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Marco Jansen versus Shaheen Shah Afridi: Who is T20’s BIG MONEY left-arm seamer?

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Often feel Jansen goes underrated, but the guy is South Africa’s top left arm bowler, with Nandre Burger emerging as the next big thing.

Two top class left arm seamers, Jansen definitely the better batsman however Shaheen is no mug with the bat either. South Africa have just looked like a much stronger side in recent years with the inclusion of Jansen and Klaasen in their set up. Shaheen on the other hand is always top dollar in any league he signs up to (rightfully so as well)

Marco Janson Test Economy: 3.38, ODI SR: 30.7 and T20i SR: 21.0

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Shaheen Shah Afridi Test Economy :3.11, ODI SR: 25.9 and T20i SR:15.9

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Who would fetch the most money in a auction?
 
sweep_shot said:
Shaheen easily. He is box office.

Jansen is kind of new to the scene.
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not really

Jansen has been a part of some very successful teams even in his newish career. He reminds me of the old school Saffers with his mentality
 
Marco Jansen is not that good of loi bowler.

He has played 12 t20is with 12 wickets and his economy is over 8 and average of 28.

He is kind of overrated. He can have a good career as a bowling allrounder though. He needs to improve his batting.
 
In recent times,

-Jansen’s side have won the SAT20
-Played a 50 over World Cup semi final (in which they beat Pakistan in their group game)
-Played in IPL final
-Will play a T20 World Cup final

Jansen has been a part of a lot of success recently.

A lot of Pakistan’s and LQ’s success depends on Shaheen firing with the ball. This hasn’t really been the case during the same period.
 
Rana said:
In recent times,

-Jansen’s side have won the SAT20
-Played a 50 over World Cup semi final (in which they beat Pakistan in their group game)
-Played in IPL final
-Will play a T20 World Cup final

Jansen has been a part of a lot of success recently.

A lot of Pakistan’s and LQ’s success depends on Shaheen firing with the ball. This hasn’t really been the case during the same period.
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Marco Jansen is mediocre bowler in T20 format his record suggests as well.
He has average over 27 and economy of over 8

Shaheen hasn't been that good lately and I would drop shaheen after his mediocre performance in world T20b ut he is still much better than this Jansen guy.
 
followed said:
Marco Jansen is mediocre bowler in T20 format his record suggests as well.
He has average over 27 and economy of over 8

Shaheen hasn't been that good lately and I would drop shaheen after his mediocre performance in world T20b ut he is still much better than this Jansen guy.
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I wouldn’t say he is much better.

Shaheen is a better 1st over bowler than Jansen. I would agree to that. But over a 4 over spell, it’s a different story.
 
Shaheen has got complacent on his fame and reputation. Seldom delivers these days. Potential liability in death bowling. I’d say they’re on level terms.
 
Shaheen is a better and more complete bowler who has sadly lost his way. But there's no reason that he can't come back.

That said, Jansen is a serious cricketer that hasn't even scratched the surface of what he can become. His height alone makes him a menace if he can pitch the ball in the right areas. And he has alot of untapped potential as a lower order batter. Also does not seem to be afflicted by the mental weakness of his predecessors. He stepped up in two clutch games against Afghanistan and West Indies. Hopefully he turns up for the final too.
 
Jansen is not a good LOI bowler. Predictable, erratic. But a good test prospect. On some days he can click in LOIs
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Shaheen is a better and more complete bowler who has sadly lost his way. But there's no reason that he can't come back.

That said, Jansen is a serious cricketer that hasn't even scratched the surface of what he can become. His height alone makes him a menace if he can pitch the ball in the right areas. And he has alot of untapped potential as a lower order batter. Also does not seem to be afflicted by the mental weakness of his predecessors. He stepped up in two clutch games against Afghanistan and West Indies. Hopefully he turns up for the final too.
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Yeah, obviously it's Shaheen.
He's out of form recently, but overall this guy is miles ahead of Jansen.
 
Big money Jansen.

Best all rounder in world cricket atm?
 
Shaheen has stagnated and stopped growing as a bowler, much the same way Babar has stagnated.

Jansen is growing at an appreciable level both as a batsman and a bowler & has now officially eclipsed Shaheen. This should not come as a surprise given the lack of professionalism in Pakistan cricket.
 
Marco Jansen is ahead by a mile now. Originally thought it was a ridiculous comparison but Shaheen now is a T20 specialist while Marco is on his way to be a all format great bowling- allrounder.
 
Ik Shaheens is everyone's favourite bashing boy rn but as white ball bowlers this comparison is still a non starter.

Jansen averages 32 in odis with economy rate 6.22. No matter how angry you are with Shaheen this still is a no contest.

Shaheen is going through a rough patch but Jansen has never been great to begin with.
 
Afridi has declined after injury. He used to be a threat with the new ball every game .

Currently Jensen time going on.
 
Marooned said:
Ik Shaheens is everyone's favourite bashing boy rn but as white ball bowlers this comparison is still a non starter.

Jansen averages 32 in odis with economy rate 6.22. No matter how angry you are with Shaheen this still is a no contest.

Shaheen is going through a rough patch but Jansen has never been great to begin with.
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Jansen’s team played the WT20 final- they should have won it if not for a choke

Jansen’s team played WC semi final

They are in the Test Chanpionship final

His team played the IPl final

Now they are in CT semis as potential favorites.

In all these performances Jansen was not a passenger. He has match winning spells and knocks in this process.

He is faster than Shaheen as a bowler and a very superior red ball bowler, better batsman and fielder. Where is the comparison?

I feel Shaheen is still better than him in T20 but that’s like saying Livingstone is a better batsman than Joe Root because of T20.
 
Local.Dada said:
Jansen’s team played the WT20 final- they should have won it if not for a choke

Jansen’s team played WC semi final

They are in the Test Chanpionship final

His team played the IPl final

Now they are in CT semis as potential favorites.

In all these performances Jansen was not a passenger. He has match winning spells and knocks in this process.

He is faster than Shaheen as a bowler and a very superior red ball bowler, better batsman and fielder. Where is the comparison?

I feel Shaheen is still better than him in T20 but that’s like saying Livingstone is a better batsman than Joe Root because of T20.
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Is this supposed to be an argument? Team did this team did that.

If he's so good why does he average 32 with an economy rate of 6.22? That's downright poor.

You mention the wc23 and even there his stats are worse than Shaheen and Shaheen was struggling then and bowled way below expectations. Should've atleast bowled better than Shaheen's worse then.

In white ball, like I said comparison is a non starter. Jansen is yet to take off in white ball.

I'm not comparing red ball here. The op mentions t20 and the thread was bumped for an odi.
 
Perspective bump :moyo

4 overs. Wicketless and economy of 7.5 so far for Jansen.

If Afridi had done same he would have been massacred already on here.

This is the difference. There's no pressure of expectations on Jansen. He performs well people appreciate and if he doesn't, no one cares.

That average of 32 and er of 6.22 doesn't lie. He has never been world-class in odi format.
 
Marco Jansen is a heavy choker. U can see it written all over his face in big games
 
Arshdeep is the big big left arm seamer. Already won a World T20

Jansen is very good at Test cricket.

Shaheen has more jazba, talent , good looks and all other intangibles at levels that neither Arshdeep nor Jansen can compete at :inti
 
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