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He doesnt need any introduction.

But what i want to say is that if he could dominate india in india then i think he is one of the best.

Even though he is nt express fast but you know what i mean
 
I really rate this guy, much better than overrated Patterson
 
Starc is fantastic. In a couple of years Australia are gonna have one scary attack..three McGraths in Cummins, Starc and pattinson
 
He is one of the top limited overs bowlers going around. Still needs to really prove himself in test cricket, frightening potential with his 6 feet 6 height and the swing he gets, brilliant to watch when he gets it right.
 
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ahmed778 said:
Cummins,Starc and Pattinson all have the potential to be better than McGrath,Lee and Gillespie.
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LOL.... as a group maybe.. but there's no way in hell any of these guys are going to be better than Mcgrath. There's only been one seamer who has unarguably been better than Mcgrath in the history of the game.
 
ahmed778 said:
Cummins,Starc and Pattinson all have the potential to be better than McGrath,Lee and Gillespie.
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provided they stay fit. One of the great things about McGrath and also Courtney walsh for that matter is how they hardly ever missed test matches. I am sure they could have gone on a bit longer if they wanted..I can remember McGrath only missing one entire season
 
Abid Z said:
provided they stay fit. One of the great things about McGrath and also Courtney walsh for that matter is how they hardly ever missed test matches. I am sure they could have gone on a bit longer if they wanted..I can remember McGrath only missing one entire season
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If CA can manage their workload they can surely stay fit barring Cummins whose body is still developing , as none of them have a fragile body.
 
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vandokkum said:
LOL.... as a group maybe.. but there's no way in hell any of these guys are going to be better than Mcgrath. There's only been one seamer who has unarguably been better than Mcgrath in the history of the game.
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I was talking about them as a group.
All three have the potential to be better than Gillespie,Lee and Clark individually.
 
The next Wasim Akram for sure. That late inswing is just lethal. Its almost like Steyn's outswinger to the right hander. Just moves prodigiously after pitching, that is tough to play at 140 km/hr plus. I hope he increases his pace further without compromising his swing unlike Mitchel Johnson. Johnson's place should be reviewed, i think he is no longer the same bowler he used to be.
 
just imagine, 1 yr ago and now. How much has he improved, He wasnt getting that much swing last yr in the tri series against india n lanka
 
Re: Mitchell Starc-seems like he is the next big thing

Great bowler. Has that X-factor everybody talks about. Will be worth watching in the Ashes.
 
Would like to see him in the Ashes and the upcoming India tour before passing judgement.
 
where did I say he is Wasim Akram or even close to him , I said his pint point swinging Yorkers remind of bit of Wasim Akram.

I am saying that he got potential to be real handful
 
Talking Wickets in Perth vs WI Bating will not make him Next big thing
he has to stay fit for long time and have to take wickets in Asain conditions to not only in Perth

I still fell Junaid khan is Comparable to Starc
and u guys will see in near future Junaid khan is also Next big thing
 
Random Aussie said:
Junaid Khan 9 Tests, 29 wickets at 28.17

James Pattinson 7 Tests, 31 wickets at 22.09

So, it appears you may be incorrect....
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Junaid played Most of His test,s in Asia on Died pitches taken three five wicket hauls on died pitches
Pattinson Has did well against Weak team like NL
 
Ive always thought he had a lot of potential, hes tall, great action and can swing it in.

Hes got a great future ahead of him
 
HASHAM2 said:
Junaid played Most of His test,s in Asia on Died pitches taken three five wicket hauls on died pitches
Pattinson Has did well against Weak team like NL
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Weak team beat Australia in Australia and Sri Lanka in Sri Lanka both which your team couldn't do. it would help if you show us a teensy bit of respect.
 
Initially, I thought he was the weakest of the lot(Patto, Cummins, Starc) with his tendency to bowl back of length. However, he seems to have rectified the problem and it is pleasing to see him bowl full and looking to swing it. I feel that Trott would struggle a bit against Starc as he does not quite open his stance up when facing lefties who are bringing the ball back in.
 
Gunther said:
Initially, I thought he was the weakest of the lot(Patto, Cummins, Starc) with his tendency to bowl back of length. However, he seems to have rectified the problem and it is pleasing to see him bowl full and looking to swing it. I feel that Trott would struggle a bit against Starc as he does not quite open his stance up when facing lefties who are bringing the ball back in.
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i dont Think Starc will play in Ashes test,s if he not did well in India
 
Random Aussies@
Junaid Khan has Bowled Amazingly well in india vs India
Let see how Your Patto will bowl there :D
 
against pakistan in an extremely hot and humid august in uae

look at the carry with the first wicket in early spell with new ball

bowling around 140 in such conditions


[UTUBE]5gOem_06h5k[/UTUBE]
 
Starc is better than junaid no doubt, he can bowl that inswinger at will, junaid is still learning it, plus he gets extra bounce and is about 5k quicker.
 
speed said:
Starc is better than junaid no doubt, he can bowl that inswinger at will, junaid is still learning it, plus he gets extra bounce and is about 5k quicker.
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Starc maybe better than Junaid
But Junaid is better than Pattinson
 
I have not seen Starc bowl an outswinger yet. Junaid moved the ball both ways in comparison.
 
Plus in Starcs case it helps when he has 2-3 bowlers bowling well in tandum not to take anything away from him tho.
 
Savak said:
I have not seen Starc bowl an outswinger yet. Junaid moved the ball both ways in comparison.
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check out this dude, one of the best and magical delivery you will ever see, it was Asif like to Clarke, poetry in motion. #BallofThe2012

it loook like ball is about go away from chanderpual when it pitches and suddenly it comes into Chanderpaul, that is truly magical to see


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88cfWq_EhlE


this is the asif Delivery that I was talking about,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AxE_hspSig
 
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I have seen bowl outswinger on regular basis, I see him as most TALENTED young cricket here.


What more you want from a bowler then swinging the ball both way at 145+, plus he can reverse the ball as well with great speed[against SL at Hobart] that with pin point yorkers, he has got in dipper as well.

He has got the skills to become a very good bowler, still need to prove at lot to many people
 
That above video showed he outswung the ball and it came back through seam! LOL Double Whammy! How do you play that?

I always rated Starc above Patto.
 
on term of Skills, Strac is on different level compared to other young bowlers
 
HASHAM2 said:
Junaid played Most of His test,s in Asia on Died pitches taken three five wicket hauls on died pitches
Pattinson Has did well against Weak team like NL
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Yawn. Averages are objective. Pattinson has more wickets, in less games, at five runs per wicket better average. Your point stands if there is small difference between them.
 
PPers hype players too much based on their limited overs performance.
 
This only the start, I fully expect Strac to overtake Pattinson with his skills.

That was observed in UAE, where how they bowled. Pattinson is guy that hit the deck hard with pace, I don't really have enough skill to as good as Starc in SC. Even it is ODI, I seen that he has capability to bowl anywhere.

He was the standout bowlers in UAE[one of worst condition for fasting bowling flat dead road and very humid and hot], all other Australian bowler struggled to cope with it, and only Starc was the standout with an average of 14.
 
Starc remains an erratic and wayward bowler with question marks over his ability to build sustained pressure at Test level.

Starc is however an established and very good LOI bowler. But there are many good LOI bowlers who are not much chop in Test cricket.
 
Anfield said:
PPers hype players too much based on their limited overs performance.
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you need to be special talent and skill to bowl delivery like to Chanderpual. I have seen very fewer bowler bowl that type of delivery in this era.

maybe Anderson
 
Random Aussie said:
Starc remains an erratic and wayward bowler with question marks over his ability to build sustained pressure at Test level.

Starc is however an established and very good LOI bowler. But there are many good LOI bowlers who are not much chop in Test cricket.
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average of 29 is a good start dude in test, it not like he is bowling crap in test
 
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shah_1 said:
average of 29 is a good start dude in test, it not like he is bowling crap in test
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Dont know, I saw a whole lot of crap bowled by him in Perth against the Saffers. In fact so much crap he was taken out of the attack and got his wickets at the end of the game when it was over.
 
The only question is his control over the red ball, that I agree with RA
 
You don't get a big bowler by bowling special deliveries every now and then, you get big by bowling them consistently and to me Mitchell Starc is very inconsistent. Pattison is clearly a far better bowler at this stage of his career.
 
Starc is one of the best ODI bowlers going around, better than Junaid. In tests you could flip a coin, Junaid is just ahead as of now.
 
I think his control was clearly better in SL series, I saw that during the series, it is improving series by series.

This was his wining spell in hobart in fourth innings, his reverse swing quite outstanding , that was the reason Australia won it

MA Starc 28.2[overs] 7[maiden] 63[runs] 5[wickets] 2.22[economy rate]
 
shah_1 said:
I think his control was clearly better in SL series, I saw that during the series, it is improving series by series.

This was his wining spell in hobart in fourth innings, his reverse swing quite outstanding , that was the reason Australia won it

MA Starc 28.2[overs] 7[maiden] 63[runs] 5[wickets] 2.22[economy rate]
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I think we have Starc's biggest fan right here. I really like him too, haven't seen a bowler with so much potential since Steyn. Let's see how he turns out, still very young and inexperienced.
 
he had economy rate of 3.44[in two matches] in SL series compared to 4.66 against Australia. I tell you what he is getting better day by day, I see being a very good bowler in future
 
No Doubt Starc will kick Johnson out of the side very soon. Johnson has been like Gul for the last 2 years. Starc will make Wasim Akram proud.
 
Pattinson is by far a better test bowler than Starc.

Starc's more eratic than Johnson at the moment.
 
Random Aussie said:
Having watched every Test played by both Starc and Pattinson, I find it very hard to believe anyone who had done the same would come to that conclusion. But each to their own.
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But you would agree that Starc is in better form that Mitchel Johnson and is improving day by day. Johnson these days is gun barrel straight while Starc atleast gets late swing at 140 km/hr plus. Now that is a handful.
 
Savak said:
But you would agree that Starc is in better form that Mitchel Johnson and is improving day by day. Johnson these days is gun barrel straight while Starc atleast gets late swing at 140 km/hr plus. Now that is a handful.
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Johnson was much better in the tests.
 
Savak said:
But you would agree that Starc is in better form that Mitchel Johnson and is improving day by day. Johnson these days is gun barrel straight while Starc atleast gets late swing at 140 km/hr plus. Now that is a handful.
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Yes Starc is looking better by the day and his improvement has been marked since last summer. But he at this stage is a much more effective LOI bowler than Test bowler.
 
does Starc move it both ways??

i know he swings it in to righties at will, not sure if he can swing across also.

actually the swinging back in should be a surprise delivery and Not stock..........at test level, this'll get u more wickets :junaid
In LOI's, Starc's skillz are perfectly suited
 
random aussie got a point. It seems that patto is better then starc. But i was kinda thinking that he will probably move ahead of pattison.


Actually i was thinking about opening this thread after test series againt india but was too tempted to resist it

thanks
 
pacesensation said:
random aussie got a point. It seems that patto is better then starc. But i was kinda thinking that he will probably move ahead of pattison.


Actually i was thinking about opening this thread after test series againt india but was too tempted to resist it

thanks
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If Starc keeps improving at the same rate, for a while longer, he will move ahead of Pattinson. But you only know when a bowler has hit his ceiling when he hits it, really.
 
Cummins/Pattinson/Starc are the 3 pillars of Aussie bowling. These guys are really good and can win matches on their own on any given day.

That leaves out guys like Siddle/MCKay who might be their B-Grade bowlers. Not their 1st choice.

Imagine if India had a Siddle or McKay. They would have been hailed as the greatest ever by Indian media.

Aussie has the riches of Fast bowling options and India are stuck with endless list of worthless trundlers. :facepalm:

Its just not fair. What does India have to do to produce a fast bowler of the caliber of Starc or Cummins or Pattinson? Or at least a Siddle or McKay?
 
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Common dude, Siddle is better than that.

get prepared for RA bashing, because he is his biggest fan
 
mithun_minhas said:
Cummins/Pattinson/Starc are the 3 pillars of Aussie bowling. These guys are really good and can win matches on their own on any given day.

That leaves out guys like Siddle/MCKay who might be their B-Grade bowlers. Not their 1st choice.

Imagine if India had a Siddle or McKay. They would have been hailed as the greatest ever by Indian media.

Aussie has the riches of Fast bowling options and India are stuck with endless list of worthless trundlers. :facepalm:

Its just not fair. What does India have to do to produce a fast bowler of the caliber of Starc or Cummins or Pattinson? Or at least a Siddle or McKay?
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Cummins/Pattinson/Starc all have more talent than Siddle.

At the moment they are all significantly inferior as bowlers at test level.

In 3-4 years teams, there will need to be serious questions about development asked if they haven't started moving pass Sidds.
 
Random Aussie said:
Having watched every Test played by both Starc and Pattinson, I find it very hard to believe anyone who had done the same would come to that conclusion. But each to their own.
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Agreed. But Patto appears to be made of pate. At least Starc is semi-reliable in the fitness stakes.

Rhino was arguably better than both of them but he's finished it seems.
 
James said:
Agreed. But Patto appears to be made of pate. At least Starc is semi-reliable in the fitness stakes.

Rhino was arguably better than both of them but he's finished it seems.
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Harris was not better than Pattinson in Test cricket nor was he better than Starc in LO Cricket.
 
He was consistently around 145 mark today , went as high as 148.2kph. Great pace bowling.
 
His action sort of reminds me of Wahab Riaz. But, Mitchel is smart and uses his full potential.
 
A Johnson 2.0 with less bugs.

Sensational on his day, tripe on others.

But is still only 23 and has potential to be world class.
 
Siddle just has sort of decent talent. It's his mental strength and enormous heart that raise him to Test class.

Goes to show that there is a lot more to this game than 'talent'.
 
James said:
Siddle just has sort of decent talent. It's his mental strength and enormous heart that raise him to Test class.

Goes to show that there is a lot more to this game than 'talent'.
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Yeah, Siddle doesnt have the sort of weaponry the other three have, they all have real pace, bounce (as they are all massive), and the ability to swing the ball.
 
If he does well in India (test cricket, not jamodis) then he will have justified his talent. The West indies lineup is just full of big hitters, no one can grind it out. They usually hit their way to 40/ 50 and then get out, test cricket is the real test for him like every other player.
 
Mitchell Starc-seems like he is the next big thing

Random Aussie said:
Yeah, Siddle doesnt have the sort of weaponry the other three have, they all have real pace, bounce (as they are all massive), and the ability to swing the ball.
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He does have pace though. Won't forget him crawling back to his mark in the Adelaide test, running in, and bowling it at 150. He may not get much bounce, but he's got pace, and to some extent, swing. Very underrated bloke.
 
Peter siddle is way underrated, with bowling average of 28 he has been more consistent in his career than Anderson/ Morkel/ Zaheer etc. Huge heart as well :afridi
 
Yes series in India would give us fair idea, how good is he?
 
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