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Interesting comments from Nasser Hussain on tv, comparing the free-flowing and attacking Moeen Ali with the Pakistani great Saeed Anwar.

The quote "Moeen Ali reminds me of Saeed Anwar who used to pick his bat up & smash the bowing in a very elegant way"
 
Saj said:
Interesting comments from Nasser Hussain on tv, comparing the free-flowing and attacking Moeen Ali with the Pakistani great Saeed Anwar.

The quote "Moeen Ali reminds me of Saeed Anwar who used to pick his bat up & smash the bowing in a very elegant way"
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If you are going for an anwar with a tenth of the ability or technical skill then sure.
 
Saj said:
Interesting comments from Nasser Hussain on tv, comparing the free-flowing and attacking Moeen Ali with the Pakistani great Saeed Anwar.

The quote "Moeen Ali reminds me of Saeed Anwar who used to pick his bat up & smash the bowing in a very elegant way"
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NZcricketfan said:
If you are going for an anwar with a tenth of the ability or technical skill then sure.
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Hahaha agree - no comparison mate
 
On his day Anwar was more classy & elegant then any other batsmen, I have ever seen.
 
Nasser also compared Moin's backlift to Lara. I love the comparisons with the game's best players coming after a century against the mighty Scotland! What will happen if one of the England players scores against a good team. Will Bradman be dethroned?
 
Moeen has all the ability to reach the very top level so no surprise the England experts compare him to legends
 
First ball nearly taps it straight to mid off

I guess england need something to cheer about
 
Reminds me of anwar too. Free flowing like anwar but he is not in same class as yet.
 
I was thinking the exact same thing a few days ago. Some of his shots are quite similar to Anwar's.
 
Moeen Ali had made adjustment to his high bat lift.. Not so high now. Good adjustment.
 
And Saeed Anwar was Moeen childhood hero (mentioned in his interview) so maybe he is trying to copy those wristy shots from childhood thats why he is playing them very good
 
Feels sad for pakistanis. Lack of talent in their country forces them to over praise beard cricketers from other countries. Unnecessary hype for moeen bhai
 
And Moin Anwar Lara Ali is now dismissed, very softly.
 
manick badsha said:
Feels sad for pakistanis. Lack of talent in their country forces them to over praise beard cricketers from other countries. Unnecessary hype for moeen bhai
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Plenty of talent in Pakistan but the Pak team not getting to play there isn't helping. It's the Muslim players we like :) and not just those with facial hair. I love it that Shami is the best seam bowler in India even though he doesn't get paid as much as that dibbly dobbly Kumar or should I call him a spinner :).
 
Wouldn't say he keep throwing it away. He's been put in that position to attack the opposition so he's allowed to take risks. Issue today was he got frustrated after a few tight deliveries bowled at him and a few play and misses. He was mentally weak to give away his wicket, he needed to ride through that difficult patch and come out the other side. Still developing for me.
 
he has style but no substance anwar was in a class of his own he was my fav batsman to watch of all time .
 
Moen Ali needs to convert those starts to at least 40's or 50's before we can compare the two.

Right now, Moen Ali is a poor man's Anwar.
 
savecricket said:
Plenty of talent in Pakistan but the Pak team not getting to play there isn't helping. It's the Muslim players we like :) and not just those with facial hair. I love it that Shami is the best seam bowler in India even though he doesn't get paid as much as that dibbly dobbly Kumar or should I call him a spinner :).
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IPL pays are the biggest.

In IPL Bhuvi has been a superior performer than Shami till now. Last IPL, Bhuvi outperformed Steyn with ease (but to be fair, Steyn wasn't his usual self - prev IPLs he was awesome).

If Shami performs better in IPL, he will get paid more.

Simple.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
IPL pays are the biggest.

In IPL Bhuvi has been a superior performer than Shami till now. Last IPL, Bhuvi outperformed Steyn with ease (but to be fair, Steyn wasn't his usual self - prev IPLs he was awesome).

If Shami performs better in IPL, he will get paid more.

Simple.
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It's called international cricket and have you heard of the World Cup. Shami is on a discriminatory lower contract from the BCCI than the medium pace of Kumar. Nothing to do with IPL
 
lol wut.

Anwar was one of the best openers in 90's....Avg. 40 and competing with Kirsten, Ganguly, Sachin, and other top-class batsmen of 90's against some of the best bowling attacks which were operating in 90's...

and no i'm not being [MENTION=22846]Nostalgic[/MENTION].

Is Moeen Ali good enough to compete with modern-day greats like AB, Amla, Kohli etc.....?
Hell no. Granted he's a handy allrounder, but he's just being used as an elegant slogger at the top, nothing concrete.

But I like Moeen's bowling...smooth stuff ala Swann. his bowling > batting.
 
savecricket said:
Wouldn't say he keep throwing it away. He's been put in that position to attack the opposition so he's allowed to take risks. Issue today was he got frustrated after a few tight deliveries bowled at him and a few play and misses. He was mentally weak to give away his wicket, he needed to ride through that difficult patch and come out the other side. Still developing for me.
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shami's ipl salary is more than entire pakistan team salary :misbah
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
IPL pays are the biggest.

In IPL Bhuvi has been a superior performer than Shami till now. Last IPL, Bhuvi outperformed Steyn with ease (but to be fair, Steyn wasn't his usual self - prev IPLs he was awesome).

If Shami performs better in IPL, he will get paid more.

Simple.
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If shami grows a beard...... only then does he deserve to be paid more dammit!!
 
savecricket said:
It's called international cricket and have you heard of the World Cup. Shami is on a discriminatory lower contract from the BCCI than the medium pace of Kumar. Nothing to do with IPL
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Ok.

It's called international cricket and have you heard of the World Cup.
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Oh cockiness.

Shami is on a discriminatory lower contract from the BCCI than the medium pace of Kumar. Nothing to do with IPL
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That's cos Bhuvi was established before Shami. Everyone when they perform will eventually get good contracts.

Here also started your religious based nonsense.

Mamoon is right.

Some of you guys really need to hear what he says (I said some not all).

:))
 
Moeen is doing my besti everyday, i have to pretend he's not from birmingham with performances like that.
 
London_Lahori said:
Some of his shots are elegant like Anwar.
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What's the point of elegance when it only lasts a couple of seconds bro, it's like you meeting a gorjus bird and you never truly make it last long enough to enjoy the full experience
 
Oh what do you know I just checked the scorecard and realised that Bhai has gone for his usual 15-20 score against a non minnow side :)
 
shaz619 said:
What's the point of elegance when it only lasts a couple of seconds bro, it's like you meeting a gorjus bird and you never truly make it last long enough to enjoy the full experience
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There's nothing wrong in saying someone plays like someone else, or someone's batting reminds you of someone else's.

Look at Darren Bravo, looks just like Lara. No one is calling him Brian Lara, but it's not a crime to say his style and shots remind people of Lara.
 
People are getting their knickers in a twist.

Nasser simply said it reminded of Anwar. He never said Anwar = Moeen.

The imperative word here is ''reminded.'' If one looks at some of Moeen's shots it sort of does remind of Anwar in terms of free effortless strokeplay but the comparison ends there.
 
SULTAN said:
lol wut.

Anwar was one of the best openers in 90's....Avg. 40 and competing with Kirsten, Ganguly, Sachin, and other top-class batsmen of 90's against some of the best bowling attacks which were operating in 90's...

and no i'm not being [MENTION=22846]Nostalgic[/MENTION].

Is Moeen Ali good enough to compete with modern-day greats like AB, Amla, Kohli etc.....?
Hell no. Granted he's a handy allrounder, but he's just being used as an elegant slogger at the top, nothing concrete.

But I like Moeen's bowling...smooth stuff ala Swann. his bowling > batting.
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He is a good batsman with elegance which is rare for Englishman. So they're hyping him. With bit of application he can become good opener for England
 
London_Lahori said:
There's nothing wrong in saying someone plays like someone else, or someone's batting reminds you of someone else's.

Look at Darren Bravo, looks just like Lara. No one is calling him Brian Lara, but it's not a crime to say his style and shots remind people of Lara.
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That's true his shots do remind me of his uncle, those calypso cover drives. And Mo's flicks of his pads are reminiscent of Anwar. Anyhow both don't have a 1/4 of the talent those legends had.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Ok.


Oh cockiness.



That's cos Bhuvi was established before Shami. Everyone when they perform will eventually get good contracts.

Here also started your religious based nonsense.

Mamoon is right.

Some of you guys really need to hear what he says (I said some not all).

:))
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Kumar is an awful bowler, his pace is like Ravi Bopara's yet he's the highest grade contract - make sense didn't it
 
shaz619 said:
That's true his shots do remind me of his uncle, those calypso cover drives. And Mo's flicks of his pads are reminiscent of Anwar. Anyhow both don't have a 1/4 of the talent those legends had.
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Of course there not as good as Lara or Anwar. What bugs me is Indian posters come into every thread of his troll. They're still sore at the treatment he gave them in the summer.
 
London_Lahori said:
Of course there not as good as Lara or Anwar. What bugs me is Indian posters come into every thread of his troll. They're still sore at the treatment he gave them in the summer.
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lol that's true now that you mention it :)) never thought about it before, it should make you feel better about them still being sore haha but in recent times I've not seen a specific cricketer be disliked more sure it must come from Mo doing well against India but it might also be to do with his pak origin, at Edgbaston they were cussing his heritage and religion that don't bother me so much it bothers me because they were his hometown fans lmao
 
shaz619 said:
lol that's true now that you mention it :)) never thought about it before, it should make you feel better about them still being sore haha but in recent times I've not seen a specific cricketer be disliked more sure it must come from Mo doing well against India but it might also be to do with his pak origin, at Edgbaston they were cussing his heritage and religion that don't bother me so much it bothers me because they were his hometown fans lmao
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Indian fans plus insecure facial hair Pakistanis
 
shaz619 said:
lol that's true now that you mention it :)) never thought about it before, it should make you feel better about them still being sore haha but in recent times I've not seen a specific cricketer be disliked more sure it must come from Mo doing well against India but it might also be to do with his pak origin, at Edgbaston they were cussing his heritage and religion that don't bother me so much it bothers me because they were his hometown fans lmao
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Lol vile fans, some of the worst in cricket. Then they'll try and tell you that they don't hate him because of his heritage or beard.
 
London_Lahori said:
Lol vile fans, some of the worst in cricket. Then they'll try and tell you that they don't hate him because of his heritage or beard.
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Am just ashamed of those folk from Birmingham, they shat on the spirit of Brum and how we epitomize the heartbeat of diversity and equality on the planet. It's like he's no different to them, a standard guy that grew up in a inner city with nothing and made it if anything he's a local hero/inspiration that proved to our community that you don't neccesarily need to turn to crime or take silly short cuts to make it he proved that with a little ambition you can go for. Anyhow because of some stupid pak/ind rivarly and his faith they cussed him and I'll never forgive those people for that, am just speaking in terms of the fans in my city but I don't know what the fans are like in London or any other city although it's apparent that they boo him in those places for various reasons
 
Right now he reminds me of an extremely pathetic version of Imran Farhat. Well he is making Imran Farhat look like Brian Lara.

Has been brutally exposed as a batsman on this tour and his bowling is nothing to write home about either.

Simply put, a nothing Test cricketer; useful in ODIs/T20s though.
 
Quality player and will rightfully be part of the English team for the near-future at least. Has been shunted up and down the order since his debut, while being the front-line spinner as well. Haters gonna hate.
 
Bilal7 said:
Quality player and will rightfully be part of the English team for the near-future at least. Has been shunted up and down the order since his debut, while being the front-line spinner as well. Haters gonna hate.
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Disagree. He is not quality enough to get into the XI with either bat or ball.

If Rashid gets into some form, he would easily replace Moeen in the XI. A 2nd spinner wont be required and there are other better bats who would be given a chance. So its pretty much a fight for the spinner's spot between Moeen and Rashid.
IMHO, Rashid has much brighter prospects.

Indians have trolled England big time after the spun us out last year.

ODIs though, its a different matter.
 
Moeen Ali will be eaten alive by Steyn and Morkel for breakfast if he opens in SA.
 
Bilal7 said:
How many experts want Ali out of the team?
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Who talked about dropping him? England find themselves in an unfortunate situation because they haven't found Swann heir, so have to put up with the likes of Moeen, Rashid, Patel etc. who aren't Test class.

The point is that Moeen has been exposed on this tour and you have to be pretty bad to get outperformed by Rashid in both batting and bowling, who wasn't part of the Test squad up until the summer.
 
Pathetic comparison, I'm almost certain he is messing with us. A lot of English commies are taking the mickey out of Pak fans, first Vaughn saying that we should play our home matches in Aus, then Botham saying we are afraid of Rashid, and now this nonsense. Pakistani commies should return the favor.

Moeen is a 2 bit hack who can't hold a candle to Anwar. One of the classiest and devastating openers of his era bring compared to a slogger. Only thing that is identical is their beard size.
 
Mamoon said:
Who talked about dropping him? England find themselves in an unfortunate situation because they haven't found Swann heir, so have to put up with the likes of Moeen, Rashid, Patel etc. who aren't Test class.

The point is that Moeen has been exposed on this tour and you have to be pretty bad to get outperformed by Rashid in both batting and bowling, who wasn't part of the Test squad up until the summer.
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Too early to brand Rashid as not a test class player. If anything, he has the goods to be a decent spinner in the Giles category. HE is definitely better than Moeen as a bowler though
 
Utterly crap but still good enough to hand the phainty to India. :akhtar
 
Sidilicious said:
Too early to brand Rashid as not a test class player. If anything, he has the goods to be a decent spinner in the Giles category. HE is definitely better than Moeen as a bowler though
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He is more talented than Moeen for sure but at the moment he's too raw. He needs to improve his bowling big time. However between the two, I'd take his bowling any time.
 
Mamoon said:
He is more talented than Moeen for sure but at the moment he's too raw. He needs to improve his bowling big time. However between the two, I'd take his bowling any time.
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Bit of a shame that chef doesn't agree with you - Rashid was under bowled in the previous innings.
 
Haroon786 said:
Bit of a shame that chef doesn't agree with you - Rashid was under bowled in the previous innings.
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England's management can be Pakistan-esque at times. Taylor not playing the first two Tests for example.
 
Mamoon said:
England's management can be Pakistan-esque at times. Taylor not playing the first two Tests for example.
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There's a difference between on field decisions and team selections.
 
He's more technically correct than Saeed .. I've not seen anyone with the hand speed of Saeed Anwar since the great man retired. Moeen's too flashy with the bat to be a Test cricketer imo, and his bowling doesn't really meet the standard required for a top-line spinner. That being said he's been shunted everywhere in this current England set-up, and making judgements on his batting from innings played at #8 or #1 is unwise. Wish him all the best in SA because he seems like a top bloke .. I hope he gets a real shot at #6, where he's probably going to be at his best.
 
#GreenRoars said:
He is worst than Imran Farhat
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Brother I think we should petition the PCB to return Imran Farhat to the Pakistan set-up just to remind you (and a few others) of who you're comparing Moeen to. Moeen may not appear to be Test-standard at the moment, but you wouldn't wanna pick Imran Farhat in a muckaround game with your mates in the park.
 
Poison said:
He's more technically correct than Saeed .. I've not seen anyone with the hand speed of Saeed Anwar since the great man retired. Moeen's too flashy with the bat to be a Test cricketer imo, and his bowling doesn't really meet the standard required for a top-line spinner. That being said he's been shunted everywhere in this current England set-up, and making judgements on his batting from innings played at #8 or #1 is unwise. Wish him all the best in SA because he seems like a top bloke .. I hope he gets a real shot at #6, where he's probably going to be at his best.
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Are you sure he's technically more correct than a guy averaged 45 in Test cricket in the 90's ?
 
Haroon786 said:
Are you sure he's technically more correct than a guy averaged 45 in Test cricket in the 90's ?
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Not sure how much Saeed Anwar you've seen. He was an incredible player whose incredible hands, timing and ridiculous hand-eye co-ordination pushed him towards greatness. His technique, talking in terms of how the textbooks want you to bat, was not watertight.
 
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