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Misbah-ul-Haq appointed as Head Coach and Chairman of Selectors; Waqar Younis named bowling coach

Why do fans expect a total noob like Misbah to do wonders over a qualified international level coach like Mickey Arthur?

I mean, what's the logic here, besides a screaming agenda?

This will end in tears. We didn't get results under Mickey, as he was always fighting a poor system which led to unqualified cricketers coming up from FC cricket. Now imagine having an amateur coach, with a poor system in the initial stages.

Also, if people thought the captain had no say with Mickey's team management, good luck to the unlucky numpties being appointed under the dynamic duo of Misbah and Waqar.
 
Usman Chadda said:
Why do fans expect a total noob like Misbah to do wonders over a qualified international level coach like Mickey Arthur?

I mean, what's the logic here, besides a screaming agenda?

This will end in tears. We didn't get results under Mickey, as he was always fighting a poor system which led to unqualified cricketers coming up from FC cricket. Now imagine having an amateur coach, with a poor system in the initial stages.

Also, if people thought the captain had no say with Mickey's team management, good luck to the unlucky numpties being appointed under the dynamic duo of Misbah and Waqar.
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I am no fan of Misbah but stop making excuses for Mickey Arthur, the guy is an incompetent coach who failed in every team he coached. He had his 3 years and failed to make his case in the PCB Cricket Committee meeting
 
Dr_Bassim said:
So lets move on shall we?

This is like the nervous patients looking at a freshly graduated doctor and making a decision that the doctor doesnt know anything.

The moment the patients cough is not relieved within 24 hours, he will make a confirmation bias that " I knew that this young fool was too young to impart me anything good".

More than the appointment, crowds of people have already "pre emptively" decided that "he is useless because he was useless as a cricketer" (ad addendum: the doctor is useless because he didnt top medical school).

What is going to be even more hilarious is when we lose and the crowds that are just waiting for it to happen go berserk with their "confirmation bias" and say "I told u so".

This judgmental attitude is seen in 90 percent of the people because they dont want to think or perhaps they are incapable of calculating anything related to their personal likes and dislikes.

Misbah will need time to establish his results and what I fear is that PCB will succumb to "immediate results theory".

What is good about Misbah is that he doesnt get "affected by criticism too much". He will keep on plodding and trying to do the best he can and that works for me.

Some things just take time.

No matter how many times you consummate your marriage, the baby will take 09 months to be born.

Learn from it.
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Tbh I am more concerned about the massive conflict of interest over the appointment. If someone takes this appointment to court, the court will have all the grounds in the world to nullify the appointment
 
nitrous said:
Some posters on this thread show their true jahil uneducated mentality.

Misbah, I am not saying he will be the savior to PCT problems, but the guy hasn’t even started his first assignment yet and the knives are already out.

Typical jahil mentality. Judge the guy after a few series. Not now!

Support him, when he needs the most, not put him down.

How he played his cricket has got nothing to do how he will coach and or select player. He is fully responsible and I am sure he is aware of it.

Give the guy a chance, jeez!!!
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Dr_Bassim said:
So lets move on shall we?

This is like the nervous patients looking at a freshly graduated doctor and making a decision that the doctor doesnt know anything.

The moment the patients cough is not relieved within 24 hours, he will make a confirmation bias that " I knew that this young fool was too young to impart me anything good".

More than the appointment, crowds of people have already "pre emptively" decided that "he is useless because he was useless as a cricketer" (ad addendum: the doctor is useless because he didnt top medical school).

What is going to be even more hilarious is when we lose and the crowds that are just waiting for it to happen go berserk with their "confirmation bias" and say "I told u so".

This judgmental attitude is seen in 90 percent of the people because they dont want to think or perhaps they are incapable of calculating anything related to their personal likes and dislikes.

Misbah will need time to establish his results and what I fear is that PCB will succumb to "immediate results theory".

What is good about Misbah is that he doesnt get "affected by criticism too much". He will keep on plodding and trying to do the best he can and that works for me.

Some things just take time.

No matter how many times you consummate your marriage, the baby will take 09 months to be born.

Learn from it.
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Two excellent posts.

Dr Saab a gem from you and worthy of a potw.

The hate mongering brigade is hurt. They're burning. Which is great to see. But they'll also be waiting for any chance to spew their hatred.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is a good move and after hearing the details it’s a thought through one. <a href="https://twitter.com/captainmisbahpk?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@captainmisbahpk</a> highlighted key matters that deserve attention and I’m happy there’s someone finally talking about them with a vision and a plan. It’s not going to be easy, but iA it’ll be worth it <a href="https://t.co/lpaBXRKU9k">https://t.co/lpaBXRKU9k</a></p>— Shoaib Malik &#55356;&#56821;&#55356;&#56816; (@realshoaibmalik) <a href="https://twitter.com/realshoaibmalik/status/1169448486053515264?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 5, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
As a captain, Misbah was often accused of having his mates in the team, ahead of other deserving players. Let's see if that changes with so much power in his hands now.
 
Savak said:
I am no fan of Misbah but stop making excuses for Mickey Arthur, the guy is an incompetent coach who failed in every team he coached. He had his 3 years and failed to make his case in the PCB Cricket Committee meeting
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I keep hearing this but how exactly did Mickey fail with South Africa?
 
Shazzam said:
So he was not fully responsible when he was captain of Pakistan?
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Pardon? What he was as a player doesn’t necessarily mean he will he that as a coach.

Give him a chance before criticizing, forget the past, move on
 
nitrous said:
Pardon? What he was as a player doesn’t necessarily mean he will he that as a coach.

Give him a chance before criticizing, forget the past, move on
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Has a huge task on his hand. In fact, Misbah and Co should be keeping a keen eye on U19s as that is where the future international players will come from
 
MenInG said:
Has a huge task on his hand. In fact, Misbah and Co should be keeping a keen eye on U19s as that is where the future international players will come from
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I’m sure he will. I was never a Misbah fan, but he needs to be given a chance. I just wonder what sort of posts we would’ve seen if MK was hired.
 
nitrous said:
Some posters on this thread show their true jahil uneducated mentality.

Misbah, I am not saying he will be the savior to PCT problems, but the guy hasn’t even started his first assignment yet and the knives are already out.

Typical jahil mentality. Judge the guy after a few series. Not now!

Support him, when he needs the most, not put him down.

How he played his cricket has got nothing to do how he will coach and or select player. He is fully responsible and I am sure he is aware of it.

Give the guy a chance, jeez!!!
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Just stick to your opinion and let everyone else express his. Don;t have to use curse words if someone doesn't share your thought. Don;t know what level of cricket have you played but there is a good chance those "jahils" have played far better level of cricket what you have played and have better cricketing knowledge.
 
Savak said:
I am no fan of Misbah but stop making excuses for Mickey Arthur, the guy is an incompetent coach who failed in every team he coached. He had his 3 years and failed to make his case in the PCB Cricket Committee meeting
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Yes he had his downsides, but the fact is Mickey Arthur is an international level coach and we just replaced him with a practical newbie.
 
MMHS said:
Let's be positive here - appointment is made therefore our personal appointment doesn't matter, neither our like or dislike.

At the first sight of PCB's job ad, I felt that they are trying to fit in Misbah, so it's not a surprise for me. The guy at least has great work ethics, may not be as talented as Inzi or Anwar, but no one can deny his passion for the game or his commitment. What I have seen (In many other sports as well), often best coaches are those hard working guys, who couldn't succeed in their career for lack of talent (Or limited success just for the sheer willpower and hard work), but their passion & discipline made them the best coaches around - Sir Alex, Wenger, Klopp, Jo Mou, Shankley, Rafa Benitez .... Phil Jackson, Popovich, Bob Woolmer, Blyssis, Hathura, Fletcher, Hesson ..... even Nick Bollettieri was a flop tennis player. Misbah fits into that bill perfectly, on top of that he is educated, polished and extremely articulate - might not be a bad pick.

Also, I think there has been lots of negativity among PAK ranks all through regarding Foreign coach, therefore PCB & particularly Wasim Khan decided to try their luck with a local guy. PCB's ad was placed in a way that no prominent (foreign) name would apply - among local applicants, or possible candidates, I do think Misbah is the best. At least, he has the education to put a strategy into action.

I know, it's not a popular choice and Misbah's credentials as player/captain doesn't encourage much, but as I understand, within the criteria, he is the best possible choice.

[MENTION=139075]Hadi Rizvi[/MENTION]
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I get the positivity that everyone naturally feels in a new set up (and a new domestic structure). However, we also have to look at the ground realities. For me Misbah never inspired any confidence as the captain of our LOI sides and we all know how defensive/submissive he was. I believe that a captain and coach share equal responsibility for the team's performances and we all saw what happened at the 2015WC.

How can we expect the same set of personnel to produce something different this time around? Einstein's definition of madness was doing the same thing again and again and expecting different results.

Don't you feel that we're playing merry-go-round here instead of professional cricket? How long will we keep seeing the same faces again and again?

Lastly, professionalism has been severely compromised by the conflicts of interest mentioned countless times.
 
Hawkeye said:
Two excellent posts.

Dr Saab a gem from you and worthy of a potw.

The hate mongering brigade is hurt. They're burning. Which is great to see. But they'll also be waiting for any chance to spew their hatred.
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There is hate and then there is blind optimism.

What you're displaying is nothing short of optimism for the sake of it?

Didn't you watch the sham that was the 2015 WC?

Has Misbah EVER shown an attacking/aggressive mindset/brand of cricket? No, right.
Then how can anyone in their right minds believe him when he talks about modern, aggressive cricket?
(Its kinda like making Bilawal the PM of Pakistan because his English is good and he graduated from Oxford.)

Call me "jahil" or whatever but I sure can call a spade, a spade.

England won the WC with an uber-aggressive, gung-ho style of cricket and here we are with the most defensive PAK player ever as our head coach AND selector.
And then we wonder why we can't win the WC.

But ofcourse "some things just take time" :quote:
 
WE the fans are ready to forgive Misbah for mistakes of past (except Mohali 2011) if he ensures that both Malik and Hafeez will never play for Pakistan in future. WE want to see us playing attacking cricket, going for 350 instead of trademark Misbah's safety first approach of 270 in ODIs.

Upcoming series against Srilanka will indicate us to Misbah's thought process. That either he has redeemed himself or is he the same old gutless Misbah with poor tactical awareness and no eye for talent.
 
Both decisions are awful

Waqar is a huge disgrace who has ran off with the money twice before with no results
I'd love to see how his fans get him out of this one as a bowling coach and wonder what then they will say

Misbah as a head coach... this isn't some dummy league watched by 50 people in sharjah at the PSL

this is international cricket
Poor choice and we'll see that in 1 year maximum

Expect major carnage
Enjoy
 
style_guru said:
As a captain, Misbah was often accused of having his mates in the team, ahead of other deserving players. Let's see if that changes with so much power in his hands now.
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Expect Azhar and Shafiq back in the t20i side
 
Hadi Rizvi said:
I get the positivity that everyone naturally feels in a new set up (and a new domestic structure). However, we also have to look at the ground realities. For me Misbah never inspired any confidence as the captain of our LOI sides and we all know how defensive/submissive he was. I believe that a captain and coach share equal responsibility for the team's performances and we all saw what happened at the 2015WC.

How can we expect the same set of personnel to produce something different this time around? Einstein's definition of madness was doing the same thing again and again and expecting different results.

Don't you feel that we're playing merry-go-round here instead of professional cricket? How long will we keep seeing the same faces again and again?

Lastly, professionalism has been severely compromised by the conflicts of interest mentioned countless times.
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I completely agree with the conflict of interest part. If PCB was so adamant to hire Misbah, he shouldn't had been part of the committee that declined to renew Arthur's contract. I do believe the level of authority & autonomy given to Misbah, had Arthur enjoyed that, he should have done better.

Coming to Misbah, he was one of my most criticized ODI Captains ever (Overall Captain also may be, but his style worked in UAE Tests), and he is quite limited as batsman. But, here he is in a different capacity - Team Manager/Director. I'll still say, if PCB hires a top quality batting coach & spin coach; Misbah might surprise many of you.
 
MMHS said:
I completely agree with the conflict of interest part. If PCB was so adamant to hire Misbah, he shouldn't had been part of the committee that declined to renew Arthur's contract. I do believe the level of authority & autonomy given to Misbah, had Arthur enjoyed that, he should have done better.

Coming to Misbah, he was one of my most criticized ODI Captains ever (Overall Captain also may be, but his style worked in UAE Tests), and he is quite limited as batsman. But, here he is in a different capacity - Team Manager/Director. I'll still say, if PCB hires a top quality batting coach & spin coach; Misbah might surprise many of you.
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I wonder how Mickey Arthur must be feeling right now. He was cribbing in private to journalists after being sacked that he devoted all his energies, efforts to Pakistan Cricket and his wife divorced him during the time period. He probably feels more incensed given how his previous captain Misbah recommended to remove him and now has sneaking replaced him.

I am pretty sure there are grounds to go to the courts over this
 
moghul said:
Just stick to your opinion and let everyone else express his. Don;t have to use curse words if someone doesn't share your thought. Don;t know what level of cricket have you played but there is a good chance those "jahils" have played far better level of cricket what you have played and have better cricketing knowledge.
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Curse words? You really must be a kid or a typical keyboard warrior.
Mate, you are right, everyone has their opinions, but you know nothin about me.

Not sure why my post touched your nerve, grow up!
 
Just hope his Pak side play an entertaining form of Cricket. i don't want to see any negativity once he takes charge and give new players a chance as well.
 
Savak said:
I wonder how Mickey Arthur must be feeling right now. He was cribbing in private to journalists after being sacked that he devoted all his energies, efforts to Pakistan Cricket and his wife divorced him during the time period. He probably feels more incensed given how his previous captain Misbah recommended to remove him and now has sneaking replaced him.

I am pretty sure there are grounds to go to the courts over this
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Not sure about the legal ground (because Arthur wasn’t sacked - they just didn’t renew his contract, which within PCB’s right), but morally definitely unacceptable; this will further tarnish PCB’s image as employer. Also, sad to know the divorce part - but if a mother of two daughters into their 20s decides to break her marriage of over 25 years for husband’s job (& quite a high paying job), then I guess it’s more of a social/cultural problem - PCB can’t help much.

Arthur made the first blunder of a professional- they say love your job, not the employer. He did opposite and that too for an employer like PCB!!!! And, I can’t say that he loved his job that desperately, instead of learning from on going experience & building into his latest job, he tried to implant his past career into latest one, which suggests, he probably didn’t own the job that dearly.

His departure is sad (the way it was executed by PCB is quite unprofessional), and he’ll get another job for sure, but Arthur can’t blame PCB for this one - his performance didn’t speak for him. And, the day he went to compromise route (I can name many - regarding selection, regarding Captaincy, regarding fitness, regarding combination, regarding phasing out seniors ....), instead of confront it out and at least stumped his disagreement, his clock started counting.
 
Final nail in the coffin, I don't think I'm going to be interested in watching cricket as much now that Misbah is in charge. We need professionalism for our cricket and not these local players because they won't transform our side. A foreign coach was always going to be a much better choice.
 
ok here's the stretch.

Appointing Misbah would not magically make us world beaters neither would it make us the worst side ever! His appointment (as far as impact goes) will not effect things in the immediate future since the core set of players playing in the national team would be more or less the same. The effect would most probably come in the next 2 years once the side has completely taken root in the Misbah philosophy, whatever that might be.

That leaves the board with a very peculiar predicament, which is fueling 2.8 million ruppers (almost 20K USD) to a guy who will basically learn stuff on the job since he has zero relevant coaching experience. I saw the presser and the funny thing is that PCB, Misbah and everyone involved in the latter decision basically came up front and admitted that this is indeed an experiment because they themselves don't know (given the resources) on how to completely fix/overhaul things in the board at the moment.

So the decision to hire Misbah is basically, for all its purposes, a complete shot in the dark (based on everyone's admission who conducted the process). Now the reasoning for such was that they wanted to help develop local coaches under the tutlage of Misbah however what's baffling is that if they wanted to do that, they could've atleast gotten someone from domestics who at least had the basics for how coaching was conducted, Maybe the guy who was Peshawar Zalmi's coach or someone along those lines.

From what I've heard, it is rumored that IK himself wanted Misbah for the job which is why PCB had no choice but to eventually hire him. They advertised for the position and everything so that they could at least, for the ICC, showcase that there was no 'govt' interference as Zim just got their ICC status revoked due to these allegations.

Whatever the case maybe, Misbah's selection was basically done with bias and not based on any qualification standards that the PCB defined in the coach hiring advert. Now whether that move will be a success/failure is another debate however the process was shockingly maligned and does not leave a good taste.
 
Rather than discussing if Misbah is the right or wrong pick...id like to learn about Wasim khan’s logic and thought process behind this unique solution. What can one individual do with dual roles do that two individuals with one cannot?

Thanks to our jaahil journalist, no useful question was asked of Wasim or Misbah.

Maybe, Wasim thinks the chief selector role will always be at risk of outside influence/pressure. Idk I’d genuinely love to ask the guy some questions to understand his thinking.
 
So glad Mickey is gone. I'm laughing seeing his fans (Misbah haters) crying. :))
 
Apparently Imran Khan is the main driving force behind the decisions to appoint Waqar and Misbah. All that is left now is for Inzamam to be appointed the batting coach and Mohsin Khan as manager
 
I really dont understand our fans expectations, what we dont have becomes high priority. For example : 2 years back we all were crying like we only play good at UAE, and outside we are just sheep. Now suddenly UAE becomes priority when our outside cricket has improved (with youngest squad we have)

Would have love to see the combo of Arthur coach and Misbah as manager/director (to reel off all the external influences in selection matters, and Mickeys passion to keep players to do more)

Now we have very dynamite combination in Misbah (who if loses control will sit back and relax, and waqar will obviously be eyeing the head coach). All in all we have moved back to 2011-2013 era where we can only win in UAE (not even in SL)
 
What I really care is Pak team to improve and becomes better playing outside UAE, even though they lose everything in UAE
 
And wait a minute, did I see Rahat ali in training camp...
WTH.. This will be worst nightmare for fans, and golden opportunity for all the TTFs. Even Faisal Iqbal could make a comeback.
And in my own words... I am surprised, they did not make Misbah captain of team as well
 
It's sad how Pakistan fans have been reduced to mirror images of the fraud journalists, critics etc they continuously bash.

It's all about the agenda. To hell with Pakistan cricket.
 
This will be the rise of Rahat Ali, Ehsan Adil, Mohammad Talha, Asif Ali, Faheem Ashraf, Ahmed Shehzad, Imran Khan Sr and JR, Asad Ali, Khurram Shehzad, Iftikhar Ahmed, Sohail Khan, M Irfan, etc.
 
Theo_14 said:
And yet you have decided to quote me without actually providing credible reasons as to why I should be corrected and what the actual correction is.
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"Well, in another sport, some bad players actually became good coaches. So maybe if we put this extremely defensive and slow thinking individual in power without experience for that position + give him extra power also without relevant experience, for a team in a completely different sport at the top level , which is already pathetically defensive and is always trying to 'not lose' rather than to 'win', maybe it will not go down poorly?"

"Hmm, maybe this glass is full of poison. It does smell like it and certainly looks like it and people tell me it is. But it doesn't mean it DEFINITELY is poison, or that it will DEFINITELY kill me. I should give it a fair chance, simply because I like the color of the drink. Maybe it will actually be quite tasty and harmless. Also, there was that Prophet or something who drank some poison after saying Bismillah and he was fine, so I guess it won't really be a big deal."

There. Common sense credible enough for you?
 
My other criticism is that with two powerful roles, where will Misbah find the space to be the batting coach?

The PCB has to appoint Inzamam as the batting coach as Misbah cannot do 3 roles at one time.
 
His management skills are superior to Inzamam's and we will definitely see sunnier days in Test cricket but I don't really see much hope for ODI cricket here since he never developed an attacking approach since that's how we've been playing our cricket throughout history. His argument is that he had to play defensive cricket during his ODI captaincy due to the resources but he always opted for deadwood like Kamran Akmal, Younis Khan, Imran Farhat, Asad Ali, Umar Gul etc. I will admit he did have a few players that were capable of playing a modern brand of ODI cricket during the 2015 WC with the likes of Afridi, Umar Akmal, Sohaib Maqsood but their consistency is appalling and they fell apart as the WC came closer in addition to being big flops. Now since we recovered from the 2010 episode, I do feel Misbah has more options to tinker with but he's going to have to be much tougher than Mickey Arthur (who was strict himself) so we elevate ourselves to higher levels. Remember the likes of India have a local coach in Ravi Shastri and are doing well, we can do well too if we bring in the right people in our system but it all depends on how much work the players put in.
 
ExplicitAI said:
His management skills are superior to Inzamam's and we will definitely see sunnier days in Test cricket but I don't really see much hope for ODI cricket here since he never developed an attacking approach since that's how we've been playing our cricket throughout history. His argument is that he had to play defensive cricket during his ODI captaincy due to the resources but he always opted for deadwood like Kamran Akmal, Younis Khan, Imran Farhat, Asad Ali, Umar Gul etc. I will admit he did have a few players that were capable of playing a modern brand of ODI cricket during the 2015 WC with the likes of Afridi, Umar Akmal, Sohaib Maqsood but their consistency is appalling and they fell apart as the WC came closer in addition to being big flops. Now since we recovered from the 2010 episode, I do feel Misbah has more options to tinker with but he's going to have to be much tougher than Mickey Arthur (who was strict himself) so we elevate ourselves to higher levels. Remember the likes of India have a local coach in Ravi Shastri and are doing well, we can do well too if we bring in the right people in our system but it all depends on how much work the players put in.
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Just to add to this; ODI cricket is a major format and critical to putting bums on seats, so I can't fathom why he's been given these crucial roles with his dismal record as ODI captain. It's like rewarding one of the worst performing employees in a company with a leadership role.

Yes, the Test cricket was good at home with no losses in the UAE but every top team is expected to do well in their home conditions, although even here the brand of cricket was dull and turgid. Misbah can't wholly be blamed for this as the conditions weren't conducive to attacking cricket in the UAE.
 
This might back fire
Misbah as captain did horrible selections
Not sure how this will work
 
Lahore High Court (LHC) Chief Justice Amir Bhatti on Friday directed Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) to submit its response in relation to Misbahul Haq’s appointment as the head coach and chief selector for the men's cricket team.

During the hearing on a petition seeking to declare Misbah's appointment as illegal, Justice Bhatti remarked that the former captain was Pakistan’s star. “We should be glad that the PCB did not ‘import’ a head coach this time,” he said.

“Shouldn't the PCB be appreciated for this decision?” he asked. “Shouldn’t players like Misbah lead the team as the coach?”

Jusitce Bhatti also asked the petitioner if he had any doubts in Haq’s capabilities. At this, the petitioner responded saying he had no doubts in the former captain. He, however, said that the appointment was made against the rules and merit.

The petitioner maintained that Misbah did not have any experience of serving as the head coach. He went on to add that the appointment was against the law.

He also pointed out that the former skipper’s salary and other benefits exceeded the pay structure set for the position. He pleaded to the court to declare Misbah’s appointment as illegal.

On September 4, the PCB appointed Misbah on the positions — a first in Pakistan cricket — while Waqar Younis was named the bowling coach.

The decision received a mixed response from former and current players.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1504997/l...dual-appointment-as-head-coach-chief-selector
 
Petition filed against Misbah’s appointment as national cricket coach

LAHORE: The Lahore High Court on Friday issued notice to the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) on a petition challenging the appointment of former captain Misbah-ul-Haq as head coach of the national team.

Syed Ali Zahid Bokhari, a lawyer by profession, filed the petition and appeared in person to advance arguments when Justice Ameer Bhatti resumed first hearing. The lawyer stated that the former captain did not have the required credentials or the experience to coach the national team. He said the appointment had been made in an unjust manner where merit has not been observed.

Zahid further said that since Prime Minister Imran Khan and Misbah are distant maternal cousin, the PCB is favouring the latter to please the former. He said PCB CEO Waseem Khan at a press conference admitted that Misbah did not possess the required experience as coach.

At one of the hearings, the judge asked the petitioner as if he had any doubt in the cricketing skills of Misbah. “Is he not a cricket star?” the judge asked the lawyer and said he should rather be happy that this time PCB had not imported a coach from abroad.

Advocate Bokhari said he himself was a great admirer of Misbah for his achievements but his appointment had not been made in line with the rules. He urged the judge to declare the appointment of Misbah null and void.

Present in the court, PCB legal advisor Taffazul Haider Rizvi opposed the petition. However, the judge adjou*rned hearing and has sought written reply from the PCB.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1505055/p...misbahs-appointment-as-national-cricket-coach
 
This is one of the dumbest petitions I've ever read about. Our courts have bigger and more pressing matters to adjudicate than the internal decisions of an organization. HC and Chief Selector are not some nationally elected or posts that have constitutional permanence that should prompt this sort of challenges. Organizations make changes and adjustments to their internal operating structures all the time. They're not matters of public that can/should be challenged in courts. Waste of time. Did NZ people file suits when they combined the role of HC and CS? I don't see it happening in South Africa either as they are now changing their structure. People in our country are beyond stupid sometimes.
 
Putting my conflict of interest concerns aside. According to reporter Misbah is taking his dual roles very seriously and has already started working day and night. He has apparently put all stakeholders on notice. To the regional coaches he has told them he expects them to observe merit in team selections, discipline and to follow modern training practices, fitness standards, diet plans and he will monitor frequently to see implementation.
 
Kroll said:
Just to add to this; ODI cricket is a major format and critical to putting bums on seats, so I can't fathom why he's been given these crucial roles with his dismal record as ODI captain. It's like rewarding one of the worst performing employees in a company with a leadership role.

Yes, the Test cricket was good at home with no losses in the UAE but every top team is expected to do well in their home conditions, although even here the brand of cricket was dull and turgid. Misbah can't wholly be blamed for this as the conditions weren't conducive to attacking cricket in the UAE.
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I can see where you're coming from. I don't want to make comparisons between football and cricket but the likes of Thierry Henry who were legends of the game were then considered as being terrible managers, whereas some mediocre footballers have become world class managers. In this case you never know how well a newly appointed coach would adapt to their role. I personally hated Misbah's defensive captaincy since it goes against our style of attacking cricket, he did manage to eek out wins by bowling a match out dry with the likes of Ajmal, Afridi and Hafeez, but it was usually the oldies like Gul who got tonked around. Also sometimes playing boring cricket can be overlooked if good results are getting churned out. A win is a win at the end of the day.
 
PCB’s MD Wasim Khan meets Waqar Younis to discuss bowlers’ progress

Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB)’s Managing Director Wasim Khan met national team’s bowling coach Waqar Younis at Gaddafi Stadium, Lahore to access bowlers’ preparations ahead of the home series against Sri Lanka.

Both the high officials discussed bowlers’ preparations for the upcoming important series against Irelanders who will travel to Karachi on September 25. Waqar is confident that his bowlers will deliver strongly as the former captain will be highly looking forward to a good start of the new stint with the team.

Khan reached out to young bowler Mohammad Husnain to get his fitness update and make sure that he will be particpating in the upcoming event.

On the other hand, MD also assessed pitch preparations in the stadium for the upcoming T20I series, scheduled from October 5 to 9. Mansoor Rana (Team Operations, Logistics & Administrative Manager) was present along with him.

https://arysports.tv/pcbs-md-wasim-meets-waqar-younis-discuss-bowlers-progress/
 
Afridi defending Misbah!

"If they are giving Misbah a lot of money, then he is also leaving a lot and doing a 24 hour job. If Misbah is doing this job in this much money (same as Arthur) then that's a good thing. He will leave everything else aside and focus on this role and work hard, he knows what a big challenge it is. So why shouldn't he get this money? It's his demand and he's a hard working guy"
 
MenInG said:
Afridi defending Misbah!

"If they are giving Misbah a lot of money, then he is also leaving a lot and doing a 24 hour job. If Misbah is doing this job in this much money (same as Arthur) then that's a good thing. He will leave everything else aside and focus on this role and work hard, he knows what a big challenge it is. So why shouldn't he get this money? It's his demand and he's a hard working guy"
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This is all about the friends patting each others backs. Gosh, I thought those times were behind us.
 
Have we seen any effects of his coaching yet?
 
Savak said:
Putting my conflict of interest concerns aside. According to reporter Misbah is taking his dual roles very seriously and has already started working day and night. He has apparently put all stakeholders on notice. To the regional coaches he has told them he expects them to observe merit in team selections, discipline and to follow modern training practices, fitness standards, diet plans and he will monitor frequently to see implementation.
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And then he goes on to select Shehzad and Akmal in place of Fakhar and Haris? What a great conflict!
 
goran said:
And then he goes on to select Shehzad and Akmal in place of Fakhar and Haris? What a great conflict!
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Misbah is a good politician. He knows how to manipulate system and do things under cover.
 
Misbah speaking to the media at end of the 2nd T20I:

"The opposition deserves credit, they played well. One of our strengths, yorkers, we haven't been able to execute like SL did, we need to bring that back. We have been relying on length balls, slower balls and other variations. Pakistan's strength of yorkers will be worked on with Waqar bhai. If you don't have clarity and try different things in death overs then you can leak 10-12 an over"
 
How have Sri Lanka B been hitting our bowlers around the park ?
 
No plan, no strategy, no back-up tactics, that's what you get when you appoint a newbie head coach along with a yes man Sarfraz.
 
Markhor said:
How have Sri Lanka B been hitting our bowlers around the park ?
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There is a reason why he was rejected by Australia when he applied for a vacant bowling coach position some years ago.

His presence his also compounded by his toxic character and mannerisms as well.

I would have liked Muhammad Akram instead.
 
Waqar Younis speaking on TV

"You have to keep on performing, you cannot say that if I do well in this type of cricket and then I can do well in Test match cricket and comeback in Tests; You can go around the world and make money playing leagues but when it comes to playing for your country, for me - not really judging anyone but for me, Test match cricket - and I am sure Shoaib Akhtar will also agree - is the actual cricket; I feel the real cricket is Test match cricket; Test match cricket is the ultimate"
 
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I think we should blame the lack of talent in domestic cricket rather than Misbah for selecting the best of the sorry lot.
 
None of the hyped up players have performed as half the level of TTFs. It would be stupid to believe that they will perform better than TTFs in international games
 
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muhammad saad said:
None of the hyped up players have performed as half the level of TTFs. It would be stupid to believe that they will perform better than TTFs in international games
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Naseem Shah, Sameen Gul, Zafar Gohar have all done better than the TTFs this season.

As for batsmen that's a bit of a worry, that's why we are considering people like Fawad Alam or Abid Ali as stop gap solutions. However, Rizwan and Sami Aslam have done well.
 
HappyWarsFan said:
Naseem Shah, Sameen Gul, Zafar Gohar have all done better than the TTFs this season.

As for batsmen that's a bit of a worry, that's why we are considering people like Fawad Alam or Abid Ali as stop gap solutions. However, Rizwan and Sami Aslam have done well.
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I meant T20 power hitters.
 
muhammad saad said:
They are decent at best , none of the rookies are half as good as TTFs that's worrisome sign.
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Which TTF are we talking about who has performed? As far as I know none performed. From what I saw maqsood and Anwar Ali (power hitters) haven't been amazing
 
Pakistan bowling coach Waqar Younis has said Pakistan would need to unearth new fast bowlers, adding that he is already looking into emerging talent.

“We need to groom new players and give opportunity to them, we have seen the likes Mohammad Abbas and Mohammad Hasnain, we might have to look into Mohammad Musa, Nasim Shah who is another talented bowler," said Waqar in a video.

“We should not stick to certain names, of course we need bowlers like Wahab Riaz and Mohammad Amir," he said. Speaking about Amir and Wahab's decision to retire from Test cricket, Waqar said that the duo has clearly stated that they just not want to play Test cricket.

Giving his view on the ongoing National T20 Cup, the former captain of Pakistan said that enough opportunity was not given to youngsters in this tournament. “I think in such tournaments, two Under-19 players should be compulsory included in the Playing XI, so that we could assess their talent," he said.

Pakistan cricket stars are currently participating at the National T20 Cup, which is being held at Iqbal Stadium, Faisalabad.

https://www.brecorder.com/2019/10/1...r-in-process-of-identifying-new-fast-bowlers/
 
"Thing is nowadays there is a lot of scrutiny in selection matters so selectors a little hesitant but I am of the view that if there is a talented batsman or bowler, there needs to be a fast-track through which you put a player in - this happens in Australia and England; You need to fasttrack such players soon and at a young age" : Waqar Younis
 
[PICTURE] This is how Cricket Australia advertises for selectors.....

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Cricket Australia has advertised for a new national selector for the men's team on job searching platform Seek.

In the same week Chris Lynn expressed his disappointment at a lack of communication with the sport's governing body, saying he found out via social media he had been left out of the upcoming Twenty20 series against Pakistan and Sri Lanka, CA went public in its efforts to replace Greg Chappell.

A post traditionally filled by ex-cricketers, from the likes of Sir Donald Bradman, Neil Harvey and Ray Lindwall through to Bob Simpson, Allan Border, David Boon and Mark Waugh, CA has taken a public approach to finding a selector this time around.

"Cricket Australia (CA) is one of the Nation’s premier sporting bodies and provides an exciting and dynamic environment within the sports and entertainment industry," reads the posting on the job website, with applications closing on Wednesday.

"CA is responsible for overseeing and developing cricket on a national level, ultimately with a responsibility for the national cricket teams and professional cricket competitions played in Australia.

"An opportunity exists within our National Teams department for an experienced and motivated Selector to work with the Australian Men’s Cricket Team. As a member of the National Selection Panel (NSP), the Selector is responsible for the selection of Australian men’s teams (Test, ODI, T20I), Australia A squads and CA XI teams."

The current panel is chaired by Trevor Hohn and also includes men's head coach Justin Langer.

T20 ace Chris Lynn says he's disappointed at finding out about his Australian team omission via social media.

The job posting also calls for "expert knowledge, skills and experience" to assist with areas such as team strategies, planning for future tournaments, keeping an eye on both domestic and international matches and training sessions and producing detailed player development reports.

When the Herald attempted to click on the "apply" button on the site, however, the role was no longer available.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricke...-for-new-selector-online-20191023-p533f2.html
 
This thread had some doomsday predictions from PPers while some were delighted with Misbah appointment.

What’s the verdict now? Another year or change?

My thinking is Wasim will only change management if he sees behind the scenes work as abysmal as the results on the field.
 
Under misbahs coaching tenure, pakistan never lost a test at home
 
Colorblind Genius said:
hmm
Let’s see? Under Misbah how many test matches Pakistan played with Australia or any other number 1 test ranked team in Karachi?
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Misbah fans coming out they forgot the team lost every match in SENA over the last few years while he was coach that in itself is a record to envy.
 
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