What's new

Moeen Ali - Performance Watch

13.6
Ali to Gayle, SIX, make that three in a row! That could be the game. This was a big full toss and he dragged it a touch wider over long on
13.5
Ali to Gayle, SIX, that's bigger...lovely, swift use of the feet and he has so much natural power that he barely has to touch the ball
13.4
Ali to Gayle, SIX, clears long on again, he has the bowlers on a string today...down the pitch and basically a chip straight down the ground
Click to expand...

Defenders of Moeen Ali, your time has come...
 
Thivagar said:
It is an Indian paindu pitch. Nothing for any bowler.
Click to expand...

If a spinner can't get purchase in India, he should just retire.

By the way, do you know the meaning of the word 'paindu' or are you just throwing it around?
 
Varun said:
If a spinner can't get purchase in India, he should just retire.

By the way, do you know the meaning of the word 'paindu' or are you just throwing it around?
Click to expand...

Not this pitch.

This is hard place to bowl.

At times some Indian LOI pitches are harder for spinners than places like England, WI, UAE, SL and Bangladesh
 
I think dew also played its part and with his eye in Gayle couldve smashed better spinners on these sort of wickets.
 
Commiserations to all English and Pakistani fans.

I'm sorry [MENTION=129948]Bilal7[/MENTION].
 
Moeen did get smashed but Gayle in that mood would have smashed Ajmal at his javelin throwing best. He needs to recover for the rest of the games

Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
 
Adil_94 said:
Moeen did get smashed but Gayle in that mood would have smashed Ajmal at his javelin throwing best. He needs to recover for the rest of the games

Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
Click to expand...

Yeah he got smashed only in 1 over and the way he had tied down WI somewhat in his preceding two overs had given ENG the edge . Morgan was smart enough not to give Adil his full quota. Have a feeling he wouldve gone for even more.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Yeah he got smashed only in 1 over and the way he had tied down WI somewhat in his preceding two overs had given ENG the edge . Morgan was smart enough not to give Adil his full quota. Have a feeling he wouldve gone for even more.
Click to expand...
Yeah with the dew it's even harder for leggies as well.

Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
 
Mamoon said:
Commiserations to all English and Pakistani fans.

I'm sorry [MENTION=129948]Bilal7[/MENTION].
Click to expand...

Nothing to be sorry for. Moeen bowled better in his opening game than Ashwin did and apart from the last three balls of his quota, he was very economical.

Very selflessly tried to go for that second run at the death and got run out. Will play at least 50 tests and many more LOIs for England, InshAllah.
 
Finally getting exposed for the part-timer that he is.

Long way to go, but an unhealthy start for Moeen in this World T20.
 
Not good at all. I don't see him staying in the side for long if he carries on batting so low down and not having any impact and bowling horribly too.

Edit..Looky he gets De Kock out :))
 
considering the circumstances Mo has bowled very nicely and got two important wickets and shouldve had Amla earlier. a good performance with the ball

Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
 
Silly decision to throw him to the wolves today. He's not someone who should bowl in the PP. However, came back nicely after that and he's had a good start to this World Cup.

England are ruining his batting ability by making him bat at #7 though.
 
in the context of the game his bowling performance looks even better now. Him and Rashid middle overs restricted them from getting 240 or 250.

Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
 
Great to see Ali keeping a calm head and winning it for England in the end. Must have soured this sweet victory for a couple of our friends. :moali
 
Hardly choking when SA bowled well at the end.

Good thing Rashid was there at the end to "Heimlich Maneuver" the choke out of him then :))

McCullum.jpg​
 
great performance with the bat today by Mo. Rescuing England from a perilous position. he's given them a fighting score.

Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
 
Very good effort with the bat today, rescued England from a precarious position.
 
Destroyed today. Always good to see him get exposed for the part-time spinner that he is.
 
England have a very explosive lineup, so they can carry pretenders like Moeen and Rashid as spinners, but it will hurt them in Test cricket and we saw that vs Pakistan in the UAE where they matched our batsmen and pacers, but lost because of not having a wicket-taking spinner.
 
Luckily only fools with little knowledge of cricket would expect a spinner to be taking wickets in April in English conditions.
 
s28 said:
Luckily only fools with little knowledge of cricket would expect a spinner to be taking wickets in April in English conditions.
Click to expand...

More notably only a fool would excuse our current test spinner from going at over 6 runs an over in division 2 of the county championship because conditions don't suit him. Yes I don't expect him to be ripping through sides at this stage of the season but similarly I don't expect him to be getting smashed around the park.
 
With Taylor's retirement, Moeen Ali should be pushed up the order and England should add another bowler to their team. They don't need so much depth to their batting lineup but do need another specialist bowler. Of course, this only depends on his performances.

1) Cook (c)
2) Compton
3) Ballance
4) Root
5) Moeen/Stokes
6) Stokes/Moeen
7) Bairstow (wk)
8) Broad
9) Finn
10) Anderson
11) Tredwell/Rashid/Woakes

Seems pretty strong.
 
Bilal7 said:
With Taylor's retirement, Moeen Ali should be pushed up the order and England should add another bowler to their team. They don't need so much depth to their batting lineup but do need another specialist bowler. Of course, this only depends on his performances.

1) Cook (c)
2) Compton
3) Ballance
4) Root
5) Moeen/Stokes
6) Stokes/Moeen
7) Bairstow (wk)
8) Broad
9) Finn
10) Anderson
11) Tredwell/Rashid/Woakes

Seems pretty strong.
Click to expand...

In England in particular I don't think we need another bowler personally, 3 seamers and Stokes should be more enough to keep us going with Ali providing some assistance. If Ali bats well this summer though then maybe it should be something we'd consider for the winter tours of Bangladesh and India in order to get in multiple spinners, but then again a lot of things could change by then. For the start of the SL series I expect Hales to retain his place, and I think James Vince stands a very good chance at the number 5 spot (or wherever is free after an order rejig). Compton may be a bit vulnerable due to his poor start to the season.
 
Last edited:
I'm sorry if this upsets anyone but after 2 years in international cricket I think moen ali is average. Bowling is ok nd batting he is vulnerable to short pitch bowling. I was shocked when he was selected but when he was selected as a main spinner I found it hilarious. I would take Rashid over Moen
 
Looooool England have to give up on this experiment soon, he struggled in favourable conditions in the UAE what will he do in India with the ball
 
Mamoon said:
He is inconsistent with the bat as well. Overall, a mediocre player.
Click to expand...

I agree he's a decent LOI player though but not test match quality for serious teams. Anyone who isn't biased can see he's not test match quality
 
Hasan123 said:
Shouldn't bat at 7 or 8 in LOI. In top 5 and bowling between 6-8 overs he will do well
Click to expand...

Hales, Roy, Root, Stokes, Buttler and Morgan are all better players so it is difficult to accommodate him in the top-order.
 
Mamoon said:
Hales, Roy, Root, Stokes, Buttler and Morgan are all better players so it is difficult to accommodate him in the top-order.
Click to expand...

I would move stokes to 7 and put moen at 5 because he is better at rotating strike and playing against spinners. Stokes has a better power game and can go from ball 1 batting at 7
 
Should have got man of match for 155, what does he have to do in England to get it, Anderson should have got mom last match?

Really poor....was it the beard that cost him?
 
Cricketrenew said:
Should have got man of match for 155, what does he have to do in England to get it, Anderson should have got mom last match?

Really poor....was it the beard that cost him?
Click to expand...

The beard has only benefited him in his career so far.

Anderson won the award because Sri Lanka getting dismissed for 101 is why England won the match, so it's natural that a bowler got the award and Anderson was the best bowler on display.
 
Cricketrenew said:
Should have got man of match for 155, what does he have to do in England to get it, Anderson should have got mom last match?

Really poor....was it the beard that cost him?
Click to expand...

He was a decent shout, but it was a flat pitch and they kept dropping him. A five-fer is worth a hundred, and Anderson took 8, five of them when everyone else was not getting wickets.

That and Ali bowled terribly.
 
It was a lucky hundred.

Full of edges and missed chances. The innings flattered him.
 
Remember when Moeen first got selected England was at a low cook was about to be sacked

He has helped turn it around. He needs to stop listening to all these do Gooders and start putting side spin on the and bowl the arm ball more.

He has done well to last this long, the team seems to have cliques
 
He has lasted this long because he bats better than other spinners, even though he is a liability when it comes to bowling.
 
It's not the first time he has missed out so 10 wickets last match was not good enough

I think he has more chance of getting mom abroad then at home so sad
 
He had a chance to get MoM on UAE wickets but he was brutally exposed as a spinner, our batsmen treated him like a part-timer.
 
Does not have the consistency of a full-time bowler, specially not of an off-spinner, but I guess the alternatives are hardly better.
 
Bairstow was the same last match? So don't understand your points at all. His beard has cost him but good for him to keep his head up
 
Cricketrenew said:
It's not the first time he has missed out so 10 wickets last match was not good enough

I think he has more chance of getting mom abroad then at home so sad
Click to expand...

10 wickets last match didn't matter because everyone bowled well. Only two people passed 50, and Bairstow passed it magnificiently.

This match, there were 7 50+, one of which was a big Chandimal hundred. His innings in comparison was just a bit better.

But no one else took 8 wickets for under 12 apiece or even came close to it.

I know people like to scream racism, but Moeen did not lose because of his beard. Anderson was a head and shoulders above his peers, Moeen was about what'd you'd expect given the conditions and drops.

Edit- And as for cliques, he'd be a part of them. Maybe that's why he's survived for so long despite averaging 40. He's well liked, there is no silly racism on that team against beards and muslim players. If there was, terrible bowlers like Rashid would never be picked, because why would you ever want both a poor bowler and someone you didn't like?
 
Last edited:
Here we go again...the same crap by the same user.

Not many posts when he actually bats well but as soon as he bowls poorly, the knives are out and the comments about his beard are regurgitated by people that should know better and have supposedly "high-IQ-levels" of intelligence.
 
Sherlock said:
Here we go again...the same crap by the same user.

Not many posts when he actually bats well but as soon as he bowls poorly, the knives are out and the comments about his beard are regurgitated by people that should know better and have supposedly "high-IQ-levels" of intelligence.
Click to expand...


Wait what?

I am in no way decrying Moeen, he batted well. But him losing MotM to Anderson was not an attack on his beard. That's what I've been saying.
 
Both butler and bairstow are poor wicket keepers when facing spin so At the moment cause they wiping it's ok but by next year can't see them lasting
 
Abdullah719 said:
Does not have the consistency of a full-time bowler, specially not of an off-spinner, but I guess the alternatives are hardly better.
Click to expand...

Borthwick scored 188* and took a fifer and I am pretty sure a county's bowling would be better than Sri Lankan attack
 
Firebreaker said:
Borthwick scored 188* and took a fifer and I am pretty sure a county's bowling would be better than Sri Lankan attack
Click to expand...

Borthwicks not enough to get us through as our front line spinner, I would like to see him at 3 instead of Compton though however he's unfortunately not been added to the squad for the last test.
 
He did get smashed after bairstow missed an easy stumping and a hard catch, bairstow did miss chances off spinner last match, nine catches was due to the bowlers skill.
 
Bilal7 said:
With Taylor's retirement, Moeen Ali should be pushed up the order and England should add another bowler to their team. They don't need so much depth to their batting lineup but do need another specialist bowler. Of course, this only depends on his performances.

1) Cook (c)
2) Compton
3) Ballance
4) Root
5) Moeen/Stokes
6) Stokes/Moeen
7) Bairstow (wk)
8) Broad
9) Finn
10) Anderson
11) Tredwell/Rashid/Woakes

Seems pretty strong.
Click to expand...

Terrible idea. Moeen on equal footing to Stokes? LOL :)))

Stokes is ten times the batsman Moeen is, and Moeen is sure as hell not competing for a spot with him.

Moeen is a number 8 batsman, and in no way is someone more competent like Bairstow supposed to be batting below him. Bairstow at 6, Moeen at 7 or 8.

Give your bias a rest for once, thanks.
 
Suleiman said:
Terrible idea. Moeen on equal footing to Stokes? LOL :)))

Stokes is ten times the batsman Moeen is, and Moeen is sure as hell not competing for a spot with him.

Moeen is a number 8 batsman, and in no way is someone more competent like Bairstow supposed to be batting below him. Bairstow at 6, Moeen at 7 or 8.

Give your bias a rest for once, thanks.
Click to expand...

People have convinced me Moeen should be dropped lets see were the team is in one year, Stokes is more hit and miss then Moeen he has played one proper innings
 
Cricketrenew said:
He did get smashed after bairstow missed an easy stumping and a hard catch, bairstow did miss chances off spinner last match, nine catches was due to the bowlers skill.
Click to expand...

Bairstow didn't drop a catch of Ali this match? Just like he missed a potential stumping off Ali he also missed a catch off Anderson however.
 
Last 2 test matches Eng vs SL

Rangana herath:
First match : 2/25,
Second match : 1/116, 0/18

Moeen Ali:
First match : 1/2
Second match : 0/0, 1/136

These are the performance of mooen and herath. Nothing much to choose from.

Mooen is not as bad a bowler as some of the guys here are trying to prove, taking the conditions in England into account he is a decent spinner ( although not very good).

-------------------------------------------------------------
Hope is being able to see that there is
light despite all of the darkness
 
Super innings in this match and bowled decently on a flat pitch. Would like to see him bat higher still but #7 is better than #8.

One thing is for sure, Moeen Ali is going to have a very good test career. Pie on the face for the haters who were predicting him being dropped just a few months ago.

Hopefully, India once again take him lightly as a bowler and he ends up taking 25 wickets in their upcoming face-off. :moali
 
Cricketrenew said:
Who said they discriminated, they just didn't do it fairly. Don't get me wrong James Anderson is a great bowler in swinging conditions but the Sky Panel seem to be holding two different yardsticks in two back to back matches. If Compton had scored 155 he would have got MOM.

As for Allergic the people that are allergic will always be allergic so it is no use worrying about them.
If you can't see the unfairness. Then obviously you haven't seen the careers of Bopara, Shah, Rashid in comparison to Hick and Bell etc.

As for the facepalm, keep closing your eyes then you won't see what is in front of you.
Click to expand...

and Jimmy Anderson admitted himself he was surprised Moeen didn't win MOTM
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

BouncerGuy
Mohammad Ali - White ball Performance Watch
Replies
55
Views
1K
Abid Z
A
The Bald Eagle
Pakistan players performance watch - County Championship 2025/26
Replies
13
Views
806
BouncerGuy
BouncerGuy
BouncerGuy
Matthew Forde - A West Indian allrounder
Replies
0
Views
160
BouncerGuy
BouncerGuy
FearlessRoar
[PICTURES/VIDEOS] Jomel Warrican: West Indies’ left-arm spin ace
Replies
15
Views
514
FearlessRoar
FearlessRoar
FearlessRoar
[VIDEOS] Jaker Ali: Bangladesh’s Power-Hitting Batter
Replies
5
Views
324
FearlessRoar
FearlessRoar
Back
Top