Moeen Ali vs Nasser Hussain

[Bilal7]

Who's the better player?

Moeen is an all-rounder and has become crucial with bat and ball for the English test side. He's won his country series against South Africa and India whilst putting in game-changing shifts consistently. He's also one of the revolutionaries who have turned England from zeroes to heroes in the shorter formats of the game.

Nasser, who played nearly 100 test matches for England, was a mental giant who used his inherent grit and towering levels of patience to score 14 test match centuries for his country. He's also a well-respected former England captain and was a decent, if unspectacular ODI player in his time.

 

[Big Mac]

Moeen Ali is the better player.

Nasser Hussain was more important for English cricket.

 

[AlizeeFan]

Nasser Hussain was a mediocre player.

 

[Zaz]

Nasser Hussain He played at a time when england were a pretty mediocre test team and there were some pretty good test bowlers around

He had more responsibility batting at 3-4 and being captain of the team

Im not taking anything away from moeen but batting at 7-8 in a good team and counter attacking doesnt require the same level of responsibility as was required by nasser in his time

It was his captaincy that led to a change in mentality and helped lay the foundations for the successes of say 2005 ashes and onwards

 

[Markhor]

Nasser was pretty average but his captaincy was what turned England around after the shambolic 1990s period that saw England at the bottom of the Wisden Rankings below Zimbabwe.

He benefited from central contracts being brought in whereby bowlers wouldn't turn up for national duty having been run into the ground by their county. Duncan Fletcher also had a good eye for talent bringing in players like Trescothick and Vaughan despite average county records.

Moeen Ali is certainly culturally significant and a better strokeplayer but we're comparing apples and oranges. One is an all rounder who has license to hit lower down the order while the other was a grafter with the responsibility of captaincy.

 

[Ab Fan]

How come Moen Ali revolutionised England OdI cricket and made them heroes from zeroes in that format?What you really want to say?

Its Apple and orange comparison. Really no sense in comparing.

Ali might end up as a better player overall but Hussain was a great captain.

 

[another drop catch]

moeen ali as he is playing in lower order

 

[Bilal7]

How come Moen Ali revolutionised England OdI cricket and made them heroes from zeroes in that format?What you really want to say?

Its Apple and orange comparison. Really no sense in comparing.

Ali might end up as a better player overall but Hussain was a great captain.

Ali, along with his contemporaries, has made England into a completely different beast to what they were before 2015.

They're both cricket players so comparing them isn't as impossible as you make it seem. If you were given the choice between these two players, which one would you pick for your team?

 

[Ab Fan]

Ali, along with his contemporaries, has made England into a completely different beast to what they were before 2015.

They're both cricket players so comparing them isn't as impossible as you make it seem. If you were given the choice between these two players, which one would you pick for your team?

I will pick Moen. Don't rate Nasser.

 

[Slog]

Lol random comparison

Are you comparing them because they are of Asian origin?

 

[Zaz]

Ali, along with his contemporaries, has made England into a completely different beast to what they were before 2015.

They're both cricket players so comparing them isn't as impossible as you make it seem. If you were given the choice between these two players, which one would you pick for your team?

Test team or odi? Nasser adds value in terms of captaincy and acumen of the game Ali adds value as hes a bowler

They both had very different roles as players and played in different eras so yes it is a bit of comparing oranges with apples

 

[Adil_94]

both had very different roles. Nasser was a gritty top order batsman while Moeen is a lower order biffer and an off spinner.

Both also played in very different eras against different standards of bowling.

Both have been culturally importanr figures for England.

Nasser is often credited for being behind the English revival in the early 2000s after they sank to rockbottom of the Test Rankings in 1999. Him n Duncan Fletcher turned it around and were the catalyst for change for England.

beating WI in a test series for the first time in 31 years in 2000. And beating SL and Pak away from home in late 2000.

Nasser reinvigorated the English cricket team with his captaincy and leadership from the doldrums of the 90s.

its hard to compare them. if Moeen carries on like this for another few years then he will.most likely become Englands greatest Asian heritage player.

atm i think Nasser still has that spot not just him as a player but the role he played in Englands revival.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Both are mediocre. Moeen ali may be more useful with his part time off spin. His batting has lot of holes. That he averages poorly against better sides. Probably on a road where he comes off (with few drops along the way) he can look good. Technically he is very poor. Hussain can protect his wicket .

 

[Bilal7]

Lol random comparison

Are you comparing them because they are of Asian origin?

Yes.

Test team or odi? Nasser adds value in terms of captaincy and acumen of the game Ali adds value as hes a bowler

They both had very different roles as players and played in different eras so yes it is a bit of comparing oranges with apples

Pretty sure it is unanimous that Ali is the better ODI player so test cricket is where a more meaningful debate can take place.

Both are mediocre. Moeen ali may be more useful with his part time off spin. His batting has lot of holes. That he averages poorly against better sides. Probably on a road where he comes off (with few drops along the way) he can look good. Technically he is very poor. Hussain can protect his wicket .

Mediocre players don't win two MOTS awards in two different formats over the course of two months. Moeen Ali is the best all-rounder in the world right now, assuming Stokes is banned for good.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Yes.



Pretty sure it is unanimous that Ali is the better ODI player so test cricket is where a more meaningful debate can take place.



Mediocre players don't win two MOTS awards in two different formats over the course of two months. Moeen Ali is the best all-rounder in the world right now, assuming Stokes is banned for good.

Just throwing the bat around without fear of losing wicket (He was dropped atleast 4 times during that 100) won't make him good. All he did was against an average side like West Indies .

 

[Bilal7]

Just throwing the bat around without fear of losing wicket (He was dropped atleast 4 times during that 100) won't make him good. All he did was against an average side like West Indies .

Which hundred are you talking about? The two he scored in India, the one he scored against Pakistan with England under severe pressure or the century in his debut series against Sri Lanka where he almost took England to safety but for Anderson sadly unable to play out the last couple of deliveries? I don't remember him "throwing the bat around without fear of losing wicket" (sic) in any of them.

He won MOTS against South Africa. They are not an average team.

 

[Robert]

Nass played in an era of stronger bowling than Moeen, who has never had to face Wasim, Waqar, Warne, McGrath, Ambrose, Walsh or Murali.

He was a very good skipper for England and secured away wins in Pakistan and SL. If Gough and Caddick had been able to benefit from central contracts he would have won more.

 

[shaz619]

As it stands am going with Hussain given how he kept the ship sailing during a tough period in challenging times. You could say he was a sort of Misbah ul Haq Character for England, have a lot of respect for him and use to look up to him while growing up.

Moeen is fantastic in his own right and one of the most important members of a sports team in England. A shining light for modern britain if you will. The goal henceforth is to play 100 Tests from here, the rest will take care of itself.

These two are easily the greatest asian origin England cricketers I've ever seen without a doubt and are people I've looked up to; both are a gift for England cricket.

 

[Bilal7]

As it stands am going with Hussain given how he kept the ship sailing during a tough period in challenging times. You could say he was a sort of Misbah ul Haq Character for England, have a lot of respect for him and use to look up to him while growing up.

Moeen is fantastic in his own right and one of the most important members of a sports team in England. A shining light for modern britain if you will. The goal henceforth is to play 100 Tests from here, the rest will take care of itself.

These two are easily the greatest asian origin England cricketers I've ever seen without a doubt and are people I've looked up to; both are a gift for England cricket.

Nothing better than watching Moeen bat and Nasser commentate. Big fan of both.