Joe Root vs Sachin Tendulkar comparison

[Narayana59]

I challenge you to list unique Root records that are not tied to longevity.

Joe Root has 7 150+ scores as a captain and only Bradman and Kohli has got more 150+ scores as a captain.

Joe Root has scored 8800+ Runs at 49+ AVG against top 5 teams of his era which is already More than Sachin against best teams that too with a better average.
Where Sachin scored 8498 runs at 46.6 AVG against best teams of his era (90s aus, sa ,wi , pak + 00s sl ,eng , Aus ,sa , Pak )

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Joe Root has 7 150+ scores as a captain and only Bradman and Kohli has got more 150+ scores as a captain.

Joe Root has scored 8800+ Runs at 49+ AVG against top 5 teams of his era which is already More than Sachin against best teams that too with a better average.
Where Sachin scored 8498 runs at 46.6 AVG against best teams of his era (90s aus, sa ,wi , pak + 00s sl ,eng , Aus ,sa , Pak )

None of the above are records.

If he is behind Bradman and Kohli that means the record belongs to Bradman and even if you remove him it belongs to Kohli.

Next?

 

[BouncerGuy]

STAY ON TOPIC...

NO PERSONAL STUFF NOW

 

[Narayana59]

None of the above are records.

If he is behind Bradman and Kohli that means the record belongs to Bradman and even if you remove him it belongs to Kohli.

Next?

Now Joe Root has more 50+ scores than Sachin even though Root has played around 40 less innings than Sachin.

 

[Narayana59]

Joe root is almost identical to Sachin Tendulkar in test cricket as of now.

 

[Devadwal]

Joe root is almost identical to Sachin Tendulkar in test cricket as of now.View attachment 157737

Furat temu Sachin needs to score a test century in Australia. He is statpaddler and FTB.

 

[BouncerGuy]

THERE WILL BE NO TROLLING...

STAY ON TOPIC

 

[Narayana59]

You don't have any argument for Sachin other than trolling root?
Sachin AVG is 40+ in pak is only due to Rahul Dravid who stopped him from statspading yet another 200, so that not out helped his AVG.

Sachin home record against sa is terrible.

Root only struggled against aus, Sachin struggled against both best bowling teams of 00

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Now Joe Root has more 50+ scores than Sachin even though Root has played around 40 less innings than Sachin.

That’s again based on Longevity

His innings per century is 7.38
Sachins innings per century 6.45

Sachin leads here too.

Also its not like Joe Root has the best innings per 50 stats. Its all based on longevity.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

You don't have any argument for Sachin other than trolling root?
Sachin AVG is 40+ in pak is only due to Rahul Dravid who stopped him from statspading yet another 200, so that not out helped his AVG.

Sachin home record against sa is terrible.

Root only struggled against aus, Sachin struggled against both best bowling teams of 00

If Rahul didn’t stop him he would have gotten to a double century and still be not out, that would raise his average instead of reducing it.

 

[Narayana59]

That’s again based on Longevity

His innings per century is 7.38
Sachins innings per century 6.45

Sachin leads here too.

Also its not like Joe Root has the best innings per 50 stats. Its all based on longevity.

Sachin Tendulkar has 68/69 50+ scores in 329 innings
Joe Root has already break that record in 287-290 innings

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Sachin Tendulkar has 68/69 50+ scores in 329 innings
Joe Root has already break that record in 287-290 innings

That’s because unlike Root, Sachin converted those 50s to centuries.

Root has 39 centuries plus 66 50s which means a total of 105 50 + scores in 288 innings. Thats is 288/105 which gives 2.74 innings per 50.

Sachin has 51 centuries plus 68 fifties, which is 119 50+ centuries in 329 innings.

That’s is 329/119 which gives 2.75, there is absolutely no difference?

Infact Roots conversation rate is llower than Sachin.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Sachin Tendulkar has 68/69 50+ scores in 329 innings
Joe Root has already break that record in 287-290 innings

Also Root hasn’t broken that record yet.

 

[Narayana59]

That’s because unlike Root, Sachin converted those 50s to centuries.

Root has 39 centuries plus 66 50s which means a total of 105 50 + scores in 288 innings. Thats is 288/105 which gives 2.74 innings per 50.

Sachin has 51 centuries plus 68 fifties, which is 119 50+ centuries in 329 innings.

That’s is 329/119 which gives 2.75, there is absolutely no difference?

Infact Roots conversation rate is llower than

That’s because unlike Root, Sachin converted those 50s to centuries.

Root has 39 centuries plus 66 50s which means a total of 105 50 + scores in 288 innings. Thats is 288/105 which gives 2.74 innings per 50.

Sachin has 51 centuries plus 68 fifties, which is 119 50+ centuries in 329 innings.

That’s is 329/119 which gives 2.75, there is absolutely no difference?

Infact Roots conversation rate is llower than Sachin.

That’s because unlike Root, Sachin converted those 50s to centuries.

Root has 39 centuries plus 66 50s which means a total of 105 50 + scores in 288 innings. Thats is 288/105 which gives 2.74 innings per 50.

Sachin has 51 centuries plus 68 fifties, which is 119 50+ centuries in 329 innings.

That’s is 329/119 which gives 2.75, there is absolutely no difference?

Infact Roots conversation rate is llower than Sachin

Root plays more than 70 percent of matches against big 4 so lower conversion rate is expected.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Root plays more than 70 percent of matches against big 4 so lower conversion rate is expected.

If thats the case then why does he have less centuries than Sachin against big 4 of his time?

Sachin has 29 , Root has 23

 

[mominsaigol]

If thats the case then why does he have less centuries than Sachin against big 4 of his time?

Sachin has 29 , Root has 23

How many games has Sachin played vs Root

 

[Ab Fan]

Tendulkar is a better batsman.

 

[Narayana59]

If thats the case then why does he have less centuries than Sachin against big 4 of his time?

Sachin has 29 , Root has 23

I calculated about these stats 7 months ago
You are counting pak for Sachin means big 5 teams.

Best Test Batsmans Against Top 5 teams of their era Since 1990

90s era (Nov 1989- Dec 2000) Top 5 teams - Wi , Sa , Aus ,Pak and Ind Just because wi was strong till the retirement of Ambrose, walsh so i included year 2000 as well. 00 era ( Jan 2001-Dec 2009) - Top 5 teams - Aus , Eng, ind, sl , sa 2010s era ( Jan 2010- Dec 2019) - Top 5 teams - Senai 2...

qcclive.quora.com

 

[Ab Fan]

Root plays more than 70 percent of matches against big 4 so lower conversion rate is expected.

Will you be consistent enough to apply the same logic when comparing say, Kohli vs Williamson in Tests?

 

[Rajdeep]

Tendulkar is a better batsman.

Understatement of the decade...LOL

I refuse to accept that Root is better than Kohli...let alone Goddy.

Stats can say whatever. Every Pakistani that is posting here will take Sachin or Kohli in their team in a heartbeat over Root.

#FACTS

 

[Narayana59]

Will you be consistent enough to apply the same logic when comparing say, Kohli vs Williamson in Tests?

Yes it's hard to say Kane is better than Kohli even though Raw stats shows massive difference.

 

[Narayana59]

Understatement of the decade...LOL

I refuse to accept that Root is better than Kohli...let alone Goddy.

Stats can say whatever. Every Pakistani that is posting here will take Sachin or Kohli in their team in a heartbeat over Root.

#FACTS

Then you must be refusing to accept Sachin as a better batsman than Kohli because Kohli played 121/210 innings in low scoring matches where Rpw less than 30 while sachin played only 103 /329 innings in low scoring matches.

 

[atreus]

I refuse to accept that Root is better than Kohli...let alone Goddy.

Stats can say whatever. Every Pakistani that is posting here will take Sachin or Kohli in their team in a heartbeat over Root.

Can't fathom a case for Kohli over Root in Test Cricket which extends beyond xenophobia.

 

[BouncerGuy]

No personal remarks please

 

[atreus]

Furat temu Sachin needs to score a test century in Australia. He is statpaddler and FTB.

Sachin would strongly disagree with this sentiment.

Shame

 

[Narayana59]

Match factors of

90s Sachin Tendulkar -1.8698855033

Virat Kohli till 31 Dec 2019 -1.8523779006

 

[Narayana59]

SPD Smith (AUS) -
-average 56.02
- match AVG 28.81930626
- match factor 1.943835826.

 

[Narayana59]

JE Root (ENG
AVG 51.29
Match AVG -29.27568425
Match factors - 1.751965882


SR Tendulkar
AVG 53.78
Match average- 33.14812202
Match factor -1.622414686

 

[Narayana59]

Sachin played on the flattest ever pitches in srilanka while Steve Smith and joe root played majority of matches on galle rank turners where Jayasuriya has 7-8+ wpm .

 

[Narayana59]

Sachin played on the flattest ever pitches in srilanka while Steve Smith and joe root played majority of matches on galle rank turners where Jayasuriya has 7-8+ wpm . View attachment 157855

Only 2 countries where Sachin is currently better than Root
1- Australia (Joe Root needs an all timer series to overtake him, Joe Root is playing against way better attacks.)

2- South Africa because Sachin played against prime Donald, prime pollock on tough 90s sa pitches, also faced peak steyn.

 

[mominsaigol]

Only 2 countries where Sachin is currently better than Root
1- Australia (Joe Root needs an all timer series to overtake him, Joe Root is playing against way better attacks.)

2- South Africa because Sachin played against prime Donald, prime pollock on tough 90s sa pitches, also faced peak steyn.

Isn't classic Australia > Current aus in terms of bowling lineup due to Mcgrath?

 

[JaDed]

Isn't classic Australia > Current aus in terms of bowling lineup due to Mcgrath?

Cummins StarcHazlewood together are better than Bracken-Gillespie-Lee-Bichel

Mcgrath didn't play in the drawn BGS in 2003.

in 1999/00 Mcgrath Lee and Fleming did play against Ind but we were smacked left right and center

 

[Narayana59]

Isn't classic Australia > Current aus in terms of bowling lineup due to Mcgrath?

For Sachin vs Root Root has played against way better Bolwers because
.

Sachin played 38 innings in Australia.
for a grand total of 6 of the 38 innings McGrath was there, IE 15%.
for a grand total of 9 of the 38 innings Warne was there, IE 23% and for 3 of them Warne was a debutant rookie.
for a grand total of 6 of the 38 innings, McWarne was there, IE 15%
for a grand total of 5 of the 38 innings, Jason Gillespie was there IE 13%.

Although McGrath is clearly better than any of the aus trio

It's debatable to say which attrack is better as in Australian conditions Cummins averages 19-20 , McGrath AVGed 22 , hazlewood averages 22 -23 ,


In away ashes lee and gillespie were mid bowlers.

 

[Narayana59]

VISITING BATTERS WITH THE HIGHEST MULTIPLE OF TEAM'S AVERAGE IN WEST INDIES

(Min 400 runs since 1990)

 

[mominsaigol]

View attachment 157878VISITING BATTERS WITH THE HIGHEST MULTIPLE OF TEAM'S AVERAGE IN WEST INDIES

(Min 400 runs since 1990)

Waugh is the best and most impactful followed by Dravid vs WI and then Ponting. Then Ab 4th and Steve Smith 5th

 

[Narayana59]

Waugh is the best and most impactful followed by Dravid vs WI and then Ponting. Then Ab 4th and Steve Smith 5th

I think inzamam ul haq belongs to top 3

Ab AVGed 88 in those pitches where
gsmith AVGed 73 , Kallis AVGed 60+ , the Bolwers were terrible as we see from the batting AVG of rest of the team's members
Batting average involving abd in wi was 45 or 47.

 

[Hikaru]

SPD Smith (AUS) -
-average 56.02
- match AVG 28.81930626
- match factor 1.943835826.

That's too much precision after decimal for my eyes.

Sachin was the Roger Federer of Cricket, some Test specialist may surpass him in that particular format, but Sachin's talent remained unrivaled, he was as close to perfection as a batsman as you could find.

 

[JaDed]

View attachment 157878VISITING BATTERS WITH THE HIGHEST MULTIPLE OF TEAM'S AVERAGE IN WEST INDIES

(Min 400 runs since 1990)

why is the filter for 1990? Waugh's was way tougher than Smith's tour.