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Pakistani cricketers can learn a lot from this.
Sad state of affairs
Sad state of affairs
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Mitchell Starc happy to choose country over lucrative IPL contract
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JaDed
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Pakistani cricketers can learn a lot from this.
Sad state of affairs
What should they learn? Place your name , take out your name and publicize the news? I think Asad can do that if it would make people happy..
Technics 1210
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Oh please, get over your insecure self.
I despise ALL forms of T20 mercenary cricket.
Accept India is losing it's clout and move on.
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There is nothing wrong in putting your country over pajama leagues. IPL stats have no standing at all whereas International statistics can make a superstar.
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lol ive not followed the thread but Starc is the best limited overs pacer going around and its a joke that he wont be in demand in the IPL.
and just to add on to this. Simple google search reveals the truth [MENTION=38544]Indianfan[/MENTION].
Starc was never fired. For 2018 IPL he had the SECOND highest contract for for any Aussie bettered only by Chris Lynn. He got injured and withdrew due to injury and didnt join last year.
Atleast use facts to make fantasy claims
Starc is ranked 42 in T20Is... and he has played just 9 T20Is in the last four years.
Shows a thing doesn't it ? The guy is clearly deprioritising the format.
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Oh dearie lord..what will happen to IPL now that Starc's gone. 
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He was fired by KKR before the 2019 season.
He stated that he was released from his contract and informed via a text message.
A simple google search will tell you this.
Slog
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He was KKR's first pick in the last auction he participated in and the 2nd highest paid Aussie. He got injured and hence didnt play.
To say that IPL sides wont be interested in him is ridiculous and laughable.
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No he was not.
He was released from his contract in 2018 and informed via a text message. This happened in nov 2018.
https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/au.s...s-1-8-million-via-text-message-000824088.html
He didnot participate in the 2019 auctions.
Yes ipl will not be interested in players whose availability is suspect.
This is the IPL, its not a struggling league hoping to get few stars.
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Not that. I wish Pakistani players choose playing for their country as their main priority and not for T20 leagues (e.g. Amir)
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Lot of Indians get defensive about IPL since it has "indian" attached to it. They look at it as some sort of nationalistic accomplishment. But the fact of the matter is, it's just a cheap marketing tactic to get billion people watch it and make money off of it.
Why are those cheerleaders foreign, not Indian? Why has been there been instances of sport-fixing? Do you guys really think those foreign players come here because they love India or something?
All this is nothing more than a money grabbing ponzi scheme.
Why are those cheerleaders foreign, not Indian? Why has been there been instances of sport-fixing? Do you guys really think those foreign players come here because they love India or something?
All this is nothing more than a money grabbing ponzi scheme.
cricketjoshila
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The grapes are sour.
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The idea of any business entity is based upon this. Not sure what's so wrong about it?
People want to watch.
Investors want return.
Where is it falls short in moral compass?
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Because Indians think IPL is a natural treasure that has to be defended at all cost.
Doesn’t make sense to me since neither the players nor the franchise owners give two hoot about India or Indians.
It’s only about money and Indians have nothing to do with it except making them cash.
I just don’t get it where all this fake pride comes from.
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Because cricket itself is global sport so there might be international viewers watching it too.
And it’s a direct copycat. Delhi daredevil? Lol
And what about those blonde cheerleaders? You guys need to get brain MRI if you think otherwise.
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I'm not Indian so I have no reason to defend the IPL, nor do I care about the IPL. Not saying there aren't any overlaps in IPL and American model, rather I find more similarities with the European model than American.
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Atleast ipl is filling players pocket,,these cheerleaders will never understand that money has its own value.
What about kolpak,atleast we arent snatching them from their country?but no there is no hype about it .
Ipl is doing a very fine job the only thing it needs to do is shorten its length to 30 days.
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What about kolpak,atleast we arent snatching them from their country?but no there is no hype about it .
Ipl is doing a very fine job the only thing it needs to do is shorten its length to 30 days.
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Here is Americans making fun of IPL..
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^^ The host is a Turkish-American 
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So? He is American last time I checked.. Runs very successful YT channel over 4 million subscribers.
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^^The last time I checked he was born in Turkey and immigrated to America at the age of 8.
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That means nothing as far as him being American is concerned. And as I said, he has one of the most successful YT channels and is very respected online media personality. He covers wide verity of social and political topics. In fact, IPL fans should be happy because that's all the global coverage they will receive.
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This is the type of behavior I don't understand. Indians feel like they are shareholders in IPL. I posted the video and one of the cheerleader is now trying to defend by saying the guy isn't american which he clearly is.
And even if the guy was Turkish, would that really make any difference? I mean he won't comment on the content of the video since he knows he can't defend it so now he will bring things into argument that shouldn't even matter.
These are the people I was talking about in my posts. Fake pride that has no meaning. Embarrassing really.
And even if the guy was Turkish, would that really make any difference? I mean he won't comment on the content of the video since he knows he can't defend it so now he will bring things into argument that shouldn't even matter.
These are the people I was talking about in my posts. Fake pride that has no meaning. Embarrassing really.
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^^ Don't think the BCCI or the IPL fans care about global coverage. That was never the objective in the first place. The game itself is not a global sport, so how can any such league receive global coverage?
However, each and every objective that the BCCI ever wanted to achieve with regards to the IPL was achieved from it's very first edition itself in 2008. They wanted the league to be the most successful cricket league, make them tons of money, have a separate window allotted to it. What more is there for it to achieve?
However, each and every objective that the BCCI ever wanted to achieve with regards to the IPL was achieved from it's very first edition itself in 2008. They wanted the league to be the most successful cricket league, make them tons of money, have a separate window allotted to it. What more is there for it to achieve?
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I’m part Indian, I have the most balanced viewpoint in this entire forum.
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IPL is just a bit of fun. Some people over rate how good it is but some go OTT the other way by making out as though it's rubbish. The biggest players in the world playing against each other is pretty entertaining. If they are taking it seriously that should be respected .
I just enjoy seeing stuff like AB and Kohli vs Bumrah, Rabada, etc.
Just enjoy the cricket. If you don't like IPL just ignore it. There's also no need to ovverate it as well as their is some dead games and poor local talent. It's all about being fair in critiscm. One thing I find funny is how posters have to make us aware they don't watch or don't care about the IPL yet it is still followed by a lot of people lol.
I just enjoy seeing stuff like AB and Kohli vs Bumrah, Rabada, etc.
Just enjoy the cricket. If you don't like IPL just ignore it. There's also no need to ovverate it as well as their is some dead games and poor local talent. It's all about being fair in critiscm. One thing I find funny is how posters have to make us aware they don't watch or don't care about the IPL yet it is still followed by a lot of people lol.
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Australian pacer Mitchell Starc has furnished video footage of the second Test against South Africa in 2018 to prove that he got injured real-time and deserves an insurance payout of USD 1.53 million for losing his IPL deal with Kolkata Knight Riders.
Starc had filed a lawsuit against his insurers in April last year. The insurers, however, had disputed the timing of the injury in second Test at Port Elizabeth.
The ‘Sydney Morning Herald’ reported that civil trial has been rescheduled to August 12 after mediation talks broke down last month when Starc’s manager Andrew Fraser provided footage from Fox Sports of the speedster bowling in the second Test.
The left-arm pacer had bagged a USD 1.8 million contract ahead of the 2018 IPL.
“The delay came after lawyers for the insurers argued they did not have enough time to assess the footage from March 10, one clip lasting one minute 37 seconds, and the second 7:25 minutes,” the newspaper report said.
However, Starc’s legal team argued that the insurers had 13 months to “review the case and seek footage.”
Starc needs to prove that “he suffered a single, sudden and unexpected event which occurred at an identifiable time and place”.
Both sides have filed medical reports claiming the opposite.
Starc took the help of orthopaedic surgeon Russel Miller, who said the injury was “complex and multifactorial” but “it is likely, on the balance of probabilities, that at specific injury occurred on 10/03/2018 which was associated with extreme physical activity including bowling on a pitch with uneven footmarks’.”
Doctor Seamus Dalton, on behalf of the insurer, said: “In my opinion the plaintiff did not suffer an injury or accident on 10 March 2018. Mr Starc became aware of the onset of right posterior and posteriolateral calf pain during the course of the second Test. Onset appears to have been gradual and symptoms continued over the course of the Test.”
https://indianexpress.com/article/s...sd-1-43-million-ipl-insurance-payout-6469303/
Starc had filed a lawsuit against his insurers in April last year. The insurers, however, had disputed the timing of the injury in second Test at Port Elizabeth.
The ‘Sydney Morning Herald’ reported that civil trial has been rescheduled to August 12 after mediation talks broke down last month when Starc’s manager Andrew Fraser provided footage from Fox Sports of the speedster bowling in the second Test.
The left-arm pacer had bagged a USD 1.8 million contract ahead of the 2018 IPL.
“The delay came after lawyers for the insurers argued they did not have enough time to assess the footage from March 10, one clip lasting one minute 37 seconds, and the second 7:25 minutes,” the newspaper report said.
However, Starc’s legal team argued that the insurers had 13 months to “review the case and seek footage.”
Starc needs to prove that “he suffered a single, sudden and unexpected event which occurred at an identifiable time and place”.
Both sides have filed medical reports claiming the opposite.
Starc took the help of orthopaedic surgeon Russel Miller, who said the injury was “complex and multifactorial” but “it is likely, on the balance of probabilities, that at specific injury occurred on 10/03/2018 which was associated with extreme physical activity including bowling on a pitch with uneven footmarks’.”
Doctor Seamus Dalton, on behalf of the insurer, said: “In my opinion the plaintiff did not suffer an injury or accident on 10 March 2018. Mr Starc became aware of the onset of right posterior and posteriolateral calf pain during the course of the second Test. Onset appears to have been gradual and symptoms continued over the course of the Test.”
https://indianexpress.com/article/s...sd-1-43-million-ipl-insurance-payout-6469303/
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Starc always seems like he is very committed to national team. This type of loyalty is missing from many of the present T20 superstars.
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He had insurance for his IPL Paycheque. No wonder he found it easy to prioritize country over the IPL. Would love to have seen his position if he didn't have insurance. We are already seeing the desperation on David Warner's part to play in the IPL as he doesn't have the same kind of insurance
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When 47 Australians go up for sale at this weekend's Indian Premier League 'mega-auction', the name Mitchell Starc will again be conspicuously absent.
For the fourth year in a row, Starc has turned down the chance of a multi-million-dollar contract at the world's richest cricket tournament, choosing instead to spend time with family in Sydney and keep his body fresh for Australia's commitments later in the year.
Starc, who will feature in Australia's opening T20 against Sri Lanka at the SCG tonight, is a well-paid international cricketer, but it's estimated his decision to shun the IPL has likely been a sacrifice of at least $10 million in potential earnings since he last played in the tournament back in 2015.
In the past two auctions alone, he has watched teammates Pat Cummins and Jhye Richardson be purchased for a combined fee of A$5.6m, underlining how valuable the left-armer would be on the open market.
"I was a click of the button away from entering the auction but personally didn't want to spend 22 more weeks in a bubble," he said of this weekend's two-day auction, which will be broadcast in Australia on Fox Cricket and Kayo Sports from 5.30pm AEDT on Saturday and Sunday.
"There will be a time where I'd love to go back to the IPL but in terms of wanting to play as much as I can for Australia, that's a decision I've done for a while."
Having been picked up in the 2014 auction for A$888,000 by Royal Challengers Bangalore, the left-armer played two seasons for RCB before missing the 2016 tournament due to injury.
He chose to not enter the 2017 auction, which saw English left-armer Tymal Mills purchased for an eye-watering fee of A$2.3 million (Starc ultimately would have missed the tournament anyway due to injury).
Having been bought by the Kolkata Knight Riders for A$1.8m in 2018, Starc again missed out due injury, which sparked a protracted legal battle with an insurance firm that was finally settled in 2020.
He joined most of Australia's players in skipping the 2019 tournament ahead of that year's World Cup, with Indian left-arm quick Jaydev Unadkat the most expensive fast bowler purchased at that year's auction, going for A$1.7m.
In 2020, Starc again chose to not participate despite attracting interest from several franchises. It sparked a fierce bidding war for his fast-bowling countryman Cummins, who was purchased for a record fee of A$3.17 million.
The prices paid for West Indian Sheldon Cottrell (A$1.65m) and Nathan Coulter-Nile (A$1.6m) in that auction emphasise how big a pay day Starc had chosen to miss.
Similarly, the money spent last year on Richardson (A$2.5m) as well as Kiwi Kyle Jamieson (A$2.7m) and Riley Meredith (A$1.4m) prove how valuable international fast bowlers are among IPL club owners.
But his IPL absence last year did result in a win of a different kind; having skipped the tournament and subsequently taken part in Australia's winter tour of the Caribbean and Bangladesh, Starc played enough games and accrued enough votes to be crowned the Allan Border Medallist last month.
His status as a committed and prolific bowler for his country is undisputed. Since he last played in the IPL in 2015, only South Africa’s Kagiso Rabada has taken more wickets in international cricket than Starc.
And having lost his father to cancer last year and having barely seen his family since last June – including brother Brandon, who recently had a baby boy – the 32-year-old has understandably decided to put them first once again ahead of another busy year of international cricket.
Australians in the 2022 IPL auction
Base price of 200 lakh (approx. A$377,000)
Pat Cummins, David Warner, Steve Smith, Mitch Marsh, Matthew Wade, Josh Hazlewood, Adam Zampa, Nathan Coulter-Nile, Ashton Agar
Base price of 150 lakh (approx. A$283,000)
Aaron Finch, Chris Lynn, Usman Khawaja, Kane Richardson
Base price of 100 lakh (approx. A$189,000)
Marnus Labuschagne, Daniel Sams, Andrew Tye, Moises Henriques, Riley Meredith, James Faulkner, D'Arcy Short, Josh Philippe
Base price of 75 lakh (approx. A$142,000)
Nathan Ellis, Jason Behrendorff, Sean Abbott, Billy Stanlake, Ben Cutting
Base price of 50 lakh (approx. A$94,000)
Ben McDermott, Kurtis Patterson, Wes Agar, Jack Wildermuth, Joel Paris, Hilton Cartwright
Base price of 40 lakh (approx. A$75,000)
Tim David, Chris Green
Base price of 30 lakh (approx. A$57,000)
Ben Dwarshuis, Matt Kelly
Base price of 20 lakh (approx. A$38,000)
Hayden Kerr, Tanveer Sangha, Alex Ross, Jake Weatherald, Nathan McAndrew, Tom Rogers, Liam Guthrie, Liam Hatcher, Jason Sangha, Matt Short, Aidan Cahill
https://www.cricket.com.au/news/mit...e-earnings-australia-sri-lanka-t20/2022-02-11
For the fourth year in a row, Starc has turned down the chance of a multi-million-dollar contract at the world's richest cricket tournament, choosing instead to spend time with family in Sydney and keep his body fresh for Australia's commitments later in the year.
Starc, who will feature in Australia's opening T20 against Sri Lanka at the SCG tonight, is a well-paid international cricketer, but it's estimated his decision to shun the IPL has likely been a sacrifice of at least $10 million in potential earnings since he last played in the tournament back in 2015.
In the past two auctions alone, he has watched teammates Pat Cummins and Jhye Richardson be purchased for a combined fee of A$5.6m, underlining how valuable the left-armer would be on the open market.
"I was a click of the button away from entering the auction but personally didn't want to spend 22 more weeks in a bubble," he said of this weekend's two-day auction, which will be broadcast in Australia on Fox Cricket and Kayo Sports from 5.30pm AEDT on Saturday and Sunday.
"There will be a time where I'd love to go back to the IPL but in terms of wanting to play as much as I can for Australia, that's a decision I've done for a while."
Having been picked up in the 2014 auction for A$888,000 by Royal Challengers Bangalore, the left-armer played two seasons for RCB before missing the 2016 tournament due to injury.
He chose to not enter the 2017 auction, which saw English left-armer Tymal Mills purchased for an eye-watering fee of A$2.3 million (Starc ultimately would have missed the tournament anyway due to injury).
Having been bought by the Kolkata Knight Riders for A$1.8m in 2018, Starc again missed out due injury, which sparked a protracted legal battle with an insurance firm that was finally settled in 2020.
He joined most of Australia's players in skipping the 2019 tournament ahead of that year's World Cup, with Indian left-arm quick Jaydev Unadkat the most expensive fast bowler purchased at that year's auction, going for A$1.7m.
In 2020, Starc again chose to not participate despite attracting interest from several franchises. It sparked a fierce bidding war for his fast-bowling countryman Cummins, who was purchased for a record fee of A$3.17 million.
The prices paid for West Indian Sheldon Cottrell (A$1.65m) and Nathan Coulter-Nile (A$1.6m) in that auction emphasise how big a pay day Starc had chosen to miss.
Similarly, the money spent last year on Richardson (A$2.5m) as well as Kiwi Kyle Jamieson (A$2.7m) and Riley Meredith (A$1.4m) prove how valuable international fast bowlers are among IPL club owners.
But his IPL absence last year did result in a win of a different kind; having skipped the tournament and subsequently taken part in Australia's winter tour of the Caribbean and Bangladesh, Starc played enough games and accrued enough votes to be crowned the Allan Border Medallist last month.
His status as a committed and prolific bowler for his country is undisputed. Since he last played in the IPL in 2015, only South Africa’s Kagiso Rabada has taken more wickets in international cricket than Starc.
And having lost his father to cancer last year and having barely seen his family since last June – including brother Brandon, who recently had a baby boy – the 32-year-old has understandably decided to put them first once again ahead of another busy year of international cricket.
Australians in the 2022 IPL auction
Base price of 200 lakh (approx. A$377,000)
Pat Cummins, David Warner, Steve Smith, Mitch Marsh, Matthew Wade, Josh Hazlewood, Adam Zampa, Nathan Coulter-Nile, Ashton Agar
Base price of 150 lakh (approx. A$283,000)
Aaron Finch, Chris Lynn, Usman Khawaja, Kane Richardson
Base price of 100 lakh (approx. A$189,000)
Marnus Labuschagne, Daniel Sams, Andrew Tye, Moises Henriques, Riley Meredith, James Faulkner, D'Arcy Short, Josh Philippe
Base price of 75 lakh (approx. A$142,000)
Nathan Ellis, Jason Behrendorff, Sean Abbott, Billy Stanlake, Ben Cutting
Base price of 50 lakh (approx. A$94,000)
Ben McDermott, Kurtis Patterson, Wes Agar, Jack Wildermuth, Joel Paris, Hilton Cartwright
Base price of 40 lakh (approx. A$75,000)
Tim David, Chris Green
Base price of 30 lakh (approx. A$57,000)
Ben Dwarshuis, Matt Kelly
Base price of 20 lakh (approx. A$38,000)
Hayden Kerr, Tanveer Sangha, Alex Ross, Jake Weatherald, Nathan McAndrew, Tom Rogers, Liam Guthrie, Liam Hatcher, Jason Sangha, Matt Short, Aidan Cahill
https://www.cricket.com.au/news/mit...e-earnings-australia-sri-lanka-t20/2022-02-11
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Andrew McDonald on Mitchell Starc's upcoming 100th Test match:
"You look to some of the IPLs that he's missed to get his body right to play for Australia. He's put a lot of work into it. I'm really proud of him and he's getting his great reward for what he's given up and the way he's gone about it. All the plaudits that are coming his way this week he deserves"
"You look to some of the IPLs that he's missed to get his body right to play for Australia. He's put a lot of work into it. I'm really proud of him and he's getting his great reward for what he's given up and the way he's gone about it. All the plaudits that are coming his way this week he deserves"
It is easy for nationally contracted Aus and Eng established cricketers to forego IPL and other leagues. They are well compensated even without IPL salary.
Cannot hold Pak, SL, SA, NZ, WI players to same standard. Most of these boards simply cannot compensate at this level
Cannot hold Pak, SL, SA, NZ, WI players to same standard. Most of these boards simply cannot compensate at this level
Mitchell Starc has a supportive board which has looked after all his health concerns. His wife is also elite sportsperson and centrally contracted.
He will get chances to go into a broadcasting career post retirement and his wife is already an established and successful podcaster.
This athlete was able to enjoy 13-14 years of high profile cricket and the cricketing setup in Australia identified him early, developed him and supported him to be the best player he could ne.
Compare that to the likes of a Haris Rauf. Came from nowhere in his late 20s. Got catapulted to big stage by PSL and BBL. He has at best a shelf life of 6-7 years in which to earn because there are very limited post career prospects for players who are not very polished in speaking skills or whose education level is a challenge for them to pursue coaching credentials. He deals with a board which has a history of medical mismanagement and short term thinking.
Why would we begrudge likes of Haris opportunity to make money in leagues and try and hold him to the standard of Starc. Is PCB being held to that standard?
He will get chances to go into a broadcasting career post retirement and his wife is already an established and successful podcaster.
This athlete was able to enjoy 13-14 years of high profile cricket and the cricketing setup in Australia identified him early, developed him and supported him to be the best player he could ne.
Compare that to the likes of a Haris Rauf. Came from nowhere in his late 20s. Got catapulted to big stage by PSL and BBL. He has at best a shelf life of 6-7 years in which to earn because there are very limited post career prospects for players who are not very polished in speaking skills or whose education level is a challenge for them to pursue coaching credentials. He deals with a board which has a history of medical mismanagement and short term thinking.
Why would we begrudge likes of Haris opportunity to make money in leagues and try and hold him to the standard of Starc. Is PCB being held to that standard?
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Bumrah should learn from him.
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But he's the greatest bowler ever alreadyBumrah should learn from him.
But MI are his primary employers. BCCI is a second job.Bumrah should learn from him.
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STarc is a workhorse.. These guys prefer test cricket and play red ball domestic cricket also to sharpen their skills. Starc is a legend already...
