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Joe Root vs Sachin Tendulkar comparison

mominsaigol said:
How is jaiswal new? He's been an opener for a while now

Jaiswal, Pant, Gill, Siraj, Bumrah, Jadeja is a transitioning team hahahahaha.

India makes 2 changes and some incompetent selections via pradish and kamboj and suddenly its transitioning 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.

I dont give a cahoots, how was root medicore?

His 50 won the 1st game, his 103 caused the lead to be nullified and his 22 runs made a huge difference considering the margin india lost in the 3rd game.

How is he at fault for england losing after he scored 150 and secured a record run chase before an epic botch?

You're the one not making sense. I am not name calling anyone. When someone acts stupid, I call them out.

That is not name calling but me speaking the truth.

I always speak the truth and never lie and newsflash the truth hurts.
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Jaiswal’s first series in England, I didn’t say Root was mediocre , I said he was average because he was playing at home.
You might not lie but you are stating opinions, just like I’m ,calling that a lie shows comprehension issues.

If home players start counting then Ashwin and Jaddu would be considered GOAT, they aren’t, Root was supposed to be better at home than Indian batsmen, he wasn’t only slightly better than Jadeja in batting.
 
JaDed said:
Jaiswal’s first series in England, I didn’t say Root was mediocre , I said he was average because he was playing at home.
You might not lie but you are stating opinions, just like I’m ,calling that a lie shows comprehension issues.

If home players start counting then Ashwin and Jaddu would be considered GOAT, they aren’t, Root was supposed to be better at home than Indian batsmen, he wasn’t only slightly better than Jadeja in batting.
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First of quality of runs matter rather then quantity. Gill scored the most runs yet only performed on user flat tracks with 1 draws, 1 loss and 1 win.

He genuinely won the 2nd test and full credit where it is due but his scored were meaningless as every tom dick and Harry were scoring in the 1st and 4th. Whether he pull have scored or not in the 1st or 4th would have made zero difference in the result.

Same with jadeja, nothing that he did made a damn difference except for the 3rd test where it was a fighting knock and credit needs to be given.

Root's crossed over the line in the 1st test, his 3rd test century is directly responsible for an england victory. His 5th test century is an even better knock then jadeja's in the 3rd test albeit a complete botch.

As for jadeja amd ashwin, everyone knows they are frauds except delusional indians.

Ashwin and jadeja got those wickets in the sane wickets where satner humiliated them deapite satner not even playing tests, Similarly root got a 5fer on such pitches lol.

Obviously jadeja and ashwin will out owl any overseas spinner on such pitches as they play on these pitches 24/7 and know em like the back of their hand.

Unlike ashwin and jadeja root doesnt get exposed in every overseas tour he goes to.

Secondly are you honestly comparing succeeding on doctored pitches where every tom dick and Harry can score vs succeeding on 4 flat pitches + 1 difficult pitch?

3rd test was a nightmare of a putch yet root outdated everyone proving that he is the best batter out of india and england in a pitch that has meaning to it.

While on uber flat tracks, Gill and Jadeja are better then him but that's hardly a credible achievement if every batter is performing.
 
mominsaigol said:
First of quality of runs matter rather then quantity. Gill scored the most runs yet only performed on user flat tracks with 1 draws, 1 loss and 1 win.

He genuinely won the 2nd test and full credit where it is due but his scored were meaningless as every tom dick and Harry were scoring in the 1st and 4th. Whether he pull have scored or not in the 1st or 4th would have made zero difference in the result.

Same with jadeja, nothing that he did made a damn difference except for the 3rd test where it was a fighting knock and credit needs to be given.

Root's crossed over the line in the 1st test, his 3rd test century is directly responsible for an england victory. His 5th test century is an even better knock then jadeja's in the 3rd test albeit a complete botch.

As for jadeja amd ashwin, everyone knows they are frauds except delusional indians.

Ashwin and jadeja got those wickets in the sane wickets where satner humiliated them deapite satner not even playing tests, Similarly root got a 5fer on such pitches lol.

Obviously jadeja and ashwin will out owl any overseas spinner on such pitches as they play on these pitches 24/7 and know em like the back of their hand.

Unlike ashwin and jadeja root doesnt get exposed in every overseas tour he goes to.

Secondly are you honestly comparing succeeding on doctored pitches where every tom dick and Harry can score vs succeeding on 4 flat pitches + 1 difficult pitch?

3rd test was a nightmare of a putch yet root outdated everyone proving that he is the best batter out of india and england in a pitch that has meaning to it.

While on uber flat tracks, Gill and Jadeja are better then him but that's hardly a credible achievement if every batter is performing.
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@JaDed Sorry for alot of typos in the post. Atm i am have a 100 degree fever and my text keyboard is wobbling in my head.
 
JaDed said:
it’s alright take rest, we can argue about again during Ashes.
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Apologies for outburst as well, as I am not in a correct state of mind atm, while I have stated controversial takes on timepass, they are never directed at someone specific. I think i am going to log off PP for a week.
 
mominsaigol said:
First of quality of runs matter rather then quantity. Gill scored the most runs yet only performed on user flat tracks with 1 draws, 1 loss and 1 win.

He genuinely won the 2nd test and full credit where it is due but his scored were meaningless as every tom dick and Harry were scoring in the 1st and 4th. Whether he pull have scored or not in the 1st or 4th would have made zero difference in the result.

Same with jadeja, nothing that he did made a damn difference except for the 3rd test where it was a fighting knock and credit needs to be given.

Root's crossed over the line in the 1st test, his 3rd test century is directly responsible for an england victory. His 5th test century is an even better knock then jadeja's in the 3rd test albeit a complete botch.

As for jadeja amd ashwin, everyone knows they are frauds except delusional indians.

Ashwin and jadeja got those wickets in the sane wickets where satner humiliated them deapite satner not even playing tests, Similarly root got a 5fer on such pitches lol.

Obviously jadeja and ashwin will out owl any overseas spinner on such pitches as they play on these pitches 24/7 and know em like the back of their hand.

Unlike ashwin and jadeja root doesnt get exposed in every overseas tour he goes to.

Secondly are you honestly comparing succeeding on doctored pitches where every tom dick and Harry can score vs succeeding on 4 flat pitches + 1 difficult pitch?

3rd test was a nightmare of a putch yet root outdated everyone proving that he is the best batter out of india and england in a pitch that has meaning to it.

While on uber flat tracks, Gill and Jadeja are better then him but that's hardly a credible achievement if every batter is performing.
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While pitch matters conditions and location matters too, for Jadeja Rahul and Gill it was away series that too for 5 tests, which would ideally make it tougher.
Doctored pitches are a thing everywhere now, if every tom dick harry could score then Ash-Jaddu wont be taking teams to oblivion(except one series).
Sachin would always score in home games, even if Spinners take wickets he would smack Shane Warne like in Chennai..
 
mominsaigol said:
Apologies for outburst as well, as I am not in a correct state of mind atm, while I have stated controversial takes on timepass, they are never directed at someone specific. I think i am going to log off PP for a week.
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It’s alright, happens to everyone. See you soon for Asia cup
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Most test centuries as a teenager.

Now tell me unique Root records not tied to longevity?
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Most test centuries as a teenager.

That's longetivity, 16 to 19, 3 years while others make their debut at 19🤣. He played the most games as a teenager which is a longetivity metric.

Also ik you wont respond due to that hindu gods nonsense but idc. It is my duty to Kill la Kill.
 
Sachin was a unique talent who started his career at 16 and scored centuries vs tough opponents away from home.

Its not his fault that others are not good enough to play.
 
Only people who should be taken seriously are Pakpassion members who all have 200 Tests behind them. Every former/current cricketer/expert who rate Sachin Tendulkar aren't in their right minds. Any batter is better than Sachin Tendulkar as the legends of Pakpassion think so. So lets go with that, Root is greater than Sachin, there is no comparison.

On a serious note, whatever is said on this forum or on this thread is a personal opinion. This does not change the fact that Sachin is a certified GOAT. It does not matter if poster A or B thinks otherwise. Now people are discrediting Sachin because he was consistent for 24 years? Shahid Afridi played for almost 20 years, no one calls him a legend other than Pakistan fans off-course, who will bring metrics such as match winner/selfless player etc.

India not winning games has nothing to do with Sachin Tendulkar. For example, people on the forum who call Brian Lara a legend only because of his one 153* at home against Australia need to realise that his team only won 32 Tests of the 131 he was involved in. Michael Slater who played only 74 Tests in his career has been part of 44 Test wins. So should we claim that he is better than Sangakkara or Lara? Team sport is called that for a reason, lots of decent Aussie batters were part of more Test wins than some so called legends of the game. Cricket greats cannot be judged by match winning performances. This means nothing in team sports. A player can play a brilliant knock and still lose the game because their team did not click as a unit. People have to realise that Sachin was part of a mediocre Indian team till after 2001, which is 12 years of his career.

Also people talking about Sachin not winning games all by himself in ODIs need to understand cricket first before making such statements. Sachin opened the batting for majority of his career. For an an opener to win games all by himself he needs to carry the bat for 50 overs. Can some of the legends on this forum here point out ODI openers who have done it consistently in their careers? You will not as that does not help your agenda so let me put this out for you to digest, Out of 635 players who have batted at positions 1-2 in ODI's Sachin has most hundreds batting second in winning causes, 14 in 95 innings.

Rohit Sharma is second with 12 followed by Dilshan, Jayasuriya and Anwar with 9. So understand this, openers are not expected to chase down 300 runs and bat 50 overs. In the history of ODI cricket it has not happened that many times. Cannot compare number 3 - 5 batters with openers. Some of the legends you think are better than Sachin have scored 100's in winning causes at the same rate as Sachin, so not sure how they are better.

I can post all these facts but still people will not respond and bring some comparisons like batter vs Bowler, runs against a team, runs in a continent, ground, backyard etc to further their point. If you want to discuss actual cricket, please respond. Longevity is not easy, players cannot play for 24 years and be good for all those years. People claim that it is so easy to play for 24 years and score a load of runs. Most players get burnt out and get dropped before they even get close. People actually think that Ponting, Sangakkara or anyone else would have broken Sachin's record if they had played 200 games. The fact of the matter is they wouldn't have. Sangakkara was struggling to score runs at home in his last series. Ponting was averaging 40 in his last 5 years and 37 in his last 2. He played 168 Tests. His average was dropping. You have to give it to Sanga though that he got out before his average took a huge drop as well.

Playing for 24 years and 200 Tests and still average 54 in Tests is not easy. Joe Root is doing that and I respect him for that. it is not an easy feat to play that many Tests and still maintain a healthy average. Sachin did that and now Root is doing it and he will deserve it if he achieves the land mark. If he is better than Sachin is something I don't want to get into. It is a matter of opinion. Don't care if Sachin loses his Test runs record, everyone will still rate him as a batter and he will still be getting picked and or considered in playing XI's of all former and current greats. Sunil Gavaskar once held the record for most Test runs and was first to get to 10K, multiple people have gone past that record since then, no biggie but still Sunny after almost 40 years since his retirement gets spoken about and makes most of the all-time XI's, that's their legacy and not the runs they score or the records they set. The same will be for Sachin, records are meant to be broken and good on Joe Root if he gets there, but Sachin's legacy will remain as one of the GOAT's of the game, no matter what the people on this forum think.

Jimmy Anderson and Sachin played for so many years and yet maintained a performance which was equal to the best from that era. That is no joke.
 
giri26 said:
Only people who should be taken seriously are Pakpassion members who all have 200 Tests behind them. Every former/current cricketer/expert who rate Sachin Tendulkar aren't in their right minds. Any batter is better than Sachin Tendulkar as the legends of Pakpassion think so. So lets go with that, Root is greater than Sachin, there is no comparison.

On a serious note, whatever is said on this forum or on this thread is a personal opinion. This does not change the fact that Sachin is a certified GOAT. It does not matter if poster A or B thinks otherwise. Now people are discrediting Sachin because he was consistent for 24 years? Shahid Afridi played for almost 20 years, no one calls him a legend other than Pakistan fans off-course, who will bring metrics such as match winner/selfless player etc.

India not winning games has nothing to do with Sachin Tendulkar. For example, people on the forum who call Brian Lara a legend only because of his one 153* at home against Australia need to realise that his team only won 32 Tests of the 131 he was involved in. Michael Slater who played only 74 Tests in his career has been part of 44 Test wins. So should we claim that he is better than Sangakkara or Lara? Team sport is called that for a reason, lots of decent Aussie batters were part of more Test wins than some so called legends of the game. Cricket greats cannot be judged by match winning performances. This means nothing in team sports. A player can play a brilliant knock and still lose the game because their team did not click as a unit. People have to realise that Sachin was part of a mediocre Indian team till after 2001, which is 12 years of his career.

Also people talking about Sachin not winning games all by himself in ODIs need to understand cricket first before making such statements. Sachin opened the batting for majority of his career. For an an opener to win games all by himself he needs to carry the bat for 50 overs. Can some of the legends on this forum here point out ODI openers who have done it consistently in their careers? You will not as that does not help your agenda so let me put this out for you to digest, Out of 635 players who have batted at positions 1-2 in ODI's Sachin has most hundreds batting second in winning causes, 14 in 95 innings.

Rohit Sharma is second with 12 followed by Dilshan, Jayasuriya and Anwar with 9. So understand this, openers are not expected to chase down 300 runs and bat 50 overs. In the history of ODI cricket it has not happened that many times. Cannot compare number 3 - 5 batters with openers. Some of the legends you think are better than Sachin have scored 100's in winning causes at the same rate as Sachin, so not sure how they are better.

I can post all these facts but still people will not respond and bring some comparisons like batter vs Bowler, runs against a team, runs in a continent, ground, backyard etc to further their point. If you want to discuss actual cricket, please respond. Longevity is not easy, players cannot play for 24 years and be good for all those years. People claim that it is so easy to play for 24 years and score a load of runs. Most players get burnt out and get dropped before they even get close. People actually think that Ponting, Sangakkara or anyone else would have broken Sachin's record if they had played 200 games. The fact of the matter is they wouldn't have. Sangakkara was struggling to score runs at home in his last series. Ponting was averaging 40 in his last 5 years and 37 in his last 2. He played 168 Tests. His average was dropping. You have to give it to Sanga though that he got out before his average took a huge drop as well.

Playing for 24 years and 200 Tests and still average 54 in Tests is not easy. Joe Root is doing that and I respect him for that. it is not an easy feat to play that many Tests and still maintain a healthy average. Sachin did that and now Root is doing it and he will deserve it if he achieves the land mark. If he is better than Sachin is something I don't want to get into. It is a matter of opinion. Don't care if Sachin loses his Test runs record, everyone will still rate him as a batter and he will still be getting picked and or considered in playing XI's of all former and current greats. Sunil Gavaskar once held the record for most Test runs and was first to get to 10K, multiple people have gone past that record since then, no biggie but still Sunny after almost 40 years since his retirement gets spoken about and makes most of the all-time XI's, that's their legacy and not the runs they score or the records they set. The same will be for Sachin, records are meant to be broken and good on Joe Root if he gets there, but Sachin's legacy will remain as one of the GOAT's of the game, no matter what the people on this forum think.

Jimmy Anderson and Sachin played for so many years and yet maintained a performance which was equal to the best from that era. That is no joke.
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The reason Tendulkar gets criticised is cause you guys keep giving him a god like greatest of all time status.

If he truly was the god that you proclaimed him to be, then he should be similar to Bradman. Their should not be any cracks in his stature.

An opener winning a game in that era? Very difficult yet gilly has more wins then sachin. The so called god of cricket has none against any top tier side except for his desert storm in ings which came against a 2nd string aussie attack.

Similarly a so called god of cricket should not have things tied down to longetivity alone. In 24 years he top scored 2x, never scored a 500 on any series despite dozens of test batters out performing, didnt have the highest avg.

His stat of most centuries as a teenager are due to him making a debut at 16 and playing for 3 extra years, nowadays it is not possible In this era. Sachin was a by product of said era. And no one claimed afridi is > him lol.

He has no record tied down to longetivity, zero memorable innings. If you are Zimbabwe and Bangladesh he avg 51 and he has played more minnows in test then any other batter in history.

Its also a known fact that test batting g was easier in that era. Every side in this era has a lower economy then the past excluding sa. The no of drawn test matches have decreased in this era as well. A tulla like Afridi avg 37 in test cricket which shows how easy batting use to be in that era.

Despite this Joe root and Sachin have identical stats considering root doesnt play any minnows excluding one off Tests vs Zimbabwe or bamgladesh here and their.

Steve Smith avg 57+ in 74 test matches, while Sachin did it in 9. All those people claiming he avg 57 after 119 Tests failed to mention that his stupid 136 avg vs bangaldesh inflated it to that number otherwise his avg is around 50+.

Sachin also has no 300, in this era due to the harsh bowling conditons getting a 300 is a rare site unless you get the perfect batting conditons like karun nair did or Harry Brook did in pakistan however 300 was a common occurrence in sachin's era yet he could never elevate himself towards it.

All these metrics on Sachin are brutally unfair, but when you elevate Sachin to a status of a god and the undisputed no 1 or no 2 while everyone else like Steve smith, lara, Joe root, Ponting, sobers etc etc are downplayed simply due to Indian fragile ego then people will bring this up.

Winning games as an opener in that era is tough but it should be a walk in the park for the so called god of cricket.

Getting 500 runs in that era is tough if you dont play a 5 match series but many did it in 3/4, while the so called god couldnt ever come close.

Top scoring year by year is tough but a so called god should easily be able to do so.

Out averaging everyone in that era is tough but a so called god should be able to do so.

Getting an innings listed in wisden is tough but a so called god should have multiple upon multiple innings listed in that era.

Out of all sachin's records his most impressive is avg 40 or > in every country which isnt possible in this era due to pitch doctoring however its his solo record in that era. That is his greatest achievement not tied down to longetivity.

However beyond that he has 0, I repeat 0 records that aren't tied to longetivity.

Most 100's as a teenager = Longetivity as most matches played as a teenager.

Most runs = Longetivity due to playing 200 test matches.

Most centuries in test, 2nd in odi = Longetivity due to playing the most games

Most runs in odi = Longetivity as he is the only player to reach 464 odi games

He has 1 record that isnt tied to longetivity.

So factoring all this in, why is the so called God of Cricket having such cracks in his record? Why are excuses upon excuses being made such as Openers cant do this and that when players like hayden and gilly have proved it otherwise?

And why are people so desperate to point out what legends proclaim yet when other legends like Steve smith or ponting claim something about root that is filtered out.

This excessive lying needs to stop.
 
mominsaigol said:
The reason Tendulkar gets criticised is cause you guys keep giving him a god like greatest of all time status.

If he truly was the god that you proclaimed him to be, then he should be similar to Bradman. Their should not be any cracks in his stature.

An opener winning a game in that era? Very difficult yet gilly has more wins then sachin. The so called god of cricket has none against any top tier side except for his desert storm in ings which came against a 2nd string aussie attack.

Similarly a so called god of cricket should not have things tied down to longetivity alone. In 24 years he top scored 2x, never scored a 500 on any series despite dozens of test batters out performing, didnt have the highest avg.

His stat of most centuries as a teenager are due to him making a debut at 16 and playing for 3 extra years, nowadays it is not possible In this era. Sachin was a by product of said era. And no one claimed afridi is > him lol.

He has no record tied down to longetivity, zero memorable innings. If you are Zimbabwe and Bangladesh he avg 51 and he has played more minnows in test then any other batter in history.

Its also a known fact that test batting g was easier in that era. Every side in this era has a lower economy then the past excluding sa. The no of drawn test matches have decreased in this era as well. A tulla like Afridi avg 37 in test cricket which shows how easy batting use to be in that era.

Despite this Joe root and Sachin have identical stats considering root doesnt play any minnows excluding one off Tests vs Zimbabwe or bamgladesh here and their.

Steve Smith avg 57+ in 74 test matches, while Sachin did it in 9. All those people claiming he avg 57 after 119 Tests failed to mention that his stupid 136 avg vs bangaldesh inflated it to that number otherwise his avg is around 50+.

Sachin also has no 300, in this era due to the harsh bowling conditons getting a 300 is a rare site unless you get the perfect batting conditons like karun nair did or Harry Brook did in pakistan however 300 was a common occurrence in sachin's era yet he could never elevate himself towards it.

All these metrics on Sachin are brutally unfair, but when you elevate Sachin to a status of a god and the undisputed no 1 or no 2 while everyone else like Steve smith, lara, Joe root, Ponting, sobers etc etc are downplayed simply due to Indian fragile ego then people will bring this up.

Winning games as an opener in that era is tough but it should be a walk in the park for the so called god of cricket.

Getting 500 runs in that era is tough if you dont play a 5 match series but many did it in 3/4, while the so called god couldnt ever come close.

Top scoring year by year is tough but a so called god should easily be able to do so.

Out averaging everyone in that era is tough but a so called god should be able to do so.

Getting an innings listed in wisden is tough but a so called god should have multiple upon multiple innings listed in that era.

Out of all sachin's records his most impressive is avg 40 or > in every country which isnt possible in this era due to pitch doctoring however its his solo record in that era. That is his greatest achievement not tied down to longetivity.

However beyond that he has 0, I repeat 0 records that aren't tied to longetivity.

Most 100's as a teenager = Longetivity as most matches played as a teenager.

Most runs = Longetivity due to playing 200 test matches.

Most centuries in test, 2nd in odi = Longetivity due to playing the most games

Most runs in odi = Longetivity as he is the only player to reach 464 odi games

He has 1 record that isnt tied to longetivity.

So factoring all this in, why is the so called God of Cricket having such cracks in his record? Why are excuses upon excuses being made such as Openers cant do this and that when players like hayden and gilly have proved it otherwise?

And why are people so desperate to point out what legends proclaim yet when other legends like Steve smith or ponting claim something about root that is filtered out.

This excessive lying needs to stop.
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Sachin is an Indian great, what people call him in India cannot be held against him. He did not call himself God or whatever. Strange that a player gets criticised for what his fans call him, this is a lol statement. Also someone good enough to play 200+ Tests is itself a great achievement. Also saying that someone who plays 200 Tests will automatically score highest number of runs is stupid. Virat Kohli played 123 Tests and ended up under 10K test runs, Younis Khan played 118 Tests and scored 10,299 runs. So more games = more runs theory falls flat.

Lol what have Hayden and Gilly proven? Please enlighten me. Hayden and Gilly come nowhere near Sachin in ODI's with their stats, please don't bring in scoring 100's in finals nonsense. Gilly averaged 35 in ODIs and has only 8 hundreds in winning cause chasing in same amount of innings as Sachin. Hayden has 0 hundreds in ODIs in winning cause while chasing in 47 innings. Please enlighten me what they have proven? I would love to know that. Don't confuse formats, even then their records fall flat.

Sachin played well in all countries and performed everywhere, if he scored runs against Bangladesh what is wrong in that. Every player has a bogey team they cash in against. You can diss him if he failed against all the countries other than BD. Ricky Ponting has huge hole in his record with poor average in India and okay to decent average in England. Sangakkara filled his boots against Zimbabwe, Bangladesh and Pakistan but absolutely struggled in India, West Indies and SA and was just average in England. Steven Smith has okay to decent records in England/SA and has absolute poor record in Bangladesh albeit in 4 innings. Joe Root averages 24 in BD and 35 in Australia. So I can pull out records of all the players you mentioned and dissect them the same way as you do with Sachin. The fact of the matter is that there is no perfect batters. Stats can be manipulated. Sachin's legend is not because he scored that many runs or scored that many hundreds, people who watched him bat knew he was special from the age of 16. He has a huge emotional value for the Indian fans from that era, which is the reason for those excessive praise from the fans of that era including myself. But again I am not a regular fanboy. I have watched the game for more than 30 years and understand the ins and outs. I don't go by stats but again some people need numbers to even understand simplest of facts about the game.

I say again Longevity isn't easy and to perform at that level for 24 years isn't easy as well. There is no lying, the only people who are trying to twist the facts to downplay a legend are on this forum. Indian people even call some actors as gods, thats a stupid sentiment, no need to bring that up when judging a player. Yes Sachin did underachieve and unfortunately did not get to play that many Tests in his prime in the 90's where he averaged more than any player in that era. He averaged 58 while the next highest was 53. He was doing it while averaging 43 at a SR of 86 at the same time in ODIs. At the age of 25 he already had most hundreds in ODIs. His injuries post 2002/03 made him a more cautious batter which most people remember but again people who saw him in the 90's will for sure shower a lot of superlatives on him due to the way he played and due to the way he dominated a decade.
 
giri26 said:
Sachin is an Indian great, what people call him in India cannot be held against him. He did not call himself God or whatever. Strange that a player gets criticised for what his fans call him, this is a lol statement. Also someone good enough to play 200+ Tests is itself a great achievement. Also saying that someone who plays 200 Tests will automatically score highest number of runs is stupid. Virat Kohli played 123 Tests and ended up under 10K test runs, Younis Khan played 118 Tests and scored 10,299 runs. So more games = more runs theory falls flat.

Lol what have Hayden and Gilly proven? Please enlighten me. Hayden and Gilly come nowhere near Sachin in ODI's with their stats, please don't bring in scoring 100's in finals nonsense. Gilly averaged 35 in ODIs and has only 8 hundreds in winning cause chasing in same amount of innings as Sachin. Hayden has 0 hundreds in ODIs in winning cause while chasing in 47 innings. Please enlighten me what they have proven? I would love to know that. Don't confuse formats, even then their records fall flat.

Sachin played well in all countries and performed everywhere, if he scored runs against Bangladesh what is wrong in that. Every player has a bogey team they cash in against. You can diss him if he failed against all the countries other than BD. Ricky Ponting has huge hole in his record with poor average in India and okay to decent average in England. Sangakkara filled his boots against Zimbabwe, Bangladesh and Pakistan but absolutely struggled in India, West Indies and SA and was just average in England. Steven Smith has okay to decent records in England/SA and has absolute poor record in Bangladesh albeit in 4 innings. Joe Root averages 24 in BD and 35 in Australia. So I can pull out records of all the players you mentioned and dissect them the same way as you do with Sachin. The fact of the matter is that there is no perfect batters. Stats can be manipulated. Sachin's legend is not because he scored that many runs or scored that many hundreds, people who watched him bat knew he was special from the age of 16. He has a huge emotional value for the Indian fans from that era, which is the reason for those excessive praise from the fans of that era including myself. But again I am not a regular fanboy. I have watched the game for more than 30 years and understand the ins and outs. I don't go by stats but again some people need numbers to even understand simplest of facts about the game.

I say again Longevity isn't easy and to perform at that level for 24 years isn't easy as well. There is no lying, the only people who are trying to twist the facts to downplay a legend are on this forum. Indian people even call some actors as gods, thats a stupid sentiment, no need to bring that up when judging a player. Yes Sachin did underachieve and unfortunately did not get to play that many Tests in his prime in the 90's where he averaged more than any player in that era. He averaged 58 while the next highest was 53. He was doing it while averaging 43 at a SR of 86 at the same time in ODIs. At the age of 25 he already had most hundreds in ODIs. His injuries post 2002/03 made him a more cautious batter which most people remember but again people who saw him in the 90's will for sure shower a lot of superlatives on him due to the way he played and due to the way he dominated a decade.
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Lol at mentioning Virat Kohli 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.

Anyway YK never declined, he was nearing 40 which is why he couldnt get to 200 test matches, you want him to play till 50? Lol. YK is the standard of longetivity. It isnt his fault that Pakistan as a team plays lesser test matches. Infact YK has a few metrics that Sachin never achieved.

The rest of your arguments are bogus. Steve Smith has better records then sachin in every country. The Bangladesh series is due to putch doctoring Lol. Such pitches never existed in Sachin's era.

Either you are implying that Bangladesh of all teams is a better bowling side to ATG then the likes of India and SENA and can make a fool out of ATG batters, or you just being intellectually dishonest.

Pakistan made a mockery of joe root and every one on industrial pitches and even got lucky with the toss by batting first. Once they lost their first toss to WI and batted 2nd, the likes of warrican was avg shane Warne level stats vs Pakistan 🤣🤣🤣🤣.

Pakistan and Bangladesh using industrial fans is a common trope. Rubbish argument if ive ever seen one.

Steve Smith and Root cam dismantle India, Nz, England in their own dens but they cant handle Bangladesh 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡.

The rest of your rubbish i am ignoring. That Bangladesh argument and YK argument is so bad that I just can't. You'd think a guy watching cricket for 30 years would make better arguments lol
 
Never seen a crappier argument. Steve smith 54, 50, 52 and 51 in India and SENA but he can't handle the legendary bowling of Bangladesh 🤡🤡🤡
 
Root avg 50+ in every country except Aus(only blemish), and Pakistan, india and Bangladesh.

Pakistan was due to industrial fans where he still avg 47, India was due to most pitches being doctored. On the same pitches root failed, he also took a 5 fer and humiliated the likes of Kohli, pujara and many others. The so called goats couldnt handle root bowling to them on industrial pitches which shows how crap the pitches were.

When root was given proper pitched he tonked 170 and has already humiliated india in their own den.

He avg 47 overall and 50+ on proper indian dens that dont include root himself bowling statpadding for a 5 fer.

But ofcourse No one can handle the bowling of the mighty Bangladesh 🤡
 
mominsaigol said:
Lol at mentioning Virat Kohli 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.

Anyway YK never declined, he was nearing 40 which is why he couldnt get to 200 test matches, you want him to play till 50? Lol. YK is the standard of longetivity. It isnt his fault that Pakistan as a team plays lesser test matches. Infact YK has a few metrics that Sachin never achieved.

The rest of your arguments are bogus. Steve Smith has better records then sachin in every country. The Bangladesh series is due to putch doctoring Lol. Such pitches never existed in Sachin's era.

Either you are implying that Bangladesh of all teams is a better bowling side to ATG then the likes of India and SENA and can make a fool out of ATG batters, or you just being intellectually dishonest.

Pakistan made a mockery of joe root and every one on industrial pitches and even got lucky with the toss by batting first. Once they lost their first toss to WI and batted 2nd, the likes of warrican was avg shane Warne level stats vs Pakistan 🤣🤣🤣🤣.

Pakistan and Bangladesh using industrial fans is a common trope. Rubbish argument if ive ever seen one.

Steve Smith and Root cam dismantle India, Nz, England in their own dens but they cant handle Bangladesh 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡.

The rest of your rubbish i am ignoring. That Bangladesh argument and YK argument is so bad that I just can't. You'd think a guy watching cricket for 30 years would make better arguments lol
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Do you even read the posts? before posting nonsense? The comparison was between Younis Khan and Virat and how the former scored more runs than the latter despite playing less Tests. Saying that more test does not necessarily mean more runs in a way where, Virat played more tests but ended up with lesser runs than Younis. I did not imply Younis should play 200 tests. Seems like you have comprehension issues as well. I brought Steven Smith's record to prove that anyone's records can be pulled apart to show them inferior to the other if you want, like you guys do for Sachin by using his longevity to prove how by playing 200 Tests he averages 54 and has 16K runs. Oh God, I am not discussing this with you anymore. I thought you were a decent poster who actually understands the game but gosh I was wrong. Your post is so unprofessional and mostly based on personal opinions and it is hard to take someone seriously when their post is full of smileys. No wonder the quality of cricket discussions on this forum has gone down dramatically in recent times.
 
giri26 said:
Do you even read the posts? before posting nonsense? The comparison was between Younis Khan and Virat and how the former scored more runs than the latter despite playing less Tests. Saying that more test does not necessarily mean more runs in a way where, Virat played more tests but ended up with lesser runs than Younis. I did not imply Younis should play 200 tests. Seems like you have comprehension issues as well. I brought Steven Smith's record to prove that anyone's records can be pulled apart to show them inferior to the other if you want, like you guys do for Sachin by using his longevity to prove how by playing 200 Tests he averages 54 and has 16K runs. Oh God, I am not discussing this with you anymore. I thought you were a decent poster who actually understands the game but gosh I was wrong. Your post is so unprofessional and mostly based on personal opinions and it is hard to take someone seriously when their post is full of smileys. No wonder the quality of cricket discussions on this forum has gone down dramatically in recent times.
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You can insult me all you want. I read the post.

Ofcourse you can score more runs playing lesser then no of games however it is uncommon if you literally have 30+ more games then the 2nd number.

Kohli is a better odi batter then sachin but wont reach his run tally. The difference between 118, 131 and 200 is massive and wide for obvious reasons.

No of runs are match count dependant. Cook isnt anywhere close to hayden as an opener yet has more runs then he does due to tue 60+ test count difference.

The analogy between 118 and 131 and 100 to 165 is beyond massive.

No one is pulling apart Sachin. If fans portray him as a god, the arguments will be addressed.

The issue qith sachin fans has always been the fact that they will downplay other batters to make Sachin look good.

Meanwhile no one does that for Bradman, sobers or Steve Smith cause their is no doubt that they are the best in their respective era and dont have records tied to their longetivity like sachin does.

Even Bradman who people quote 24/7, doesn't believe the gap between lara and sachin is as massive as people portray and many critics viewed Ponting in his prime > Sachin with ponting only declining and hence saxhin once again pulling ahead due to longetivity.

If you actually look at their primes before ponting's 2008 fall off, Ponting avg higher, scores more runs avg 57+ in 14 matches compared to sachin doing it in 9 with 5 of em vs Bangladesh lol. Ponting's conversion rate was significantly better at that time as well.

This is different from someone like Steve smith vs kohli, Root or anyone else where its clear he is massively > them despite having lesser runs then root.

His fans should stop doctoring arguments 24/7 and accept certain faults and stop hiding behind other critics skirts and even then you filter out said critics since you guys believe Pakistani ex cricketers words hold no weightage.

Its a fact that the modern bowling era is more favourable to bowlers as despite past sides having the likes of mcgrath, wasim, Ambrose wtc etc bowler economy of all countries except sa have gone down showing that lesser bowlers are succeeding and performing better due to conditons.

It is a fact that the no of draws have decreased and pitch doctoring exists.

It is a fact that root and saxhin avg = 51 if you exclude minnows which boosted saxhin to 54 while root hardly plays against Zimbabwe lol.

It is a fact that Sachin has onoy 1 record not tied to longetivoty which is 40+ avg in every country but he is lucky to not play in an industrial fan era lol.

It is a fact that tullas like afridi avg 37 in test cricket in that era while tullas in this era are extinct in test cricket.

Sachin is nowhere near as good as he is made out to be. He is an atg, but he is not a god so fans need to keep their mouth shut in this matter.
 
The 90s was as difficult an era to bat as the current one, except that there were better bowlers in the 90s compared to this era. Sachin was the best batter of the 90s and hence he mastered making runs in difficult conditions against great bowling lineups.

Root on the other hand plays half his matches in the flattest track in the world (Bazball England pitches) against weaker bowling lineups when compared with the 90s.

The era of flattest pitches was the noughties, this is the exact era where the likes of Mohd Yousuf, Mahela, Ponting and Sanga made merry by playing on pattas against weak bowling lineups.

Ponting averages around 43-44 in the 90s and then in the noughties he averaged 60 to take his average to 50+. Thats the reason he isn’t on par with Lara and Sachin.

Jaques Kallis also averaged in mid 40s in the 90s.

Jayawardene, Sehwag, Sangakkara and Yousuf also feasted in this era.


The only reason that batsman were able to score more in the 90s was that they were actually very technically sound.
 
So basically there are no records of Joe Root that are not tied to Longevity.

Hence this idiotic argument is now closed and the conspiracy theories of putting Anderson as a bowling equivalent of Sachin are also put to rest.
 
Root won’t even make the top 15 batters of all time, whereas Sachin is the undisputed number two.

What’s there to compare?

Pakistanis and their jealousy over certain Indian players like SRT and Bumrah is hilarious. 🤣
Can’t say much about Virat—for obvious reasons.

:kp
 
Root scores 500+ runs in a series multiple times

Root surpasses ponting and Dravid in runs while playing lesser no of innings in a bowling friendly era

Root bashing india more then any other test batsmen in history despite not even playing the most no of games vs India.

@Rajdeep @jeeteshssaxena

Its just longetivity bro :vk2
 
mominsaigol said:
Root scores 500+ runs in a series multiple times

Root surpasses ponting and Dravid in runs while playing lesser no of innings in a bowling friendly era

Root bashing india more then any other test batsmen in history despite not even playing the most no of games vs India.

@Rajdeep @jeeteshssaxena

Its just longetivity bro :vk2
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Root is indeed a very good batsman. No doubt.

Not sure what is their to laugh.
 
mominsaigol said:
Name the 15 who are better then him sir. Then again I don't expect anything from you at this point.
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  1. Don Bradman
  2. Sachin Tendulkar
  3. Jack Hobbs
  4. Len Hutton
  5. Brian Lara
  6. Steve Smith
  7. Sunil Gavaskar
  8. Viv Richards
  9. Garry Sobers
  10. Jacques Kallis
  11. Wally Hammond
  12. Kumar Sangakkara
  13. Herbert Sutcliffe
  14. Rahul Dravid
  15. Gregg Chappel

Additonally, this is what ChatGPT told me:

🏏​


(In no particular order, but grouped roughly by greatness & legacy)


🏆 Legends Who Defined Batting​


  1. Sir Donald Bradman (Australia) –
    The undisputed GOAT of cricket, averaging 99.94 in Test cricket. No one else comes close statistically.
  2. Sachin Tendulkar (India) –
    The “Little Master,” with 100 international centuries and most Test runs (15,921). Played 24 years across generations.
  3. Jacques Kallis (South Africa) –
    Best batting all-rounder ever. Averaged 55+ with the bat over a 166-Test career while taking 292 wickets.
  4. Brian Lara (West Indies) –
    The “Prince of Trinidad,” holder of the highest individual Test score (*400). Match-winner in an era of West Indies decline.


🔥 Modern Masters​


  1. Ricky Ponting (Australia) –
    Second-highest run-scorer in Tests (13,378), fierce competitor, and captain of one of the most dominant teams ever.
  2. Kumar Sangakkara (Sri Lanka) –
    Technically flawless, elegant left-hander with 12,400+ runs and an average of 57.
  3. Virat Kohli (India) –
    Modern giant with elite centuries across formats, known for chasing under pressure and away hundreds.


🏏 Classy Technicians​


  1. Rahul Dravid (India) –
    “The Wall,” with 36 Test hundreds. Legendary for batting in tough overseas conditions.
  2. Sunil Gavaskar (India) –
    First man to score 10,000 Test runs; mastered fast bowling in the 70s and 80s without a helmet.
  3. Steve Smith (Australia) –
    Current era’s batting machine; ridiculous average of 58+ despite a career interruption.


🌍 Dominators of Their Era​


  1. Allan Border (Australia) –
    Resilient leader; first man to 11,000 Test runs, held Australia together in tough times.
  2. Sir Garfield Sobers (West Indies) –
    Greatest all-rounder; averaged 57.78 in Tests with elegant stroke play, also bowled multiple styles.
  3. Wally Hammond (England) –
    Pre-WWII great; elegant, powerful, averaged 58+ with 7 double centuries.


🔥 Power & Flair Icons​


  1. Viv Richards (West Indies) –
    Fearless, attacking genius; averaged 50+ batting without a helmet against ferocious fast bowlers.
  2. Herbert Sutcliffe (England) –
    Opening legend from the 1920s/30s with a staggering 60+ Test average in tough batting conditions.

:srt
 
Rajdeep said:
  1. Don Bradman
  2. Sachin Tendulkar
  3. Jack Hobbs
  4. Len Hutton
  5. Brian Lara
  6. Steve Smith
  7. Sunil Gavaskar
  8. Viv Richards
  9. Garry Sobers
  10. Jacques Kallis
  11. Wally Hammond
  12. Kumar Sangakkara
  13. Herbert Sutcliffe
  14. Rahul Dravid
  15. Gregg Chappel

Additonally, this is what ChatGPT told me:

🏏Top 15 Test Batters of All Time

🏆 Legends Who Defined Batting​

  1. Sir Donald Bradman (Australia) –
    The undisputed GOAT of cricket, averaging 99.94 in Test cricket. No one else comes close statistically.
  2. Sachin Tendulkar (India) –
    The “Little Master,” with 100 international centuries and most Test runs (15,921). Played 24 years across generations.
  3. Jacques Kallis (South Africa) –
    Best batting all-rounder ever. Averaged 55+ with the bat over a 166-Test career while taking 292 wickets.
  4. Brian Lara (West Indies) –
    The “Prince of Trinidad,” holder of the highest individual Test score (*400). Match-winner in an era of West Indies decline.

🔥 Modern Masters​

  1. Ricky Ponting (Australia) –
    Second-highest run-scorer in Tests (13,378), fierce competitor, and captain of one of the most dominant teams ever.
  2. Kumar Sangakkara (Sri Lanka) –
    Technically flawless, elegant left-hander with 12,400+ runs and an average of 57.
  3. Virat Kohli (India) –
    Modern giant with elite centuries across formats, known for chasing under pressure and away hundreds.

🏏 Classy Technicians​

  1. Rahul Dravid (India) –
    “The Wall,” with 36 Test hundreds. Legendary for batting in tough overseas conditions.
  2. Sunil Gavaskar (India) –
    First man to score 10,000 Test runs; mastered fast bowling in the 70s and 80s without a helmet.
  3. Steve Smith (Australia) –
    Current era’s batting machine; ridiculous average of 58+ despite a career interruption.

🌍 Dominators of Their Era​

  1. Allan Border (Australia) –
    Resilient leader; first man to 11,000 Test runs, held Australia together in tough times.
  2. Sir Garfield Sobers (West Indies) –
    Greatest all-rounder; averaged 57.78 in Tests with elegant stroke play, also bowled multiple styles.
  3. Wally Hammond (England) –
    Pre-WWII great; elegant, powerful, averaged 58+ with 7 double centuries.


🔥 Power & Flair Icons​

  1. Viv Richards (West Indies) –
    Fearless, attacking genius; averaged 50+ batting without a helmet against ferocious fast bowlers.
  2. Herbert Sutcliffe (England) –
    Opening legend from the 1920s/30s with a staggering 60+ Test average in tough batting conditions.



:srt
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Using chatgpt to supplement arguments 🤣🤣🤣🤣.

You lost it as soon as you said sanga, Dravid and kallis are superior.

What metric are you even utilising to determine that? Avg? Hypocritical considering you rate Sachin who avg below all these guys if you exclude minnows and avg > Dravid only of you include minnows.

Country performances? Sanga is a joke in 4 countries and is juat an upgraded version of Williamson, dravid sucks in 2 countries and is a joke their, kallis sucks in a platheroa as well but is regarded as a goat due to the clutch innings he played the countless of many listed on wisden which has sachin missing from all of em. Root has zero bad marks. Only aus of 35 which is nowhere near as bad as what dravid or sanga have on their records.

Innings to run ratio? Root surpassed dravid and sanga in runs playing lesser innings and is only behind kallis in that aspect.

No of matches wins? Root has 1 vs India this year alone while sachin has a grand total of zero 🤣🤣.

No of times 500 runs were scored? Hahahababahabababbaabbahahaah

What metric are we using sir?

Please enlighten me first.

Then again ik you wont ever reply to this or will avoid answering the question.
 
mominsaigol said:
Using chatgpt to supplement arguments 🤣🤣🤣🤣.

You lost it as soon as you said sanga, Dravid and kallis are superior.

What metric are you even utilising to determine that? Avg? Hypocritical considering you rate Sachin who avg below all these guys if you exclude minnows and avg > Dravid only of you include minnows.

Country performances? Sanga is a joke in 4 countries and is juat an upgraded version of Williamson, dravid sucks in 2 countries and is a joke their, kallis sucks in a platheroa as well but is regarded as a goat due to the clutch innings he played the countless of many listed on wisden which has sachin missing from all of em. Root has zero bad marks. Only aus of 35 which is nowhere near as bad as what dravid or sanga have on their records.

Innings to run ratio? Root surpassed dravid and sanga in runs playing lesser innings and is only behind kallis in that aspect.

No of matches wins? Root has 1 vs India this year alone while sachin has a grand total of zero 🤣🤣.

No of times 500 runs were scored? Hahahababahabababbaabbahahaah

What metric are we using sir?

Please enlighten me first.

Then again ik you wont ever reply to this or will avoid answering the question.
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Lol chatgpt said kohli 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡.

Also I need to input into chatgpt myself. I dont trust a single prompt from @Rajdeep
 
mominsaigol said:
You lost it as soon as you said sanga, Dravid and kallis are superior.

What metric are you even utilising to determine that?
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My eyes and superior cricket knowledge are enough to judge; no metrics are required.

As I said, Root is my countryman, and I have immense respect for him as a batter. However, only a fool* would rate him above Sangakkara, Dravid, or Kallis. Whether it’s ChatGPT or Jarrod Kimber, anyone who truly understands cricket would have those legends above Root. Slicing and dicing stats and doing mental gymnastics 24/7 here won’t change that opinion. And comparing Root to Sachin? That’s pure blasphemy… LOL.

*P.S. – I wasn’t calling you a fool. You can filter stats from Cricinfo, after all. Also, you’re still the richest person on this forum, remember?


:kp
 
  1. Bradman
  2. Smith
  3. Sachin
  4. Sobers
  5. Lara
  6. Hobbs
  7. Hutton
  8. Richards
  9. Gavaskar
  10. Hammond
  11. Sutcliffe
  12. Border
  13. Waugh
  14. Kallis
  15. Ponting
  16. Sangakkara
  17. Dravid
  18. Root
  19. Chappell
  20. Weekes

Root will be number 18 in my list of top 20 batsman.
I could have missed one or two names as I made this just by memory of what i know about them.
 
mominsaigol said:
@Rajdeep Now kindly stop derailing this thread.

My life does not revolve around Loony Toons parading around as British people. On with your Bollocks Mate!
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Since we are talking about British people and bollocks, let me put my British pub hat on and respond to you in English banter style:
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Below is when I just enter the pub

Mate, comparing Sachin to Root is like comparing a Michelin-star curry to a well-buttered crumpet. Both delicious, but one’s been making people cry tears of joy (and spice) for decades.

Sachin walked out as a 16-year-old kid, stared at Wasim and Waqar steaming in with murder in their eyes, and said, ‘Namaste, I’ll take that on the middle of the bat, cheers.’

Root’s brilliant, don’t get me wrong. He is England’s finest since Cook discovered how to bat without a helmet hair commercial.

But Sachin’s literally been the final boss for three generations of bowlers. McGrath, Warne, Shoaib, Muralitharan - all got the Tendulkar treatment.

Root? Classy, elegant, scores tons for breakfast. But Sachin had a billion people breathing down his neck every time he walked out to bat. Root’s biggest stress is choosing between Yorkshire Tea or PG Tips.

In short: Root’s a BMW M3 at best where as Sachin’s the entire Ferrari factory. One’s England’s GOAT, the other’s Cricket’s God.


Below is after I spend few hours in the pub

Oi, listen here, mate. You lot banging on about Joe Root like he’s the second coming of cricket? Please. Sachin Tendulkar is a whole bloody institution, he is. Root’s a lovely lad, no doubt....polite, neat technique, scores runs like he’s doing his homework. But Sachin? He walked out against McGrath, Warne, Wasim, Waqar and all the other lunatics bowling fire at him, and didn’t blink.

Root’s biggest worry is whether his tea’s too hot or if the rain’s gonna stop play. Sachin’s worried about a billion people staring at him, expecting him to single-handedly save a bloody country. And he did. Every. Single. Time.

Put it this way: Root’s a solid pint at the pub - smooth, dependable. Sachin’s a keg of craft ale that makes you cheer, cry, and sometimes spill it all over your trousers. There’s really no contest, mate. Sachin’s the king of the crease, Root’s just the bloke keeping England’s tea warm.


:kp
 
Rajdeep said:
Since we are talking about British people and bollocks, let me put my British pub hat on and respond to you in English banter style:
---
Below is when I just enter the pub

Mate, comparing Sachin to Root is like comparing a Michelin-star curry to a well-buttered crumpet. Both delicious, but one’s been making people cry tears of joy (and spice) for decades.

Sachin walked out as a 16-year-old kid, stared at Wasim and Waqar steaming in with murder in their eyes, and said, ‘Namaste, I’ll take that on the middle of the bat, cheers.’

Root’s brilliant, don’t get me wrong. He is England’s finest since Cook discovered how to bat without a helmet hair commercial.

But Sachin’s literally been the final boss for three generations of bowlers. McGrath, Warne, Shoaib, Muralitharan - all got the Tendulkar treatment.

Root? Classy, elegant, scores tons for breakfast. But Sachin had a billion people breathing down his neck every time he walked out to bat. Root’s biggest stress is choosing between Yorkshire Tea or PG Tips.

In short: Root’s a BMW M3 at best where as Sachin’s the entire Ferrari factory. One’s England’s GOAT, the other’s Cricket’s God.


Below is after I spend few hours in the pub

Oi, listen here, mate. You lot banging on about Joe Root like he’s the second coming of cricket? Please. Sachin Tendulkar is a whole bloody institution, he is. Root’s a lovely lad, no doubt....polite, neat technique, scores runs like he’s doing his homework. But Sachin? He walked out against McGrath, Warne, Wasim, Waqar and all the other lunatics bowling fire at him, and didn’t blink.

Root’s biggest worry is whether his tea’s too hot or if the rain’s gonna stop play. Sachin’s worried about a billion people staring at him, expecting him to single-handedly save a bloody country. And he did. Every. Single. Time.

Put it this way: Root’s a solid pint at the pub - smooth, dependable. Sachin’s a keg of craft ale that makes you cheer, cry, and sometimes spill it all over your trousers. There’s really no contest, mate. Sachin’s the king of the crease, Root’s just the bloke keeping England’s tea warm.


:kp
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POTW mate, it is POTW.

Just came to say this.
:genius
 
The only stats that matter is below:-

Away from home vs non minnows,

IMG_3766.jpeg

Smith and SRT are top 2 and Root is not even in 10.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
So basically there are no records of Joe Root that are not tied to Longevity.

Hence this idiotic argument is now closed and the conspiracy theories of putting Anderson as a bowling equivalent of Sachin are also put to rest.
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There is one - Only player to score 0 100s in Australia and regarded as ATG by fans. Root holds this.
 
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