Comparison between Babar Azam, Sachin Tendulkar & Virat Kohli at the same point in their ODI careers

[Abraham786]

After 111 ODIs...

View attachment 137903

Lol comparing different era batsman with different type of odi rules at that time ,if stats all than Babar is better than Sachin ,Viv Richards, Abdv

And Rizwan is better than 35 avg and 100+ strikes rate Glichrist.

 

[mominsaigol]

Babar’s entire career is a fluke. Such an insanity to compare him to Kohli & Tendulkar. Actually, Babar isn’t even the top 5 Pakistani ODI batsmen, which says a lot because Pakistani hasn’t produced a world class ODI batsman that consistently performs on the big stage after Saeed Anwar.

Babar's career isn't a fluke. He was an okay bat in 2016 and bashed minnows, he then improved in 2017 developing a singles game and that odd six hitting ability.

He then peaked in 2019 becoming a pretty solid no 3.

He however since then regressed. Zero improvement since 2019 because he never escaped that comfort zone. Kohli in 2012 was mocked for being clueless against early inswing and outswing and it seemed that at one point people wanted to move kohli to no 4, because they were worried thay if the openers depart early, then kohli struggles.

What did kohli do before CT 2013? He went to the nets and played like 500 balls of killer inswing and outswing. It's why that killer inswing bothers people like rohit sharma but never bothers kohli anymore.

Let's identify babar's weakeness in 2016= He couldn't take singles properly.

By 2019: Hes good at taking singles.

Let's analyse his weakness in 2019= He can't play modern cricket aka keeping up rr, nor is he a good chaser, and he's horrible against spin.

What does Babar do in these 4 years? He's still horrible against spin and can't attack the bowling. If anything he promotes himself to opening in t20 because coming in at no 3 in t20 means that if the openers get of to a good start, Babar would be forced to attack and quickly play attacking cricket, so he sticks in his comfort zone.

Look at rohit sharma, people mocked him for being a clown against swing and just a spineless lower order bat and not aggressive at all. You know what rohit does?

Goes to opening where it swings the most and attack PP 1 like theirs no tmr, 46 sixes in the past 1000 balls played with India and 38 are from rohit whereas Pakistan has hit only 2 . That's what you call getting out of your comfort zone and improving. Not shoving yourself from opening to no 3, because you don't want to prove your critics who claim you can't attack the bowling wrong .

 

[mominsaigol]

Lol comparing different era batsman with different type of odi rules at that time ,if stats all than Babar is better than Sachin ,Viv Richards, Abdv

And Rizwan is better than 35 avg and 100+ strikes rate Glichrist.

I despise the stats argument so much, only clueless posters have presented me that argument and I've shut them down non stop.

 

[Tintin]

This is my first post in PP although I have been a member since quite some time. Being a kid from the 90s era, I used to remember the matches where I used to switch off my TV once Sachin got out, others were just useless. There was hope for us until Sachin was there at the crease. 250 was a decent target in ODIs and if you can somehow manage to get to a score of 270-280 (300 was a rarity), you are almost assured of winning the match. Although I hate the fact that Sachin tried to prolong his career and had become a stats machine during the end of his era, I find it absolutely ridiculous when someone tries to compare either Kohli or Babar to him on the basis of so called stats. Kohli has Rohit at the other end, Babar has Rizwan but there was no one for Sachin, he was a one man army during the 90s. On the basis of era and the sheer impact of innings played, Sachin >>>>>> Kohli >>>>>> Babar.

 

[SportsWarrior]

Sachin, Virat, Viv, Ponting, Gilchrist, ABDV, are all greats of the game. Babar can't even be compared to them. Leave them aside. If I could choose anyone from the last 25 years to construct my playing 11 for an ODI, here are some of the players, just from top of my mind, in no particular order I would choose over Babar

Yuvi, Inzamam, Dhoni, Warner, Travis Head, Conway, Ross Taylor, Pooran, Mendis, Watson, Sikandar Raja, de-kock, Klassan, Miller, butler, baristow, etc. There are probably another 10 or 15 i am forgetting.

Babar is a king of soft runs like Amla.

 

[Hitman]

Sachin, Virat, Viv, Ponting, Gilchrist, ABDV, are all greats of the game. Babar can't even be compared to them. Leave them aside. If I could choose anyone from the last 25 years to construct my playing 11 for an ODI, here are some of the players, just from top of my mind, in no particular order I would choose over Babar

Yuvi, Inzamam, Dhoni, Warner, Travis Head, Conway, Ross Taylor, Pooran, Mendis, Watson, Sikandar Raja, de-kock, Klassan, Miller, butler, baristow, etc. There are probably another 10 or 15 i am forgetting.

Babar is a king of soft runs like Amla.

Amla was a complete softie. Yes, Babar does remind me of a lot about Amla.

 

[VForVendetta]

Amla was a complete softie. Yes, Babar does remind me of a lot about Amla.

Babar is more similar to Kallis than Amla if you observe closely. Sure he has lot in common with Amla, but ultimately it's Kallis whom he reminds more of. Unlike most posters here, you are someone who has watched Kallis in the 90's & early 00's, so I hope you will get the points I am making here. Amla would simply fail in big matches, he would hardly score on such occasions whereas Kallis would score those boring pathetic impactless statpadding knocks which would suck out all the momentum. Anyone can see which path Babar is going currently hence my reasoning.

 

[Hitman]

Babar is more similar to Kallis than Amla if you observe closely. Sure he has lot in common with Amla, but ultimately it's Kallis whom he reminds more of. Unlike most posters here, you are someone who has watched Kallis in the 90's & early 00's, so I hope you will get the points I am making here. Amla would simply fail in big matches, he would hardly score on such occasions whereas Kallis would score those boring pathetic impactless statpadding knocks which would suck out all the momentum. Anyone can see which path Babar is going currently hence my reasoning.

True! The worst World Cup knock I've ever seen till date is the one Kallis played in the semi final of the 1999 World Cup against Australia. Kallis could survive in the ODI side because ODI cricket was completely different during his time. And the worst thing is he never even tried to improve his ODI game. He remained the same one dimensional accumulator irrespective of match conditions throughout his career.

 

[Bhaijaan]

So, finally Virat Kohli can say that he has dominated at least 1 World Cup.

Total number of world cups dominated :-

Tendulkar - 3
Kohli - 1
Babar - 0

For those who will say Babar dominated 2019 World Cup, please know that you can’t call it domination when Sharma, Warner and Shakib had better World Cup than you.

Among the 3 of them, Tendulkar still holds his own.

 

[jeetu]

While this is not perfect as its missing some parameters but statistically this is how i compare all top ODI batters across eras.

Player

Mat

Runs

Ave

SR

100​

Era SR

Era Avg

SR/EraSR

Avg/EraAvg

Added

Multi

Avg

V Kohli

289​

13626​

58.48​

93.55​

49​

87.07​

31.00​

1.074​

1.887​

2.961​

2.027​

2.494​

AB de Villiers

228​

9577​

53.5​

101.09​

25​

85.56​

30.78​

1.182​

1.738​

2.920​

2.054​

2.487​

IVA Richards

187​

6721​

47​

90.2​

11​

72.45​

28.38​

1.245​

1.656​

2.901​

2.062​

2.481​

Zaheer Abbas

62​

2572​

47.62​

84.8​

7​

70.82​

27.91​

1.197​

1.706​

2.904​

2.043​

2.473​

Babar Azam

117​

5729​

56.72​

88.75​

19​

89.01​

31.44​

0.997​

1.804​

2.801​

1.799​

2.300​

MG Bevan

232​

6912​

53.58​

74.16​

6​

78.70​

29.70​

0.942​

1.804​

2.746​

1.700​

2.223​

MS Dhoni

350​

10773​

50.57​

87.56​

10​

85.64​

30.91​

1.022​

1.636​

2.658​

1.673​

2.166​

MEK Hussey

185​

5442​

48.15​

87.16​

3​

83.28​

30.15​

1.047​

1.597​

2.644​

1.671​

2.158​

RG Sharma

259​

10554​

49.08​

91.53​

31​

86.82​

30.95​

1.054​

1.586​

2.640​

1.672​

2.156​

JC Buttler

178​

4961​

39.68​

117.3​

11​

88.32​

31.35​

1.328​

1.266​

2.594​

1.681​

2.137​

HM Amla

181​

8113​

49.46​

88.39​

27​

86.78​

31.21​

1.019​

1.585​

2.603​

1.614​

2.109​

GJ Maxwell

136​

3892​

35.7​

127.06​

4​

88.32​

31.35​

1.439​

1.139​

2.577​

1.638​

2.108​

DA Warner

159​

6896​

45.66​

97.04​

22​

87.37​

31.12​

1.111​

1.467​

2.578​

1.629​

2.104​

SR Tendulkar

463​

18426​

44.83​

86.23​

49​

79.97​

29.79​

1.078​

1.505​

2.583​

1.622​

2.103​

Q de Kock

154​

6767​

46.03​

96.79​

21​

88.58​

31.37​

1.093​

1.467​

2.560​

1.603​

2.082​

JM Bairstow

107​

3868​

42.97​

102.92​

11​

87.94​

31.23​

1.170​

1.376​

2.546​

1.610​

2.078​

DA Miller

169​

4345​

42.18​

104.14​

5​

87.54​

31.14​

1.190​

1.355​

2.544​

1.611​

2.078​

Fakhar Zaman

82​

3492​

46.56​

93.44​

11​

88.41​

31.17​

1.057​

1.494​

2.551​

1.579​

2.065​

IJL Trott

68​

2819​

51.25​

77.06​

4​

84.44​

30.50​

0.913​

1.680​

2.593​

1.533​

2.063​

L Klusener

171​

3576​

41.1​

89.91​

2​

79.22​

29.73​

1.135​

1.383​

2.518​

1.569​

2.043​

KL Rahul

69​

2536​

48.76​

86.81​

6​

88.62​

31.22​

0.980​

1.562​

2.541​

1.530​

2.036​

DM Jones

164​

6068​

44.61​

72.56​

7​

73.54​

28.95​

0.987​

1.541​

2.527​

1.520​

2.024​

F du Plessis

143​

5507​

47.47​

88.6​

12​

87.90​

31.62​

1.008​

1.501​

2.509​

1.513​

2.011​

LRPL Taylor

236​

8607​

47.55​

83.32​

21​

85.84​

30.81​

0.971​

1.543​

2.514​

1.498​

2.006​

JE Root

171​

6522​

47.6​

86.77​

16​

88.58​

31.37​

0.980​

1.517​

2.497​

1.486​

1.992​

A Symonds

198​

5088​

39.75​

92.44​

6​

81.21​

29.94​

1.138​

1.328​

2.466​

1.511​

1.989​

JJ Roy

116​

4271​

39.91​

105.53​

12​

89.01​

31.44​

1.186​

1.270​

2.455​

1.505​

1.980​

S Dhawan

167​

6793​

44.11​

91.35​

17​

86.94​

31.18​

1.051​

1.415​

2.465​

1.486​

1.976​

KS Williamson

164​

6741​

48.49​

81.26​

13​

87.54​

31.14​

0.928​

1.557​

2.485​

1.445​

1.965​

V Sehwag

251​

8273​

35.05​

104.33​

15​

81.93​

29.99​

1.273​

1.169​

2.442​

1.488​

1.965​

ML Hayden

161​

6133​

43.8​

78.96​

10​

79.65​

29.69​

0.991​

1.475​

2.467​

1.462​

1.965​

Imam-ul-Haq

72​

3138​

48.27​

82.55​

9​

88.41​

31.17​

0.934​

1.549​

2.482​

1.446​

1.964​

CG Greenidge

128​

5134​

45.03​

64.92​

11​

72.45​

28.38​

0.896​

1.587​

2.483​

1.422​

1.952​

SD Hope

118​

4940​

50.4​

76.88​

15​

88.62​

31.22​

0.868​

1.614​

2.482​

1.400​

1.941​

AC Gilchrist

287​

9619​

35.89​

96.94​

16​

80.41​

29.78​

1.206​

1.205​

2.411​

1.453​

1.932​

SR Watson

190​

5757​

40.54​

90.44​

9​

83.89​

30.39​

1.078​

1.334​

2.412​

1.438​

1.925​

BA Stokes

114​

3463​

41.22​

95.68​

5​

87.94​

31.23​

1.088​

1.320​

2.408​

1.436​

1.922​

SPD Smith

153​

5322​

43.98​

87.72​

12​

87.54​

31.14​

1.002​

1.412​

2.414​

1.415​

1.915​

RT Ponting

375​

13704​

42.03​

80.39​

30​

81.14​

29.90​

0.991​

1.406​

2.396​

1.393​

1.894​

MJ Clarke

245​

7981​

44.58​

78.98​

8​

84.01​

30.40​

0.940​

1.466​

2.407​

1.379​

1.893​

KP Pietersen

136​

4440​

40.73​

86.58​

9​

83.47​

30.20​

1.037​

1.349​

2.386​

1.399​

1.892​

AJ Lamb

122​

4010​

39.31​

75.54​

4​

73.54​

28.93​

1.027​

1.359​

2.386​

1.396​

1.891​

Saeed Anwar

247​

8824​

39.21​

80.67​

20​

77.39​

29.50​

1.042​

1.329​

2.372​

1.386​

1.879​

BC Lara

299​

10405​

40.48​

79.51​

19​

78.91​

29.67​

1.008​

1.364​

2.372​

1.375​

1.873​

DR Martyn

208​

5346​

40.8​

77.73​

5​

78.64​

29.63​

0.988​

1.377​

2.365​

1.361​

1.863​

G Gambhir

147​

5238​

39.68​

85.25​

11​

82.94​

30.06​

1.028​

1.320​

2.348​

1.357​

1.852​

Javed Miandad

233​

7381​

41.7​

67.01​

8​

73.34​

28.64​

0.914​

1.456​

2.370​

1.330​

1.850​

MJ Guptill

198​

7346​

41.73​

87.29​

18​

86.80​

31.16​

1.006​

1.339​

2.345​

1.347​

1.846​

EJG Morgan

248​

7701​

39.29​

91.16​

14​

85.84​

30.81​

1.062​

1.275​

2.337​

1.354​

1.846​

JH Kallis

328​

11579​

44.36​

72.89​

17​

81.82​

30.06​

0.891​

1.476​

2.367​

1.315​

1.841​

TM Dilshan

330​

10290​

39.27​

86.23​

22​

83.16​

30.31​

1.037​

1.295​

2.332​

1.343​

1.838​

DS Lehmann

117​

3078​

38.96​

81.34​

4​

79.72​

29.87​

1.020​

1.304​

2.325​

1.331​

1.828​

ME Waugh

244​

8500​

39.35​

76.9​

18​

77.23​

29.58​

0.996​

1.330​

2.326​

1.325​

1.825​

RR Sarwan

181​

5804​

42.67​

75.74​

5​

82.28​

30.11​

0.921​

1.417​

2.338​

1.305​

1.821​

KC Sangakkara

404​

14234​

41.98​

78.86​

25​

83.23​

30.38​

0.947​

1.382​

2.329​

1.309​

1.819​

ME Trescothick

123​

4335​

37.37​

85.21​

12​

80.42​

29.91​

1.060​

1.250​

2.309​

1.324​

1.816​

MD Crowe

143​

4704​

38.55​

72.63​

4​

73.73​

28.95​

0.985​

1.332​

2.317​

1.312​

1.814​

WJ Cronje

188​

5565​

38.64​

76.47​

2​

76.87​

29.42​

0.995​

1.313​

2.308​

1.306​

1.807​

Mohammad Yousuf

288​

9720​

41.71​

75.1​

15​

81.36​

29.96​

0.923​

1.392​

2.315​

1.285​

1.800​

SC Ganguly

311​

11363​

41.02​

73.7​

22​

79.14​

29.71​

0.931​

1.381​

2.312​

1.286​

1.799​

G Kirsten

185​

6798​

40.95​

72.04​

13​

78.09​

29.57​

0.923​

1.385​

2.307​

1.278​

1.793​

MR Marsh

87​

2657​

36.9​

96.37​

3​

87.94​

31.23​

1.096​

1.182​

2.277​

1.295​

1.786​

Misbah-ul-Haq

162​

5122​

43.4​

73.75​

0​

83.89​

30.39​

0.879​

1.428​

2.307​

1.255​

1.781​

CH Gayle

301​

10480​

37.83​

87.19​

25​

83.97​

30.58​

1.038​

1.237​

2.275​

1.284​

1.780​

DL Haynes

238​

8648​

41.37​

63.09​

17​

72.83​

28.69​

0.866​

1.442​

2.308​

1.249​

1.779​

RG Twose

87​

2717​

38.81​

75.4​

1​

78.38​

29.65​

0.962​

1.309​

2.271​

1.259​

1.765​

A Ranatunga

269​

7456​

35.84​

77.9​

4​

75.50​

29.16​

1.032​

1.229​

2.261​

1.268​

1.765​

Inzamam-ul-Haq

378​

11739​

39.52​

74.24​

10​

79.04​

29.68​

0.939​

1.332​

2.271​

1.251​

1.761​

PA de Silva

308​

9284​

34.9​

81.13​

11​

76.72​

29.36​

1.057​

1.189​

2.246​

1.257​

1.751​

NV Knight

100​

3637​

40.41​

71.52​

5​

78.99​

29.69​

0.905​

1.361​

2.266​

1.232​

1.749​

SK Raina

226​

5615​

35.31​

93.5​

5​

85.56​

30.78​

1.093​

1.147​

2.240​

1.254​

1.747​

Yuvraj Singh

304​

8701​

36.55​

87.67​

14​

83.85​

30.57​

1.046​

1.196​

2.241​

1.250​

1.746​

S Chanderpaul

268​

8778​

41.6​

70.74​

11​

80.72​

29.87​

0.876​

1.393​

2.269​

1.220​

1.745​

AD Mathews

226​

5916​

40.24​

82.9​

3​

87.07​

31.00​

0.952​

1.298​

2.250​

1.236​

1.743​

HH Gibbs

248​

8094​

36.13​

83.26​

21​

80.95​

29.89​

1.029​

1.209​

2.237​

1.243​

1.740​

SC Williams

156​

4986​

38.06​

86.69​

8​

86.32​

30.84​

1.004​

1.234​

2.238​

1.239​

1.739​

PR Stirling

156​

5623​

38.25​

87.44​

14​

87.07​

31.00​

1.004​

1.234​

2.238​

1.239​

1.739​

ST Jayasuriya

445​

13430​

32.36​

91.2​

28​

79.83​

29.75​

1.142​

1.088​

2.230​

1.243​

1.736​

SE Marsh

73​

2773​

40.77​

81.41​

7​

86.78​

31.21​

0.938​

1.306​

2.244​

1.225​

1.735​

GC Smith

197​

6989​

37.98​

80.81​

10​

82.89​

30.08​

0.975​

1.262​

2.237​

1.231​

1.734​

JN Rhodes

245​

5935​

35.11​

80.9​

2​

77.70​

29.54​

1.041​

1.189​

2.230​

1.238​

1.734​

AJ Finch

146​

5406​

38.89​

87.73​

17​

87.96​

31.46​

0.997​

1.236​

2.233​

1.233​

1.733​

M Azharuddin

334​

9378​

36.92​

74.02​

7​

76.04​

29.33​

0.973​

1.259​

2.232​

1.225​

1.729​

HH Dippenaar

107​

3421​

42.23​

67.78​

4​

80.61​

29.81​

0.841​

1.416​

2.257​

1.191​

1.724​

GA Hick

120​

3846​

37.33​

74.08​

5​

76.96​

29.50​

0.963​

1.266​

2.228​

1.218​

1.723​

GJ Bailey

90​

3044​

40.58​

83.51​

3​

88.19​

31.63​

0.947​

1.283​

2.230​

1.215​

1.722​

KJ Coetzer

89​

3192​

38.92​

82.37​

5​

87.07​

31.00​

0.946​

1.256​

2.202​

1.188​

1.695​

CL Hooper

227​

5761​

35.34​

76.63​

7​

77.23​

29.52​

0.992​

1.197​

2.190​

1.188​

1.689​

JP Duminy

199​

5117​

36.81​

84.55​

4​

85.64​

30.91​

0.987​

1.191​

2.178​

1.176​

1.677​

Imran Khan

175​

3709​

33.41​

72.65​

1​

72.45​

28.49​

1.003​

1.173​

2.175​

1.176​

1.675​

Sikandar Raza

136​

4089​

37.51​

86.5​

7​

88.58​

31.37​

0.977​

1.196​

2.172​

1.168​

1.670​

A Flintoff

141​

3394​

32.01​

88.82​

3​

81.19​

29.86​

1.094​

1.072​

2.166​

1.173​

1.669​

A Jadeja

196​

5359​

37.47​

69.79​

6​

76.87​

29.42​

0.908​

1.273​

2.181​

1.156​

1.669​

R Dravid

344​

10889​

39.16​

71.23​

12​

81.16​

29.89​

0.878​

1.310​

2.188​

1.150​

1.669​

AJ Strauss

127​

4205​

35.63​

80.94​

6​

82.60​

29.93​

0.980​

1.190​

2.170​

1.166​

1.668​

Shakib Al Hasan

247​

7570​

37.29​

82.84​

9​

86.38​

30.81​

0.959​

1.210​

2.169​

1.161​

1.665​

NS Sidhu

136​

4413​

37.08​

69.72​

6​

76.02​

29.48​

0.917​

1.258​

2.175​

1.154​

1.664​

Ijaz Ahmed

250​

6564​

32.33​

80.3​

10​

76.12​

29.29​

1.055​

1.104​

2.159​

1.164​

1.662​

CS MacLeod

88​

3026​

38.3​

80.56​

10​

86.51​

31.01​

0.931​

1.235​

2.166​

1.150​

1.658​

 

[Bhaijaan]

While this is not perfect as its missing some parameters but statistically this is how i compare all top ODI batters across eras.

Player

Mat

Runs

Ave

SR

100​

Era SR

Era Avg

SR/EraSR

Avg/EraAvg

Added

Multi

Avg

V Kohli

289​

13626​

58.48​

93.55​

49​

87.07​

31.00​

1.074​

1.887​

2.961​

2.027​

2.494​

AB de Villiers

228​

9577​

53.5​

101.09​

25​

85.56​

30.78​

1.182​

1.738​

2.920​

2.054​

2.487​

IVA Richards

187​

6721​

47​

90.2​

11​

72.45​

28.38​

1.245​

1.656​

2.901​

2.062​

2.481​

Zaheer Abbas

62​

2572​

47.62​

84.8​

7​

70.82​

27.91​

1.197​

1.706​

2.904​

2.043​

2.473​

Babar Azam

117​

5729​

56.72​

88.75​

19​

89.01​

31.44​

0.997​

1.804​

2.801​

1.799​

2.300​

MG Bevan

232​

6912​

53.58​

74.16​

6​

78.70​

29.70​

0.942​

1.804​

2.746​

1.700​

2.223​

MS Dhoni

350​

10773​

50.57​

87.56​

10​

85.64​

30.91​

1.022​

1.636​

2.658​

1.673​

2.166​

MEK Hussey

185​

5442​

48.15​

87.16​

3​

83.28​

30.15​

1.047​

1.597​

2.644​

1.671​

2.158​

RG Sharma

259​

10554​

49.08​

91.53​

31​

86.82​

30.95​

1.054​

1.586​

2.640​

1.672​

2.156​

JC Buttler

178​

4961​

39.68​

117.3​

11​

88.32​

31.35​

1.328​

1.266​

2.594​

1.681​

2.137​

HM Amla

181​

8113​

49.46​

88.39​

27​

86.78​

31.21​

1.019​

1.585​

2.603​

1.614​

2.109​

GJ Maxwell

136​

3892​

35.7​

127.06​

4​

88.32​

31.35​

1.439​

1.139​

2.577​

1.638​

2.108​

DA Warner

159​

6896​

45.66​

97.04​

22​

87.37​

31.12​

1.111​

1.467​

2.578​

1.629​

2.104​

SR Tendulkar

463​

18426​

44.83​

86.23​

49​

79.97​

29.79​

1.078​

1.505​

2.583​

1.622​

2.103​

Q de Kock

154​

6767​

46.03​

96.79​

21​

88.58​

31.37​

1.093​

1.467​

2.560​

1.603​

2.082​

JM Bairstow

107​

3868​

42.97​

102.92​

11​

87.94​

31.23​

1.170​

1.376​

2.546​

1.610​

2.078​

DA Miller

169​

4345​

42.18​

104.14​

5​

87.54​

31.14​

1.190​

1.355​

2.544​

1.611​

2.078​

Fakhar Zaman

82​

3492​

46.56​

93.44​

11​

88.41​

31.17​

1.057​

1.494​

2.551​

1.579​

2.065​

IJL Trott

68​

2819​

51.25​

77.06​

4​

84.44​

30.50​

0.913​

1.680​

2.593​

1.533​

2.063​

L Klusener

171​

3576​

41.1​

89.91​

2​

79.22​

29.73​

1.135​

1.383​

2.518​

1.569​

2.043​

KL Rahul

69​

2536​

48.76​

86.81​

6​

88.62​

31.22​

0.980​

1.562​

2.541​

1.530​

2.036​

DM Jones

164​

6068​

44.61​

72.56​

7​

73.54​

28.95​

0.987​

1.541​

2.527​

1.520​

2.024​

F du Plessis

143​

5507​

47.47​

88.6​

12​

87.90​

31.62​

1.008​

1.501​

2.509​

1.513​

2.011​

LRPL Taylor

236​

8607​

47.55​

83.32​

21​

85.84​

30.81​

0.971​

1.543​

2.514​

1.498​

2.006​

JE Root

171​

6522​

47.6​

86.77​

16​

88.58​

31.37​

0.980​

1.517​

2.497​

1.486​

1.992​

A Symonds

198​

5088​

39.75​

92.44​

6​

81.21​

29.94​

1.138​

1.328​

2.466​

1.511​

1.989​

JJ Roy

116​

4271​

39.91​

105.53​

12​

89.01​

31.44​

1.186​

1.270​

2.455​

1.505​

1.980​

S Dhawan

167​

6793​

44.11​

91.35​

17​

86.94​

31.18​

1.051​

1.415​

2.465​

1.486​

1.976​

KS Williamson

164​

6741​

48.49​

81.26​

13​

87.54​

31.14​

0.928​

1.557​

2.485​

1.445​

1.965​

V Sehwag

251​

8273​

35.05​

104.33​

15​

81.93​

29.99​

1.273​

1.169​

2.442​

1.488​

1.965​

ML Hayden

161​

6133​

43.8​

78.96​

10​

79.65​

29.69​

0.991​

1.475​

2.467​

1.462​

1.965​

Imam-ul-Haq

72​

3138​

48.27​

82.55​

9​

88.41​

31.17​

0.934​

1.549​

2.482​

1.446​

1.964​

CG Greenidge

128​

5134​

45.03​

64.92​

11​

72.45​

28.38​

0.896​

1.587​

2.483​

1.422​

1.952​

SD Hope

118​

4940​

50.4​

76.88​

15​

88.62​

31.22​

0.868​

1.614​

2.482​

1.400​

1.941​

AC Gilchrist

287​

9619​

35.89​

96.94​

16​

80.41​

29.78​

1.206​

1.205​

2.411​

1.453​

1.932​

SR Watson

190​

5757​

40.54​

90.44​

9​

83.89​

30.39​

1.078​

1.334​

2.412​

1.438​

1.925​

BA Stokes

114​

3463​

41.22​

95.68​

5​

87.94​

31.23​

1.088​

1.320​

2.408​

1.436​

1.922​

SPD Smith

153​

5322​

43.98​

87.72​

12​

87.54​

31.14​

1.002​

1.412​

2.414​

1.415​

1.915​

RT Ponting

375​

13704​

42.03​

80.39​

30​

81.14​

29.90​

0.991​

1.406​

2.396​

1.393​

1.894​

MJ Clarke

245​

7981​

44.58​

78.98​

8​

84.01​

30.40​

0.940​

1.466​

2.407​

1.379​

1.893​

KP Pietersen

136​

4440​

40.73​

86.58​

9​

83.47​

30.20​

1.037​

1.349​

2.386​

1.399​

1.892​

AJ Lamb

122​

4010​

39.31​

75.54​

4​

73.54​

28.93​

1.027​

1.359​

2.386​

1.396​

1.891​

Saeed Anwar

247​

8824​

39.21​

80.67​

20​

77.39​

29.50​

1.042​

1.329​

2.372​

1.386​

1.879​

BC Lara

299​

10405​

40.48​

79.51​

19​

78.91​

29.67​

1.008​

1.364​

2.372​

1.375​

1.873​

DR Martyn

208​

5346​

40.8​

77.73​

5​

78.64​

29.63​

0.988​

1.377​

2.365​

1.361​

1.863​

G Gambhir

147​

5238​

39.68​

85.25​

11​

82.94​

30.06​

1.028​

1.320​

2.348​

1.357​

1.852​

Javed Miandad

233​

7381​

41.7​

67.01​

8​

73.34​

28.64​

0.914​

1.456​

2.370​

1.330​

1.850​

MJ Guptill

198​

7346​

41.73​

87.29​

18​

86.80​

31.16​

1.006​

1.339​

2.345​

1.347​

1.846​

EJG Morgan

248​

7701​

39.29​

91.16​

14​

85.84​

30.81​

1.062​

1.275​

2.337​

1.354​

1.846​

JH Kallis

328​

11579​

44.36​

72.89​

17​

81.82​

30.06​

0.891​

1.476​

2.367​

1.315​

1.841​

TM Dilshan

330​

10290​

39.27​

86.23​

22​

83.16​

30.31​

1.037​

1.295​

2.332​

1.343​

1.838​

DS Lehmann

117​

3078​

38.96​

81.34​

4​

79.72​

29.87​

1.020​

1.304​

2.325​

1.331​

1.828​

ME Waugh

244​

8500​

39.35​

76.9​

18​

77.23​

29.58​

0.996​

1.330​

2.326​

1.325​

1.825​

RR Sarwan

181​

5804​

42.67​

75.74​

5​

82.28​

30.11​

0.921​

1.417​

2.338​

1.305​

1.821​

KC Sangakkara

404​

14234​

41.98​

78.86​

25​

83.23​

30.38​

0.947​

1.382​

2.329​

1.309​

1.819​

ME Trescothick

123​

4335​

37.37​

85.21​

12​

80.42​

29.91​

1.060​

1.250​

2.309​

1.324​

1.816​

MD Crowe

143​

4704​

38.55​

72.63​

4​

73.73​

28.95​

0.985​

1.332​

2.317​

1.312​

1.814​

WJ Cronje

188​

5565​

38.64​

76.47​

2​

76.87​

29.42​

0.995​

1.313​

2.308​

1.306​

1.807​

Mohammad Yousuf

288​

9720​

41.71​

75.1​

15​

81.36​

29.96​

0.923​

1.392​

2.315​

1.285​

1.800​

SC Ganguly

311​

11363​

41.02​

73.7​

22​

79.14​

29.71​

0.931​

1.381​

2.312​

1.286​

1.799​

G Kirsten

185​

6798​

40.95​

72.04​

13​

78.09​

29.57​

0.923​

1.385​

2.307​

1.278​

1.793​

MR Marsh

87​

2657​

36.9​

96.37​

3​

87.94​

31.23​

1.096​

1.182​

2.277​

1.295​

1.786​

Misbah-ul-Haq

162​

5122​

43.4​

73.75​

0​

83.89​

30.39​

0.879​

1.428​

2.307​

1.255​

1.781​

CH Gayle

301​

10480​

37.83​

87.19​

25​

83.97​

30.58​

1.038​

1.237​

2.275​

1.284​

1.780​

DL Haynes

238​

8648​

41.37​

63.09​

17​

72.83​

28.69​

0.866​

1.442​

2.308​

1.249​

1.779​

RG Twose

87​

2717​

38.81​

75.4​

1​

78.38​

29.65​

0.962​

1.309​

2.271​

1.259​

1.765​

A Ranatunga

269​

7456​

35.84​

77.9​

4​

75.50​

29.16​

1.032​

1.229​

2.261​

1.268​

1.765​

Inzamam-ul-Haq

378​

11739​

39.52​

74.24​

10​

79.04​

29.68​

0.939​

1.332​

2.271​

1.251​

1.761​

PA de Silva

308​

9284​

34.9​

81.13​

11​

76.72​

29.36​

1.057​

1.189​

2.246​

1.257​

1.751​

NV Knight

100​

3637​

40.41​

71.52​

5​

78.99​

29.69​

0.905​

1.361​

2.266​

1.232​

1.749​

SK Raina

226​

5615​

35.31​

93.5​

5​

85.56​

30.78​

1.093​

1.147​

2.240​

1.254​

1.747​

Yuvraj Singh

304​

8701​

36.55​

87.67​

14​

83.85​

30.57​

1.046​

1.196​

2.241​

1.250​

1.746​

S Chanderpaul

268​

8778​

41.6​

70.74​

11​

80.72​

29.87​

0.876​

1.393​

2.269​

1.220​

1.745​

AD Mathews

226​

5916​

40.24​

82.9​

3​

87.07​

31.00​

0.952​

1.298​

2.250​

1.236​

1.743​

HH Gibbs

248​

8094​

36.13​

83.26​

21​

80.95​

29.89​

1.029​

1.209​

2.237​

1.243​

1.740​

SC Williams

156​

4986​

38.06​

86.69​

8​

86.32​

30.84​

1.004​

1.234​

2.238​

1.239​

1.739​

PR Stirling

156​

5623​

38.25​

87.44​

14​

87.07​

31.00​

1.004​

1.234​

2.238​

1.239​

1.739​

ST Jayasuriya

445​

13430​

32.36​

91.2​

28​

79.83​

29.75​

1.142​

1.088​

2.230​

1.243​

1.736​

SE Marsh

73​

2773​

40.77​

81.41​

7​

86.78​

31.21​

0.938​

1.306​

2.244​

1.225​

1.735​

GC Smith

197​

6989​

37.98​

80.81​

10​

82.89​

30.08​

0.975​

1.262​

2.237​

1.231​

1.734​

JN Rhodes

245​

5935​

35.11​

80.9​

2​

77.70​

29.54​

1.041​

1.189​

2.230​

1.238​

1.734​

AJ Finch

146​

5406​

38.89​

87.73​

17​

87.96​

31.46​

0.997​

1.236​

2.233​

1.233​

1.733​

M Azharuddin

334​

9378​

36.92​

74.02​

7​

76.04​

29.33​

0.973​

1.259​

2.232​

1.225​

1.729​

HH Dippenaar

107​

3421​

42.23​

67.78​

4​

80.61​

29.81​

0.841​

1.416​

2.257​

1.191​

1.724​

GA Hick

120​

3846​

37.33​

74.08​

5​

76.96​

29.50​

0.963​

1.266​

2.228​

1.218​

1.723​

GJ Bailey

90​

3044​

40.58​

83.51​

3​

88.19​

31.63​

0.947​

1.283​

2.230​

1.215​

1.722​

KJ Coetzer

89​

3192​

38.92​

82.37​

5​

87.07​

31.00​

0.946​

1.256​

2.202​

1.188​

1.695​

CL Hooper

227​

5761​

35.34​

76.63​

7​

77.23​

29.52​

0.992​

1.197​

2.190​

1.188​

1.689​

JP Duminy

199​

5117​

36.81​

84.55​

4​

85.64​

30.91​

0.987​

1.191​

2.178​

1.176​

1.677​

Imran Khan

175​

3709​

33.41​

72.65​

1​

72.45​

28.49​

1.003​

1.173​

2.175​

1.176​

1.675​

Sikandar Raza

136​

4089​

37.51​

86.5​

7​

88.58​

31.37​

0.977​

1.196​

2.172​

1.168​

1.670​

A Flintoff

141​

3394​

32.01​

88.82​

3​

81.19​

29.86​

1.094​

1.072​

2.166​

1.173​

1.669​

A Jadeja

196​

5359​

37.47​

69.79​

6​

76.87​

29.42​

0.908​

1.273​

2.181​

1.156​

1.669​

R Dravid

344​

10889​

39.16​

71.23​

12​

81.16​

29.89​

0.878​

1.310​

2.188​

1.150​

1.669​

AJ Strauss

127​

4205​

35.63​

80.94​

6​

82.60​

29.93​

0.980​

1.190​

2.170​

1.166​

1.668​

Shakib Al Hasan

247​

7570​

37.29​

82.84​

9​

86.38​

30.81​

0.959​

1.210​

2.169​

1.161​

1.665​

NS Sidhu

136​

4413​

37.08​

69.72​

6​

76.02​

29.48​

0.917​

1.258​

2.175​

1.154​

1.664​

Ijaz Ahmed

250​

6564​

32.33​

80.3​

10​

76.12​

29.29​

1.055​

1.104​

2.159​

1.164​

1.662​

CS MacLeod

88​

3026​

38.3​

80.56​

10​

86.51​

31.01​

0.931​

1.235​

2.166​

1.150​

1.658​

Obviously a flawed logic

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

This thread is the classical exampme of how stats are misused to cast a picture that is the opposite of reality.

I guarantee this - A few months from now, at most a year, some fans will have conveniently forgotten or ignored Babar’s 2023 World Cup performance, and they will use these same comparative stats to ‘prove’ how he was superior to Kohli. Maybe even SRT.

Few will remember the reality - that Babar built a good bit of his average playing weak teams in non clutch matches, in a two ball ODI era.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Babar Azam is leading the charts instead of very less matches he played compared to other two.

 

[pakistani pride]

How can people compare Babar to Kohli, forget about Sachin. Kohli is miles ahead of Babar.

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

Comparison between Babar Azam, Sachin Tendulkar & Virat Kohli at the same point in their ODI careers

Touted as a challenger to the ‘Fab Four’, the 28-year-old Babar has made 1,454 runs in 21 ODIs at an average of 76.52 with six hundreds since the start of 2020. No other batter from a Full Member country has made more runs or hundreds in this period, and no one else with at least 200 ODI runs averages more. His current form is an extension of his consistency as he vies for a place among the legends – how close is he to the two greatest ODI batters from India?

*Babar turned 28 in October last year. This article takes into account Tendulkar’s and Kohli’s stats till they turned 29.

In terms of average, Babar is ahead. However, what is interesting is the number of games that Kohli, currently 34, and Tendulkar played before they turned 29 – more than double and triple that of Babar, respectively.

Pakistan’s calendar is not as packed as India’s, and the fact that Kohli juggled the demands of all three formats along with the IPL, maintained full fitness and averaged over 55 in ODIs is commendable. He also made 32 hundreds – getting to the landmark once every six innings. Babar has taken fewer innings for a century – he gets to three digits once every 5.4 innings.

Tendulkar, on the other hand, belonged to a different generation where run-scoring was arguably tougher and with average innings scores not as high as they are currently. Tendulkar, by virtue of debuting earlier, played nearly 300 ODIs by the age of 28, scoring a hundred every nine innings. Tendulkar also took his time to find his feet, with a promotion to opening bringing about a dramatic change in fortune. His first century came in his 79th game. From that point until his 29th birthday, his century per innings ratio is only slightly below Kohli’s.


Thus, by the age of 28 Babar surges ahead with regards to average and the number of innings taken for a hundred but a lighter schedule, which allows him more time to mend his body after tiring tours, is a factor that cannot be ignored either.

How Babar vs Sachin vs Kohli compare after the same number of years in ODIs
Tendulkar made his debut when he was 16 years old and gained huge experience in the next 12 years. Babar made his debut when he was 20 and Kohli when he was 19. When calculating the stats of the players till the age of 28, the important factor of additional years of experience on the circuit was not considered. So, we take into account the records after a certain number of years as well.

Babar has currently played close to eight years of ODI cricket, making his debut against Zimbabwe in May 2015. He averaged 38.33 in his first year before his average rose and he started getting noticed by the world. We have considered Kohli and Tendulkar’s records exactly eight years after their respective ODI debuts.

Once again, the difference in the number of games between the two India batters and Babar is evident. Tendulkar’s average was below 40 for nearly the first half of his career. Tendulkar made 12 hundreds in his first eight years – and added 37 more till he retired.

As far as Babar v Kohli is concerned, the former edges ahead as far as the average is concerned, scoring nearly 10 runs more in every game. Babar also manages a fifty-plus knock every 1.8 innings, as compared to Kohli, who took 2.8 innings for a knock of 50 or more.

In the first eight years of their careers, Babar averaged 79 at home in the 15 games that he played in Pakistan and 55.67 when touring (including neutral venues). Tendulkar averaged 45.47 at home in his first eight years, which fell to 34.61 away. Kohli, on the other hand, scored at 54.69 in India and maintained an average of 49.63 away.

In run chases, Babar’s average of 58.15 with seven hundreds in 50 innings is astounding, but Kohli takes the lead here, averaging 61.22 with 15 hundreds in the first eight years, in 91 innings. Tendulkar, on the other hand, averaged 39.01 in run chases till 18 August 1997, with five of his 12 hundreds coming in the second innings.

Babar has the highest aggregate after 93 innings in the history of ODI cricket. Michael Bevan has the highest batting average after 93 innings – 62.21 – and Babar is not far behind. No other batter has made more hundreds than Babar after 93 innings.

Kohli has the third-most number of centuries after 93 innings – 13 – with Hashim Amla in second place. Only five batters have made more than 4,000 runs and have an average of over 50 after 93 innings (Babar and Kohli are joined by Amla, Joe Root and Vivian Richards) and undoubtedly it is a reputed list to be a part of. The fact that Babar has managed to surpass the legends of the game speaks volumes about his potential.

Tendulkar found the going tough in his initial days as an ODI batter, but there are numerous other factors to consider when taking his feats into consideration.

Source Wisden

Well done admin great research that s why I always state the importance of context. Stats alone is never enough to go on.

Staggering amount of match difference.

It took YK a lifetime to play a 100 Tests because we played so few compared to others.

This will enlighten many a kohli fan boy with serious context on the table rather than he would of , could of , should of etc.

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

It's not 4. Rohit/Sanga

It's 4. Rohit
5. Sanga

Jayasuriya and saeed Anwar have to be in it.

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

After 111 ODIs...

View attachment 137903

Babar killing it.

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

Babar greater than virat is lime suggesting shami > Waqar.

Really what bowling records does shami hold?.

Babar has broken some of kohli s records.

Foolish comparison.

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

People are missing this point. Kohli has missed around 19 matches in the last 2 years. Rohit missed 25 matches. Gill alone missed 15 matches. Babar missed 0 matches including all the matches against Netherlands. So when he is suddenly up against teams with full strength even on a flat deck he is struggling to enforce so much so opponent ended up sharing the uncomfortable truth about them. In 2023 Rizwan > Babar let alone Kohli/Rohit et al. I think there is incessant obsession with comparing him with top players and building a brand. This is like building a brand for Amla. Not even gifted ABDv had this kind of hype.

Really pakistan play netherlands and other associate nations on a regular basis?.

Babar s 19 ODI hundreds:

3 vs Aus , 2 vs Eng, 5 vs Win, 2 vs NZ, 1 vs S A, 3 vs S l, 2 vs Zim, 1 vs Nep.

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

25 of Kohli s odi hundreds have come against the weaker attacks of Ban, Zim, SL and the windies.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

25 of Kohli s odi hundreds have come against the weaker attacks of Ban, Zim, SL and the windies.

Similar argument could be made for Babar where 11 of his ODI hundreds out of 19 have come against Sl, WI, Nepal and Zimbabwe.

You cant cherry pick this.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Comparison between Babar Azam, Sachin Tendulkar & Virat Kohli at the same point in their ODI careers

Touted as a challenger to the ‘Fab Four’, the 28-year-old Babar has made 1,454 runs in 21 ODIs at an average of 76.52 with six hundreds since the start of 2020. No other batter from a Full Member country has made more runs or hundreds in this period, and no one else with at least 200 ODI runs averages more. His current form is an extension of his consistency as he vies for a place among the legends – how close is he to the two greatest ODI batters from India?

*Babar turned 28 in October last year. This article takes into account Tendulkar’s and Kohli’s stats till they turned 29.

In terms of average, Babar is ahead. However, what is interesting is the number of games that Kohli, currently 34, and Tendulkar played before they turned 29 – more than double and triple that of Babar, respectively.

Pakistan’s calendar is not as packed as India’s, and the fact that Kohli juggled the demands of all three formats along with the IPL, maintained full fitness and averaged over 55 in ODIs is commendable. He also made 32 hundreds – getting to the landmark once every six innings. Babar has taken fewer innings for a century – he gets to three digits once every 5.4 innings.

Tendulkar, on the other hand, belonged to a different generation where run-scoring was arguably tougher and with average innings scores not as high as they are currently. Tendulkar, by virtue of debuting earlier, played nearly 300 ODIs by the age of 28, scoring a hundred every nine innings. Tendulkar also took his time to find his feet, with a promotion to opening bringing about a dramatic change in fortune. His first century came in his 79th game. From that point until his 29th birthday, his century per innings ratio is only slightly below Kohli’s.


Thus, by the age of 28 Babar surges ahead with regards to average and the number of innings taken for a hundred but a lighter schedule, which allows him more time to mend his body after tiring tours, is a factor that cannot be ignored either.

How Babar vs Sachin vs Kohli compare after the same number of years in ODIs
Tendulkar made his debut when he was 16 years old and gained huge experience in the next 12 years. Babar made his debut when he was 20 and Kohli when he was 19. When calculating the stats of the players till the age of 28, the important factor of additional years of experience on the circuit was not considered. So, we take into account the records after a certain number of years as well.

Babar has currently played close to eight years of ODI cricket, making his debut against Zimbabwe in May 2015. He averaged 38.33 in his first year before his average rose and he started getting noticed by the world. We have considered Kohli and Tendulkar’s records exactly eight years after their respective ODI debuts.

Once again, the difference in the number of games between the two India batters and Babar is evident. Tendulkar’s average was below 40 for nearly the first half of his career. Tendulkar made 12 hundreds in his first eight years – and added 37 more till he retired.

As far as Babar v Kohli is concerned, the former edges ahead as far as the average is concerned, scoring nearly 10 runs more in every game. Babar also manages a fifty-plus knock every 1.8 innings, as compared to Kohli, who took 2.8 innings for a knock of 50 or more.

In the first eight years of their careers, Babar averaged 79 at home in the 15 games that he played in Pakistan and 55.67 when touring (including neutral venues). Tendulkar averaged 45.47 at home in his first eight years, which fell to 34.61 away. Kohli, on the other hand, scored at 54.69 in India and maintained an average of 49.63 away.

In run chases, Babar’s average of 58.15 with seven hundreds in 50 innings is astounding, but Kohli takes the lead here, averaging 61.22 with 15 hundreds in the first eight years, in 91 innings. Tendulkar, on the other hand, averaged 39.01 in run chases till 18 August 1997, with five of his 12 hundreds coming in the second innings.

Babar has the highest aggregate after 93 innings in the history of ODI cricket. Michael Bevan has the highest batting average after 93 innings – 62.21 – and Babar is not far behind. No other batter has made more hundreds than Babar after 93 innings.

Kohli has the third-most number of centuries after 93 innings – 13 – with Hashim Amla in second place. Only five batters have made more than 4,000 runs and have an average of over 50 after 93 innings (Babar and Kohli are joined by Amla, Joe Root and Vivian Richards) and undoubtedly it is a reputed list to be a part of. The fact that Babar has managed to surpass the legends of the game speaks volumes about his potential.

Tendulkar found the going tough in his initial days as an ODI batter, but there are numerous other factors to consider when taking his feats into consideration.

Source Wisden

Whenever such comparisons are made, there is always something left to justify anybody's superiority. Babar's record is much better than Virat and Sachin's here but at the same time, the conditions are very different. Sachin played in an era of 90s and 2000s where bowling was more dominant than today's. Babar has not played as many games as Virat and Sachin have played. Comparing Babar with Sachin is not fair to both. Babar has a better record when you see the stats but Sachin has been termed as a GOD od cricket for many people

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

Similar argument could be made for Babar where 11 of his ODI hundreds out of 19 have come against Sl, WI, Nepal and Zimbabwe.

You cant cherry pick this.

Thats my point You kohli fan boys have been constantly harping on about kohli is this and that and Babar has faced weak attacks.

Now call a spade a spade that so has kohli.

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

Babar's career isn't a fluke. He was an okay bat in 2016 and bashed minnows, he then improved in 2017 developing a singles game and that odd six hitting ability.

He then peaked in 2019 becoming a pretty solid no 3.

He however since then regressed. Zero improvement since 2019 because he never escaped that comfort zone. Kohli in 2012 was mocked for being clueless against early inswing and outswing and it seemed that at one point people wanted to move kohli to no 4, because they were worried thay if the openers depart early, then kohli struggles.

What did kohli do before CT 2013? He went to the nets and played like 500 balls of killer inswing and outswing. It's why that killer inswing bothers people like rohit sharma but never bothers kohli anymore.

Let's identify babar's weakeness in 2016= He couldn't take singles properly.

By 2019: Hes good at taking singles.

Let's analyse his weakness in 2019= He can't play modern cricket aka keeping up rr, nor is he a good chaser, and he's horrible against spin.

What does Babar do in these 4 years? He's still horrible against spin and can't attack the bowling. If anything he promotes himself to opening in t20 because coming in at no 3 in t20 means that if the openers get of to a good start, Babar would be forced to attack and quickly play attacking cricket, so he sticks in his comfort zone.

Look at rohit sharma, people mocked him for being a clown against swing and just a spineless lower order bat and not aggressive at all. You know what rohit does?

Goes to opening where it swings the most and attack PP 1 like theirs no tmr, 46 sixes in the past 1000 balls played with India and 38 are from rohit whereas Pakistan has hit only 2 . That's what you call getting out of your comfort zone and improving. Not shoving yourself from opening to no 3, because you don't want to prove your critics who claim you can't attack the bowling wrong .

kohli struggled against Amir in CT17 with swing.

what are you talking about.

He still has that weakness outside off stump but credit to him for trying to improve.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Kohli may have issues against left arm spin (off late) and inswing from left arm bowlers

But Babar can't play any spin with confidence. Struggles against part time off spinners .

And like most Pakistani batters struggles against bounce.

He also has less of a power game than Kohli who is himself not an elite power hitter

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Thats my point You kohli fan boys have been constantly harping on about kohli is this and that and Babar has faced weak attacks.

Now call a spade a spade that so has kohli.

I think Kohli is greater than Babar and its not because of his 100s.

If you think Babar is better than Kohli you have to prove it with context.

Not just 100s and higher averages.

 

[Cover Drive Six]

25 of Kohli s odi hundreds have come against the weaker attacks of Ban, Zim, SL and the windies.

You can't overlook Sri Lanka in that list. Sri Lanka was a top team when Kohli thrashed them left and right; they were consistently ranked high in the ICC rankings and reached the finals of many tournaments.
Kohli scored centuries against peak Malinga, not against teams like Nepal or Zimbabwe.

 

[Buffet]

You can't overlook Sri Lanka in that list. Sri Lanka was a top team when Kohli thrashed them left and right; they were consistently ranked high in the ICC rankings and reached the finals of many tournaments.
Kohli scored centuries against peak Malinga, not against teams like Nepal or Zimbabwe.

SL had a higher W/L ratio than Pakistan and NZ from 2008-2017. TOP 5 team in that period.

 

[jnaveen1980]

There are 100s of random comparison threads on PP. So many that you can dedicate a board for that.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

I think Kohli is greater than Babar and its not because of his 100s.

If you think Babar is better than Kohli you have to prove it with context.

Not just 100s and higher averages.

No one can deny that overall Kohli is far better than Babar. But at this point in time if you compare Babar is ahead of both Sachin and Virat.

 

[charlie007]

No one can deny that overall Kohli is far better than Babar. But at this point in time if you compare Babar is ahead of both Sachin and Virat.

Not Babar as a player, Babar’s stats. Stats don’t make a player better. There’s more to it.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Not Babar as a player, Babar’s stats. Stats don’t make a player better. There’s more to it.

Yep, you are right here. Stats show that he is already surpassing many legends of the game but overall when we see the big game impact, then Babar is bit behind than both of them.

 

[charlie007]

Yep, you are right here. Stats show that he is already surpassing many legends of the game but overall when we see the big game impact, then Babar is bit behind than both of them.

I hope he can improve in his career. Great players throughout history have focused on continuously improving, and that’s what makes them great.
And great players transcend countries, they are appreciated across borders globally. Tendulkar, Wasim. Imran, Border, Lara, Miandad, Kapil, McGrath, Warne, Kohli, Murali etc. are known as greats of the game around the world. And you always want to witness such players showcasing their craft.
Babar is still on his journey, let’s see where he finishes.

 

[BouncerGuy]

I hope he can improve in his career.

Hope so. He is one of the greatest players for Pakistan and has already crossed many legends of Pakistan with his batting skills but he really needs to prove his worth where it matters the most.

 

[Mesozoic]

25 of Kohli s odi hundreds have come against the weaker attacks of Ban, Zim, SL and the windies.

Majority of Kohli's hundreds against Sri Lanka came when they had a bowling attack of Malinga, Murali, Kulasekara, Mendis, Herath etc. Lol at "weaker attack"...that's the bowling attack that took SL to 4 ICC World finals in 5 years.

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

I think Kohli is greater than Babar and its not because of his 100s.

If you think Babar is better than Kohli you have to prove it with context.

Not just 100s and higher averages.

What I have always said stats alongside context is the key.

At Babar current age and kohli s age at the same stage there is a staggering difference in terms of number of matches played between the two.

I have never seen a kohli fan say he s scored easy runs and has 25 hundreds against weak attacks like they keep saying about Babar and his runs.

Majority of Kohli's hundreds against Sri Lanka came when they had a bowling attack of Malinga, Murali, Kulasekara, Mendis, Herath etc. Lol at "weaker attack"...that's the bowling attack that took SL to 4 ICC World finals in 5 years.

Sorry to burst your bubble but Murali did not play any of the matches that kohli scored those 10 centuries.

Herath was a test specialist, mendis burst on the scene taking wickets against india and then came and went when teams found him out.

The attacks kohli faced for his 10 centuries consisted of the following players : ranjiv, mahroof , prassana, lakmal, udana, pereera, pradeep, Eranga, Gamage, Pushpakamara, welllalage, Rajitha , Kumara etc.

why don't you add Vaas, jayasuriya alongside murali in there aswell. Add more Gloss

Absolutely Pathetic.

Kohli faced weak attacks just admit it.

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

You can't overlook Sri Lanka in that list. Sri Lanka was a top team when Kohli thrashed them left and right; they were consistently ranked high in the ICC rankings and reached the finals of many tournaments.
Kohli scored centuries against peak Malinga, not against teams like Nepal or Zimbabwe.

I have listed the bowlers Kohli faced against SL during his 10 centuries on a another post with mesezoi or someone.

Check it out.

Your mixing up pre retirement of the likes of sanga, mahela, malinga etc with the rebuilding phase of sri lankan cricket.

Sri lanka were a fantastic side but kohli didnt score his 10 against them.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

What I have always said stats alongside context is the key.

At Babar current age and kohli s age at the same stage there is a staggering difference in terms of number of matches played between the two.

I have never seen a kohli fan say he s scored easy runs and has 25 hundreds against weak attacks like they keep saying about Babar and his runs.

Sorry to burst your bubble but Murali did not play any of the matches that kohli scored those 10 centuries.

Herath was a test specialist, mendis burst on the scene taking wickets against india and then came and went when teams found him out.

The attacks kohli faced for his 10 centuries consisted of the following players : ranjiv, mahroof , prassana, lakmal, udana, pereera, pradeep, Eranga, Gamage, Pushpakamara, welllalage, Rajitha , Kumara etc.

why don't you add Vaas, jayasuriya alongside murali in there aswell. Add more Gloss

Absolutely Pathetic.

Kohli faced weak attacks just admit it.

Babars problems is not his runs.

He scores plenty of those.

Its about his impact.

Every single person who knows cricket knows that if there is 100 to chase off 60 balls, you dont want Babar at the crease.

He just doesnt have that ability.

Kohli can.

And please dont confuse the swansong of Kohli with peak of Babar.

Kohli is at fag end of his career and he dominated the ODI World Cup and Babar at his prime still couldnt impact this one.

There is hope for Babar but I know my cricket and I know Babar is a Jayawardene type of batsmen.

Will score plenty of runs but wont affect result of matches until someone else plays a blinder.

 

[Cover Drive Six]

I have listed the bowlers Kohli faced against SL during his 10 centuries on a another post with mesezoi or someone.

Check it out.

Your mixing up pre retirement of the likes of sanga, mahela, malinga etc with the rebuilding phase of sri lankan cricket.

Sri lanka were a fantastic side but kohli didnt score his 10 against them.

You have conveniently ignored Malinga in the list. Kohli destroyed peak Malinga during his early days, which is something Babar can only dream of. Kohli scored 5 centuries against Malinga in his first few outings. The Hobart innings of 133* by 23-year-old Kohli is still better than Babar's entire career. Even at his peak Babar never played such an innings.

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

Babars problems is not his runs.

He scores plenty of those.

Its about his impact.

Every single person who knows cricket knows that if there is 100 to chase off 60 balls, you dont want Babar at the crease.

He just doesnt have that ability.

Kohli can.

And please dont confuse the swansong of Kohli with peak of Babar.

Kohli is at fag end of his career and he dominated the ODI World Cup and Babar at his prime still couldnt impact this one.

There is hope for Babar but I know my cricket and I know Babar is a Jayawardene type of batsmen.

Will score plenty of runs but wont affect result of matches until someone else plays a blinder.

Babar problem is other than Riz and Fakhar he knows numbers 5 , 6 , 7 and 8 don't deliver consistently which doesnt allow him the freedom to express himself the way he likes so ends up being a bit more conservative.

The likes of Aus, Eng, WI, NZ have that luxury.

Moving to kohli he s played three home world cups and conditions he s grown up in and took advantage big deal.

I wasn't in favour of going to this WC anyway so couldn't care less.

Most batters peak at 32 so Babar has a few years to go but it varies.

Babar has those innings 100 of 60 chases in his locker but you still need support from the other end. That's where the lower middle order are not responsible and have that game awareness to assess the situation and bat accordingly.

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

Kohli may have issues against left arm spin (off late) and inswing from left arm bowlers

But Babar can't play any spin with confidence. Struggles against part time off spinners .

And like most Pakistani batters struggles against bounce.

He also has less of a power game than Kohli who is himself not an elite power hitter

kohli has been dismissed 10 times by Moeen Ali and 8 times by swann both off spinners.

Adil rashid has dismissed him 9 times alongside the left arm spinners and left arm pace you've mentioned.

He also has a weakness outside off stump.

 

[Mesozoic]

You have conveniently ignored Malinga in the list. Kohli destroyed peak Malinga during his early days, which is something Babar can only dream of. Kohli scored 5 centuries against Malinga in his first few outings. The Hobart innings of 133* by 23-year-old Kohli is still better than Babar's entire career. Even at his peak Babar never played such an innings.

Just have a giggle and move on would be my advice lol.

Apart from that Hobart knock, he also dominated Sri Lanka in their home in 2012 against pretty much the same attack which took them to the World Cup final a year ago. Anyone who thinks Kohli's hundreds against Sri Lanka pre 2015 are against lower quality attacks shouldn't be taken seriously.

 

[Mesozoic]

A 23 year old Kohli scored 133 (84) in Hobart and then that maverick 183 against Pakistan in the span of a month.

And those two knocks are enough to bury the entire ODI career of the 29 year old Babar Azam, whose best ODI knock came in a game where Haris Sohail was the actual match winner.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Kohli is far better. Babar wont reach the same level of dominance. They way Kohli has risen from the ashes again is just extraordinary

Lets see if Babar can eclipse Tendulkar but that is only a comparison we can make at the end of Babars career.

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

You have conveniently ignored Malinga in the list. Kohli destroyed peak Malinga during his early days, which is something Babar can only dream of. Kohli scored 5 centuries against Malinga in his first few outings. The Hobart innings of 133* by 23-year-old Kohli is still better than Babar's entire career. Even at his peak Babar never played such an innings.

One Malinga doesn't change the fact it was a weak attack and he was injured and and in and out of the SL side for large periods.

Really so Babar hundred in Sydney against the likes of Starc, Hazelwood, Cummings, Zampa, etc is not as good as kohlis 133 v kulasakera, malinga, herath, perera, mahroof.

 

[Mesozoic]

Really so Babar hundred in Sydney

Babar has zero hundreds in Sydney...in any format.

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

Babar's career isn't a fluke. He was an okay bat in 2016 and bashed minnows, he then improved in 2017 developing a singles game and that odd six hitting ability.

He then peaked in 2019 becoming a pretty solid no 3.

He however since then regressed. Zero improvement since 2019 because he never escaped that comfort zone. Kohli in 2012 was mocked for being clueless against early inswing and outswing and it seemed that at one point people wanted to move kohli to no 4, because they were worried thay if the openers depart early, then kohli struggles.

What did kohli do before CT 2013? He went to the nets and played like 500 balls of killer inswing and outswing. It's why that killer inswing bothers people like rohit sharma but never bothers kohli anymore.

Let's identify babar's weakeness in 2016= He couldn't take singles properly.

By 2019: Hes good at taking singles.

Let's analyse his weakness in 2019= He can't play modern cricket aka keeping up rr, nor is he a good chaser, and he's horrible against spin.

What does Babar do in these 4 years? He's still horrible against spin and can't attack the bowling. If anything he promotes himself to opening in t20 because coming in at no 3 in t20 means that if the openers get of to a good start, Babar would be forced to attack and quickly play attacking cricket, so he sticks in his comfort zone.

Look at rohit sharma, people mocked him for being a clown against swing and just a spineless lower order bat and not aggressive at all. You know what rohit does?

Goes to opening where it swings the most and attack PP 1 like theirs no tmr, 46 sixes in the past 1000 balls played with India and 38 are from rohit whereas Pakistan has hit only 2 . That's what you call getting out of your comfort zone and improving. Not shoving yourself from opening to no 3, because you don't want to prove your critics who claim you can't attack the bowling wrong .

Rohit is still weak against swing what are you waffling on about.

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

Babar has zero hundreds in Sydney...in any format.

Adelaide. still better than kohlis 133

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

Adelaide. still better than kohlis 133

 

[Cover Drive Six]

One Malinga doesn't change the fact it was a weak attack and he was injured and and in and out of the SL side for large periods.

Really so Babar hundred in Sydney against the likes of Starc, Hazelwood, Cummings, Zampa, etc is not as good as kohlis 133 v kulasakera, malinga, herath, perera, mahroof.

As I mentioned earlier, the Hobart innings of 133* by 23-year-old Kohli is still better than Babar's entire career. I am not even referring to Kohli's 183 against Pakistan at the same age of 23. Peak Babar has yet to play these kinds of memorable clutch knocks in his career.
Kohli dominated that one Malinga repeatedly and other good bowlers. Lankans were consistently one of the top-ranked team in the ICC rankings and reached finals in many tournaments. My main point is to help you understand that Kohli's centuries against Sri Lanka came against a decent bowling attack; you can't compare them to teams like Zimbabwe or the West Indies. I'm not sure why you are bringing Australia into this discussion; Kohli has scored more centuries than Babar in Australia.

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

As I mentioned earlier, the Hobart innings of 133* by 23-year-old Kohli is still better than Babar's entire career. I am not even referring to Kohli's 183 against Pakistan at the same age of 23. Peak Babar has yet to play these kinds of memorable clutch knocks in his career.
Kohli dominated that one Malinga repeatedly and other good bowlers. Lankans were consistently one of the top-ranked team in the ICC rankings and reached finals in many tournaments. My main point is to help you understand that Kohli's centuries against Sri Lanka came against a decent bowling attack; you can't compare them to teams like Zimbabwe or the West Indies. I'm not sure why you are bringing Australia into this discussion; Kohli has scored more centuries than Babar in Australia.

If you think the sri Lankan attack of kulasakera, malinga, herath, perera, mahroof is better than Starc, Hazelwood, Cummings, Zampa there s nothing more to say.

Kohli has played more matches in Austraia than Babar.
You have no class.

End off.

 

[AMSS]

Lets see if Babar can eclipse Tendulkar but that is only a comparison we can make at the end of Babars career.

Good one brother. At Babar's age, Sachin had only played 93 tests, averaged 59, and had only 29 test hundreds with 15 away and 10 in SENA.

Yes, let's see if Babar can eclipse Tendulkar.

 

[Cover Drive Six]

Adelaide. still better than kohlis 133

You have some serious issues in understanding the cricket.

The Adelaide innings you're referring where Warner scored 179 and Head scored 128 in the same match. Babar scored 100 runs off 109 balls in a losing cause, that was a typical Babar's impact less innings. Comparing that innings with Kohli's masterclass chase in Hobart. Chase down the 321 runs target in just 36.4 overs.

 

[Mesozoic]

Adelaide. still better than kohlis 133

Yes. 133 off 84 while successfully chasing 330 in 40 overs is inferior to 100 off 110 in a losing chase of 370.

 

[Cover Drive Six]

If you think the sri Lankan attack of kulasakera, malinga, herath, perera, mahroof is better than Starc, Hazelwood, Cummings, Zampa there s nothing more to say.

Kohli has played more matches in Austraia than Babar.
You have no class.

End off.

I didn't say that; you're only assuming things and drawing comparisons with the Australian team. All I was saying is Kohli's centuries against Sri Lanka came against peak Malinga and a decent bowling attack; you can't compare them to teams like Zimbabwe or the West Indies.

Babar is yet to play impactful innings in his career like Hobart (133*) and the Asia Cup match against Pakistan (183).
Peak Babar doesn't have a single impactful innings in his career.

End off.

 

[Mesozoic]

You have some serious issues in understanding the cricket.

The Adelaide innings you're referring where Warner scored 179 and Head scored 128 in the same match. Babar scored 100 runs off 109 balls in a losing cause, that was a typical Babar's impact less innings. Comparing that innings with Kohli's masterclass chase in Hobart. Chase down the 321 runs target in just 36.4 overs.

Even Babar himself will be too embarassed to go and check the highlights of that knock lol. He waddled around with a SR of 75 throughout that innings and made it up a bit at the end when the game was already out of reach.

But his fanboys think that's better than Kohli's Hobart knock.

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

You have some serious issues in understanding the cricket.

The Adelaide innings you're referring where Warner scored 179 and Head scored 128 in the same match. Babar scored 100 runs off 109 balls in a losing cause, that was a typical Babar's impact less innings. Comparing that innings with Kohli's masterclass chase in Hobart. Chase down the 321 runs target in just 36.4 overs.

Your issues revolve around the fact you think the sun shines out of kohli s rear end.

The point that your blue tinted glasses don't see is the difference of the Quality of attacks faced.

why are you shifting the goal posts to the result where other than Sharjeel no one stood with Babar.

I see your cunning ploy of never mentioning Sri lanka as the opposition in Hobart.

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

Even Babar himself will be too embarassed to go and check the highlights of that knock lol. He waddled around with a SR of 75 throughout that innings and made it up a bit at the end when the game was already out of reach.

But his fanboys think that's better than Kohli's Hobart knock.

Says the disingenuous kohli fan boy who added murali in the attack.

 

[Mesozoic]

Says the disingenuous kohli fan boy who added murali in the attack.

Kid, give up. The fact that you actually think Babar's raddi match losing knock at Adelaide is better than Kohli's Hobart knock will induce cringe and vomit for even the most ardent India haters on this site.

And no...I never "included" Murali in any attack. Just stated the bare fact that Sri Lankan bowling attack wasn't really "weaker" as you suggested in your earlier posts. Dont blame me if you don't have the ability to grasp a simple implication.

 

[Mesozoic]

I see your cunning ploy of never mentioning Sri lanka as the opposition in Hobart.

Munnay, Sri Lanka was a world cup finalist an year before that game and was still a top ODI side that were 10 or so runs away from winning the CB Tri series finals against Australia.

You must have started watching cricket since 2017 to talk about that SL team as if they were Zimbabwe or Nepal.

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

Kid, give up. The fact that you actually think Babar's raddi match losing knock at Adelaide is better than Kohli's Hobart knock will induce cringe and vomit for even the most ardent India haters on this site.

And no...I never "included" Murali in any attack. Just stated the bare fact that Sri Lankan bowling attack wasn't really "weaker" as you suggested in your earlier posts. Dont blame me if you don't have the ability to grasp a simple implication.

You cant grasp that the sri lankan attack kohli scored his tons against were weak.

it aint a discussion kid. its a fact.

Thats what you cant grasp.

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

Munnay, Sri Lanka was a world cup finalist an year before that game and was still a top ODI side that were 10 or so runs away from winning the CB Tri series finals against Australia.

You must have started watching cricket since 2017 to talk about that SL team as if they were Zimbabwe or Nepal.

Listen son the Sri lanka 2011 final team was not the players kohli faced in Hobart for his Bradman knock.

Stop trying your digging a whole for yourself.

You must of started watching cricket when the indian side found a few bowlers over 130 ks

Lasith Malinga	7.4	0	96	1	12.52	11	15	2	2	0
Nuwan Kulasekara	8	0	71	0	8.87	17	11	0	1	0
Farveez Maharoof	3	0	21	1	7.00	8	3	0	0	0
Thisara Perera	7	0	59	0	8.42	9	3	1	1	0
Angelo Mathews	7	0	44	0	6.28	13	1	1	0	0
Rangana Herath	4	0	20	0	5.00

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

Listen son the Sri lanka 2011 final team was not the players kohli faced in Hobart for his Bradman knock.

Stop trying your digging a whole for yourself.

You must of started watching cricket when the indian side found a few bowlers over 130 ks

Lasith Malinga	7.4	0	96	1	12.52	11	15	2	2	0
Nuwan Kulasekara	8	0	71	0	8.87	17	11	0	1	0
Farveez Maharoof	3	0	21	1	7.00	8	3	0	0	0
Thisara Perera	7	0	59	0	8.42	9	3	1	1	0
Angelo Mathews	7	0	44	0	6.28	13	1	1	0	0
Rangana Herath	4	0	20	0	5.00

Dilshan banged 160 in the same game

 

[Nikhil_cric]

kohli has been dismissed 10 times by Moeen Ali and 8 times by swann both off spinners.

Adil rashid has dismissed him 9 times alongside the left arm spinners and left arm pace you've mentioned.

He also has a weakness outside off stump.

I'm talking about ODIs specifically. There's no comparison in Tests. Babar has a lot to do before being compared to Virat.

 

[Cover Drive Six]

Your issues revolve around the fact you think the sun shines out of kohli s rear end.

The point that your blue tinted glasses don't see is the difference of the Quality of attacks faced.

why are you shifting the goal posts to the result where other than Sharjeel no one stood with Babar.

I see your cunning ploy of never mentioning Sri lanka as the opposition in Hobart.

Many batsmen have had such kind of impactless innings against quality attacks. What is your point? Do you think Kohli didn't have such kind of innings against quality bowling lineups? VVS Laxman played more impactful innings against Australia in ODIs than Babar's Adelaide innings.

 

[Human786]

not read the opening post & comments but if you have seen the 3 bat , you surely cannot place Babar in any bracket which has SRT & Kohli . my 2 cricketing cents or sense

 

[Mesozoic]

Listen son the Sri lanka 2011 final team was not the players kohli faced in Hobart for his Bradman knock

3/4 specialist bowlers played in the 2011 final. Murali retired and got replaced by Herath. Stop embarassing yourselves!

 

[Mesozoic]

You cant grasp that the sri lankan attack kohli scored his tons against were weak.

it aint a discussion kid. its a fact

It won't become a fact just because a delusional poster on a random internet forum thinks so. Sri Lankan white ball sides were definitely not "weak" pre 2015. Anyone who thinks so knows nothing about cricket or is just a kid who started watching in 2018.

 

[Human786]

not read the opening post & comments but if you have seen the 3 bat , you surely cannot place Babar in any bracket which has SRT & Kohli . my 2 cricketing cents or sense

hey @Mamoon & @Bouncer- what say ?

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

It won't become a fact just because a delusional poster on a random internet forum thinks so. Sri Lankan white ball sides were definitely not "weak" pre 2015. Anyone who thinks so knows nothing about cricket or is just a kid who started watching in 2018.

The scorecard is testament. Its not my opinion you .

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

3/4 specialist bowlers played in the 2011 final. Murali retired and got replaced by Herath. Stop embarassing yourselves!

 

[Human786]

why are you 2 frighting ?

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

Many batsmen have had such kind of impactless innings against quality attacks. What is your point? Do you think Kohli didn't have such kind of innings against quality bowling lineups? VVS Laxman played more impactful innings against Australia in ODIs than Babar's Adelaide innings.

My point is Babar Adelaide knock vs Aus is better than kohli s hobart knock vs SL because of the quality of the attack he faced and that 25 of kohli s tons were against soft weak attacks.

Where has the Taxman come from suddenly.

Your really scraping the barrel jumping from one thing to the next.

Relax and calm yourself.

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

why are you 2 frighting ?

What do you mean bro?.

I just stated a few facts with evidence regarding disillusioned kohli fan boys always bleating on about Babar scoring soft runs by proving their boy has 25 tons doing the same.

Definitely nothing personal.

 

[Human786]

What do you mean bro?.

I just stated a few facts with evidence regarding disillusioned kohli fan boys always bleating on about Babar scoring soft runs by proving their boy has 25 tons doing the same.

Definitely nothing personal.

come on , if you watched cricket as much as me suspects by your post count , let it go biradar , Babar is no Kohli . Mein nahi discuss karoonga , I invite without reading the thread @BouncerGuy & @Mamoon & @James to stand up as defense on my cricketing sense behalf - par lado mut , waise hi sports ke pov ke liye tabiyat or mizaz kharab mut karo

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

come on , if you watched cricket as much as me suspects by your post count , let it go biradar , Babar is no Kohli . Mein nahi discuss karoonga , I invite without reading the thread @BouncerGuy & @Mamoon & @James to stand up as defense on my cricketing sense behalf - par lado mut , waise hi sports ke pov ke liye tabiyat or mizaz kharab mut karo

Your making zero sense.

Carry on

 

[Human786]

Your making zero sense.

Carry on

each 2 their own - just have more tolerance for differing pov - nothing to gain by fighting on forum.

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

each 2 their own - just have more tolerance for differing pov -nothing to gain by fighting on forum.

A piece of advice. look up the definition of fighting.

Your going off on a tangent.

 

[pakistani pride]

Really pakistan play netherlands and other associate nations on a regular basis?.

Babar s 19 ODI hundreds:

3 vs Aus , 2 vs Eng, 5 vs Win, 2 vs NZ, 1 vs S A, 3 vs S l, 2 vs Zim, 1 vs Nep.

And vs top teams how many resulted in wins?

 

[Dr_Bassim]

My point is Babar Adelaide knock vs Aus is better than kohli s hobart knock vs SL because of the quality of the attack he faced and that 25 of kohli s tons were against soft weak attacks.

Where has the Taxman come from suddenly.

Your really scraping the barrel jumping from one thing to the next.

Relax and calm yourself.

None of Babars knocks are better than Kohli knocks.

Saying the same things over and over again wont make it true.

Kohli is an ATG batsmen in the league of Sachin, Richards, Ponting, Lara.

Babar is a tier 2 batsmen and not an ATG.

The comparison is as apt as between a Honda and a BMW.

And if all you have ever driven is the Honda, and work for Honda company I can see why you would market the Honda and its features and downplay the BMW.

But that doesnt make the Honda better.

Good luck trying to convince the world, though.