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"Moeen Ali reminds me of Saeed Anwar" : Nasser Hussain

Poison said:
Not sure how much Saeed Anwar you've seen. He was an incredible player whose incredible hands, timing and ridiculous hand-eye co-ordination pushed him towards greatness. His technique, talking in terms of how the textbooks want you to bat, was not watertight.
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It was better than this hack's though who's struggling to average 30 in today's flat track era.
 
Saeed was loose outside the off-stump and had this annoying habit of walking across the stumps and get bowled off his legs.

He along with Mark Waugh, was the king of soft dismissals, but he is the most majestic timer I've seen and was unflappable once he got his eye in, so it's not wrong to suggest that he didn't have a watertight technique. However, he was certainly more organized than Moeen.
 
I'm not arguing that he had a model technique, he indeed had several technical flaws but he was certainly more composed than Ali.
 
A hack is not someone who isn't scoring runs. A hack is someone devoid of technique, class and timing. Awais Zia was a hack, Finch is a hack and so is Mukhtar. Ali is not one and there is a reason experts are comparing his batting style to the likes of Anwar, Lara and Sobers.

Sidilicious said:
Disagree. He is not quality enough to get into the XI with either bat or ball.

If Rashid gets into some form, he would easily replace Moeen in the XI. A 2nd spinner wont be required and there are other better bats who would be given a chance. So its pretty much a fight for the spinner's spot between Moeen and Rashid.
IMHO, Rashid has much brighter prospects.

Indians have trolled England big time after the spun us out last year.

ODIs though, its a different matter.
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If Moeen gets into form, he would easily hold off any potential challengers. He is more of a batsman than a bowler so he can potentially replace Ian Bell in the lineup moving forward. That would allow Rashid to be part of the team too, if England do feel the need to play two spinners at the Oval or at Lord's.

First thing is first, the management needs to stop opening with him.

Mamoon said:
Who talked about dropping him? England find themselves in an unfortunate situation because they haven't found Swann heir, so have to put up with the likes of Moeen, Rashid, Patel etc. who aren't Test class.

The point is that Moeen has been exposed on this tour and you have to be pretty bad to get outperformed by Rashid in both batting and bowling, who wasn't part of the Test squad up until the summer.
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Being an England fan, you better hope he becomes "test class" soon. How was he exposed? He was made to open the batting for the first time in his FC/test career and it didn't come off. He's clearly suited for the middle-order and played some crucial hands against Australia, helping England win the Ashes. There is a reason he is so popular in England and all the experts agree that he's a good player that hasn't been played in his favored position.

Rashid is another quality player and being out-bowled by him is not at all shameful. I suggest you don't fall into this hole yet again. :yshah1
 
Bilal7 said:
A hack is not someone who isn't scoring runs. A hack is someone devoid of technique, class and timing. Awais Zia was a hack, Finch is a hack and so is Mukhtar. Ali is not one and there is a reason experts are comparing his batting style to the likes of Anwar, Lara and Sobers.



If Moeen gets into form, he would easily hold off any potential challengers. He is more of a batsman than a bowler so he can potentially replace Ian Bell in the lineup moving forward. That would allow Rashid to be part of the team too, if England do feel the need to play two spinners at the Oval or at Lord's.

First thing is first, the management needs to stop opening with him.



Being an England fan, you better hope he becomes "test class" soon. How was he exposed? He was made to open the batting for the first time in his FC/test career and it didn't come off. He's clearly suited for the middle-order and played some crucial hands against Australia, helping England win the Ashes. There is a reason he is so popular in England and all the experts agree that he's a good player that hasn't been played in his favored position.

Rashid is another quality player and being out-bowled by him is not at all shameful. I suggest you don't fall into this hole yet again. :yshah1
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Oh I forgot, Rashid has a beard too, so he must be a wonderful player. Never mind that, but yes I will take him over Moeen when it comes to bowling, but he has to improve a lot to be a success Test bowler.

I think as a fanboy of Moeen, you should be worried more; because 'as a fan of England', I think he has become a headache on this tour and showed why he cannot be relied upon in Test cricket.

He has been exposed because he has failed big time with the bat. Regardless of the position, he has been the worst batsman on show, even worse than some tail-enders, and has been taken to the cleaners with the ball as well.

Of course you'll defend him to the hilt, but matter of fact is that he has been a total flop on this tour and has failed to live up to the expectations. His standing in English cricket is only going to nosedive with performances like these.
 
Poison said:
He's more technically correct than Saeed .. I've not seen anyone with the hand speed of Saeed Anwar since the great man retired. Moeen's too flashy with the bat to be a Test cricketer imo, and his bowling doesn't really meet the standard required for a top-line spinner. That being said he's been shunted everywhere in this current England set-up, and making judgements on his batting from innings played at #8 or #1 is unwise. Wish him all the best in SA because he seems like a top bloke .. I hope he gets a real shot at #6, where he's probably going to be at his best.
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Moeen has major problems against the short ball . Having been brought up in England if he can play the swing better its hardly an achievement , so I would not say he is technically better though I rate him high as a LOI bat and a decent package for Tests as a batsmen alone hes not test class .
 
Nasser Hussain picks four players he would spend money to watch
Former England captain Nasser Hussain has chosen the four batsmen he would spend money to witness them play. Renowned analyst as well as commentator, Hussain, picked Pakistan’s legendary opening batsman Saeed Anwar at first.

“In terms of being easy on the eye, Saeed Anwar had an elegance and grace through the off-side,” said Nasser during his Q&A session with Daily Mail.


Anwar, with almost 13,000 international career runs, was one of the standout performers for his country. He remained at the top in both forms of the game in his 14-year-long illustrative career.

Then, Hussain went on to stage his admiration for the in his 14-year-long illustrative career., Lara. Further, the Englishman named current Indian captain Virat Kohli in pursuit of run chases as part of the four cricketers he’d pay to watch.



“I’ve been watching some old footage of Brian Lara with that big back-lift and, wow, could he bat. Virat Kohli in a 50-over run chase. He just seems to chase down any score every time,” Hussain said.

David Gower, whose cover drive was most elegant ones, was also included in the wishlist of Hussain. “But I have to go for my childhood hero David Gower. I remember an early game against Leicestershire and I was at cover point as he leant on one and before I could move it hit the boundary boards behind me. Everything I had admired was there in front of my eyes,” he added.

Gower notched up more than 11,300 runs for the Three Lions in his cricketing career – from 1978 to 1992. Having scored 25 centuries and 51 half-centuries, the Kent-born was a stalwart in the Brits’ lineup.
 
AAli98 said:
Nasser Hussain picks four players he would spend money to watch
Former England captain Nasser Hussain has chosen the four batsmen he would spend money to witness them play. Renowned analyst as well as commentator, Hussain, picked Pakistan’s legendary opening batsman Saeed Anwar at first.

“In terms of being easy on the eye, Saeed Anwar had an elegance and grace through the off-side,” said Nasser during his Q&A session with Daily Mail.


Anwar, with almost 13,000 international career runs, was one of the standout performers for his country. He remained at the top in both forms of the game in his 14-year-long illustrative career.

Then, Hussain went on to stage his admiration for the in his 14-year-long illustrative career., Lara. Further, the Englishman named current Indian captain Virat Kohli in pursuit of run chases as part of the four cricketers he’d pay to watch.



“I’ve been watching some old footage of Brian Lara with that big back-lift and, wow, could he bat. Virat Kohli in a 50-over run chase. He just seems to chase down any score every time,” Hussain said.

David Gower, whose cover drive was most elegant ones, was also included in the wishlist of Hussain. “But I have to go for my childhood hero David Gower. I remember an early game against Leicestershire and I was at cover point as he leant on one and before I could move it hit the boundary boards behind me. Everything I had admired was there in front of my eyes,” he added.

Gower notched up more than 11,300 runs for the Three Lions in his cricketing career – from 1978 to 1992. Having scored 25 centuries and 51 half-centuries, the Kent-born was a stalwart in the Brits’ lineup.
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Anwar, Lara, Kohli and Gower.

Solid quartet!

To OP: Moeen Ali is an inconsistent but impact player, when he performs he has a solid say in team's win. He is equally capable of winning the man of the match and getting out in single digits/bowling rubbish.

One thing is certain tho, he makes batting look so easy!
 
Let's hope we don't see a Saeed Anwar-esque innings from Moeen today, Banton has already given the bowlers enough smashing
 
Firebat said:
Let's hope we don't see a Saeed Anwar-esque innings from Moeen today, Banton has already given the bowlers enough smashing
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Started off well to be honest but Rizwan was brilliant with that catch.
 
moeen had his moments but so far as a batsman he is not good enough to tie saeed show laces.
 
Blasphemous statement.

Saeed Anwar at his peak was standing to toe to toe with Tendulkar and slightly ahead of Lara
 
He is mentally finished at this level. England need to move on from him for good.

He has become a complete liability. A genuine match-loser.

England’s turn of fortunes in the World Cup after dropping him sums up his standing in the game today.
 
Moeen is talented with the bat and okay with the ball but he has underachieved.
He is on the same level as imad Wasim in Lois nothing more.
 
I believe he has actually overachieved.
His figures with bat reflect his talent level (strokemaker with big technical gaps). With ball he has had atleast 3 Test series where he has been standout lead and attacking spinner from both sides.

This is huge overachievement for his modest skills. 60 Tests and 100+ ODIs is much more than his skill levels deserve.

He might have continued to play for 2-3 more years in a team like SL/Bangla with his weak faux allround performances but in an England side with class allrounders like Stokes, Buttler and Woakes he is out of his depth in all formats
 
Hes just too loose with the bat Ive no idea how he will make it back in the england odi n test teams when his dismissals are so consistent n soft
 
If Moeen can get his confidence back he will be an asset on the subcontinent. He got two test centuries on the last tour of India. He is very effective with the ball in the fourth innings of tests, generally speaking.
 
Robert said:
If Moeen can get his confidence back he will be an asset on the subcontinent. He got two test centuries on the last tour of India. He is very effective with the ball in the fourth innings of tests, generally speaking.
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How effective was Moeen as a bowler in India. He's no Monty.
 
freelance_cricketer said:
How effective was Moeen as a bowler in India. He's no Monty.
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Our Beard averages 65 in India. But I don’t think any current English spinner except possibly Leach will do better so we may as well pick one who can bat.

England have only produced two effective spinners this century which is a bit depressing.
 
Robert said:
Our Beard averages 65 in India. But I don’t think any current English spinner except possibly Leach will do better so we may as well pick one who can bat.

England have only produced two effective spinners this century which is a bit depressing.
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It was Monty who turned the tables in 2013

That sardar always got us.
 
freelance_cricketer said:
It was Monty who turned the tables in 2013

That sardar always got us.
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Not always, Panesar averaged 41 against India. He averaged 28 in England but did not travel well on the whole.

Moeen has more test wickets than Panesat at a similar mid-thirties average. Of course Panesar was kept out of the side by Swann who had more attributes.
 
Terrible for Moeen Ali.

Does he have an issue vs Pakistan?
 
You have to feel sorry for him now. It is time for ECB to take him out of his misery.

He is begging for his international career to be terminated.
 
Mamoon said:
You have to feel sorry for him now. It is time for ECB to take him out of his misery.

He is begging for his international career to be terminated.
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It's baffling to understand why he's struggling to hit routine long hops. Today, he couldn't even get it past the 30 yard circle.

He's clearly not good enough.
 
Hes batting like a no 11 these days

Not gonna be long now before hes out of the team in all formats
 
His decline has been astonishing. Just a few years ago he was an unstoppable batsman when on top form, in all formats of the game. That Moeen Ali would walk into any current English side.

Now he struggles to get to double figures. When Shadab dragged that down I thought for certain it was a 6. Next thing I know he's gently lobbed it to Babar at midwicket. I was honestly stunned.

Sad to see what is happening to Moeen, he's only 33. What's gone wrong?
 
one of the greatest opening batsmen of all time is being compared with a very average player in moeen lol.

anwar is as every bit as good as shewag Hayden etc.
 
Moeen playing some beautiful shots. Will that missed stumping cost us...
 
Moeen reaches 50 at a SR of 200. He's looking dangerous now
 
Imagine making Moeen look like prime Lara. A bowling attack cannot sink lower than that.
 
Didn’t deliver when it mattered.

Nothing wrong with that.

Many legends of the game couldn’t, yet became legends.

Still, he is not good enough for doing these soft runs consistently enough so I guess he is going to miss out making the England team.
 
Mamoon said:
Imagine making Moeen look like prime Lara. A bowling attack cannot sink lower than that.
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Mo played well in a game where the likes of Bairstow and Morgan struggled, on the other hand Rashid who was battered by Hafeez of all players :yk
 
Moeen Ali hasn't been consistent, but we are so strong as an T20 England side that we can afford to carry him given the balance he brings and the possibility of when he does get going how he can win games by himself; never got over the line here but it was England B at the end of the day; imagine how damaging such a knock could be in the World Cup with the likes of Roy and Butler in the team with a much longer tail. as well
 
In my opinion England are now the favourites for the World T20, just need to somehow bring Joe Root into the team; with the likes of Mo and Rashid providing a spin option I see no reason why we can't swap Root for Denly; Root can roll his arm as well when needed
 
Moen Ali should actually be opening the batting, his game is suited to it. England have so many options that he is put down the order.
 
shaz619 said:
Moeen Ali hasn't been consistent, but we are so strong as an T20 England side that we can afford to carry him given the balance he brings and the possibility of when he does get going how he can win games by himself; never got over the line here but it was England B at the end of the day; imagine how damaging such a knock could be in the World Cup with the likes of Roy and Butler in the team with a much longer tail. as well
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yea those hacks can hack their way on flat chappatai patta pitches. Any movement or bounce and all those hacks go down with relative ease.
 
shaz619 said:
In my opinion England are now the favourites for the World T20, just need to somehow bring Joe Root into the team; with the likes of Mo and Rashid providing a spin option I see no reason why we can't swap Root for Denly; Root can roll his arm as well when needed
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I wouldnt play root I think malan deserves it
 
Just knew - he was never gonna finish the chase in the 3rd T20.

Good shots though against the spinners.
 
Disappointing for Moeen vs Australia in 1st T20I:

Moeen Ali c Zampa b Maxwell 2(6)
 
Firstly, people need to take off-the-cuff comments form pundits with a grain of salt.

Secondly, You need to remember several years ago, Moeen came onto the England team as a much needed breath of fresh air.

England imploded after the whole Strauss-Pieterson crisis. The whole environment is toxic and the entire team was split.

Is Moeen a world-beater? No. However, the guy helped steady the ship for England in the early years and played some important knocks and took important wickets in the Ashes in England.

Moeen is still a solid performer when captaining Worcester and in the IPL. This is why he is constantly picked for England, despite his visible decline at International level.

His International game has suffered since he has been expected to perform everywhere from opening to batting at the tail end. Again, he is expected to be the lead spinner and expected to perform as a support bowler in ALL FORMATS.

This is the same team where other players have a mental breakdown when asked to bat one-up or one-down for one game.

The likes of Bess and Leach have been ordinary in the games they've played for England, yet their shortcomings are overlooked by fans.

Moeen is however under a microscope. I can't imagine the state of his mental health dealing with ECB management. It's quite clear he is close with Morgan, and I hope he can find his form again.
 
MOEEN is proud to be skippering England and hopes his experiences leading Worcestershire, as well as learning from Morgan, will stand him in good stead...

"It's an absolute honour to captain your country and lead such a side. I enjoy the captaincy at Worcestershire - it keeps you in the game and there is the responsibility. This is obviously a different kettle of fish against the No 1 side in the world. I don't think I will be as good as Eoin but he produces other leaders so hopefully I can use his experience."

How will Moeen fare as captain, NASSER?

“He has done it for Worcestershire on big Finals Days. He is a very smart, astute captain – people might not put the two and two together with Moeen as, let’s be honest, by his own admission he has had some brain fades. But as a captain he has been smart and led by example.”
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Moeen Ali becomes the first Asian cricketer to captain England in T20Is. He's also the first Asian cricketer to captain England in any format since Nasser Hussain in 2003 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://t.co/P0iDBbIO3G">pic.twitter.com/P0iDBbIO3G</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1303378087015600128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 8, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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