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He has to take some blame today. One can't send Pollard & Imad at 6/7, that too behind Sanga, Malik & Bopara. This wasn't the 1st game of PSL - he sent Maik & Bopara ahead of Pollar in 10th match, after these two were almost absent in this tournament.

May be Pollard at 4 & Imad at 6 would have won it today.
 
MMHS said:
He has to take some blame today. One can't send Pollard & Imad at 6/7, that too behind Sanga, Malik & Bopara. This wasn't the 1st game of PSL - he sent Maik & Bopara ahead of Pollar in 10th match, after these two were almost absent in this tournament.

May be Pollard at 4 & Imad at 6 would have won it today.
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Bopara failed to play 1 impressive knock, yet he played every single match.
Bopara is a bigger flop than Gayle, Gayle at least played 1 good knock against Islamabad in playoff.
Hasan Mohsin was not even given 1 game to prove his worth.
Amir was very inconsistent and they did not even think about dropping him.
etc etc.
Pathetic selection and policies.
 
Citizen4 said:
only a couple of games. the other 9 games were pathetic.
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Can't fault the coach when the body language of the players was off.

In games where they leaked runs they seemed timid for some reason. It always took a yelling from someone to bring them up. In today's game it was a similar story. Not sure why they failed when they had so many big names.
 
Citizen4 said:
going all the way home
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It is a good team that took some time to get going, but unfortunately they ran into us and we are the best team in the league. I don't think they would have lost the final to Quetta.
 
Mamoon said:
It is a good team that took some time to get going, but unfortunately they ran into us and we are the best team in the league. I don't think they would have lost the final to Quetta.
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Win a final without Sanga as there captain? Are you kidding me?
 
Mamoon said:
It is a good team that took some time to get going, but unfortunately they ran into us and we are the best team in the league. I don't think they would have lost the final to Quetta.
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what logic thells you that they would not have lost to Quetta ? they are yet to win a single match against Quetta in the PSL history, Look it up learn some history.

Now before you say that Quetta's foreign players are not coming, Quetta will get decent players again, Levi will most likely be selected to play as an opener, he holds the record for the fastest international t20 100 (full member nations), other good players like Josh Cobb, Van Wyk, Doeschatte, Emrit etc are available too

Zalmi is the most inconsistent batting line up, prone to collapses. Won't be surprised if they collapse against hard working and street smart Quetta.

Underestimate them at your own peril

You are entitled to your opinion
 
Zohaib Shah said:
Can't fault the coach when the body language of the players was off.

In games where they leaked runs they seemed timid for some reason. It always took a yelling from someone to bring them up. In today's game it was a similar story. Not sure why they failed when they had so many big names.
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coach decides the starting line up
and his selections were awful, even the batting positions.
That alone cost them a few games, experimenting eith the batting line up, and experiment failed.
 
Citizen4 said:
coach decides the starting line up
and his selections were awful, even the batting positions.
That alone cost them a few games, experimenting eith the batting line up, and experiment failed.
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Lets look at the pool of players they had:

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[td]Babar Azam[/td]
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[td]Chris Gayle [/td]
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[td]Kumar Sangakkara (c)[/td]
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[td]Shoaib Malik [/td]
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[td]Ravi Bopara[/td]
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[td]Kieron Pollard[/td]
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[td] Imad Wasim[/td]
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[td]Sohail Khan[/td]
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[td] Mohammad Amir[/td]
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[td]Usama Mir[/td]
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[tr]
[td]Usman Khan[/td]
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[tr]
[td] Ryan McLaren[/td]
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[td]Shahzaib Hasan[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Saifullah Bangash[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Khurram Manzoor[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Kashif Bhatti[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Abrar Ahmed[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Abdul Hameed[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Mahela Jayawardene[/td]
[/tr]

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[td]Rahat Ali[/td]
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[td]Amad Alam[/td]
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The bold is the batting line up they went with.

If you look at the pool of players they had I would say this is the best possible lineup they could go for. The only player I would wanna add is Mahela. His place would only available as a opener. Which Chris Gayle is made for. Now as a coach he did his best to pick the right line up. His players not delivering is a whole other story.
 
Zohaib Shah said:
Lets look at the pool of players they had:

[table="width: 500"]
[tr]
[td]Babar Azam[/td]
[/tr]

[tr]
[td]Chris Gayle [/td]
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[tr]
[td]Kumar Sangakkara (c)[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Shoaib Malik [/td]
[/tr]

[tr]
[td]Ravi Bopara[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Kieron Pollard[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td] Imad Wasim[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Sohail Khan[/td]
[/tr]

[tr]
[td] Mohammad Amir[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Usama Mir[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Usman Khan[/td]
[/tr]


[tr]
[td] Ryan McLaren[/td]
[/tr]

[tr]
[td]Shahzaib Hasan[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Saifullah Bangash[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Khurram Manzoor[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Kashif Bhatti[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Abrar Ahmed[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Abdul Hameed[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Mahela Jayawardene[/td]
[/tr]

[tr]
[td]Rahat Ali[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Amad Alam[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]

The bold is the batting line up they went with.

If you look at the pool of players they had I would say this is the best possible lineup they could go for. The only player I would wanna add is Mahela. His place would only available as a opener. Which Chris Gayle is made for. Now as a coach he did his best to pick the right line up. His players not delivering is a whole other story.
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When your players aren't delivering, you as a coach try giving them different atmosphere. That here means changing the batting order.

Can't blame Pollard, Bopara or Imad who were mostly left to do damage control. With Gayle in hibernation mode, Sanga should have been asked to swap position with Imad/Bopara.

MA hasn't been effective here and we can't argue over quality of resources he had at his disposal in PSL. Nevertheless, Eliminator against PZ was lost by bowlers. With national team, Sarfaraz is the big change now that MA gets. Let's see what happens next.

MA still has my vote for establishing Babar at #3.
 
Shazaib should have played instead of gayle or bopara and imad played too low.
 
Sack coming soon as far as KK is concerned
 
Slog said:
Sack coming soon as far as KK is concerned
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Loses one game and you comment straight away.

Me, [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION], and [MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION] are still awaiting your response as to why tactical genius Waqar can't get a coaching role with any PSL franchise. :danish
 
Hasan123 said:
Loses one game and you comment straight away.

Me, [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION], and [MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION] are still awaiting your response as to why tactical genius Waqar can't get a coaching role with any PSL franchise. :danish
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I must have missed the post.

I guess when this charlatan gets sacked he may come in if he's interested...

But he isnt some money grabbing leech who goes off from one franchise to another for a quick buck so maybe not
 
Slog said:
I must have missed the post.

I guess when this charlatan gets sacked he may come in if he's interested...

But he isnt some money grabbing leech who goes off from one franchise to another for a quick buck so maybe not
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Lol so Arthur isn't allowed to coach more than 1 team? :misbah

No one wants Waqar as a coach. The rest of the world has seen him tactically as a coach and captain and realized he isn't upto the mark.
 
Get Rid of Mickey Arthur!

I have nothing against Mickey and I am sure that he is probably a fantastic Coach for some other country.

He has now been given enough chance to prove himself and there is no improvment which means Coaching at the National Level is not the issue, sack him and save the money!

  1. Get a Ranjhi Trophy Batting Coach (or even 2) from India and let them work with PAK Junior Batsmen
  2. Get some Junior level Bowling Coach from anyhere who is competent and let him work with Bowlers at Junior Level....Get the basics right

Retain Grant Flower as a Batting Coach and the Fielding Coach. Get someone decent as Bowling Coach and just give PAK a few years to re-emerge...Get any tea drinker as National Coach because it doesn't seem to matter

I understand that its Mickey's job to back players but what does he see in Shehzad and Moha which nobody else can?

We are just throwing money at him. He couldn't prove himself at PSL either
 
Give him a young team without TTFS and you'll see his affect.

You can't improve rubbish like Wahab, Hafeez,Tanvir,etc no matter who you are. Young players who want to learn and have a positive attitude can be improved.

But we keep picking these TTFS
 
No Indian coach can, nor will be allowed to work for Pakistan. And anyway, why'd they want the hassle ? They actually work for a professional board and a fully functioning domestic system.

As for Mickey, we were making some progress until the bans of Sharjeel, Latif and Shahzaib. We whitewashed WI 6-0 in LOIs in UAE, we were crossing 300 more regularly, chased 300 in Cardiff and had introduced youngsters into the team.

The bans have cost us dearly as those three were our most attacking and explosive hitters we had.

We need to drop trio of Kamran, Shehzad and Hafeez and look at domestic cricket for some hitters. Awais Zia, Ahsan Ali, Hussain Talat and maybe Shahzaib Hasan if his case is cleared. I don't know if he's actually accused of any wrongdoing, my impression was that he was a whistleblower. I would also consider Saad Ali.
 
If someone brings up Waqar again [:))] they should be banned from this thread...:P

I guess people are still aching for the 90's and their heroes turned out-of-touch coaches.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Does anyone ever consider maybe it's just the players who aren't that good?
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If that's the case then why was he brought anyway?

Might as well play without a coach and save hundreds of thousands of dollars every year
 
The players are ineffective. End of.

No amount of coaching can fix these duds.
 
Mickey is a joke coach.

the guy grumbles, causes problems with players (has done it with his former teams) and does nothing but put his own team(s) down.

He is a man child.
 
Slog said:
If that's the case then why was he brought anyway?

Might as well play without a coach and save hundreds of thousands of dollars every year
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If we did that, then there would be uproar on how we have given up despite having so much 'talunt' at our disposal.
 
dildildalwalla said:
Mickey is a joke coach.

the guy grumbles, causes problems with players (has done it with his former teams) and does nothing but put his own team(s) down.

He is a man child.
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Yes, blame the coach if all else fails.
 
in_cutter said:
Yes, blame the coach if all else fails.
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Not really true. I'm talking about Mickey's man management here. He probably has more feuds in cricket than allies. He has alreday made several comments which are detrimental the dressing room in the last few months and is constantly swearing and berating his players. Maybe you don't know about him as a coach but he has been like that where ever he has been coach and it has not helped him.

Pakistan have done well under him so my issue isn't the results, it's the fact that he will be al ong term disaster for the team. He had problems with cricket SA, he had problems within the Aussie set up and before long we'll be hearing about problems within the Pak set up. It's his character.
 
fault of selector and coach .... Inzo cant see beyon kami and shahzad then micky comes out and openly says they are both good openers
Sarfraz playing at 6 cant understand any logic .
 
Fakhar, Fahim, Zakir, Asghar, all going back home without playing even 1 ODI in WI :danish

What is this?!:sk
 
Citizen4 said:
Fakhar, Fahim, Zakir, Asghar, all going back home without playing even 1 ODI in WI :danish

What is this?!:sk
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Zakir is the only one who is hard done by. He is 33 years old and at an ideal age for a Pakistani cricketers to debut. The rest have to wait 10 years before they are old enough to debut.
 
Syed1 said:
Zakir is the only one who is hard done by. He is 33 years old and at an ideal age for a Pakistani cricketers to debut. The rest have to wait 10 years before they are old enough to debut.
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bhai Umar Akmal and Azhar Ali will be back for CT, reports coming in:danish
 
Ineffective coach wins us our first ever Test series in the Caribbean.
 
How about westindies past team Sir?? credit must be given to pak team and management instaed of comparing..!!!
 
Noman said:
LOL Any past pak team Would have won over This wi under 4 days
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Because of Mickey our team is fitter, leaner, sharper in the field and more focused. Players are using their brains.

He is a million times better than any other Pakistani coach through history.
 
Guy has all the right ideas. For tests too, he was so vocal about the fifth bowling option initially.

Lets see what direction we take in his 2nd year as coach. Sarfraz does promise exciting times, and Mickey should facilitate that
 
To be honest, Mickey's real test is starting now that there is no Misbah and Younis around, now we are going to see him impose himself more.
 
Savak said:
To be honest, Mickey's real test is starting now that there is no Misbah and Younis around, now we are going to see him impose himself more.
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Allah khair karay

So this horror last year with him was the good time and now it's a test for him?
 
Slog said:
Allah khair karay

So this horror last year with him was the good time and now it's a test for him?
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First Pakistan coach to ever win a Test series in the Caribbean.

I'll take this supposed "horror" over some of the stuff that was served up by his predecessors.
 
Markhor said:
First Pakistan coach to ever win a Test series in the Caribbean.

I'll take this supposed "horror" over some of the stuff that was served up by his predecessors.
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First Pakistani coach to lose in NZ after 31 years. The thing is you cannot just accept the victories and brush the defeats under the carpet. I guess it was Waqar's fault they they lost in NZ, right?
 
Syed1 said:
First Pakistani coach to lose in NZ after 31 years. The thing is you cannot just accept the victories and brush the defeats under the carpet. I guess it was Waqar's fault they they lost in NZ, right?
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We had no practice matches before the NZ series thanks to rain and PCB ineptitude in failing to clear the schedule to allow for more preparation time.

How can I give you an exam if you don't have any revision materials ?

As for breaking records, we NEVER lost in Bangladesh let alone getting whitewashed but we did thanks to the Alex Ferguson of Pak cricket but I never hear any criticism for that.

There is only ONE Pak coach who has to his name our first ever Test series win in WI in 59 years. If Arthur is to blame for our defeats, then you must give him credit for our victories by the same token.
 
Syed1 said:
First Pakistani coach to lose in NZ after 31 years. The thing is you cannot just accept the victories and brush the defeats under the carpet. I guess it was Waqar's fault they they lost in NZ, right?
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Yes, there was no captain on the tours to Australia and NZ right?
 
Markhor said:
We had no practice matches before the NZ series thanks to rain and PCB ineptitude in failing to clear the schedule to allow for more preparation time.

How can I give you an exam if you don't have any revision materials ?

As for breaking records, we NEVER lost in Bangladesh let alone getting whitewashed but we did thanks to the Alex Ferguson of Pak cricket but I never hear any criticism for that.

There is only ONE Pak coach who has to his name our first ever Test series win in WI in 59 years. If Arthur is to blame for our defeats, then you must give him credit for our victories by the same token.
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Excuses excuses

This West Indies team was trash. But well done! We barely got over the line against that sorry lot.

People will remember it for YK and Misbahs farewell

The simple fact is that Waqar Younis never got whitewashed against any side.

Arthur got whitewashed twice in a row. The 2-1 wins which we barely sneaked in were against the 8th ranked team
 
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Also the reason you don't see people criticising the Bangladesh 3-0 is because of your bias that's it. It's literally brought up every week when Arthur's cucks bring that up whenever Arthur's pathetic record is highlighted. It's been more than a year. Get over it and judge Arthur
 
Slog said:
Excuses excuses

This West Indies team was trash. But well done! We barely got over the line against that sorry lot.

People will remember it for YK and Misbahs farewell

The simple fact is that Waqar Younis never got whitewashed against any side.

Arthur got whitewashed twice in a row. The 2-1 wins which we barely sneaked in were against the 8th ranked team
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WI are not a trash team, they have some very promising youngsters like Roston Chase, Shai Hope, Alzarri Joseph and Shimron Hetmyer.

Dominica Test wouldn't have been as close as it transpired if Hasan Ali hadn't dropped Chase twice, Abbas overstepping on a wicket and a poor umpiring decision. Shannon Gabriel was clearly out from an edge an hour before he eventually was bowled by Yasir, but umpires bungled the decision..

We beat WI comfortably in UAE in Dubai and Abu Dhabi. WI were never going to chase 350+ in that day night Test so it wasn't as close as you're making out. As for Waqar never being whitewashed - that's because he never stepped out of his UAE comfort zone - he would've received the same beatings on these tough tours believe me.

Anyway these are the FACTS:

2011 - West Indies 1-1 Pakistan under Waqar.
2017 - West Indies 1-2 Pakistan under Arthur. Deal with it :ma
 
Markhor said:
WI are not a trash team, they have some very promising youngsters like Roston Chase, Shai Hope, Alzarri Joseph and Shimron Hetmyer.

Dominica Test wouldn't have been as close as it transpired if Hasan Ali hadn't dropped Chase twice, Abbas overstepping on a wicket and a poor umpiring decision. Shannon Gabriel was clearly out from an edge an hour before he eventually was bowled by Yasir, but umpires bungled the decision..

We beat WI comfortably in UAE in Dubai and Abu Dhabi. WI were never going to chase 350+ in that day night Test so it wasn't as close as you're making out. As for Waqar never being whitewashed - that's because he never stepped out of his UAE comfort zone - he would've received the same beatings on these tough tours believe me.

Anyway these are the FACTS:

2011 - West Indies 1-1 Pakistan under Waqar.
2017 - West Indies 1-2 Pakistan under Arthur. Deal with it :ma
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:))
The only thing you gotta deal with is that Mickey Arthur is the man who has the worst losing streak in the history of Pakistan coaches. It's not that he's worse than Waqar. He's got the worse streak than any coach in the country's existence
 
And West Indies are a trash team. By most cricketing metric. Check the ranking and the gap between them and the others

In 4 tests India was not once in any pressure of losing a match
 
Mickey hasn't been as good as Waqar; But this WI team that Arthur lost to is not trash. They are improving and not easy to beat.
 
Rayyman said:
Mickey hasn't been as good as Waqar; But this WI team that Arthur lost to is not trash. They are improving and not easy to beat.
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But you know what the best thing is.

The excuses are already lined up.

Having Misbah and Younis go finally allows Mickey to mild his own team but at the same time any poor performance in the future will be down to not having them whilst others did. As if Mickey conquered some Everests with these two in the side
 
Slog said:
:))
The only thing you gotta deal with is that Mickey Arthur is the man who has the worst losing streak in the history of Pakistan coaches. It's not that he's worse than Waqar. He's got the worse streak than any coach in the country's existence
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Schedule tours as tough as the ones to New Zealand and Australia back to back with virtually no preparation time and such streaks will happen.

You call the NZ team average but anyone with an iota of cricketing knowledge knows Boult, Southee and Wagner, on those green lawns, would've been difficult to handle for ANY Asian team. ALL Asian teams have lost in NZ recently. Waqar wouldn't have magically taught our batsmem how to play lateral movement.

As for Australia whitewash - join the queue. Which Pakistan coach hasn't lost there ?

But if you want to talk about the history books - I repeat Mickey Arthur is the ONLY Pakistan coach who can claim to have won a Test series in the Caribbean in 59 years. I know that fact causes SERIOUS burning for certain folks. Strength of the WI team is irrelevant, you can only play what's in front of you.
 
BTW what's with this notion that you mustn't compare Arthur with Waqar ?

Don't Man Utd fans compare Mourinho to their previous managers in Van Gaal and Moyes in order to gauge his success ? Don't Man City fans compare Guardiola to Pellegrini ?

When Waqar has here, we compared his record to Whatmore. When Whatmore was here we compared him to Waqar's first tenure and Mohsin. It is perfectly natural.
 
Markhor said:
Schedule tours as tough as the ones to New Zealand and Australia back to back with virtually no preparation time and such streaks will happen.

You call the NZ team average but anyone with an iota of cricketing knowledge knows Boult, Southee and Wagner, on those green lawns, would've been difficult to handle for ANY Asian team. ALL Asian teams have lost in NZ recently. Waqar wouldn't have magically taught our batsmem how to play lateral movement.

As for Australia whitewash - join the queue. Which Pakistan coach hasn't lost there ?

But if you want to talk about the history books - I repeat Mickey Arthur is the ONLY Pakistan coach who can claim to have won a Test series in the Caribbean in 59 years. I know that fact causes SERIOUS burning for certain folks. Strength of the WI team is irrelevant, you can only play what's in front of you.
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And people will remember the strength of this 8th ranked shambles of a team which has dozens of its top players in Ipl

Mickeys record of being the man with the worst losing streak in history of Pakistan cricket will be there. You don't think we've been dealt worse hands before in 70 years :))

Which one is he more proud of though? This or having record of conceding 400+ scores in ODIs twice and also having record of conceding the highest ODI score in history?
 
Markhor said:
BTW what's with this notion that you mustn't compare Arthur with Waqar ?

Don't Man Utd fans compare Mourinho to their previous managers in Van Gaal and Moyes in order to gauge his success ? Don't Man City fans compare Guardiola to Pellegrini ?

When Waqar has here, we compared his record to Whatmore. When Whatmore was here we compared him to Waqar's first tenure and Mohsin. It is perfectly natural.
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It's just an excuse.

It's not just comparing. For Arthur's cucks it's Waqars fault whenever we lose but Arthur's genius when we win.

Also it depends on time. First three months was fine. But now the standard MO is that someone says, "Arthur has this new embarassment to his name." And the reply is "Well Waqar lost to Bangladesh 3-0" that's not comparing. That's just pathetic excuses and deflection

Waqars whole freakin tenure was sth like 20 months lol
 
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Slog said:
And people will remember the strength of this 8th ranked shambles of a team which has dozens of its top players in Ipl

Mickeys record of being the man with the worst losing streak in history of Pakistan cricket will be there. You don't think we've been dealt worse hands before in 70 years :))

Which one is he more proud of though? This or having record of conceding 400+ scores in ODIs twice and also having record of conceding the highest ODI score in history?
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Nope, these are WI's best Test players. Gayle, hacks like Pollard, or T20 specialists like Simmons and Dwayne Bravo had little impact on WI's decline when they were playing Test cricket anyway.
 
Markhor said:
Nope, these are WI's best Test players. Gayle, hacks like Pollard, or T20 specialists like Simmons and Dwayne Bravo had little impact on WI's decline when they were playing Test cricket anyway.
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And these are bog average players.

We can discuss their mediocrity in a year and see how far they've progressed
 
aliasad1998 said:
This is a strong West Indies unit with inexperienced players.
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We'll see how strong this team is in 18 month

In the past three series they have been competitive in 2 and been played out of the park in the other one where they would have likely lost 4-0, and certainly 3-0, if not for rain. The 2 were against Pakistan.
 
Markhor said:
Nope, these are WI's best Test players. Gayle, hacks like Pollard, or T20 specialists like Simmons and Dwayne Bravo had little impact on WI's decline when they were playing Test cricket anyway.
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Btw Darren bravo and Samuels (in IPL) would walk into this side
 
Slog said:
Btw Darren bravo and Samuels (in IPL) would walk into this side
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Samuels hasn't been performing in Tests for a long time and has been deservedly dropped.

BTW IPL issue existed in 2011 too - Chris Gayle, Jerome Taylor, Dwayne Bravo and a few others did not play in the WI Test series that Waqar drew.
 
Markhor said:
Samuels hasn't been performing in Tests for a long time and has been deservedly dropped.

BTW IPL issue existed in 2011 too - Chris Gayle, Jerome Taylor, Dwayne Bravo and a few others did not play in the WI Test series that Waqar drew.
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It was a 2 match series. After 2 matches here we were 1-1 as well

And we all know what pitch we got served in the 1st test and with no YK and a dud keeper (Salman). Also seriously you can't argue that this lot was better than the 2011 one with Sarwam, Chanderpaul, Simmons etc

But yeah Ill hold him accountable for that how I hold Woolmer accountable for 2005
 
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Apparently he has called for Abbas to replace Shadab.

What a disgrace of a coach.

:salute
Thank You Mickey
 
Rayyman said:
Apparently he has called for Abbas to replace Shadab.

What a disgrace of a coach.

:salute
Thank You Mickey
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I don't know if it's going to happen, but his hate for Sohail Khan is appalling.
 
Rayyman said:
Apparently he has called for Abbas to replace Shadab.

What a disgrace of a coach.

:salute
Thank You Mickey
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He's a disaster overall but this decision may have some logic in terms of bringing Abbas in. Even though his domestic record and the nature of one day matches these days suggests that a phainty is very possible but it's also possible that having seen him in the Carribean he can offer utility to the team

However shadab is an exciting youngster and Adil Rashid has definitely shown that leggies can have a huge impact on one day matches in England these days. So letting Shadab go would be a bit of a thick decision on his part in more ways than one. (Destroying a promising youngsters confidence and dropping a potentially good bowler)
 
Hasan123 said:
Can anyone actually prove that it's Mickey that wants Shadab dropped for Abbas?
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Well folks can only comment on reports

We'll know in a couple of days. If it happens it definitely is Mickeys call. Though I think bringing Abbas in wont be the worst decision in the world but will be unfair on shadab if it happens
 
Slog said:
Well folks can only comment on reports

We'll know in a couple of days. If it happens it definitely is Mickeys call. Though I think bringing Abbas in wont be the worst decision in the world but will be unfair on shadab if it happens
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I think it's a joint decision with Inzi if true. I don't agree with at all. Abbas list a stats aren't the best. I wouldn't sacrifice him for Shadab.

In the worst era of playing spin,Shadabs variations are potentially match winning.
 
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