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Proteas fast bowler Lungi Ngidi suspects Pakistan may go the unusual way and prepare seam-friendly pitches for their two-match Test series in Karachi and Rawalpindi.

The Proteas leave on Friday for their first trip to Pakistan in 14 years with a youthful team made up of players who have never played a Test match or who have never visited that country.

The 24-year old Ngidi said their hosts may be tempted to prepare pitches that will assist their fast bowlers‚ Mohammad Abbas‚ Shaheen Afridi and Naseem Shah.

If they to go the usual route of preparing slower turning tracks‚ the responsibility of getting wickets will fall largely on front-line spinners Yasir Shah and Zafar Gohar.

Keshav Maharaj will then also be expected to play a bigger role for SA with ball in hand.

“We do know they have a few fast bowlers who have done well for them. Maybe the wickets won’t be as slow as people think and that could play into our hands‚” Ngidi said.

“It just depends on how they want to prepare their wickets for this series. The subcontinent is always a difficult place to play Test cricket. You need the right attitude and be prepared to work hard‚” he said.

Due to Covid-19 the Proteas are unlikely to play practice matches to acclimatise to the conditions but that does not bother Ngidi.

“Practice games are usually just to get some time on the legs if you haven’t played in a while but it’s a quick turnaround from the Sri Lanka series. I think everyone will be ready, it’s a matter of getting on the field and executing game plans.

“There are a few senior batsmen in our team who have played all over the world and they know their games well enough.

“In our bowling line-up we are fortunate to have someone like Kagiso ‘KG’ Rabada who we can actually bounce off ideas from and also some members of our coaching staff have played a lot of cricket. So‚ there is experience there.”

Leading SA’s seam attack will be Rabada‚ Ngidi and Anrich Nortjé‚ who are aged 25‚ 24 and 27.

“The pressure of leading the attack is different for everyone‚” Ngidi said. “For me I don’t see it as pressure but more as responsibility because I have come through behind the guys like Dale Steyn‚ Morné Morkel and Vernon Philander. Those are the guys who when I started were pretty much well into their careers.

“I learnt a lot from them in terms of how to handle certain situations‚ how to go about game plans and for me I just feel like we are continuing where they left off. Being young gives us more time to keep performing for SA and it is more of an honour than pressure for me.”

Ngidi has identified Pakistan batting mainstay Babar Azam as the danger man.

“Azam has been outstanding for them since he came through to the international scene‚” the bowler said. “He is their main guy with the bat and if we can strangle every other batsmen‚ it will put a lot of pressure on him to score the runs. You never know what pressure does to certain players.

“We have game plans for situations that we are going to face from their batsmen. If one thing is not working you try something else.

“Subcontinent conditions are different to the Wanderers where all your wickets are caught behind either to the slips or to a keeper,” he said.

“Maybe this time we will have catches in front of the bat‚ different stuff like that. But you have to keep pressure on the team because that is what Test cricket is about. It is about putting pressure for as long as possible.”

https://www.businesslive.co.za/bd/s...t-surprises-in-pakistan-predicts-lungi-ngidi/
 
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Lungi is one Mr Sherlock over here. I wonder who else they would have identified if not for him
 
Pakistan must prepare dust balls if the curators cant create this they must be sacked
 
Pakistan must prepare dust balls if the curators cant create this they must be sacked

Not dust balls but pitches favoring spin that degrade progressively will be good.
Don't want a 2.5 days test match.

Babar Azam will have to score havely, as always so that we can be in the match.
 
Lungi needs to be careful. Pakistan batsmen will target him hard. They are going to be bold and play beautifully at home. He will be caught with his lungi down.
 
Lol 2 of the fast bowlers mentioned in the article can't even get into the team right now :))

Looks like Lungi didn't get the memo - this myth behind Pakistan fast bowling being forever strong has been well and truly debunked.
 
Not dust balls but pitches favoring spin that degrade progressively will be good.
Don't want a 2.5 days test match.

Babar Azam will have to score havely, as always so that we can be in the match.

I dont mind if pakistan wins in 2.5 days aslong as they win or 5 days aslong as they win
 
I dont mind if pakistan wins in 2.5 days aslong as they win or 5 days aslong as they win

It'll impact BA average tho
And I want to see him bat it's the least we deserve as fans..
:ssmith

No dust bowls fore thank you!!
Winning is not everything..
 
Proteas fast bowler Lungi Ngidi suspects Pakistan may go the unusual way and prepare seam-friendly pitches for their two-match Test series in Karachi and Rawalpindi.

The Proteas leave on Friday for their first trip to Pakistan in 14 years with a youthful team made up of players who have never played a Test match or who have never visited that country.

The 24-year old Ngidi said their hosts may be tempted to prepare pitches that will assist their fast bowlers‚ Mohammad Abbas‚ Shaheen Afridi and Naseem Shah.

If they to go the usual route of preparing slower turning tracks‚ the responsibility of getting wickets will fall largely on front-line spinners Yasir Shah and Zafar Gohar.

Keshav Maharaj will then also be expected to play a bigger role for SA with ball in hand.

“We do know they have a few fast bowlers who have done well for them. Maybe the wickets won’t be as slow as people think and that could play into our hands‚” Ngidi said.

“It just depends on how they want to prepare their wickets for this series. The subcontinent is always a difficult place to play Test cricket. You need the right attitude and be prepared to work hard‚” he said.

Due to Covid-19 the Proteas are unlikely to play practice matches to acclimatise to the conditions but that does not bother Ngidi.

“Practice games are usually just to get some time on the legs if you haven’t played in a while but it’s a quick turnaround from the Sri Lanka series. I think everyone will be ready, it’s a matter of getting on the field and executing game plans.

“There are a few senior batsmen in our team who have played all over the world and they know their games well enough.

“In our bowling line-up we are fortunate to have someone like Kagiso ‘KG’ Rabada who we can actually bounce off ideas from and also some members of our coaching staff have played a lot of cricket. So‚ there is experience there.”

Leading SA’s seam attack will be Rabada‚ Ngidi and Anrich Nortjé‚ who are aged 25‚ 24 and 27.

“The pressure of leading the attack is different for everyone‚” Ngidi said. “For me I don’t see it as pressure but more as responsibility because I have come through behind the guys like Dale Steyn‚ Morné Morkel and Vernon Philander. Those are the guys who when I started were pretty much well into their careers.

“I learnt a lot from them in terms of how to handle certain situations‚ how to go about game plans and for me I just feel like we are continuing where they left off. Being young gives us more time to keep performing for SA and it is more of an honour than pressure for me.”

Ngidi has identified Pakistan batting mainstay Babar Azam as the danger man.

“Azam has been outstanding for them since he came through to the international scene‚” the bowler said. “He is their main guy with the bat and if we can strangle every other batsmen‚ it will put a lot of pressure on him to score the runs. You never know what pressure does to certain players.

“We have game plans for situations that we are going to face from their batsmen. If one thing is not working you try something else.

“Subcontinent conditions are different to the Wanderers where all your wickets are caught behind either to the slips or to a keeper,” he said.

“Maybe this time we will have catches in front of the bat‚ different stuff like that. But you have to keep pressure on the team because that is what Test cricket is about. It is about putting pressure for as long as possible.”

https://www.businesslive.co.za/bd/s...t-surprises-in-pakistan-predicts-lungi-ngidi/

Wow, I thought Shaan Masood was the main threat.
 
Lungi needs to be careful. Pakistan batsmen will target him hard. They are going to be bold and play beautifully at home. He will be caught with his lungi down.

If he bowls bouncers at the throats of batsmen the result may be opposite.
 
People mocking Ngidi for saying this yet our players do the same exact same thing for opponents.
 
People mocking Ngidi for saying this yet our players do the same exact same thing for opponents.

Do they? I haven't heard Pakistani players do any kind of trash talk.
 
Do they? I haven't heard Pakistani players do any kind of trash talk.

Not trash talk. Our players will say for instance “we know that Kane Williamson is New Zealand’s best player and he is one of the best players in the world “. Something along those lines.
 
Babar is just a distraction. We want janoobi Africans to drop their guard vs the real threat by focusing on Babar only. I’m talking about Abdullah Shafique. His domestics stats don’t tell the full story, or any story at all for that matter.

But he has a twinkle in his eyes that says he is going to go after the bowlers. Anyone who watches domestic cricket will know what I mean. He is a silent assassin, a less polished Kane Wiliamson.
 
I won't be too sure Ngidi. Many others can score as well. Let's see if the main identified threat is neutralized by SA bowlers.
 
It'll impact BA average tho
And I want to see him bat it's the least we deserve as fans..
:ssmith

No dust bowls fore thank you!!
Winning is not everything..

So you would be happy if it goes to the 5th day and competitive and we loose ?

And you be happy jf babar scores a hundred but stil endds up on the losing team ?
 
So you would be happy if it goes to the 5th day and competitive and we loose ?

And you be happy jf babar scores a hundred but stil endds up on the losing team ?

I'd be happy if it's competitive and last 5 days unlike what happens in a dust bowl
Of course I don't want Pak to lose but would rather take a competitive game than easy/boring win on a dust bowl

Cricket isn't watched only for winning and losing it should be quality cricket which dust bowls don't provide
 
Pakistan should try to avenge their humiliating defeat on last tour to sa.

Anything less will be a cop out.
 
I’m saddened to see no Junior Dala in the squad this time.
 
I'd be happy if it's competitive and last 5 days unlike what happens in a dust bowl
Of course I don't want Pak to lose but would rather take a competitive game than easy/boring win on a dust bowl

Cricket isn't watched only for winning and losing it should be quality cricket which dust bowls don't provide

No comment
 
Not that difficult to pick the only international quality established player in the opposition :))

Not rocket science Lungi
 
Babar is just a distraction. We want janoobi Africans to drop their guard vs the real threat by focusing on Babar only. I’m talking about Abdullah Shafique. His domestics stats don’t tell the full story, or any story at all for that matter.

But he has a twinkle in his eyes that says he is going to go after the bowlers. Anyone who watches domestic cricket will know what I mean. He is a silent assassin, a less polished Kane Wiliamson.

Firstly, Abdullah won't play any test match. He's too young and there's no place to fit him into the team.

Secondly, we saw what going after the bowlers did against New Zealand, so let's not compare him to someone like Williamson, who's stature is almost larger than our entire teams'.
 
I'd be happy if it's competitive and last 5 days unlike what happens in a dust bowl
Of course I don't want Pak to lose but would rather take a competitive game than easy/boring win on a dust bowl

Cricket isn't watched only for winning and losing it should be quality cricket which dust bowls don't provide

That's funny considering that no team on the planet plays for the sake of being "competitive". Pitches are made to suit host teams, and that's exactly the way it has been. This mentality in Pakistan to make "competitive" pitches is absurd, given the fact that we are a sinking #7 ranked team struggling to make it big in the test format. It's almost like giving the trophy to the opposition before the series has begun.

Let me tell you what competitive is in cricketing sense, at least in terms of test matches. Being a competitive side shouldn't even matter on the surfaces you play, it's what the team has. Look at India in Australia. Australia didn't make "competitive" pitches, India simply fought hard and did well. If you want a competitive series, you should hope that South Africa can adapt quickly, which is something I hope against.

Most spectators and fans at this point don't care how "dull and boring" our victories are, they're sure as heck better than watching our team get obliterated overseas.
 
That's funny considering that no team on the planet plays for the sake of being "competitive". Pitches are made to suit host teams, and that's exactly the way it has been. This mentality in Pakistan to make "competitive" pitches is absurd, given the fact that we are a sinking #7 ranked team struggling to make it big in the test format. It's almost like giving the trophy to the opposition before the series has begun.

Let me tell you what competitive is in cricketing sense, at least in terms of test matches. Being a competitive side shouldn't even matter on the surfaces you play, it's what the team has. Look at India in Australia. Australia didn't make "competitive" pitches, India simply fought hard and did well. If you want a competitive series, you should hope that South Africa can adapt quickly, which is something I hope against.

Most spectators and fans at this point don't care how "dull and boring" our victories are, they're sure as heck better than watching our team get obliterated overseas.

:mw
Competitive wickets are the wickets they make in India
Decent balance between bat and ball with help for spinners

Competitive wickets are not there to eliminate home advantage not at all!
They're there to.keep the match interesting where it.lasts for 5 days, simple (of course with help for the spinners)

We don't need dust bowls where teams keep getting out for under 200 or something
Also remember in UAE after Misyou we had no one that can play Spin properly and we lost SL and NZ because of that

So what makes you think we won't collapse against SA and give them a fighting chance

Instead follow the UAE method where we made 400 upfront and in time the wicket started to detiriote and than we finish this off in the last days of the test match

This method is better than a dust bowl where from day 1 the bowl is spinning miles
This could be a problem pct cause than there's a high chance for a collapse which brings opposition into play

You guys getting some ptsd over NZ but try to remember what worked for us back home... :saslam
 
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:mw
Competitive wickets are the wickets they make in India
Decent balance between bat and ball with help for spinners

Competitive wickets are not there to eliminate home advantage not at all!
They're there to.keep the match interesting where it.lasts for 5 days, simple (of course with help for the spinners)

We don't need dust bowls where teams keep getting out for under 200 or something
Also remember in UAE after Misyou we had no one that can play Spin properly and we lost SL and NZ because of that

So what makes you think we won't collapse against SA and give them a fighting chance

Instead follow the UAE method where we made 400 upfront and in time the wicket started to detiriote and than we finish this off in the last days of the test match

This method is better than a dust bowl where from day 1 the bowl is spinning miles
This could be a problem pct cause than there's a high chance for a collapse which brings opposition into play

You guys getting some ptsd over NZ but try to remember what worked for us back home... :saslam

Pitch character in Pakistan makes it difficult for making dust bowls, and even if you do, the wicket starts off flat and then by Day 3, it will spin a lot.

The key would be to bat first and put up a decent score, and then hopefully bowl SA out quickly and bat against when the pitch is still playable.

The so-called "competitive" wickets you talk about in India, are where India has beaten teams on the trot by innings. That's not very competitive, either that or we both have different definitions of the term.

Long-story short, nobody cares about the game being competitive when victory is at stake.

The pitch should ideally have more spin than the one against Bangladesh, but not enough to make problems for us.

However, think about what happens if SA win the toss and bat first on that type of pitch, then a dust bowl makes more sense, because we have superior spinners.
 
Pitch character in Pakistan makes it difficult for making dust bowls, and even if you do, the wicket starts off flat and then by Day 3, it will spin a lot.

The key would be to bat first and put up a decent score, and then hopefully bowl SA out quickly and bat against when the pitch is still playable.

The so-called "competitive" wickets you talk about in India, are where India has beaten teams on the trot by innings. That's not very competitive, either that or we both have different definitions of the term.

Long-story short, nobody cares about the game being competitive when victory is at stake.

The pitch should ideally have more spin than the one against Bangladesh, but not enough to make problems for us.

However, think about what happens if SA win the toss and bat first on that type of pitch, then a dust bowl makes more sense, because we have superior spinners.

Competitive in my books mean an equal balance between bat and ball (in Asia ball means spin)
Indian wickets had the least spin than any other Asian wicket
So not exactly a dust bowl if they're winning by innings than that shows thier class not that they play in dust bowls

Other than that I already agree with you I think you're just getting put of by "competitive" without actually knowing what I mean by competitive

Simple = balance between bat and ball
 
Competitive in my books mean an equal balance between bat and ball (in Asia ball means spin)
Indian wickets had the least spin than any other Asian wicket
So not exactly a dust bowl if they're winning by innings than that shows thier class not that they play in dust bowls

Other than that I already agree with you I think you're just getting put of by "competitive" without actually knowing what I mean by competitive

Simple = balance between bat and ball

I tend to define competitive as the level of intensity and capability of both teams on the field. India playing Sri Lanka in India is not a competitive series, but India vs Australia is quite competitive.

If you meant balance, then your thinking was right, but then think from a bowling point of view.

A direct comparison of our bowlers compared with South Africa's:

Shaheen Shah Afridi < Kagiso Rabada

Hasan Ali (don't know his international form) = Lungi Ngidi

Tabish Khan/Faheem Ashraf/Haris Rauf < Anrich Nortje

Yasir Shah > Keshav Maharaj

Sajid Khan/Nauman Ali >/= Tabraiz Shamsi


Our spin department should be backed because it's the best opportunity to win the series.
 
Not sure if Babar is the main threat but Ngidi most certainly is the best pressure release bowler in this line up.
 
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