually moves. Please understand the difference of an openers average to someone who bats at no.4 and mostly good conditions for batting at home.
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Don't mind the comments of jealous Indian posters.
Had Cook played at no 4 his average would have been somewhat near 55. Not to mention the better bowling attack he faced.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Cook is an opener and opens in conditions where the ball actually moves. Please understand the difference of an openers average to someone who bats at no.4 and mostly good conditions for batting at home.
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So the 50 avg of Hayden be considered 60 or 65?

Or the 52 avg of Gavaskar be considered as 65? Will make him the greatest batsman if his era, surpassing sir viv. Isnt it?

Good conditions for batting at home? Really? When was the last time you watched a test in India?
 
Lol, Cook is at Kirsten level, nothing more than that mind you.

An England great(Tests) and a non-entity in LO.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Cook is an opener and opens in conditions where the ball actually moves. Please understand the difference of an openers average to someone who bats at no.4 and mostly good conditions for batting at home.
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Which great bowling attack has Cook succeeded against?

Please names bowling attack , not country name?
 
Kohli is a dominating batsman. He scores quickly even when others find tough. Even in SA he did that on both his tours. He did the same in Australia. Cook bored his way to few good series. We had many like him. JOnathan Trott. Root is probably more a legit comparison.Rightnow Smithy is the only true rival for Kohli.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Cook. He has scored hundreds in all nations including 5 in India.

Sure he's not as fluent as Kohli can be but overall his test career is superiour. Kohli may surpass him but unlikely due to his age now.
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I'm sorry but even England fans and pundits will tell you Kohli is way better than their Cook. It is not even close thing. Look at each of their records in every country.

Even as a Pakistan fan there is no denying that he would have no problems batting in the UAE. Our bowlers aren't at the level of Aus and SA and he plays spin very well.

With all due respect all I see is sour grapes.
 
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jnaveen1980 said:
Kohli is a dominating batsman. He scores quickly even when others find tough. Even in SA he did that on both his tours. He did the same in Australia. Cook bored his way to few good series. We had many like him. JOnathan Trott. Root is probably more a legit comparison.Rightnow Smithy is the only true rival for Kohli.
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At one time when Cook was at his peak people thought he will break Sachin's test record. They never thought about one thing that Sachin too had many peaks in both the formats but even when he wasn't at his peak he used to score consistently. Now I don't see anyone saying Cook will break Sachin's record.
 
One of the best innings under pressure with tail. Reminds me Asif Iqbal(152N) vs Australia, 96 runs last wkt partnership with debutant Iqbal Qasim(4).
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
At one time when Cook was at his peak people thought he will break Sachin's test record. They never thought about one thing that Sachin too had many peaks in both the formats but even when he wasn't at his peak he used to score consistently. Now I don't see anyone saying Cook will break Sachin's record.
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Longevity is the hallmark of greatness.

Ponting was also super hot at one point then he had the most ridiculous drop in form for a great player.

Kohli is cool but let's wait till he ends his career. Bad phases have ruined many players stats.

15k test runs at 54 is a monstrous batting record, especially given Tendulkar had career threatening injuries to deal with. Respect to Sachin. He almost makes you forget tennis elbow was ever a thing. Those who nervously followed him through the early 2000s know what i am talking about. Sachin was a different player post tennis elbow operations. His sheer genius ensures he stayed on top but his power game was lost and he had to reinvent himself.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
At one time when Cook was at his peak people thought he will break Sachin's test record. They never thought about one thing that Sachin too had many peaks in both the formats but even when he wasn't at his peak he used to score consistently. Now I don't see anyone saying Cook will break Sachin's record.
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Can cook do this?lol Lara ripped Kaneria to shreds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz0Bl-Tud_U
 
I honestly didn't think he had it in him. I had to go after Ashwin got out, so I haven't seen the latter part of his innings. But I gave India no chance of reaching parity. Great knock in the context of the match and in the context of his career.

He has surpassed Smith for me. Without a doubt the greatest batsman of this generation. Well, until Bobby Azam comes of age :ma
 
Ab Fan said:
Which great bowling attack has Cook succeeded against?

Please names bowling attack , not country name?
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He scored 5 tons in India where their spinners at home on their surfaces are hard to play against. Or are you saying Indian spinners in all those matches were rubbish?
 
topspin said:
I'm sorry but even England fans and pundits will tell you Kohli is way better than their Cook. It is not even close thing. Look at each of their records in every country.

Even as a Pakistan fan there is no denying that he would have no problems batting in the UAE. Our bowlers aren't at the level of Aus and SA and he plays spin very well.

With all due respect all I see is sour grapes.
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Which English pundits have said this? Please quote them.

Why would I be sour? I grew up watching Tendulkar score many more centuries even against Pakistan. I just think Indians are deluded thinking he is one of the all time greatest test match batsmen at this moment.
 
Obviously a very good hit but not an ATG one, he gave too many chances. He was strongest after he reached his hundred, England were dismantled and left without answers.
 
He still won't surpass Smith . Smith is just another beast all together in test..Also kohli has never played againt the Windies of the 80's or Australia of the 90's. Heck he hasn't played against full strentgh Pakistan team that comprises of Waqar, Wasim and Shoaib. Hence its easy to see Kohli has it easy and never faced goat bowlers who Sachin or Ponting faced..
 
Some of the other Indian batsmen need to take a long hard look at themselves and really need to start supporting Kohli.

It seems that it's Kohli or nothing a lot of the time.
 
KingKhanWC said:
He scored 5 tons in India where their spinners at home on their surfaces are hard to play against. Or are you saying Indian spinners in all those matches were rubbish?
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2016 tour:- India had Ashwin/Jadeja who are deadly at home but Cook got a hundred on the flattest pitch of that whole season( Aus/SA/NZ all toured but Rajkot was the flattest, even Moeen and Stokes got a hundred). He struggled against Jadeja as well and ended up with an average of 35 which was very mediocre but only England were served with those flat pitches in whole session.

2012 tour:- He delivered his career best performance by delivering three hundreds but bowlers were Naman Ojha and a newbie Ashwin who was bowling trash. Ojha was India's leading spinner at that time. His inning on rank-turner was a great one but KP completely overshadowed him by not just scoring but destroying Indian attack there.

Overall, he has done great against India and Australia but cashed on easier attacks. Even his 290 in Abu Dhabi came against the worst Pakistan attack I have ever witnessed.

Now, all this doesn't make Cook a bad player( he is a great test player) but stating that his average is low because he has played against top attacksand in toughest conditions and his average would be 55 if he batted at 4 is exaggeration of another level.
 
Snak3eye5 said:
He still won't surpass Smith . Smith is just another beast all together in test..Also kohli has never played againt the Windies of the 80's or Australia of the 90's. Heck he hasn't played against full strentgh Pakistan team that comprises of Waqar, Wasim and Shoaib. Hence its easy to see Kohli has it easy and never faced goat bowlers who Sachin or Ponting faced..
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He has faced Steyn(2014, I was even there at that time) and Rabada(2018) though.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Which English pundits have said this? Please quote them.

Why would I be sour? I grew up watching Tendulkar score many more centuries even against Pakistan. I just think Indians are deluded thinking he is one of the all time greatest test match batsmen at this moment.
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That's exactly the point no knowledgeable English cricket fan (let alone their pundits) in their right mind would associate Cook with Kohli's calibre.

Every single English pundit would tell you (if they were asked) that Kohli is far superior of the two.
 
Ab Fan said:
2016 tour:- India had Ashwin/Jadeja who are deadly at home but Cook got a hundred on the flattest pitch of that whole season( Aus/SA/NZ all toured but Rajkot was the flattest, even Moeen and Stokes got a hundred). He struggled against Jadeja as well and ended up with an average of 35 which was very mediocre <B>but</B> only England were served with those flat pitches in whole session.

2012 tour:- He delivered his career best performance by delivering three hundreds but bowlers were Naman Ojha and a newbie Ashwin who was bowling trash. Ojha was India's leading spinner at that time. His inning on rank-turner was a great one but KP completely overshadowed him by not just scoring but destroying Indian attack there.

Overall, he has done great against India and Australia but cashed on easier attacks. Even his 290 in Abu Dhabi came against the worst Pakistan attack I have ever witnessed.

Now, all this doesn't make Cook a bad player( he is a great test player) but stating that his average is low because he has played against top attacksand in toughest conditions and his average would be 55 if he batted at 4 is exaggeration of another level.
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#because
 
On topic, he gave some chances at the beginning and looked vulnerable against his England love, Jimmy. So, a great inning but not ATG one.
 
Ab Fan said:
2016 tour:- India had Ashwin/Jadeja who are deadly at home but Cook got a hundred on the flattest pitch of that whole season( Aus/SA/NZ all toured but Rajkot was the flattest, even Moeen and Stokes got a hundred). He struggled against Jadeja as well and ended up with an average of 35 which was very mediocre but only England were served with those flat pitches in whole session.

2012 tour:- He delivered his career best performance by delivering three hundreds but bowlers were Naman Ojha and a newbie Ashwin who was bowling trash. Ojha was India's leading spinner at that time. His inning on rank-turner was a great one but KP completely overshadowed him by not just scoring but destroying Indian attack there.

Overall, he has done great against India and Australia but cashed on easier attacks. Even his 290 in Abu Dhabi came against the worst Pakistan attack I have ever witnessed.

Now, all this doesn't make Cook a bad player( he is a great test player) but stating that his average is low because he has played against top attacksand in toughest conditions and his average would be 55 if he batted at 4 is exaggeration of another level.
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He scored 130 in the second innings not the first, so it wasn't as flat you as you claim. In the second innings no Indian crossed 50, thats how flat it was. lol

He has a better record in India, than Kohli has in England.
 
topspin said:
That's exactly the point no knowledgeable English cricket fan (let alone their pundits) in their right mind would associate Cook with Kohli's calibre.

Every single English pundit would tell you (if they were asked) that Kohli is far superior of the two.
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All am I asking is for you to show me some quotes? Surely you must of read of some who compare Cook with Kohli saying Cook is not as good? Or are you making this up?
 
KingKhanWC said:
All am I asking is for you to show me some quotes? Surely you must of read of some who compare Cook with Kohli saying Cook is not as good? Or are you making this up?
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You're not getting the point, no one would draw a comparison between the two because they're not deluded enough to even raise this!

Kohli is miles ahead hence why it doesn't get discussed, therefore no quotes! simple logic my friend.
 
This knock and the one in Adelaide on a square turner are the best of his knocks I have seen.

Was batting on a different surface while all other batsmen succumbed.
 
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