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I'll give credit when due. But that doesn't change my opinion of him.
Umar Gul did do worse individually, but Misbah lost it for the whole team.
You could see the effort in Gul, but not in Misbah..
I'll give credit when due. But that doesn't change my opinion of him.
Umar Gul did do worse individually, but Misbah lost it for the whole team.
You could see the effort in Gul, but not in Misbah..
i have had enough of you, like you mention people are watching my posts, and you are the one who is told off by moderators for your post earlier in this thread.
My dis-like for fawad has nothing to do from where he is from. you are the one who had a idiotic rant like proven by a number of posters on this thread.
And record speaks for itself, who replaced fawad in the middle order? Misbah and he is our best batsman since then.
I am a pakistani first then anything else.
Hate is a strong word. However, an emotion of incredible frustration bursts out when the Mohali memory is rekindled.
He has done well sine his comeback, in ODIs & in Tests, as proven today, he does have the brain to guide the team home. Still a solid batsman who at 36, doesn't have too long left in his career. You would think he'll retire from LOIs quite soon.
when it mattered he messed up and choked
I am a Kashmiri, live in England, does that mean I am English?
No.
Anyway, I am sure WLFC is from Karachi, becasue no one else moans about regional bias as far as I have noticed.
There is no Punjab, Sindh , NWFP( Can't spell the new name) , Baluchistan, Kashmir.
There is just Pakistan.
lead us to the t20 final...............................
Its just stupid to say htat he was hoggin the strike. When a batsman hogs a spot, he would hit the ball away, but won't take a run......
when it mattered he messed up and choked
he can average 50 for the rest of his career but he lost us the semi final, you cant change that, none of the slack he got was unnecessary
and your the one who needs to realize what class batsmen are, misbah is a decent, even good batsmen, but hes not class, yousuf was class, inzamam was class, saeed was class........not misbah
IIRC he is averaging more than 50 in ODIs since his comeback.
cannot argue with that.
he's the right fit at 4, 5 was too low for his "patient" style![]()
^^ Blisher007 Both are good posts!
Some really messed up posters here. Gul did worst? how exactly?
atleast he gave his 100% for the team
IIRC he is averaging more than 50 in ODIs since his comeback.
cannot argue with that.
he's the right fit at 4, 5 was too low for his "patient" style![]()
Because he's a convenient scapegoat. People want to be able to blame somebody quickly and forcefully, and hopefully someone on our own team because we can't bear to admit that we got beat by a team that played better than us on the day.I dont understand why pakistani fan hateso much,
Pak batting averages.... Overseas....
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...al2=runs;team=7;template=results;type=batting
^What rubbish. In the semi final he played according to the team plan, which was for him to be there till the very end. And he was successful in the plan while others around him failed. You can't blame batting failures of others on him. You can blame the overall approach but then that's on all parties, coach, captain, vice captain.
Some pics I found on the net.
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TUKKKKKKKKK
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Thank you misbah. You did it again.
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Another Tuk special..
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This guy just has so much variety.
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Misbah Tuk Chart
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If only scoring runs and remaining not out in international cricket was as easy as you imagine it to be!
You might want to change your words again because 11 of his 15 50s have been in team wins.Nice stat.
Change my words to: Misbah's average is always going to be high because he collects useless fifties in his team's defeats.
Sure the team plan wasn't to haveand
play 10 overs worth zero.
Yeah I admit there were too many dot balls early on. But a) you can't blame Misbah for Younis' bad form, and b) you have to give some credit to Dhoni and co for setting good fields and bowling according to the field.Sure the team plan wasn't to haveand
play 10 overs worth zero.
From the other thread:You might want to change your words again because 11 of his 15 50s have been in team wins.
Er say what? What's this 21 game stat? And he's scored 4 50s in games where we lost. You'll really bring those up ahead of the 11 where we've won?Also, he's played some 21 games in his career. That's already 5 games scoring fifty and not getting his team a win. So much for being a finisher with sound temperament.
Yeah I admit there were too many dot balls early on. But a) you can't blame Misbah for Younis' bad form, and b) you have to give some credit to Dhoni and co for setting good fields and bowling according to the field.
These are laughable attempts really. First you say he stays not out in defeats, which isn't the case. Then you say he scores 50s in defeats, which again isn't the case by a long shot. Now it's he scores too slow. He has a career strike rate of ~80 and of 63 innings that he's batted in we've won 40 times, and he averages over 50 in those 40 innings.
Maybe you should just admit that he's a good batsman, who wasn't quite at his best in the semi final? Why resort to fabricating facts?
Yeah dropped catch was a big setback.a) I am NOT blaming Misbah for Younis' bad form. Have said time and again that the two are to be blamed for shoddy fielding and then [their] miserable batting
b) Dhoni was good with his field settings, the bowlers bowled according to the field and the fielding was good too. However, Pakistan were on top considering the very good start [by Pakistani standards] that they'd gotten. It was all set ofand
to take over from there and finish the chase.
Misbah's faults:
- Dropped catch
- An innings so slow that it robbed the team of much needed momentum. As Asad succumbed to Younis' lack of scoring, Umar succumbed to Misbah's tuk-tuk
- Complete refusal to rotate strike. As one of the main batsman in the side he was needed right till the end but that doesn't mean he was required to play out maidens chasing 260.
Not asking for three boundaries an over but yaar, singles toh lo!
Yeah dropped catch was a big setback.
As for batting I honestly would blame Younis more. He ate up all those deliveries, which is okay if you're going to make up for it later, but then he got out. Misbah, sure he could've been a bit more proactive. Lekin you can't pin Umar Akmal's dismissal on him. He got a good ball, one he thought would be an off-break but instead was the arm ball and went straight-on. Misbah didn't make that happen. Similarly kuptaan sahab skied a full toss to cover, something he'd hit for 6 nine times out of ten. Again can't blame Misbah.
We probably should've split Misbah and Younis up in that innings, given how out of touch Younis was looking. And we should've taken the Powerplay earlier, when Umar Akmal was still batting.
Anyway, seems people want to ignore everything else and make Misbah the scapegoat.
Scapegoat among fans on here I meant. If you were to take a poll and ask somebody for the #1 reason we lost the semi-final, I'm sure the majority will froth at the moment as they say "Misbah tuk tuk."
Scapegoat among fans on here I meant. If you were to take a poll and ask somebody for the #1 reason we lost the semi-final, I'm sure the majority will froth at the moment as they say "Misbah tuk tuk."
What a joke of a thread.
Useless player now, only performs when not under pressure, and when under pressure, he blocks until the pressure is off, basically, because the game is over.
Get rid of this useless crap.
Scapegoat among fans on here I meant. If you were to take a poll and ask somebody for the #1 reason we lost the semi-final, I'm sure the majority will froth at the mouth as they say "Misbah tuk tuk."
in order to force pressure onto the bowlers one MUST rotate strike and find ways to keep the scoreboard ticking.
misbah ul haq played such a dramatically defensive innings, that from the point he was introduced until the point he got out the run rate required rose from 6.07 to 36++++.
he came in with 158 runs needed off 26 overs with 7 wickets and a power play in hand.
he made 17 off 42 from that point and pushed the required rate up from 6.07to 8.45 and lost 3 partners, 2 of whom were pressured to play faster because of his slow play and the other being younus khan, the other crap player responsible for the loss.
with the run rate creeping toward 9, this is what misbah was doing.
37.2
Yuvraj Singh to Misbah-ul-Haq, no run, flighted up on off stump, Misbah stretches out and unfurls a forward defensive that would not be out of place in a Test match
37.3
Yuvraj Singh to Misbah-ul-Haq, 1 run, this one rushes on with the arm, Misbah nudges in front of square on the leg side for a single
by this time, the run rate required is creeping toward the roof...how does misbah respond in a WORLD CUP MATCH under pressure to increase the rate with afridi by his side......
39.5
Yuvraj Singh to Misbah-ul-Haq, 1 run, nudged into the leg side
40.6
Khan to Misbah-ul-Haq, 1 run, this looked slower through the air, dipping on the batsman at the last moment. Misbah nudges through square leg for a single
Harbhajan comes back. Pakistan need 80 off 54
41.1
Harbhajan Singh to Misbah-ul-Haq, no run, Bhajji comes round the wicket, Misbah nurdles straight to the fielder on the leg side and for some reason both he and Afridi look eager for a single. Absolutely no chance
im sorry but there is absolutely NO EXCUSE for such a rediculously irresponsible and slow innings by a vice captain of 35 years of age and years of international experience in such a high profile match against a mediocre talent bowling attack.
misbah proved his lack of worth in a run chase requiring guts, calculation, and planning on the go, and FAILED as a middle order batsman for pakistan. he lost us the world cup and i see no reason why he deserves to be in the team when our upcoming youngsters have proven that our domestic system does have some merit attached to batting averages.
get grandpa out and plan for the future. give his spot to fawad alam or another youth and prepare to play the next world cup match 4 years from now. no need to reward tried and tested crap for such a nonsense innings and complete selfish failure against our arch rival in the world cup.
in order to force pressure onto the bowlers one MUST rotate strike and find ways to keep the scoreboard ticking.
misbah ul haq played such a dramatically defensive innings, that from the point he was introduced until the point he got out the run rate required rose from 6.07 to 36++++.
he came in with 158 runs needed off 26 overs with 7 wickets and a power play in hand.
he made 17 off 42 from that point and pushed the required rate up from 6.07to 8.45 and lost 3 partners, 2 of whom were pressured to play faster because of his slow play and the other being younus khan, the other crap player responsible for the loss.
with the run rate creeping toward 9, this is what misbah was doing.
37.2
Yuvraj Singh to Misbah-ul-Haq, no run, flighted up on off stump, Misbah stretches out and unfurls a forward defensive that would not be out of place in a Test match
37.3
Yuvraj Singh to Misbah-ul-Haq, 1 run, this one rushes on with the arm, Misbah nudges in front of square on the leg side for a single
by this time, the run rate required is creeping toward the roof...how does misbah respond in a WORLD CUP MATCH under pressure to increase the rate with afridi by his side......
39.5
Yuvraj Singh to Misbah-ul-Haq, 1 run, nudged into the leg side
40.6
Khan to Misbah-ul-Haq, 1 run, this looked slower through the air, dipping on the batsman at the last moment. Misbah nudges through square leg for a single
Harbhajan comes back. Pakistan need 80 off 54
41.1
Harbhajan Singh to Misbah-ul-Haq, no run, Bhajji comes round the wicket, Misbah nurdles straight to the fielder on the leg side and for some reason both he and Afridi look eager for a single. Absolutely no chance
im sorry but there is absolutely NO EXCUSE for such a rediculously irresponsible and slow innings by a vice captain of 35 years of age and years of international experience in such a high profile match against a mediocre talent bowling attack.
misbah proved his lack of worth in a run chase requiring guts, calculation, and planning on the go, and FAILED as a middle order batsman for pakistan. he lost us the world cup and i see no reason why he deserves to be in the team when our upcoming youngsters have proven that our domestic system does have some merit attached to batting averages.
get grandpa out and plan for the future. give his spot to fawad alam or another youth and prepare to play the next world cup match 4 years from now. no need to reward tried and tested crap for such a nonsense innings and complete selfish failure against our arch rival in the world cup.
M I S B A H - Mohali Is Slow Blocking And Hiding.
^^ you came up with it?
MISBAH
May Ishi-tarha Sust Batting Azmaata Hooon
MISBAH
May Ishi-tarha Sust Batting Azmaata Hooon
sully3 - I apologize for my earlier comments. I'm doing that in my own capacity even though nobody asked me to do so. I was right or wrong that I wont comment about but I felt bad about it later in the night as I dont have a personality to have problems/grudge with anyone. Cheers.
Misbah will always be remembered for his two WC innings... No matter how many matches he wins for Pakistan.
today misbah played well, but i dont agree that without misbah we would have lost all the previous matches, i still think misbah is good against the minnows, not a reliable one against good teams, and secondly he is way old