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Which camp do you fall in?

  • 1) I dislike Misbah and always will.

    Votes: 21 10.9%

  • 2) I previously disliked Misbah and now, I know I was wrong.

    Votes: 49 25.4%

  • 3) I always knew Misbah was the man.

    Votes: 123 63.7%
  • Total voters
    193
Savak said:
Dont care if Misbah averages 300 runs from now on or scores 300 runs in an ODI, bottomline his effort at Mohali will never ever be forgotten and there can be no forgiveness from there on.
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Imagine being your fiend and making a mistake! Sheesh...And it's alright for Afridi and his multiple brain farts?
 
mathes? wasent? u need some rest buddy ;)


Yes, it was calculated, just like Mohali... the only difference was the other end, wahab stayed till the end here, while there was no one against India..
 
farz88 said:
lol misbah has played how many games? and how many has sachin played? Misbah doesnt even have a 100.
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It's not like Misbah has only played 10 games. He's played enough for his stats to count, and the fact is, his ODI batting average is within 1 run of Tendulkar's.
 
Savak said:
Dont care if Misbah averages 300 runs from now on or scores 300 runs in an ODI, bottomline his effort at Mohali will never ever be forgotten and there can be no forgiveness from there on.
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Like it or not, he is our best batsman. stop judging him based on semifinal, get over it guys..seriously..

some people I don't get it, so what he did bad @mohali? he is human after all, and after that he has improved and won us matches vs WI.
 
farz88 said:
oh please. All games we were chasing low scores. RRR was like 4 or below in all games. He cam in under pressure today but he had no need to accelerate it suited his tuk tuk game. And again this is against WI, in WC where i mattered he failed everytime he was needed.
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Do you want to check and see in how many low scoring games where Pak chased in the last 2 years they collpased and lost?
 
Misbah has the second highest Pakistan ODI batting average, after Zaheer Abbas.

His ODI average is higher than Ponting's average.
 
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Savak said:
Dont care if Misbah averages 300 runs from now on or scores 300 runs in an ODI, bottomline his effort at Mohali will never ever be forgotten and there can be no forgiveness from there on.
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What about Afridi's effort in that game? Or YK's? If they can be forgiven, why this prejudice against Misbah? Let me guess, he is not exciting in the 'Pakistani' way!!!!

So in short, if Misbah had hit a six and got out, even though Pak lost by 100 runs, he would be forgiven, but if he played sensibly(and so boringly) and brought the team closer to victory but lost, he wouldnt be forgiven
 
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NeVerMind said:
Imagine being your fiend and making a mistake! Sheesh...And it's alright for Afridi and his multiple brain farts?
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Misbah cost Pakistan the most important match ever and plenty of other games prior to the most important game ever. It cannot be forgotten, i have criticized Afridi to but Afridi has won Pakistan more games than Misbah can ever dream off even if he had 20 years to play for Pakistan.

Time to do away with a 38 year old and invest in the future.
 
When it mattered most, Misbah played a strange innings, so whatever he does now is not going to put band-aid on that
 
Misbah has been pakistans best and most stable batsman the past year. Since his return hes been TERRIFIC. I just worry because hes 36 and pakistan need him for another 5 years.
 
I think people are forgetting or deliberately ignoring the fact that the team without Misbah regularly choked in last year, and even failed to chase lowest target, and the way team has had responded in the last year beyond our imagination.

We should be grateful the fact that ever since Misbah came back, the collapse has been put to stop for a while. Even his present in the team actually make a lot difference especially even if we are chasing the lowest target because we couldn't even chase the lowest target in last year, and every lowest target we have failed in last year is therefore not a coincident why the collapse has finally put to stop ever the comeback of Misbah.

Give credit to him, and stop being insecure, bitter and arrogant because at the end, it's us and the nation benefit the most from Misbah service.
Learn to support him when he is in bad form because that can happen anytime considering he is in crazy form right now, and sadly, that doesn't last forever. I hope when the time comes, he better be supported unconditionally because if he gets through bad form, then he will win us more and more matches. That's he, the match winner, under pressure batsman, best fielder, best batsman to chase in under pressure, and very consistent batsman. (now, do we have batsman like him in our team or batsmen who are not in squad right now)
 
Nawaf said:
Like it or not, he is our best batsman. stop judging him based on semifinal, get over it guys..seriously..

some people I don't get it, so what he did bad @mohali? he is human after all, and after that he has improved and won us matches vs WI.
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He hasnt improved, he will never improve. Bring him on the big stage in a crunch game and watch him crawl back into his phattupane, he doesnt cut it for real international games. He has always screwed things up and played only for himself while putting excess pressure on the rest of his team mates.

His history of choking, tuk tuking is easily available in the scorecards if only someone had the spare time, passion to compile it all and expose him.
 
Misbah was putting undue pressure on the other end, hence fall of wkts fro the other end in search of quick runs. 43 dot balls is a Felony!!!
 
Some Misbah haters need to get over themselves. Yes his effort in the WC semi-final was not good enough, calculated it badly wrong. But its time to move on from that. Hes been in good form so he deserves his stay in the team for the time being until some of the youngsters take more responsibility.
 
Savak said:
Misbah cost Pakistan the most important match ever and plenty of other games prior to the most important game ever. It cannot be forgotten, i have criticized Afridi to but Afridi has won Pakistan more games than Misbah can ever dream off even if he had 20 years to play for Pakistan.

Time to do away with a 38 year old and invest in the future.
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Dude, the guy is fit and insh'Allah he will win us many matches in the future too so start getting used to it.
 
Indiafan said:
What about Afridi's effort in that game? Or YK's? If they can be forgiven, why this prejudice against Misbah? Let me guess, he is not exciting in the 'Pakistani' way!!!!

So in short, if Misbah had hit a six and got out, even though Pak lost by 100 runs, he would be forgiven, but if he played sensibly(and so boringly) and brought the team closer to victory but lost, he wouldnt be forgiven
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No one is singing praises for YK or undue praises for a proven match winner like Afridi. In YK's defence he atleast got out trying to up the run rate in comparison to Misbah who had no will or desire to even remotely take the attack to the opposition.

Cant be forgiven, sorry. He has had a history of choking even before the SF WC but that Mohali game was the last straw.
 
Savak said:
Misbah cost Pakistan the most important match ever and plenty of other games prior to the most important game ever. It cannot be forgotten, i have criticized Afridi to but Afridi has won Pakistan more games than Misbah can ever dream off even if he had 20 years to play for Pakistan.

Time to do away with a 38 year old and invest in the future.
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this must be a joke post. We got to a semi final. The other batsman all failed. Why dont u blame them?? At least misbah kept his wicket till the end. He had a bad game but why dont u actually look at his batting stats and average the past year? Hes been our best batsman. Afridi was backed by a quality bowling attafck. Misbah is often a lone fighter.
 
These batting situations in the WI are absolutely perfect for Misbah, no pressure, plenty of time to bat, he loves this.
 
Id be more concerned with the captains brainless slogging in the air.
 
yamibone said:
this must be a joke post. We got to a semi final. The other batsman all failed. Why dont u blame them?? At least misbah kept his wicket till the end. He had a bad game but why dont u actually look at his batting stats and average the past year? Hes been our best batsman. Afridi was backed by a quality bowling attafck. Misbah is often a lone fighter.
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The role that Misbah played in putting pressure on the likes of Umar Akmal, Afridi, Razzaq and on the other batsmen in general cannot be underestimated. If you watch Inzamam's interview, it will be pretty crystal clear.

My reasons for my eternal tirade against Misbah have been well highlighted in the past. The SF was not the first time Misbah choked, he had been choking many times prior to that game in 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 and still found ways to carry the tag of an experienced batsmen in comparison to proven players like Yousaf and Younis.

The guy is not fit enough to shine their shoes. He was never an experienced batsman, in fact a junior batsman who started his career late. Should be discarded immediately as its time to look to the future.
 
Rizzy: "Misbah- I Love You...haters will always hate, you just keep doing your job and make your country proud. Keep soldiering on!"
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Exactly.

Another vital knock from Misbah :14:

He remained composed out there - adviced the young batsmen well (ie Hammad & Wahab) and stayed till the very end, which was vital to Pakistan's important win over WI.

Keep soldiering on Misbah ! :14:
 
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Savak said:
He hasnt improved, he will never improve. Bring him on the big stage in a crunch game and watch him crawl back into his phattupane, he doesnt cut it for real international games. He has always screwed things up and played only for himself while putting excess pressure on the rest of his team mates.

His history of choking, tuk tuking is easily available in the scorecards if only someone had the spare time, passion to compile it all and expose him.
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Because in the same game Misbah failed, legends like Afridi and YK succeded so much, right? Face it, you onlyt dislike him because he does not hit big sixes and is not exciting. In the very matches you mention, if he had hit a couple of sixes and got out, he would be forgiven just like Afridi and others
 
Savak said:
He hasnt improved, he will never improve. Bring him on the big stage in a crunch game and watch him crawl back into his phattupane, he doesnt cut it for real international games. He has always screwed things up and played only for himself while putting excess pressure on the rest of his team mates.

His history of choking, tuk tuking is easily available in the scorecards if only someone had the spare time, passion to compile it all and expose him.
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More rubbish.

This was Misbah's 12th 50 in a winning cause (out of 16 total), and his 15th not out innings in a winning cause (out of 16 total).
 
Dont care for Misbah - semi final loss >>>>>>>>>>>>> any other series

He needs to make up for that with a vital performance against India either in a world cup or in the final against them somewhere.....
 
Savak said:
No one is singing praises for YK or undue praises for a proven match winner like Afridi. In YK's defence he atleast got out trying to up the run rate in comparison to Misbah who had no will or desire to even remotely take the attack to the opposition.

Cant be forgiven, sorry. He has had a history of choking even before the SF WC but that Mohali game was the last straw.
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Proven match winner in what sense? Did Afridi win you the WC semi finals? When you talk about Misbah, thats the match which matters, but when it comes to Afridi, its differnt standards? I would wager that Misbah has won you more matches with his tuk tuk than Afridi has with his agressiveness.

Admit it, you only hate Misbah because he is not 'exciting' while Afridi and Akhtar, even if they lose matches, are exciting
 
In a team with many sloggers, one needs someone who plays a sheet anchor regularly. Misbah does that role effectively.
 
WithLoveFromCanada said:
Dont care for Misbah - semi final loss >>>>>>>>>>>>> any other series

He needs to make up for that with a vital performance against India either in a world cup or in the final against them somewhere.....
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but this same axiom is not applicable for other 'legends' like Afridi and YK. They are heroes no matter what
 
yamibone said:
this must be a joke post. We got to a semi final. The other batsman all failed. Why dont u blame them?? At least misbah kept his wicket till the end. He had a bad game but why dont u actually look at his batting stats and average the past year? Hes been our best batsman. Afridi was backed by a quality bowling attafck. Misbah is often a lone fighter.
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All the other batsmen failed trying to make up for the failures of Misbah and Younis. Those 2 got together and cost us the game. Alteast Younis had the decency to get out, while Misbah just played for his 50. If it wasnt for Misbah Umar, Razzaq wouldnt have had to do what they did. I wont include afridi because he probably would have made a terrible shot.

And if it wasnt for Younis, Asad would not have been under so much pressure. We had such a great start in that game and Younis and Misbah completely destoryed it.

Him now playing a bunch of decent innings under no pressure in games that really dont matter doesn't prove anything. What does matter is that he has choked in the 2 most important games pakistan has played in the last few years.
 
Fellow comrades, let the haterz like Savak and WithLoveFromCanada keep on hating Misbah with a vengeance while the rest of us enjoy matches like the one today (and another series win as against the Kiwis where he played a major hand) and insh'Allah the long awaited test series win against the West Indies...
 
Savak said:
Dont care if Misbah averages 300 runs from now on or scores 300 runs in an ODI, bottomline his effort at Mohali will never ever be forgotten and there can be no forgiveness from there on.
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Well you got it all wrong by shifting the blame on him. The real culprit was our captain
 
insaaniyat said:
No, the buy who didn't know when to take the power play and the way he batted. Anyway past is past. Misbah deserves the credit for this win eventhough captain almost lost us the match again
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True, Afridi is partly to blame for Mohali. As for today's game, De Silva nearly ruined it with a pathetic decision. Afridi is Afridi and will remain so, he can't be coached or changed by any normal human. Accept it.
 
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d0gers said:
We would've been all out before 40 overs, I can guarantee you that much.
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and if misbah had caught the first catch of sachin, india would have been all out before 40 overs as well and then he could have played the most sucking innings of his life and even then we could have won.
 
sully3 said:
I accept your apology we all say stuff in the heat of the moment, I apologise for giving the impression I had a problem with players from Sind . I am a Pakistani and love my country.

i really appreciate your apology and look forward to more debate over fawad : )
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Good to hear you took it in a nice manner :claps: and also your thoughts. Of course we all love Pakistan but credit where its due. I'm sure our paths will cross in many threads for debates :)
 
With regard to Afridi, it's very hard to argue he wasn't a match winner for us in the WC when he's the joint highest wicket taker (with one less game). I know Indians don't appreciate bowling, but c'mon.
 
LowkeyP said:
With regard to Afridi, it's very hard to argue he wasn't a match winner for us in the WC when he's the joint highest wicket taker (with one less game). I know Indians don't appreciate bowling, but c'mon.
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Why don't you apply the same standards to him which you apply to Misbah, i.e, he failed when it mattered the most, in the world cup knock out stages
 
fireworks11 said:
True, Afridi is partly to blame for Mohali. As for today's game, De Silva nearly ruined it with a pathetic decision. Afridi is Afridi and will remain so, he can't be coached or changed by any normal human. Except it.
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double Standards much? Misbah is Misbah and will remain so. Akmal is Akmal and will remain so. Akhtar is Akhtar and will remain so. Lol at people in the past who took a dig at Sachin fans. this post is a prime example of when fans put a player over their country. Let Pakistan lose match after match but we have to let Afridi be Afridi because thats more improtant than Pakistan winning
 
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WithLoveFromCanada said:
and if misbah had caught the first catch of sachin, india would have been all out before 40 overs as well and then he could have played the most sucking innings of his life and even then we could have won.
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Or yuvraj and Dhoni would have come in early if Sachin had got out early and taken the score to 300 with their power hitting
 
Arra reeree rooroo ah! MISBAH! MISBAH!
Arra reeree rooroo ah! MISBAH! MISBAH!

Whattaplaya! :misbah
 
Misbah was a big reason for the loss to India, but he deserves credit for his efforts in this series and the last in NZ. Especially now, his guidance will be key to the youngsters that we are grooming for the future. Might as well support him, guys.
 
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Indiafan said:
double Standards much? Misbah is Misbah and will remain so. Akmal is Akmal and will remain so. Akhtar is Akhtar and will remain so. Lol at people in the past who took a dig at Sachin fans. this post is a prime example of when fans put a player over their country. Let Pakistan lose match after match but we have to let Afridi be Afridi because thats more improtant than Pakistan winning
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I haven’t taken a dig at Sachin fans. I'm just reiterating the truth, which is that Afridi won't change his style/approach etc and will get away with it. Look at Razzaq/YK, both had relatively poor WCs and now they're out of the team, Razzaq somewhat harshly. Pak fans have got used to this over the years; look at Afridi's batting average (23) after so many games. Hence, one shouldn't be surprised.

Winning is what matters, this is the bottom line. No point scoring a century and the team loses. Pak won the game.
 
fireworks11 said:
I haven’t taken a dig at Sachin fans. I'm just reiterating the truth, which is that Afridi won't change his style/approach etc and will get away with it. Look at Razzaq/YK, both had relatively poor WCs and now they're out of the team, Razzaq somewhat harshly. Pak fans have got used to this over the years; look at Afridi's batting average (23) after so many games. Hence, one shouldn't be surprised.

Winning is what matters, this is the bottom line. No point scoring a century and the team loses. Pak won the game.
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Exactly. Lose, when win is a must to survive. Like our cuptaan did and was proud of it. It was an achievement for him to be 3rd or 4th best. Man this guy's expectation is like has batting average. That is scary
 
This is a serious problem with Pakistani fans (with due respect). One bad innings and you hate the player, one good innings and you love the player.
 
I think Misbah's Mohali innings was not as bad as it has been made out to be. The fact that wickets were falling frequently did not help his plan at all. If there was some support from the other end, he could have done better.
 
Howzat said:
I think Misbah's Mohali innings was not as bad as it has been made out to be. The fact that wickets were falling frequently did not help his plan at all. If there was some support from the other end, he could have done better.
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the wickets were falling because of his lack of application to rotate strike putting pressure on youngsters...not the other way around , he was there to drive the procedings and NOT to be reactive rather proactive ..but anyways he is the best we have at the moment so lets keep him
 
insaaniyat said:
Exactly. Lose, when win is a must to survive. Like our cuptaan did and was proud of it. It was an achievement for him to be 3rd or 4th best. Man this guy's expectation is like has batting average. That is scary
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Think the occasion got to Pak, evident by the lack of strategy & planning. Subsided massively under pressure.
 
His form is too good to drop him. He may have a pressure match problem but how many pressure matches are Pakistan likely to play in the next two years? In any case, where are the alternatives?
 
Indiafan said:
Why don't you apply the same standards to him which you apply to Misbah, i.e, he failed when it mattered the most, in the world cup knock out stages
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He played consistently well through out all of our WC games - finished wicketless in the SF but let's not pretend like a catch wasn't dropped off his bowling.

Misbah did not have nearly as spectacular a WC for anyone to view him the same way.

He's done well as Test captain and as a batsmen in series, which he gets credits for. If Misbah was topping the batting charts in the WC as Afridi did the bowling ones, I honestly wouldn't be as harsh on him for his innings as I have been.
 
Howzat said:
This is a serious problem with Pakistani fans (with due respect). One bad innings and you hate the player, one good innings and you love the player.
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lol an oversimplification of things. Whilst I agree theres a lot of fans who are quite knee jerky, the impact of a semi final loss is brutal. Any innings of note or otherwise have that much more impact.

Wahab could bowl badly for a few games and I would never, ever, want him far away from the team.
 
problem with Misbah always remain that he cannot rotate the strike. Yes he wont give his wicket away, but 10 of 35, 15 of 50 puts a lot of pressure on other guys. Smashing 40 of the last 20 then does not make up for that
 
IM NOT YOU said:
never once did the situation call for a run a ball.

thats where his stupidity and lack of talent is exposed. dont be fooled by these meaningless knocks
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These situations never demanded a risk. He had plenty of time to play to play in, hardly any pressure. This is what brings the best out of him, he prefers this, it's his style.
 
Why you guys hate Misbah. Inzamam and Mohammad Yousuf played an absolute idiotic innings in 2007 World Cup match against WI and Ireland which resulted 1st round exit for Pakistan which was a bigger shame then a 2011 WC semi Final. In doonoon ko bhi blame keoro.

Only Misbah was not responsible for the 2011 SF match and its time to move on. Peechay ko paker ker rootay raho gay tu na khud agay jo gay na dosroon ko janay do gay
 
abma2k said:
Yes no doubt but What about WI match?
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That WC was terrible, on and off the field. The loss to Windies was a typical Pakistan chasing failure whilst the Ireland result was a massive shock.

Misbah is being blamed because of his approach in the SF, the lack of rotating the strike which contributed in increasing pressure on the other batsmen. Yes, he was partly to blame for that loss. It was indeed the biggest day of our lives with a tremendous build up, hype, the day of dreams with incredible worldwide interest and Pakistan subsided massively under pressure.

Yes, we should move on in life as you can't change what's happened. However, the Mohali scar will remain as ultimately it was a big opportunity missed. Hence, some fans' remain livid with him.
 
Am not here to degrade any player. But seriously you guys need to grow up.

Some PPers are behaving like 2 years OLD Kid :facepalm:
 
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