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Misbah-ul-Haq Haters Report! | And Eat Some Humble Pie While You Are Here!

Which camp do you fall in?

  • 1) I dislike Misbah and always will.

    Votes: 21 10.9%

  • 2) I previously disliked Misbah and now, I know I was wrong.

    Votes: 49 25.4%

  • 3) I always knew Misbah was the man.

    Votes: 123 63.7%
  • Total voters
    193
IAJ said:
Some very good points made. Some of the children here won't understand it. They don't see the whole picture and instead they pick one player they hate and spread the hatred in every single thread and the jokers I am referring to are well aware of this.
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Correct. I bet all the haters are kids, probably under the age of 21 who are so tied up with what happened at mohali and thier continious blaming of Misbha, that they cannot even enjoy any of the matches where he does well of which there have been pleanty. Their loss i guess...
 
some of you don't understand the term 'rotating the strike' or ' keeping the scoreboard ticking'. Misbah doesnt know these terms thus dooesn't do. If you play an over of tuk tuk rathar than rotating the strike it buillds pressure on the non striker and he tries to play a boundary shot to release the pressure as he knows misbah will play more than half of his innings under the strike rate of 50 then slog a few boundaries in the end to look good. His impact on the other batsmen is extremely negative in limited over cricket and he pressurises the non striker to the extent that he is forced to play a boundary shot.
 
do you understand the term "averaging 50+ in ODI cricket'?
 
AZ said:
do you understand the term "averaging 50+ in ODI cricket'?
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yah and destroying the non striker's average by the same number. His batting is not partnership batting. He should play single wicket cricket.
 
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LOL, then how come we have won our last 2 ODI series, with Misbah playing crucial knocks vs both NZ and WI?
 
JibranAnsari said:
yah and destroying the non striker's average by the same number. His batting is not partnership batting. He should play single wicket cricket.
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single wicket lol

what about double wicket matches.

i have to agree misbah batting style doesnt suit odis plus he is batting at number5 and than 37 years old. he can stick to test but for odis you need someone who can ROTATE strike not just blocking or hitting but ROTATING in which he is poor. also he bats at number 5, which isnt a position for such kind of player.

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I always had a feeling that misbah was a genius, and now once again he is showing how to play cricket :14:.
 
JibranAnsari said:
some of you don't understand the term 'rotating the strike' or ' keeping the scoreboard ticking'. Misbah doesnt know these terms thus dooesn't do. If you play an over of tuk tuk rathar than rotating the strike it buillds pressure on the non striker and he tries to play a boundary shot to release the pressure as he knows misbah will play more than half of his innings under the strike rate of 50 then slog a few boundaries in the end to look good. His impact on the other batsmen is extremely negative in limited over cricket and he pressurises the non striker to the extent that he is forced to play a boundary shot.
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Like Taufeeq Umar, Mohammad Hafeez, Azhar Ali and Asad Shafiq are master blasters!

Look at Azhar's and Asad's strike rate in Tests, almost same as Misbah. And Misbah has better SR than all the players mentioned in my post in ODIs, he has also better SR than YK in ODIs.

I am not Misbah's biggets supporter but had he not been playing in this Test series we would have lost it, as simple as that. And just because of Misbah we won the Test series in NZ. How many times has that happend before his leadership?

Awain hi uth key badhkan maran shuru houn jandey ney.
 
AZ said:
LOL, then how come we have won our last 2 ODI series, with Misbah playing crucial knocks vs both NZ and WI?
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AZ the run rate in games won against nz and westindies was never an issue.

did u watch worldcup game against srl, how he bat and how younis bat??

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guys guys

no one questioning his abilities but his batting style doesnt suit odis and also at number 5. plus he is 37,

look misbah strike rate look better because whenever he make a score he cover for those dots by hitting a few in end but when he fails then its a big big trouble.

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james_bond said:
AZ the run rate in games won against nz and westindies was never an issue.

did u watch worldcup game against srl, how he bat and how younis bat??

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the end justifies the means.

Pakistan win the match, he could bat with 25 strike-rate for all I care.
 
IAJ said:
Like Taufeeq Umar, Mohammad Hafeez, Azhar Ali and Asad Shafiq are master blasters!

Look at Azhar's and Asad's strike rate in Tests, almost same as Misbah. And Misbah has better SR than all the players mentioned in my post in ODIs, he has also better SR than YK in ODIs.

I am not Misbah's biggets supporter but had he not been playing in this Test series we would have lost it, as simple as that. And just because of Misbah we won the Test series in NZ. How many times has that happend before his leadership?

Awain hi uth key badhkan maran shuru houn jandey ney.
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yah thats why i said misbah slogs a few in the end to make his strike rate look good. Most part of his innings is tuk tuk tuk with strike rate of 45
 
NeVerMind said:
Correct. I bet all the haters are kids, probably under the age of 21
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Incorrect.

I myself am under the age of 21 and I can firmly say that I'm not a Misbah hater, infact... I actually enjoy watching Misbah, especially in the longer format of the game. He has the ideal type of approach and style against bowlers which suits the format perfectly and the stats speak for it self.

I've always backed up Misbah and always will, here's some evidence before you ask...

1) http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?t=127847&page=2

2) http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=3824014&postcount=21

3) http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=3743225&postcount=173
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And then there's BoomBoomCricket who is probably the biggest Misbah fan on the forum and is also under the age of 21, infact most of his threads are on Misbah :14:...

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/search.php?searchid=1296173
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The bottom line is that it's not "all" the "U21's" who are Misbah haters, it's a certain section of the Pakistani fans who hate Misbah because of the approach he has against bowlers and the fact he's not a excited batsman to watch or for apparently being the reason for the defeat at the semi final world cup, who knows?

Your either hate him or love him - but he doesn't care, neither do I... As long as Misbah's scoring then all I could do is lay back and keep on praising the captain of Pakistan.
 
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AZ said:
the end justifies the means.

Pakistan win the match, he could bat with 25 strike-rate for all I care.
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you can get away sometime but its never the approach.

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Theo_14 said:
Incorrect.

I myself am under the age of 21 and I can firmly say that I'm not a Misbah hater, infact... I actually enjoy watching Misbah, especially in the longer format of the game. He has the ideal type of approach and style against bowlers which suits the format perfectly and the stats speak for it self.

I've always backed up Misbah and always will, here's some evidence before you ask...



And then there's BoomBoomCricket who is probably the biggest Misbah fan on the forum and is also under the age of 21, infact most of his threads are on Misbah :14:...


The bottom line is that it's not "all" the "U21's" who are Misbah haters, it's a certain section of the Pakistani fans who hate Misbah because of the approach he has against bowlers and the fact he's not a excited batsman to watch or for apparently being the reason for the defeat at the semi final world cup, who knows?

Your either hate him or love him - but he doesn't care, neither do I... As long as Misbah's scoring then all I could do is lay back and keep on praising the captain of Pakistan.
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You took this U21/children stuff personally it seems Theo? He was only talking about all the haters being under 21, and it doesn't automatically mean that all the U21s are haters. You see?
 
IAJ said:
You took this U21/children stuff personally it seems Theo?
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What's so personal about my post, that makes you think I took it personally, may I ask?:13:

He was only talking about all the haters being under 21[/B
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And I simply quoted him claiming that not "all" U21s are Misbah haters, and provided him with 2 examples + evididence, pretty sure there's nothing wrong with that.

and it doesn't automatically mean that all the U21s are haters. You see?
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That what I thought, until... I saw the term "all".

I bet all the haters are kids, probably under the age of 21
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Just say... I'm the group leader of the youth of Pakpassion, intending to clarify things. :sharif
 
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Theo_14 said:
What's so personal about my post, that makes you think I took it personally, may I ask?:13:



And I simply quoted him claiming that not "all" U21s are Misbah haters, and provided him with 2 examples + evididence, pretty sure there's nothing wrong with that.



That what I thought, until... the term "all".



Just say... I'm the group leader of the youth of Pakpassion, intending to clarify things. :sharif
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He said that all haters are under 21. That is not the same as all under 21s are haters.

Note the difference.
 
This is post number 415. Long list of haters.. But I am no hater. I have allways maintained he is much better than what fans think.
 
Shayan said:
He said that all haters are under 21. That is not the same as all under 21s are haters.

Note the difference.
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I gathered the difference at first. However why is it that most PP'ers think that most haters of Misbah are fans who are under the age of 21?:13:

I could easily provide them with evidence that there's fans out there who have been watching cricket for a while but yet they don't like Misbah's approach... Infact don't even think that he should be near the test side.

It's the "certain section" of the Pakistani fans who are Misbah haters, not "specific haters" who are labelled as "kids" or under the age of 21.
 
Theo_14 said:
I gathered the difference at first. However why is it that most PP'ers think that most haters of Misbah are fans who are under the age of 21?:13:

I could easily provide them with evidence that there's fans out there who have been watching cricket for a while but yet they don't like Misbah's approach... Infact don't even think that he should be near the test side.

It's the "certain section" of the Pakistani fans who are Misbah haters, not "specific haters" who are labelled as "kids" or under the age of 21.
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Actually, I don't think you did gather the difference, hence your long reply about you being Under 21 and not hating Misbah.

However yes, I do agree that there are people of all ages that hate Misbah and think he is rubbish. And all of them are wrong.
 
Theo_14 said:
Incorrect.

I myself am under the age of 21 and I can firmly say that I'm not a Misbah hater, infact... I actually enjoy watching Misbah, especially in the longer format of the game. He has the ideal type of approach and style against bowlers which suits the format perfectly and the stats speak for it self.

I've always backed up Misbah and always will, here's some evidence before you ask...



And then there's BoomBoomCricket who is probably the biggest Misbah fan on the forum and is also under the age of 21, infact most of his threads are on Misbah :14:...

The bottom line is that it's not "all" the "U21's" who are Misbah haters, it's a certain section of the Pakistani fans who hate Misbah because of the approach he has against bowlers and the fact he's not a excited batsman to watch or for apparently being the reason for the defeat at the semi final world cup, who knows?

Your either hate him or love him - but he doesn't care, neither do I... As long as Misbah's scoring then all I could do is lay back and keep on praising the captain of Pakistan.
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I stand corrected. And don't you just like the fact that he is usually not involved in any of the politics/controversy that is always surrounding Pak cricket? The guy gets on with his game, tries his level best, wins us games and gives his best under other more controversial captains. And yet we have a hate thread for him. Quite sad indeed...
 
Shayan said:
Actually, I don't think you did gather the difference, hence your long reply about you being Under 21 and not hating Misbah.
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I gathered the difference when you repeated the point, in your own words. ;-)

However yes, I do agree that there are people of all ages that hate Misbah and think he is rubbish. And all of them are wrong.
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Agreed.

There's no point of using our own opinions on Misbah to convince those specific fans who are against Misbah because the stats are there which speak for itself and back our opinion on Misbah perfectly.

Here's a prime example...



Top stats, top player. :14:

NeVerMind said:
I stand corrected. And don't you just like the fact that he is usually not involved in any of the politics/controversy that is always surrounding Pak cricket? The guy gets on with his game, tries his level best, wins us games and gives his best under other more controversial captains. And yet we have a hate thread for him. Quite sad indeed...
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That's something that hasn't been mentioned so much because many Misbah fans tend to use his stats to convince the specific Misbah haters but that's a very good point to use and just makes our case even stronger. :D
 
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Theo_14 said:
That's something that hasn't been mentioned so much because many Misbah fans tend to use his stats to convince the specific Misbah haters but that's a very good point to use and just makes our case even stronger. :D
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I just find it amazing that we are having to defend one of our best players and current captain of both test and one day cricket from our own so-called 'Pakistani' fans. I bet teams from all around the world will happily snap him up!
 
JibranAnsari said:
yah thats why i said misbah slogs a few in the end to make his strike rate look good. Most part of his innings is tuk tuk tuk with strike rate of 45
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That's the way he plays, and it's usually pretty successful for him. I don't remember anyone complaining about it when he played so well in the T20 World Cup in 2007.

As a poster here has already mentioned, none of our batsmen in that semi-final got out as a result of Misbah's batting. Akmal and Razzaq both got out to balls they were unable to play, nothing to do with Misbah.

We lost the game because as a team, we weren't good enough. Unfortunately some fans can't accept this and therefore need to look for a scapegoat.
 
The Misbah ul Haq Humble Pie Thread....

Own up guys....

Which camp do you fall in....?

1) I hate Misbah and always will...
2) I previously disliked Misbah and I now know I was wrong...
3) I always knew Misbah was the man....
 
3 for me. Was ambivalent on his appointment but I was impressed with his captaincy in domestic cricket and Geoff Lawson had good things to say about him, just annoyed that Pakistan kept chopping and changing captains.
 
Number 3 for me. :misbah

But I don't like all this current hype based on one recent win. It scares me.
 
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Wasn't one of those going on about his age.

Thought he was always a pretty decent limited overs player (record was decent even before captaincy), and should have been given a longer run in the limited overs team (as well as perhaps unfairly dropped from the limited overs team).

Test player didn't really think he deserved a call back ahead of others.

Not surprised he's a decent captain though. Just worried whether he'd perform to a good enough standard when he returned to the test team. Thought he might not be able to justify his place in the test team on performance. Glad to be proven wrong though. Still preferred him over guys like Nazir, Hammeed, Malik etc. Least Misbah had a around a fifty average first class record rather than the thirty or so averages of those other guys. If a guy doesn't perform in domestic, it's very rare he's going to overperform considerably in international. Better give a chance to the guy that at least is averaging a world class average in domestic, there's a greater chance the same guy will also average near that average in international too.
 
WalkingWiggett said:
Yes, Mr Tuq MBA always did seem solid.

It's not just one recent win though: Misbah's had a pretty decent run since October 2010! :O
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I know that as a member of Tukeminstan. I meant all this recent U-turn based on Poms getting thrashed.


There still be two Tests left, and God forbid those matches aren't to their liking, we all know what's gonna happen........................... :97:
 
Pleaaaase, he still is not a test class batsman. In non gulf / subcontinent conditions he'll still be schooled
 
I don't like his batting and sometimes not his captaincy either ,but never hated him as a captain.
 
Zeeraq said:
You changed your nationality :))), first you go there on a Visit Visa and now you're a residence of tukemanistan :D.
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I have dual nationality now!

My first love will always be the great nation of funland :yk
 
I voted for 1.
Too much hype over him on PP. He is an as bad batsman as you can get. My problem with him is over his poor batting in all forms of the game. More the format is long the worst he become.

Captaincy wise, I don't like his team selection.

The team was winning because we were playing poor opositions, and is winning because we have a good bowling line up with the best spinner in the world.
 
not sure which category I fall into.

never disliked the guy, but definitely thought he was finished.
 
I always knew Misbah was the man. :misbah

Come on mods, don't make this a private poll. Make it public lol
 
I like his batting. While tuking, he makes it looks ridiculously easy.

I choose option nambar 2.
 
It's option no. 2 for me. His poor form as a player had me concerned over his recall, let alone his appointment as captain. I'm glad I was wrong. No matter how we fare in the next matches, I have to thank him for giving stability to the team and performing admirably well ever since his return. Well done.
 
lol, what a daft poll. :bumble

4. Deserved to be captain of Test team and he has done the job well.
 
^^
That's why I have made it private :yk

No, actually I didn't realize it was private. Now I don't know how to make it public. :13:

Either way, let's all be respectful of everyone's views and don't bash 'em (bashing within rules is okay though) :akhtar

I can add more options like KKWC suggested (that I know how to do). You okay with that OP? :yk
 
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Mobashir said:
I voted for 1.
Too much hype over him on PP. He is an as bad batsman as you can get. My problem with him is over his poor batting in all forms of the game. More the format is long the worst he become.

Captaincy wise, I don't like his team selection.

The team was winning because we were playing poor opositions, and is winning because we have a good bowling line up with the best spinner in the world.
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100% agreed... voted 1st option
 
If England come back and win the next two tests then you would have to add even more options. :))

In sport/cricket you are only as good as your last game/series. Ricky Ponting is the most successful captain of all time but a couple of bad series and he's out.

So far so good for Misbah. He has improved over his tenure but still has many challenges to come.
 
Mobashir said:
I voted for 1.
Too much hype over him on PP. He is an as bad batsman as you can get. My problem with him is over his poor batting in all forms of the game. More the format is long the worst he become.
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His half century was a proper old school brilliant test innings. It was vital Pak didn't fold which would have destroyed the great work of the bowlers in the first innings. Younis and Shafiq fell around Misbah who had to knuckle down and make sure Pak get some sort of lead and he did that.

Imo it was the best innings of the match.

Captaincy wise, I don't like his team selection.
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Selection is always debatable but over his tenure Misbah has bought consistency to selection. Something rarely seen over the years in the Pak team.

The team was winning because we were playing poor opositions, and is winning because we have a good bowling line up with the best spinner in the world.
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Sure having a great spinner is help for any skipper. But Pakistan are a talented cricketing nation and all captains before him had some special player(s). It could be argued Misbah has had less special players than previous captains.
 
Haha, agreed.

In sport/cricket you are only as good as your last game/series.
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I have been posting something similar to this everywhere today :misbah

The more the praise, the harsher it gets upon failure :boycott, so be ready for it folks. That's all I am saying.

I hope we can secure a series win, but as I said before, all this new found praise/hype by some (whatever you call it) scares me.
 
Definite #2.

Here is the proof. :)))


kingusama92 said:
Misbah as captain would be horrific. A guy who shouldn't even be in the team as captain would make me puke.

I'd rather have some youngster take the role as skipper. What about Umar Gul or Razzaq instead?
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I have never hated him. When he was appointed captain I didn't go all out saying how rubbish he would be as captain. Rather, waited and watched, and in the end he impressed.

So, option number 3 for me.
 
I always liked him! I started liking him after his innings in 2007 T20 WC Final against India! Almost won us the match single handedly!
 
Mobashir said:
best spinner in the world.
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I don't think you are aware but Misbah got Ajmal into the team in the first place by pushing and recommending for his inclusion to the board in the first place otherwise he'd have been left playing first class cricket for the the rest of his career just like before ... when Misbah was vice captain to Malik in 2008 I'm talking about here
 
used to make jokes about his tuk tuking but never once claimed he was rubbish

i can hold my hand up and say that i felt the wrath of everybody during the semi final in mohali when i defended misbah to no ends lol claiming atleast he made over 50 while everybody else got out
 
I belonged, and still do, to category 4) best captain available, but can't stand his tuk tuk batting. Specially in LOIs. Mohali still fresh in memory.


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violet_may said:
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That's why I have made it private :yk

No, actually I didn't realize it was private. Now I don't know how to make it public. :13:

Either way, let's all be respectful of everyone's views and don't bash 'em (bashing within rules is okay though) :akhtar

I can add more options like KKWC suggested (that I know how to do). You okay with that OP? :yk
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Fine with me :)
 
PakPosheeda said:
I belonged, and still do, to category 4) best captain available, but can't stand his tuk tuk batting. Specially in LOIs. Mohali still fresh in memory.


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It's not about tuk tuk! The longer is the format the worst Misbah's batting is.
 
Yeah ofcourse I was initially disgusted by Misbah's appointment as captain BUT changed my mind during his first stint against the Saffies...

Misbah has been absolutely awsome for Pakistan and is an extremely good ambassador for the team..
 
I never rated his captaincy but i knew he is a great player.

So half piece of Humble pie plz!!
 
There are far too many people that have chosen option 3.... Are you taking advantage of the private poll...?

:)
 
Option number 2 for me.

I never used to hate him but I disliked him. However now he has proved me wrong and I have become a fan.
 
48% are bull s******g here...most people (with the exception of a select few) fall in this category which was not included in the poll:
- Did not know his abilities well enough - thought he was a domestic bully and unsuited for or not good enough for Int'l level
 
Monsee said:
48% are bull s******g here...most people (with the exception of a select few) fall in this category which was not included in the poll:
- Did not know his abilities well enough - thought he was a domestic bully and unsuited for or not good enough for Int'l level
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The mods need to change the poll to be "Public".... :)
 
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