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it’s time address to address the elephant in the room.

PSL and IPL have a symbiotic relationship.

Without PSL, IPL quality drops significantly.

PSL unearths talent unheard of that are not big enough yet for people to notice and bid on in IPL.

However, once PSL bids on an unknown entity or they play a season and excel, then they are primed to be sent off graduation style to their 9-5 mundane routine if PSL is the college stage with late night studying, parties (no drinking ofc) and humble beginnings.

And there’s no shame in that. It’s not about which league is superior. They both need each other. A sandwich isn’t a sandwich without bread or without the roast beef in the middle. They both compliment each other.

Hope this reminder finds you well. For personal reasons and partially due to having some roots in Hyderabad I will quietly and silently follow the Sunrisers on scorecards or the odd highlight of their owner or the six or four compilation of the most recent game, and maybe crack a smile if they win this season for the good ol’ days.

Feel free to support your ancestral team in PSL as well.

Take care.
 
Unearthing talent - To keep it separate, we have to look at domestic and international level seperately

There are only 4 slots for international players in a team which means, there will be low demand high supply for International superstars.

Foreign coaches have done good enough in both IPL and PSL set ups in this case.

The main difference is the domestic / local set up - India has done really well in this case compared to Pakistan.

Both PSL and IPL now competes in the same poop for international talent. So, any replacements for Tier-1 players who are injured in IPL, they go look for Tier-2 players who will get mostly picked at a decent price in PSL.

I mean if Cummins, Hazelwood etc are not injured, they will not go for shopping on the likes of Spencer johnson and all right?? Because there are only few slots available.


Sad truth is, PSL is acting as a feeder league to give international players for IPL in case of injuries. And Tier-2 players also benefit from this.

If IPL and PSL had a different window, I am sure PSL would find better captains than Marnus Labushchagne
 
My grandfather was as part of the Brit iindian army was part of team that dug canals in the mardan, nowshera , sawat areas of the n w frontier now called khyber pk. He became fluent in pashto & i believe also farsi. I remember once he met someone from those areas & spoke in fluent pashto & was happy to know about his acquaintances & friends in those villages.
I recently learnt the meaning of zalmi & now will support the peshawar Zalmi 💪✌️
I like the local connect for team last names for eg Lahore qalandars & wish in India we had name like Chennai Veerans instead of super kings or maybe Puneri Paltan - like the kabbadi team instead of these corny angrez last names...
 
Suleiman said:
PSL and IPL have a symbiotic relationship.

Without PSL, IPL quality drops significantly.
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There are other leagues as well where the IPL teams can get a closer look at the player before deciding to bid for them. One of the leagues might be PSL. But there's the hundred , SA20 , BBL as well.
 
I will support Punjab team because of my mother who belonged to Indian Punjab side
 
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All big six hitters in PSL are international players. No Pakistan batter was in top 5 for strike rates (with 100+ runs) in PSL a couple of seasons ago if I remember.
 
prash88 said:
All big six hitters in PSL are international players. No Pakistan batter was in top 5 for strike rates (with 100+ runs) in PSL a couple of seasons ago if I remember.
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Yes and some of those will graduate PSL with honors and get a seven figure job at their new 9-5 aka IPL.

Leaving behind the memories of college life (PSL)- acing classes with ChatGPT (feasting on some halwa bowlers in PSL) to the boring, over commercialized and mundane professional life at IPL. Not that that’s a bad thing ofc. Paisa is paisa yaar
 
Life cycle of a t20 mercenary / franchise specialist / future t20 legend:

PSL (college) - > IPL (professional work life) -> PSL (retirement)

What a beautiful relationship.

Only issue is some of the PSL t20 mercenaries who were living it up in PSL may get carried away with their new meatier deal in IPL, but then are in for a shocker when they struggle in the elevated level of competition in IPL, with batsmen who can hit 4x the sixes and bowlers who take t20 fun leagues 4x seriously rather than just a vacation.

So a batsman cracking jokes in PSL pre match conference, having falooda an hour before the game, may still nab a couple of wickets and score a nice cameo… however this won’t work in IPL where everyone is trying hard and taking t20 league as life and death.

That Zimbabwean bowler Bakharkhani or whatever his name is however should be boycotted from PSL campus. No homecoming party for him post IPL.
 
Airlines sometimes offers economy class passengers benefits such as upgrade to first class / business class for few thousand rupees during off periods. It means that offer is for available for few lucky suitable ones who are at the right place right time.No one bothered about marnus in this instance.
 
Vikram1989 said:
Airlines sometimes offers economy class passengers benefits such as upgrade to first class / business class for few thousand rupees during off periods. It means that offer is for available for few lucky suitable ones who are at the right place right time.No one bothered about marnus in this instance.
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Well that’s why the college metaphor holds up. Not every student is a 4.0, A+ or A1 student. Some of them need to take extra classes before they transform and go even further in their careers than their classmates who graduated before them.

PSL is Marnus taking extra classes before he finds his rhythm in a low pressure situation and then is unleashed into IPL.

PSL, like any major university, should be proud of the talent it developed, sent off to IPL where said talent is now crushing it.
 
Suleiman said:
Well that’s why the college metaphor holds up. Not every student is a 4.0, A+ or A1 student. Some of them need to take extra classes before they transform and go even further in their careers than their classmates who graduated before them.
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It wont holds up as they are always REPLACEMENTs not the preferred ones.Preferred ones are PREMIUM quality and they dont play in psl.
 
Suleiman said:
it’s time address to address the elephant in the room.

PSL and IPL have a symbiotic relationship.

Without PSL, IPL quality drops significantly.

PSL unearths talent unheard of that are not big enough yet for people to notice and bid on in IPL.

However, once PSL bids on an unknown entity or they play a season and excel, then they are primed to be sent off graduation style to their 9-5 mundane routine if PSL is the college stage with late night studying, parties (no drinking ofc) and humble beginnings.

And there’s no shame in that. It’s not about which league is superior. They both need each other. A sandwich isn’t a sandwich without bread or without the roast beef in the middle. They both compliment each other.

Hope this reminder finds you well. For personal reasons and partially due to having some roots in Hyderabad I will quietly and silently follow the Sunrisers on scorecards or the odd highlight of their owner or the six or four compilation of the most recent game, and maybe crack a smile if they win this season for the good ol’ days.

Feel free to support your ancestral team in PSL as well.

Take care.
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Generations to come will never know about the outsized influence the PSL has had on the IPL. Carve it into the walls of the stadium like hieroglyphics so that this knowledge will never be lost and the youth will pay homage. Pakistan zindabad.
 
Suleiman said:
Life cycle of a t20 mercenary / franchise specialist / future t20 legend:

PSL (college) - > IPL (professional work life) -> PSL (retirement)

What a beautiful relationship.

Only issue is some of the PSL t20 mercenaries who were living it up in PSL may get carried away with their new meatier deal in IPL, but then are in for a shocker when they struggle in the elevated level of competition in IPL, with batsmen who can hit 4x the sixes and bowlers who take t20 fun leagues 4x seriously rather than just a vacation.

So a batsman cracking jokes in PSL pre match conference, having falooda an hour before the game, may still nab a couple of wickets and score a nice cameo… however this won’t work in IPL where everyone is trying hard and taking t20 league as life and death.

That Zimbabwean bowler Bakharkhani or whatever his name is however should be boycotted from PSL campus. No homecoming party for him post IPL.
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Basically

PSL (Boyz) - > IPL (Men) -> PSL (Buddhans)
 
IPL has a whole lot of other leagues to choose their talent from, it's not as if PSL has exclusive rights to these young budding players before the IPL snaps them up.

The retired players also play in a lot of other leagues, even the MLC and ILT20 attract big names, maybe even bigger as they sometimes include current cricketers as compared to PSL.

There's nothing special about the PSL anymore, it's just another T20 league.
 
RexRex said:
Generations to come will never know about the outsized influence the PSL has had on the IPL. Carve it into the walls of the stadium like hieroglyphics so that this knowledge will never be lost and the youth will pay homage. Pakistan zindabad.
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Pakistan Humesha Zindabad
:pakflag2
 
Usman Chadda said:
IPL has a whole lot of other leagues to choose their talent from, it's not as if PSL has exclusive rights to these young budding players before the IPL snaps them up.

The retired players also play in a lot of other leagues, even the MLC and ILT20 attract big names, maybe even bigger as they sometimes include current cricketers as compared to PSL.

There's nothing special about the PSL anymore, it's just another T20 league.
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PSL held the reputation for being the best league for bolwing quality since its inception. Something amditted by many international players.
 
Bhaijaan said:
PSL held the reputation for being the best league for bolwing quality since its inception. Something amditted by many international players.
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All those international players who have taken money from PSL franchises ?
 
Bhaijaan said:
PSL held the reputation for being the best league for bolwing quality since its inception. Something amditted by many international players.
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Bowling quality nowadays in LOI cricket is becoming irrelevant, unless you are a freak like Bumrah.

Until you have batting quality, the league will never be entertaining.
 
Suleiman said:
Life cycle of a t20 mercenary / franchise specialist / future t20 legend:

PSL (college) - > IPL (professional work life) -> PSL (retirement)

What a beautiful relationship.

Only issue is some of the PSL t20 mercenaries who were living it up in PSL may get carried away with their new meatier deal in IPL, but then are in for a shocker when they struggle in the elevated level of competition in IPL, with batsmen who can hit 4x the sixes and bowlers who take t20 fun leagues 4x seriously rather than just a vacation.

So a batsman cracking jokes in PSL pre match conference, having falooda an hour before the game, may still nab a couple of wickets and score a nice cameo… however this won’t work in IPL where everyone is trying hard and taking t20 league as life and death.

That Zimbabwean bowler Bakharkhani or whatever his name is however should be boycotted from PSL campus. No homecoming party for him post IPL.
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PSL = AEW/TNA >> Better young talent, have old legends
IPL = WWE >> Feels stale
 
Usman Chadda said:
Bowling quality nowadays in LOI cricket is becoming irrelevant, unless you are a freak like Bumrah.

Until you have batting quality, the league will never be entertaining.
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Bumrah has a questionable bowling action, so lets only stick to real cricket.
 
Usman Chadda said:
Bowling quality nowadays in LOI cricket is becoming irrelevant, unless you are a freak like Bumrah.

Until you have batting quality, the league will never be entertaining.
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There should be a balance between bat and ball.

I enjoy when both bowlers and batters dominate.

I think 150-160 pitches are good for T20.
 
sweep_shot said:
There should be a balance between bat and ball.

I enjoy when both bowlers and batters dominate.
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The rules are such, it is a batsman dominated format now.

It's no co-incidence that the highest scores records are being smashed. You just saw India smash 250+ in a semi-final and final of a world tournament, which in itself is a joke but that's where we are at the moment and the gap will only increase.
 
Usman Chadda said:
The rules are such, it is a batsman dominated format now.

It's no co-incidence that the highest scores records are being smashed. You just saw India smash 250+ in a semi-final and final of a world tournament, which in itself is a joke but that's where we are at the moment and the gap will only increase.
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They can change it by having more balanced pitches.

I don't really see the point of having super-flat pitches. Why play bowlers on these pitches? They should just use bowling machines. :yk
 
sweep_shot said:
They can change it by having more balanced pitches.

I don't really see the point of having super-flat pitches. Why play bowlers on these pitches? They should just use bowling machines. :yk
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You can continue to have balanced pitches but your players will never develop according to the standards required for playing modern day limited overs cricket.

When the top five teams have embraced this template, you have to move with the times or be left behind like the bottom ranked teams have.
 
Usman Chadda said:
You can continue to have balanced pitches but your players will never develop according to the standards required for playing modern day limited overs cricket.

When the top five teams have embraced this template, you have to move with the times or be left behind like the bottom ranked teams have.
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I am not denying what you are saying. I am just saying it is not right to use bowlers as donkeys. They should just use bowling machines if they just want to see boundaries. :inti

Anyway, this trend started after BCCICC happened. Indian greed for money is responsible for this "batting-dominated" status quo.

In the 1990's, there used to be more balanced pitches and much more entertaining matches.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
IPL is far ahead of PSL in unearthing talent. We should be honest about this.
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They have a head start.

Also, they do all sorts of unethical practices. For example, India don't allow their players to play in other leagues but accept foreign players in their leagues.

Not sure how other countries are okay with this. Other countries should stop giving NOCs for IPL, unless India show fairness. :inti
 
jnaveen1980 said:
I say polishing and giving exposure. Most of them do well at some level before playing here.
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Still they have scouts and player development programmes etc.

Apart from LQ i think PSL teams don't really develop players.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Still they have scouts and player development programmes etc.

Apart from LQ i think PSL teams don't really develop players.
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India age group competition is where true long term talents are unearthed. Under the right team.management they flourish. RR is typically known for picking an youngster and backing them.for long period.
 
Not sure why some Indians are getting offended here. Seems like if they are not being glazed 24/7 with nothing except praise then emotions and sentimentality arises for them. Personal issue tbh not my problem.

I have given IPL its flowers and box of chocolates, you guys don’t even know how many Pakistanis have Deccan Charger jerseys that may be used for errands or to sleep in.

PSL is the foundation though, never forget 🇵🇰
 
Suleiman said:
Honestly pink one seems more fun and friendly. Non issue. First game anyway.

And good that it happened in PSL so IPL doesn’t make the same mistake.
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IPL doesn't use sub par material for a jersey.
 

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ravisurya said:
IPL doesn't use sub par material for a jersey.
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This is a sport for men, it’s not a fashion show, no worries if jersey is falling apart mid game, means it’s tough out there in the game,

Regards,
 
uppercut said:
So considering that the PSL came to be many years later after IPL ... how did the foundation less IPL survive for those initial years ?

As usual you Didn't think thru that one did ya ?
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As usual you’re playing checkers and I’m playing 3D chess. IPL started off with Pakistani cricketers.

And these days IPL is fed PSL stars, albeit not Pakistani but once a star gets big enough they go to IPL.

Can’t believe I have to keep spoon feeding these Indians the sharbat e shaitoot that is the PSL.
 
Suleiman said:
As usual you’re playing checkers and I’m playing 3D chess. IPL started off with Pakistani cricketers.

And these days IPL is fed PSL stars, albeit not Pakistani but once a star gets big enough they go to IPL.

Can’t believe I have to keep spoon feeding these Indians the sharbat e shaitoot that is the PSL.
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The IPL owes a lot to exceptional PSL scouting and talent development.

It's like Vince Mcmahon taking talent from Paul Heyman's ECW.

It's a great feeder league.
 
If only PSL knew how to feed itself with those players instead of providing them to the IPL, it wouldn't be the starved kitten it is.​
 
Nikhil_cric said:
The IPL owes a lot to exceptional PSL scouting and talent development.

It's like Vince Mcmahon taking talent from Paul Heyman's ECW.

It's a great feeder league.
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I knew you’d understand.

If that is not a compliment for IPL, then what is?
 
Suleiman said:
As usual you’re playing checkers and I’m playing 3D chess. IPL started off with Pakistani cricketers.
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ZERO Pakistani players since 2nd season. Try again


Suleiman said:
And these days IPL is fed PSL stars, albeit not Pakistani but once a star gets big enough they go to IPL.
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Such as who .... ?

Suleiman said:
Can’t believe I have to keep spoon feeding these Indians the sharbat e shaitoot that is the PSL.
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more like naali-ki-paani :cigar
 
uppercut said:
ZERO Pakistani players since 2nd season. Try again




Such as who .... ?



more like naali-ki-paani :cigar
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You have a habit of overcomplicating simple concepts lol

I said the league started with Pakistani players- Aka Pakistani players are etched into the foundational season of IPL. So they were part of season 1, no they didn’t play season 2 and so on.

Here are some:

Sikander Raza
Josh Little
Jofra Archer
Rahmanullah Gurbaz
Wanindu Hasaranga

Also David Miller and Sunil Narine despite starting IPL first had a loss of form for an extended period, came to PSL, found their form there and then went on to crush it in IPL again.

Bas? :asghar :wenger

Chalo, now say thank you PSL :gilly
 
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jnaveen1980 said:
Yup would have struggled to unearth global superstars like Abhishek Sharma, Kohli, Dhoni, SKY, Bumrah, Samson, Tilak varma without PSL.
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Seems like Indian fans as India sees more and more success in terms of cricket get more and more sentimental and very tender feelings around any comment about their cricket.

Even if it’s not an insult.

So unless I shower praises and praises on IPL you will have something to complain about no matter what I say.

Heck at this point even if I were to just praise Indian cricket or IPL outright even then you will find something to complain about.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Afghanistan spinners are the most sought after. But there are some ordinary aussies whom he can easily replace.
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Zampa in t20s >>> any overrated afghan minnow basher spinner....they mostly played 98 percent series against associate nations soo that's why their stats looks out of world plus they all are age fudgers pathans.......
 
One can only wonder what the IPL might have been in a world without PSL .. though the answer, perhaps, is not especially flattering.

Agar PSL wujood mein na aati, to IPL ka kya hi Banta. IPL fans ki taraf se PSL ke liye dil se qadardani-e-haqeeqi aur shukrana-e-azeem pesh karte hain. Barah-e-karam, PSL ke liye hamari tareefain aur jazbat qabool farmaiye @Suleiman sahab aur @Bhaijaan sahab
 
Kudos to PSL for giving opportunities to players from associate nations and fringe ones from test playing nations. I just noticed someone from US batting in the top order for a franchise.
 
Very disloyal league is PSL. Its like the Dharinder for Pak.

Very efficient at discovering and feeding talent with direct campus placements to the enemy league.

But when it comes to feeding the national team, the talent is always out of stock.
:inti
 
Another W for PSL today. Which stars on display today will IPL try to steal off PSL’s plate in the future?

Good thing IPL is allergic to steak (Pakistani players) so they are safe on the plate (for now)
 
Suleiman said:
Another W for PSL today. Which stars on display today will IPL try to steal off PSL’s plate in the future?

Good thing IPL is allergic to steak (Pakistani players) so they are safe on the plate (for now)
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English players are now pulling out of IPL if SA and Aus players start doing that in the future then PSL will be more comparable to IPL and that's how leagues should be ones which don't interfere with International cricket..... As playing for your country should always be a players first priority.
 
Hitman said:
Too bad you don't realize he is trolling.
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I most certainly do .... just trolling back lol ... too bad that like most bullies and trolls .... he can't handle it when the fertilizer starts to flow in the reverse direction
 
uppercut said:
I most certainly do .... just trolling back lol ... too bad that like most bullies and trolls .... he can't handle it when the fertilizer starts to flow in the reverse direction
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You quoted me, got replied to, then ran as usual. 🥱

Now chatting up your buddy about how you stand up to bullies. 🤣 😂
 
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Suleiman said:
You quoted me, got replied to, then ran as usual. 🥱

Now chatting up your buddy about how you stand up to bullies. 🤣 😂
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you conveniently side stepped answering a significant chunk of my post and you are obviously not the sharpest to realize that the joke is on you when I refer to PSL as Naali. This is the extent of your trolling skills

You have got your home work cut out ... lets see what you got
 
uppercut said:
you conveniently side stepped answering a significant chunk of my post and you are obviously not the sharpest to realize that the joke is on you when I refer to PSL as Naali. This is the extent of your trolling skills

You have got your home work cut out ... lets see what you got
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Already answered you couple of posts up, ironically it’s you who is sidestepping because you didn’t like the reply.

You like asking for my reply every time I post, so I said chalo bache ko thoda time de deta hoon. And instead best you can do is talk about fertilizer to your bff. :asghar :wenger 🤣
 
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