Mark Nicholas' current all-format World XI

[Mobashir]

Mark Nicholas gave his all format current world XI last week.
Here is his XI :
David Warner
Quinton de Kock
Babar Azam
Ben Stokes
Kane Williamson
Jos Buttler
R Ashwin
Jofra Archer
Kagiso Rabada
Jasprit Bumrah

Some surprising picks here, Ashwin?! Then there aren't any all format spinner going around so it can be the reason of his selection.
Kane Williamson over Kohli and Smith is another surprise for me.

One thing standout as a Pakistani supporter. The best batsman bat at 3 and no surprise who he put at 3, the best all format batsman currently : Babar Azam.

Personally, I will still have Smith in the team, so clutch he is and he is in great form also.

 

[kingusama92]

I think a middle order of Babar, Kohli, and Smith is a must.

One of them would win you a game on their own whether it's T20Is, ODIs, or Tests cause someone in that middle order would fire each time.

I wouldn't have the same faith in Stokes/Williamson playing in those spots.

 

[Rana]

Kohli the T20 Player has been very ordinary since the IPL

 

[Saurav]

Rohit
Babar
Kohli
Smith
Stokes
De Kock
Shakib
Cummins
Rabada
Ashwin
Bumrah

 

[Saurav]

Kohli the T20 Player has been very ordinary since the IPL

India has played 1 T20 game since the IPL

 

[Rana]

India has played 1 T20 game since the IPL

I meant during the IPL, I wrote since but I should of written since the IPL started until now

Mark Nicholas did commentary throughout so he clearly must have seen how ordinary Kohli was looking by the end. Even today he got out in such a soft way.

 

[Mamoon]

The only reason you created this thread is because he put Babar ahead of Kohli.

Please don’t try to mask your intentions by feigning your interest and concern over the other selections because you don’t care about them.

You would have never created this thread if he would picked Kohli ahead of Babar.

The credibility of this XI can be judged by the fact that he picked Ashwin when he has not played a single ODI or T20I since 2017.

Mark Nicholas is well renowned for his ignorance. He has poor knowledge and awareness of cricket in spite of being a seasoned commentator.

This guy has no idea that Ashwin doesn’t play ODIs and T20Is anymore.

Nicholas has a great voice for commentary and creates a lot of memorable moments with his style and choice of words, but in terms of knowledge of the game, he is zero.

He is basically the English version of Rameez Raja.

As far as ‘current form’ is concerned, it is a completely subjective and arbitrary metric that people use to their convenience to justify the selection of the players that they actually want to select.

No one can agree on the time period of ‘current form’. When does its period start and how far back can you go?

One month, three months, six months, one year, two years? Or perhaps your last series?

Different people will come up with different definitions to suit their choices. For example, if you want Babar in the team, you will justify it by mentioning his record across formats in the last two years.

However, if you want to exclude Babar, you can justify it by stating that he was below par in his last Test series in England and clearly did not do justice to the expectations that people had from him.

So this is a completely subjective list compiled by a broadcaster who is well-renowned for his ignorance and that his highlighted in his selections and thus does not merit a discussion.

 

[Saurav]

Rohit
Babar
Kohli
Smith
Stokes
De Kock
Shakib
Cummins
Rabada
Ashwin
Bumrah

Forgot Jofra. He comes in for Cummins

 

[Mamoon]

I should add that Mark Nicholas is one of my favorite commentators. I don’t listen to commentary for technical insights and knowledge because I trust my own judgement, so for me commentary is about entertainment and excitement which is why I enjoy listening to him and Rameez.

But if I want a proper cricket discussion then he would be the last person that I would listen to in spite of playing County cricket for nearly two decades.

On the other hand, someone like Harsha who has never played professionally has a lot of insight to offer because he has great attention to detail and will not do blunders such as pick a player for an all-format world XI who hasn’t played in 2 out of 3 formats since 2017.

He is a genuine cricket aficionado and spends time studying the game unlike Nicholas who learned to play the game himself without really understanding it.

 

[Mobashir]

The only reason you created this thread is because he put Babar ahead of Kohli.

Please don’t try to mask your intentions by feigning your interest and concern over the other selections because you don’t care about them.

You would have never created this thread if he would picked Kohli ahead of Babar.

The credibility of this XI can be judged by the fact that he picked Ashwin when he has not played a single ODI or T20I since 2017.

Mark Nicholas is well renowned for his ignorance. He has poor knowledge and awareness of cricket in spite of being a seasoned commentator.

This guy has no idea that Ashwin doesn’t play ODIs and T20Is anymore.

Nicholas has a great voice for commentary and creates a lot of memorable moments with his style and choice of words, but in terms of knowledge of the game, he is zero.

He is basically the English version of Rameez Raja.

As far as ‘current form’ is concerned, it is a completely subjective and arbitrary metric that people use to their convenience to justify the selection of the players that they actually want to select.

No one can agree on the time period of ‘current form’. When does its period start and how far back can you go?

One month, three months, six months, one year, two years? Or perhaps your last series?

Different people will come up with different definitions to suit their choices. For example, if you want Babar in the team, you will justify it by mentioning his record across formats in the last two years.

However, if you want to exclude Babar, you can justify it by stating that he was below par in his last Test series in England and clearly did not do justice to the expectations that people had from him.

So this is a completely subjective list compiled by a broadcaster who is well-renowned for his ignorance and that his highlighted in his selections and thus does not merit a discussion.

I myself questionned Ashwin selection but thinking about it, is there an all format spinner?
Don't think so.
Maybe the closest to being it is Jadeja but maybe, Nicholas, just like me, don't rate his bowling.
Surely this position is for debate.

Can't understand the "if" Kohli would have been in front of Babar...and what if Imam ul Haq would have been in front of QdK as a keeper?
Babar is better than Kohli currently so there are if and buts.

Currently, for me, means who will I choose tomorrow for a match against a good bowling line up. And Babar over Kohli in all three formats and every situation.
Kohli is still great and if anyone takes Kohli due to his past achievements, I will understand.
But jokers like you bring in batsman like Rohit, Rahul, Iyer, Agzrwal and don't know what else to the put them at a higher level or same level than Babar.

 

[Mamoon]

I myself questionned Ashwin selection but thinking about it, is there an all format spinner?
Don't think so.
Maybe the closest to being it is Jadeja but maybe, Nicholas, just like me, don't rate his bowling.
Surely this position is for debate.

Can't understand the "if" Kohli would have been in front of Babar...and what if Imam ul Haq would have been in front of QdK as a keeper?
Babar is better than Kohli currently so there are if and buts.

Currently, for me, means who will I choose tomorrow for a match against a good bowling line up. And Babar over Kohli in all three formats and every situation.
Kohli is still great and if anyone takes Kohli due to his past achievements, I will understand.
But jokers like you bring in batsman like Rohit, Rahul, Iyer, Agzrwal and don't know what else to the put them at a higher level or same level than Babar.

The fact that you are comparing Babar vs Kohli on current form to Imam vs de Kock as WK batsmen shows who the real “joker” is.

You just negated yourself with this unnecessary analogy. There was no need of exposing yourself so brutally.

Pakistan has been a pathetic team for years now, and this pathetic team has many delusional fans like you. Since a pathetic team produces a world class player like Babar, the delusional fans go overboard and that is what you are doing with your obsession to justify your assessment that Babar is a better batsman than Kohli at the moment.

No he is not. Babar will have to do something extraordinary over the next few years to merit comparison with Kohli who is levels above any batsman Pakistan has ever produced.

And no, keep this “current form” nonsense aside because it is not as if Babar is moving mountains on current form. He himself is fresh from an underwhelming Test series in England where he clearly performed below expectations and was not even 20% of the batsman Kohli was in England in 2018.

There are many batsmen that you can justify as the best on current form and actually Rohit is one of them irrespective of how much you want to insist that he is not on Babar’s level.

 

[Rayyman]

Mine would be:
Rohit, Tamim, Smith, Kohli, Shakib, Buttler+, Holder*, Rashid, Starc, Archer, Boult

Cannot beat this.

 

[Ab Fan]

Rohit
Warner
Smith
Kohli
Babar
Stokes
De Kock(wkt)
Jadeja
Cummins/ Rabada
Boult
Bumrah

 

[Mobashir]

Rohit
Babar
Kohli
Smith
Stokes
De Kock
Shakib
Cummins
Rabada
Ashwin
Bumrah

You doesn't sound India with this lineup...
Rohit is nowhere in the discussion'

 

[Mobashir]

The fact that you are comparing Babar vs Kohli on current form to Imam vs de Kock as WK batsmen shows who the real “joker” is.

You just negated yourself with this unnecessary analogy. There was no need of exposing yourself so brutally.

Pakistan has been a pathetic team for years now, and this pathetic team has many delusional fans like you. Since a pathetic team produces a world class player like Babar, the delusional fans go overboard and that is what you are doing with your obsession to justify your assessment that Babar is a better batsman than Kohli at the moment.

No he is not. Babar will have to do something extraordinary over the next few years to merit comparison with Kohli who is levels above any batsman Pakistan has ever produced.

And no, keep this “current form” nonsense aside because it is not as if Babar is moving mountains on current form. He himself is fresh from an underwhelming Test series in England where he clearly performed below expectations and was not even 20% of the batsman Kohli was in England in 2018.

There are many batsmen that you can justify as the best on current form and actually Rohit is one of them irrespective of how much you want to insist that he is not on Babar’s level.

Yes and Mark Nicholas is also a delusional Pakistani fan.
The rankings are also delusional Pakistan fans.
Babar is the best ranked batsman in the world all formats combined.

Why bring in Pakistan and India in it? This is about individual players. And Babar is on the top of the world. Even tough I personnaly think Babar is behind Smith and Stokes as a cricketer.

 

[Mobashir]

The fact that you are comparing Babar vs Kohli on current form to Imam vs de Kock as WK batsmen shows who the real “joker” is.

You just negated yourself with this unnecessary analogy. There was no need of exposing yourself so brutally.

Pakistan has been a pathetic team for years now, and this pathetic team has many delusional fans like you. Since a pathetic team produces a world class player like Babar, the delusional fans go overboard and that is what you are doing with your obsession to justify your assessment that Babar is a better batsman than Kohli at the moment.

No he is not. Babar will have to do something extraordinary over the next few years to merit comparison with Kohli who is levels above any batsman Pakistan has ever produced.

And no, keep this “current form” nonsense aside because it is not as if Babar is moving mountains on current form. He himself is fresh from an underwhelming Test series in England where he clearly performed below expectations and was not even 20% of the batsman Kohli was in England in 2018.

There are many batsmen that you can justify as the best on current form and actually Rohit is one of them irrespective of how much you want to insist that he is not on Babar’s level.

The real thing is you can't stand the fact that a Pakistani batsman is one of the top players in the world what ever you look at it.
So you try your best to bring him down by comparing him to x, y and z poor cricketers.
The problem is that the world is watching Babar bat, and everyone is loving it and seeing how good he is.

 

[JaDed]

you missed Rashid Khan

 

[BreadPakoda]

The real thing is you can't stand the fact that a Pakistani batsman is one of the top players in the world what ever you look at it.
So you try your best to bring him down by comparing him to x, y and z poor cricketers.
The problem is that the world is watching Babar bat, and everyone is loving it and seeing how good he is.

Babar needs some career defining innings to be clubbed together with elite batsmen like Kohli and Smith. Barring that one game against NZ he doesn't have any memorable match winning knocks. He is still a solid batsman. Also, he plays really really well against SL and Zim though. You have to give him that.

 

[The lone Ranger]

Babar needs some career defining innings to be clubbed together with elite batsmen like Kohli and Smith. Barring that one game against NZ he doesn't have any memorable match winning knocks. He is still a solid batsman. Also, he plays really really well against SL and Zim though. You have to give him that.

Even that WC league match performance was overshadowed by Haris as it was not a free flowing innings. he was given a life earlier in his innings and took about 130 balls to score that hundred.

Even after his 5 years of cricketing career he's yet to produce a memorable knock where he chases down a target of 250+ against good teams.
Kohli has produced some memorable knocks like his 183 against pak and chasing down 320+ inside 35 overs against SL when he was just around 23 year old which I don't think we would ever see from already 26 year old babar!
But somehow He who has "seventeen" centuries is already better than a player who has "Seventy" centuries and still going on!

 

[Khan12]

Babar needs some career defining innings to be clubbed together with elite batsmen like Kohli and Smith. Barring that one game against NZ he doesn't have any memorable match winning knocks. He is still a solid batsman. Also, he plays really really well against SL and Zim though. You have to give him that.

40% of kholi odis runs are against West indies and Sri Lanka. So......

 

[Khan12]

Even that WC league match performance was overshadowed by Haris as it was not a free flowing innings. he was given a life earlier in his innings and took about 130 balls to score that hundred.

Even after his 5 years of cricketing career he's yet to produce a memorable knock where he chases down a target of 250+ against good teams.
Kohli has produced some memorable knocks like his 183 against pak and chasing down 320+ inside 35 overs against SL when he was just around 23 year old which I don't think we would ever see from already 26 year old babar!
But somehow He who has "seventeen" centuries is already better than a player who has "Seventy" centuries and still going on!

Just like Bumrah 50 odd test wickets is better then waqar 370 odd right? Babar has a long long way to go to get to kholi.

 

[tyron_woodley]

warner
QDK
kohli
babar
smith
stokes
jadeja
cummins
archer
rabada
bumrah

tell me this isnt a beast team or ? i wanted to put in shaheen but shaheen doesnt have better test record or t20 compared to archer or cummins.

 

[hitthestump]

No Smith is borderline insane. Not sure on what criteria you leave him out.

Babar has been good in LOI's but is yet to impose himself in tests. It's a no brainer that Kohli or Smith take his spot in the world XI.

 

[therealAB]

Kohli the T20 Player has been very ordinary since the IPL

How many t20's has he played since the IPL

 

[BreadPakoda]

No Smith is borderline insane. Not sure on what criteria you leave him out.

Babar has been good in LOI's but is yet to impose himself in tests. It's a no brainer that Kohli or Smith take his spot in the world XI.

Even in ODIs he has a grand total of 3 centuries against teams not named Zimbabwe, West Indies, or Sri Lanka (and not the Sangakarra/Mahela/Murali SL, the new one that has zero stars).

And even 2 of these 3 centuries came of absolutely flat tracks where his team lost on both occasions because even a score like 340 wasn't enough.

As I mentioned earlier, Babar is a good batsman but there are several ODI batsmen better than him.

 

[Mobashir]

Even that WC league match performance was overshadowed by Haris as it was not a free flowing innings. he was given a life earlier in his innings and took about 130 balls to score that hundred.

Even after his 5 years of cricketing career he's yet to produce a memorable knock where he chases down a target of 250+ against good teams.
Kohli has produced some memorable knocks like his 183 against pak and chasing down 320+ inside 35 overs against SL when he was just around 23 year old which I don't think we would ever see from already 26 year old babar!
But somehow He who has "seventeen" centuries is already better than a player who has "Seventy" centuries and still going on!

So many problems that it's difficult to know from where to start.
No it wasn't overshadowed by Haris, Haris did also play extremely well but that bznzt innings on that pitch was a top class innings and second only to Stokes Final innings.

He hasn't won many things for Pakistan because the team is so bad. You can't win games on your own regularly, no one can.

Why bring Kohli's career here? Who in the world compared both career? Kohli is so much ahead that's it's not even debatable.

The fact that you can't get past the fact that currently, Babar is the 5th ranked test batsman, 3rd ranked odi batsman and 2nd ranked T20 batsman and that makes him one of the best CURRENTLY is only bias against Pakistan.

 

[Mesozoic]

...

 

[Mesozoic]

40% of kholi odis runs are against West indies and Sri Lanka. So......

Kohli dominated Sri Lanka when they were wc finalists, Asia cup winners and easily a top-4 ODI team with a peak Malinga, Kulasekara Herath etc in their ranks.

Not the one that loses to Zimbabwe at home with Pradeep and Kumara and Gamage...

 

[Mesozoic]

You have got be deluded on a different level to believe that a guy with a grand total of one away Test hundred is the "best all format batsman" in the world.

Coming to Nicholas' eleven, just the fact that he picked Ashwin in an all format team and not picked the two best batsmen of this generation tells what we need to know. It's his opinion anyways...

 

[Mobashir]

Kohli dominated Sri Lanka when they were wc finalists, Asia cup winners and easily a top-4 ODI team with a peak Malinga, Kulasekara Herath etc in their ranks.

Not the one that loses to Zimbabwe at home with Pradeep and Kumara and Gamage...

Didn't knew there was a peak Herath in ODI'S. You sound so much desperate.

 

[Mesozoic]

Didn't knew there was a peak Herath in ODI'S. You sound so much desperate.

Lol yeah I'm desperate. So funny coming from you.

I said peak Malinga , Kulasekara and Herath. You know how commas work?

Anyways, no matter how much anyone denies SL of 2009-2014 was a decent-top team and scoring against them counted to something. Now it's a much different story unfortunately.

 

[Varun]

What are Ashwin and de Kock doing there?

 

[Mobashir]

What are Ashwin and de Kock doing there?

de Kock completely deserves it. He is actually the best keeper in every format of the game. An all condition, all format keeper and batsman.

Ashwin : Don't know... But I guess it's hard to find an all format spinner these days.

Even Williamson over Smith I don't agree.

 

[BreadPakoda]

So many problems that it's difficult to know from where to start.
No it wasn't overshadowed by Haris, Haris did also play extremely well but that bznzt innings on that pitch was a top class innings and second only to Stokes Final innings.

He hasn't won many things for Pakistan because the team is so bad. You can't win games on your own regularly, no one can.

Why bring Kohli's career here? Who in the world compared both career? Kohli is so much ahead that's it's not even debatable.

The fact that you can't get past the fact that currently, Babar is the 5th ranked test batsman, 3rd ranked odi batsman and 2nd ranked T20 batsman and that makes him one of the best CURRENTLY is only bias against Pakistan.

He doesn't even have a lot of match losing centuries against the top teams. Match winning centuries is a big ask.

 

[Mamoon]

The real thing is you can't stand the fact that a Pakistani batsman is one of the top players in the world what ever you look at it.
So you try your best to bring him down by comparing him to x, y and z poor cricketers.
The problem is that the world is watching Babar bat, and everyone is loving it and seeing how good he is.

Yes now rankings are important but when Kohli was ranked above de Villiers in ODIs and T20Is, you “didn’t care” about rankings because you wanted to prove that de Villiers is better.

Babar is one of the top batsmen in the world for sure but he is by no means the best all-format batsman in the world at the moment.

Everyone is loving and seeing how good he is not just because he is quality but also because Pakistan is a woeful team and no other Pakistani batsman is close to him and he is levels above all of them.

It is easy for a great player to stand out in a poor team because he does not have to share the spotlight with anyone.

If Babar was Indian he would be in the shadows of Kohli and Rohit and he would not have the status that he enjoys today. Similarly, if Rohit was in Pakistan, he would be a bigger deal because he is a better LOIs opener than anyone we have ever produced.

In India, he is still a huge deal but he shares the spotlight with Kohli.

Babar is the first proper all-format batsman Pakistan has produced since Mohammad Yousuf in the late 90’s. That is the level and state of Pakistani batting. Other countries produce all-format batsmen every 3-4 years.

 

[Ucdkee]

Mark Nicholas gave his all format current world XI last week.
Here is his XI :
David Warner
Quinton de Kock
Babar Azam
Ben Stokes
Kane Williamson
Jos Buttler
R Ashwin
Jofra Archer
Kagiso Rabada
Jasprit Bumrah

Some surprising picks here, Ashwin?! Then there aren't any all format spinner going around so it can be the reason of his selection.
Kane Williamson over Kohli and Smith is another surprise for me.

One thing standout as a Pakistani supporter. The best batsman bat at 3 and no surprise who he put at 3, the best all format batsman currently : Babar Azam.

Personally, I will still have Smith in the team, so clutch he is and he is in great form also.

A rare sight...No indian batsman and no Pakistani bowler

 

[Babar_Azam_fan]

#1 I don’t know what “current” here means

I’d take last 2 years.

Warner
Rohit
Smith *
Kohli
Butler +
Stokes
Shakib
Ashwin / Woakes
Starc
Boult
Shami


Babar is a good player, no doubt. But he’s competing with Kohli, Smith, Williamson, Buttler and Stokes in the middle order.

-Buttler is the best keeper (who can bat lower)
-Stokes is the best AR
-Smith is Smith
-Kohli is Kohli

Even Williamson couldn’t make it to the 11

 

[Mobashir]

Yes now rankings are important but when Kohli was ranked above de Villiers in ODIs and T20Is, you “didn’t care” about rankings because you wanted to prove that de Villiers is better.

Babar is one of the top batsmen in the world for sure but he is by no means the best all-format batsman in the world at the moment.

Everyone is loving and seeing how good he is not just because he is quality but also because Pakistan is a woeful team and no other Pakistani batsman is close to him and he is levels above all of them.

It is easy for a great player to stand out in a poor team because he does not have to share the spotlight with anyone.

If Babar was Indian he would be in the shadows of Kohli and Rohit and he would not have the status that he enjoys today. Similarly, if Rohit was in Pakistan, he would be a bigger deal because he is a better LOIs opener than anyone we have ever produced.

In India, he is still a huge deal but he shares the spotlight with Kohli.

Babar is the first proper all-format batsman Pakistan has produced since Mohammad Yousuf in the late 90’s. That is the level and state of Pakistani batting. Other countries produce all-format batsmen every 3-4 years.

The rankings are not everything and yes being in front in the rankings is not enough to mean you are better.
I said and still say ABDV is a level above any other player in limited overs cricket. But didn't compared Kohli to nobodies.
Yoi, in other threads, with your ifs and buts, have said the following are better or at the same level as Babar : Rahul, Agarwal, Iyer, Shaw, Gill.
These guys, so far, are no bodies compared to Babar Azam.

 

[Robert]

All-format sides are silly. The England side that won the WC had just five regular test players, and of them Buttler shouldn’t be playing tests IMO.

 

[thelandofthebravepeople]

He picked only 10 players?

 

[happydavy]

I should add that Mark Nicholas is one of my favorite commentators. I don’t listen to commentary for technical insights and knowledge because I trust my own judgement, so for me commentary is about entertainment and excitement which is why I enjoy listening to him and Rameez.

But if I want a proper cricket discussion then he would be the last person that I would listen to in spite of playing County cricket for nearly two decades.

On the other hand, someone like Harsha who has never played professionally has a lot of insight to offer because he has great attention to detail and will not do blunders such as pick a player for an all-format world XI who hasn’t played in 2 out of 3 formats since 2017.

He is a genuine cricket aficionado and spends time studying the game unlike Nicholas who learned to play the game himself without really understanding it.

Left to Harsha, his current XI would have 8 indians including Kohli, Dhoni and Tendulkar. Harsha's day job is to suck up to Indian cricketers, he provides zero insight into cricket except for getting emotional about every small little thing. Year after year he will try to play up 4-5 cricketers in IPL under some rag to riches story, and will then add "that's the beauty of IPL". As a commentator, he's gotten worse. He's more of a presenter rather than commentator.

 

[hitthestump]

Even in ODIs he has a grand total of 3 centuries against teams not named Zimbabwe, West Indies, or Sri Lanka (and not the Sangakarra/Mahela/Murali SL, the new one that has zero stars).

And even 2 of these 3 centuries came of absolutely flat tracks where his team lost on both occasions because even a score like 340 wasn't enough.

As I mentioned earlier, Babar is a good batsman but there are several ODI batsmen better than him.

Yep. Babar certainly looks a class above when he's in the middle, especially in t20's where he's been beastly. But the stats don't really match up in other formats (yet) so for the time being there's no reason he should be included unless its a world XI of the prettiest stroke players.

When Babar scores a few daddy hundreds against good opposition then we can talk about his all format skills.

Babar has never scored a daddy hundred in test matches against anyone yet.

 

[Thomaskutty]

Mark Nicholas gave his all format current world XI last week.
Here is his XI :
David Warner
Quinton de Kock
Babar Azam
Ben Stokes
Kane Williamson
Jos Buttler
R Ashwin
Jofra Archer
Kagiso Rabada
Jasprit Bumrah.

Not bad. I like this team. I'd just make one substitution where I switch out Babar Azam for Sanju Samson, the latter whom I think will announce himself on the big stage with the bat very soon. Top fielder too. I am sure [MENTION=2016]Rana[/MENTION] will agree with me.

 

[BreadPakoda]

Yep. Babar certainly looks a class above when he's in the middle, especially in t20's where he's been beastly. But the stats don't really match up in other formats (yet) so for the time being there's no reason he should be included unless its a world XI of the prettiest stroke players.

When Babar scores a few daddy hundreds against good opposition then we can talk about his all format skills.

Babar has never scored a daddy hundred in test matches against anyone yet.

Totally agree. His strokeplay is top tier. Just needs to prove himself against the top oppositions.

 

[Ab Fan]

All format XI of decade 2010-2019:-

Hashim Amla
David Warner
Steve Smith
Virat Kohli(c)
AB de Villiers
Ben Stokes
MS Dhoni(wkt)
Ravi Ashwin/Ravindra Jadeja
Mitchell Johnson
Dale Steyn
James Anderson

12th man- Shakib Al Hasan

 

[tyron_woodley]

All format XI of decade 2010-2019:-

Hashim Amla
David Warner
Steve Smith
Virat Kohli(c)
AB de Villiers
Ben Stokes
MS Dhoni(wkt)
Ravi Ashwin/Ravindra Jadeja
Mitchell Johnson
Dale Steyn
James Anderson

12th man- Shakib Al Hasan

No to Johnson. Rabada or Shami are better. I know on PP they may score at it but record suggest otherwise.

 

[Ab Fan]

No to Johnson. Rabada or Shami are better. I know on PP they may score at it but record suggest otherwise.

I will go with Trent Boult or Mohammad Shami. They had more full-fledged decade and were successful in both formats.

Rabada debuted in 2016 and Johnson retired in 2015.

 

[Mamoon]

He picked only 10 players?

Yes just noticed.

So not only did he pick 10 players, he also picked Ashwin who has not played a single ODI or T20I since 2017.

)

As I said, he is a clueless clown with zero cricket knowledge and acumen. Nothing more than the English Rameez Raja.

And [MENTION=43051]Mobashir[/MENTION] thought the World ‘ten’ of this guy merits a thread and a discussion because he picked Babar at number 3 ahead of Kohli.

This thread has backfired spectacularly.

 

[Raja111]

On current form , Rohit Sharma should have been there ahead of everyone else as he has scored 7 ODI centuries in his last 17 innings at an average of 70 and 3 Test centuries in his last 7 test innings at an average of 90.

 

[Mobashir]

Understable Kohli is not here. He really just looks out of form.
That was such a poor innings. 30 odd balls without hitting a boundary has cost india the match.
A kind of acceleration for the stats when the RRR was out of reach.

 

[Mamoon]

Understable Kohli is not here. He really just looks out of form.
That was such a poor innings. 30 odd balls without hitting a boundary has cost india the match.
A kind of acceleration for the stats when the RRR was out of reach.

Who is the 11th player in the clown’s World ten?

We cannot say if Kohli is not there or not because if Mark Nicholas wasn’t an idiot, he would have double-checked and realized that he only put 10 players there.

Considering he already picked 5 bowling options, I think he would go for a batsman to complete his world XI, most probably Kohli.

 

[topspin]

The only reason you created this thread is because he put Babar ahead of Kohli.

Please don’t try to mask your intentions by feigning your interest and concern over the other selections because you don’t care about them.

You would have never created this thread if he would picked Kohli ahead of Babar.

Precisely this.

The OP's views on both are well known on the forum.

A toxic thread by a toxic Babar fan boy who also happens to be a Kohli hater.

 

[Mobashir]

Who is the 11th player in the clown’s World ten?

We cannot say if Kohli is not there or not because if Mark Nicholas wasn’t an idiot, he would have double-checked and realized that he only put 10 players there.

Considering he already picked 5 bowling options, I think he would go for a batsman to complete his world XI, most probably Kohli.

Waiting to read your essay on how criminal is to make a 41 ball 50 without a boundary for 28 consecutive balls in such a big chase...
Don't forget to mention me in that post, so I don't miss it!

 

[Mobashir]

Precisely this.

The OP's views on both are well known on the forum.

A toxic thread by a toxic Babar fan boy who also happens to be a Kohli hater.

Exactly; I don't share every news, I was happy for a pakistani to be in the team so I shared it. If Babar wasn't in the team I would most certainly not shared it.
What's wrong with it?

 

[Mesozoic]

Lololololool...I just realized he named only ten. )


Makes this "world XI" that much more funny.

 

[topspin]

Exactly; I don't share every news, I was happy for a pakistani to be in the team so I shared it. If Babar wasn't in the team I would most certainly not shared it.
What's wrong with it?

Look Mark Nicholas is a fine commentator but when it comes to his analysis he has no credibility. This is very much evident by the fact that he opted for Williamson and Babar over Smith and Kohli.

Not to also forget that he also came up with 10 players in a "World XI".

All you've done is expose Mark Nicholas for how inept he is when it comes to analysing cricket.

 

[Hasan123]

You can't take this seriously as he only named 10 players anyway.

 

[Ab Fan]

Exactly; I don't share every news, I was happy for a pakistani to be in the team so I shared it. If Babar wasn't in the team I would most certainly not shared it.
What's wrong with it?

Does this team even has a 11th name or not? This is comical stuff )

 

[Rana]

From ESPN croci do, the Mark Nicholas all format XI:

1.David Warner
2. Quinton DeQock
3. Babar Azam
4. Ben Stokes
5. Kane Williamson
6. Jos Butler
7. Ravi Ashwin
8. Rashid Khan
9. Jofra Archer
10. Kagiso Rabada
11. Jasprit Bumrah

I count XI. Can we take him seriously now [MENTION=141114]Hasan123[/MENTION] ?

 

[Mobashir]

From ESPN croci do, the Mark Nicholas all format XI:

1.David Warner
2. Quinton DeQock
3. Babar Azam
4. Ben Stokes
5. Kane Williamson
6. Jos Butler
7. Ravi Ashwin
8. Rashid Khan
9. Jofra Archer
10. Kagiso Rabada
11. Jasprit Bumrah

I count XI. Can we take him seriously now [MENTION=141114]Hasan123[/MENTION] ?

You could have let the fun continue. No one cared to verify or think that maybe I made a mistake. They just wanted to discredit Mark Nicholas for not outing their favorite player.
Kohli is clearly out of form and don't deserve it. The way he played today was criminal, haven't seen this in a T20 before.

 

[Mobashir]

@mods if you can edit the opening post and ad Rashid Khan in it.

Even I don't agree with all his choices. People think I am telling them to agree with every word that comes from Nicholas.

 

[Mesozoic]

Rashid Khan in all format XI?

Now I'm pretty sure Nicholas is just trolling around.

 

[Rana]

You could have let the fun continue. No one cared to verify or think that maybe I made a mistake. They just wanted to discredit Mark Nicholas for not outing their favorite player.
Kohli is clearly out of form and don't deserve it. The way he played today was criminal, haven't seen this in a T20 before.

Fikr Na Kar mere bhai. Aik aik ko rulaoon ga

 

[Mobashir]

Fikr Na Kar mere bhai. Aik aik ko rulaoon ga

But you shouldn't have mentionned Hasan123, he can't think by himslef, he has to follow fellow indians as, "as a nation india knows much more about batting than him".

 

[Mamoon]

So turns out that the 11th player in Mark the Clown’s “all format” team is Rashid Khan, the man with a grand total of 4 Tests under his belt.

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This gets better and better.

 

[Mobashir]

So turns out that the 11th player in Mark the Clown’s “all format” team is Rashid Khan, the man with a grand total of 4 Tests under his belt.

)

This gets better and better.

Nervous laughing detected!
Tell me nah where is long write up about how bad was Kohli's innings today?

 

[Mamoon]

Nervous laughing detected!
Tell me nah where is long write up about how bad was Kohli's innings today?

Nervous? This joke “all format XI” is pure comic relief. It has zero credibility.

So what if Kohli’s innings wasn’t one of his best ever? He has nothing to prove to anyone and he can retire today and he will forever be remembered as one of the greatest of all time.

The fact that today’s innings is considered “bad” shows how high the standards he has established.

Babar needs to take inspiration and set similar standards for himself. Unfortunately, his delusional fans are not helping his cause when they call him the best batsman in the world when he has only 1 Test century away from home so far.

 

[Rana]

But you shouldn't have mentionned Hasan123, he can't think by himslef, he has to follow fellow indians as, "as a nation india knows much more about batting than him".

Hasan123 tou aik thread bump ki maar hai.

)

 

[Mobashir]

Nervous? This joke “all format XI” is pure comic relief. It has zero credibility.

So what if Kohli’s innings wasn’t one of his best ever? He has nothing to prove to anyone and he can retire today and he will forever be remembered as one of the greatest of all time.

The fact that today’s innings is considered “bad” shows how high the standards he has established.

Babar needs to take inspiration and set similar standards for himself. Unfortunately, his delusional fans are not helping his cause when they call him the best batsman in the world when he has only 1 Test century away from home so far.

It wasn't bad for Kohli's standard, it was a match loosing innings, full stop!
Whoever played that innings, that was poor.

 

[UzmanBeast]

I should add that Mark Nicholas is one of my favorite commentators. I don’t listen to commentary for technical insights and knowledge because I trust my own judgement, so for me commentary is about entertainment and excitement which is why I enjoy listening to him and Rameez.

But if I want a proper cricket discussion then he would be the last person that I would listen to in spite of playing County cricket for nearly two decades.

On the other hand, someone like Harsha who has never played professionally has a lot of insight to offer because he has great attention to detail and will not do blunders such as pick a player for an all-format world XI who hasn’t played in 2 out of 3 formats since 2017.

He is a genuine cricket aficionado and spends time studying the game unlike Nicholas who learned to play the game himself without really understanding it.

Completely agree, Harsha is my favourite commentator.

The team selection was poor, I myself don't believe that a team can be made without Kohli even if it is on the basis of current form.

He will win you matches, he is a gun player. And he's in good form on this tour of Australia as well, so I think that he's shut his critics up for the time being.

 

[Mamoon]

It wasn't bad for Kohli's standard, it was a match loosing innings, full stop!
Whoever played that innings, that was poor.

Cricket is not so simplistic. Not every innings can be categorized as match-winning or match-losing. It is not always black and white.

Kohli played a good innings and kept India in the game until the penultimate over even though all other batsmen failed. It would have been a brilliant innings had he taken India home, but it was not a match-losing innings by any means.

He was by far the best Indian batsman on show today. A valiant effort.

 

[Mamoon]

Completely agree, Harsha is my favourite commentator.

The team selection was poor, I myself don't believe that a team can be made without Kohli even if it is on the basis of current form.

He will win you matches, he is a gun player. And he's in good form on this tour of Australia as well, so I think that he's shut his critics up for the time being.

Harsha can name more Pakistani domestic players than Rameez. He takes his passion and job seriously and spends time looking at stats of different players etc.

Mark Nicholas and Rameez etc. are just entertainers.

 

[Rana]

All this after Kohli was dropped by Smith on the boundary when he was on 3-4 runs maybe.

Tbf Kohli player well and it should have been enough to get India over the line of one more player stepped up with him. But even besides this innings, what is clear is that Smith and Kohli are just ok in this format at least at international level. Babar Azam will be the same in 2-3 years as well but Babar may shine, survive longer as a star T20i player because we do not know if batsmen like Haider Ali, Abdullah Shafiq and Azam Khan will overshadow him as proper T20 batsmen. It is hard to say really.

From the IPL itself, Surya Kumar Yadav and Ishan Kishan are more deserving of a spot in the Indian side, that too at No.3 before Kohli.