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I dont care about his performances right now because he is still new to the scene and is developing.

But what irks ke is the way his persona appears on the field. He just looks so timid. That is unacceptable for me.

Imad looks like a shrewd character and i would prefer him 10 out of 10 times.
 
Terrible body language and Rashid Latif keeps claiming that he is a Top order Batsmen, no way!

Pakistan needs a genuine allrounder and this guy is not it.

I hope he goes back and improves ten fold
 
Mohammad Nawaz as an opener in Limited Overs?

Nawaz has looked extremely good against pace, Can score at decent rate. Will be able to give us good start against pace by stroke play.

Will surely do better than likes of Azhar and Imam? Also very handy with the ball.
 
Why not, not a bad option. He has already scored a century as an opener in List A cricket.
 
Too short to handle the short balls and bounce well. In Asia I think he will be fine but in Aus, SA, NZ etc he'll struggle. He struggled in NZ recently in the first t20 IIRC when he came one down. That wasn't the best move by Sarfraz
 
:)) whoever gets a 15-20 score in a match get them to open for the national team. :))

Unfortunately this is what Pakistan cricket has become. After the NZ debacle, where most of our batsmen couldn't even get into double figures, anyone who can score more then 10 runs at a decent SR is considered as a potential savior. :amir2
 
At this point, why the hell not? The only upside to our opening issue is that before we were playing musical chairs with both opening positions, now we're playing musical chairs with one of the opening positions with Fakhar cementing his opening spot. Personally, I'd want a Fakhar-Farhan opening duo (provided Farhan plays out of his skin this PSL).
 
Can be useful as a pinch hitter in certain situations but not a long term option.
 
no, he is useful when bowl getting old. may be he is a good in number he is playing now . but better thing is that he to make talender spot strong. good going. let see rest of psl.
 
Overall in the past year he seems to have slightly improved his batting particularly his power game. Hopefully he will continue to develop further.
 
Nawaz has bowled really well, then again, he has done that in LOIs cricket for a while now and I feel he should be a regular in the Pakistan side BUT I dont like the idea of having him bat up the order. A player with his technique will be found out against good new ball bowling, especially in 50 overs. Keeping him as a potential lower order hitter makes more sense.
 
I think Nawaz is way better than Imad and is young too.
His batting as well as bowling is better than Imad.
Imad shud not play anything apart from T20Is
 
Nawaz is a beast but Imad is better, though in 3-4 years I'd have him replace the latter in the team.
 
Not convinced. Shadab managed to bowl a maiden against this guy. He looked clueless at the crease. Seems to play the lofted shots well though.
 
Nawaz bowled well today. 4-0-17-1 with the wicket of Joe Denly.
 
No one should consider him an allrounder, he's a bowler who can bat a bit. A few pretty 20s doesn't make someone an allrounder. He needs to perform with the bat consistently, his bowling alone, is not good enough to earn him a spot in the LOI teams.
 
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He's a pretty good played. Pretty good bowler and decent with the bat. Not to mention a solid fielder
 
He's bowling well but just not the sort of player that gets you excited, and he's garbage with the bat but so is his competitor Imad. I'd rather Nawaz than Imad if it came down to it, Nawaz is more conventional, while Imad is so limited that I feel any batsman that has a brain of a flat deck will relish the chance of facing him.
 
His bowling is good enough for a no.7, but don't think his batting is. Rather go with Maqsood who I believe has greater hitting ability. I'd have him in the squad though as I don't see many other spin options to partner Shadab if needed.

In ODIs I'd play:

1. Haris
2. Fakhar
3. Babar
4. Sarfraz
5. Malik
6. Talat
7. Maqsood
8. Shadab
9. Amir
10. Hasan
11. Junaid/Shinwari

For T20s, rest Haris, move everyone else up and play either Fahim or Imad at 7, depending on pitch/team needs. Atm I'd lean towards Fahim.
 
His bowling is good enough for a no.7, but don't think his batting is. Rather go with Maqsood who I believe has greater hitting ability. I'd have him in the squad though as I don't see many other spin options to partner Shadab if needed.

In ODIs I'd play:

1. Haris
2. Fakhar
3. Babar
4. Sarfraz
5. Malik
6. Talat
7. Maqsood
8. Shadab
9. Amir
10. Hasan
11. Junaid/Shinwari

For T20s, rest Haris, move everyone else up and play either Fahim or Imad at 7, depending on pitch/team needs. Atm I'd lean towards Fahim.

5th bowling option is not a wicket taking one, and might be targeted by opposition.I would rather go for Faheem, Imad or Nawaz in place of either Talat or Maqsood.

Coming at 5 down position you just need a cameo of may be 20, 30 quickfire runs and if you need more that after being 5 down you are already in trouble.
 
No one should consider him an allrounder, he's a bowler who can bat a bit. A few pretty 20s doesn't make someone an allrounder. He needs to perform with the bat consistently, his bowling alone, is not good enough to earn him a spot in the LOI teams.

At 5 down position how much should he be scoring and kindly tell me how much others playing at that number in other teams have scored which you consider goob enough
 
As I have repeatedly said that guy has got some talent. He is the only left arm conventional spinner in the world who actually spins the ball that much.

He has improved his batting as well a lot and has got talent with it. Some people cant look beyond the runs scored, to me its the impact a player at 5 down position have made on the game and he has created impact with the bat in two games, one QG lost and one won.

He is bit unlucky that he has to compete with Shadab and Imad.
 
Did you see the match against KK where he scored 30 runs of 20 balls. Coming at 4,5 down what else do you expect

Yes 1 match compared to all the other time where he has failed in PSL and internationally. Let's make him the captain and our Prime Minister as well. :inti
 
Lol! Economy of under 5 is ridiculous in a T20 competition and some people dont find it good enough
 
Yes 1 match compared to all the other time where he has failed in PSL and internationally. Let's make him the captain and our Prime Minister as well. :inti

Wow! So you cant state anyone else who has done miles better than him at that number so you thought its better to steer the conversation. Captain, prime minister??? Your words not mine.

He also hit a six against MS in a cruical situation.
 
Yes 1 match compared to all the other time where he has failed in PSL and internationally. Let's make him the captain and our Prime Minister as well. :inti

And also you forgot the match against NZ where he played some really good shots and got us back in the game.

I am not saying he is next sobers, just that if the guy is groomed he would definitely be a better LOI player than Santner, Jadeja, Agar etc who are his contemporaries and the guy is just 23 years old.
 
5th bowling option is not a wicket taking one, and might be targeted by opposition.I would rather go for Faheem, Imad or Nawaz in place of either Talat or Maqsood.

Coming at 5 down position you just need a cameo of may be 20, 30 quickfire runs and if you need more that after being 5 down you are already in trouble.

When the rest of the teams are playing guys who average with the bat 35/40 at 7 with bowling averages of 40/50, not sure we can justify going with a bowling allrounder. Times have changed, teams aren't playing bowling allrounders down at 7 anymore, they'll take the batsman, even if he's an average/poor part timer. Just look at the NZ for example. New Zealand usually play Grandhomme at 7 who isn't a great bowler by any means. India play now Pandya (and before Jadhav). Australia Maxwell, SA Behardien. Even England play Moeen. None of these guys are particularly good bowlers, a lot of them average 50/40 with the ball. That's just part timer standard and average at best.

Making up the overs with part timers and stacking your batting is becoming the norm (it's always been the norm really). We have quite a lot of part timers already, Malik and even Haris really are better than a lot of those part timers. Talat and Fakhar can bowl too. Multiple part timers are arguably better than one sole allrounder bowler too as more options, more difficult to predict.

If the batting strong teams are packing their batting, and we're trying to boost our bowling despite being a batting weak team, there's a problem. A long batting line up gives the confidence to play more aggressively, and more bats to play with thus less stalling in the run rate.

What I can see in most teams is that 1-7 are proper batsmen regardless of their bowling abilities. And the no.8 batsman can bat too in addition to bowling. We moan about our batting, but we've ever rarely even been willing to sacrifice bowling in the slightest to boost it. We just accept our fate as a mediocre batting team.
 
When the rest of the teams are playing guys who average with the bat 35/40 at 7 with bowling averages of 40/50, not sure we can justify going with a bowling allrounder. Times have changed, teams aren't playing bowling allrounders down at 7 anymore, they'll take the batsman, even if he's an average/poor part timer. Just look at the NZ for example. New Zealand usually play Grandhomme at 7 who isn't a great bowler by any means. India play now Pandya (and before Jadhav). Australia Maxwell, SA Behardien. Even England play Moeen. None of these guys are particularly good bowlers, a lot of them average 50/40 with the ball. That's just part timer standard and average at best.

Making up the overs with part timers and stacking your batting is becoming the norm (it's always been the norm really). We have quite a lot of part timers already, Malik and even Haris really are better than a lot of those part timers. Talat and Fakhar can bowl too. Multiple part timers are arguably better than one sole allrounder bowler too as more options, more difficult to predict.

If the batting strong teams are packing their batting, and we're trying to boost our bowling despite being a batting weak team, there's a problem. A long batting line up gives the confidence to play more aggressively, and more bats to play with thus less stalling in the run rate.

What I can see in most teams is that 1-7 are proper batsmen regardless of their bowling abilities. And the no.8 batsman can bat too in addition to bowling. We moan about our batting, but we've ever rarely even been willing to sacrifice bowling in the slightest to boost it. We just accept our fate as a mediocre batting team.

Agreed that modern strategies are being batting heavy and having batting all rounders. Pakistan would need to find a good balance which doesnt disturb their bowling which still is our strength and give us the same fire power as other teams.
 
[MENTION=142432]Titan24[/MENTION] do you think Nawaz is an odi option more suitable than imad.I think it is?
 
[MENTION=142432]Titan24[/MENTION] do you think Nawaz is an odi option more suitable than imad.I think it is?

Yes in terms of spinner he is a complete spinner while Imad is mostly effective with his arm bowls and that also mainly with the new ball.

Nawaz can definitely ball well with new as well as old ball and plus the way he has started to express himself in batting is pretty impressive. He spins the on almost most surfaces which is a rare trait to have as a conventional finger spinner. The way he generates rips on the ball along with that pivot rotation is outstanding.

With Imad you get someone who doesnt get bog down with the situation irrespective of the opposition which is his main mojo along with the in drift and you need players who are not overwhelmed by the game situation when you are playing big matches. He also have good game sense.

In terms of solely skill wise I think Nawaz adds a lot more to team than Imad does. Also Nawaz has improved a lot in the department which was Imad's strength i.e control over nerves and dont choke under pressure.
 
Yes in terms of spinner he is a complete spinner while Imad is mostly effective with his arm bowls and that also mainly with the new ball.

Nawaz can definitely ball well with new as well as old ball and plus the way he has started to express himself in batting is pretty impressive. He spins the on almost most surfaces which is a rare trait to have as a conventional finger spinner. The way he generates rips on the ball along with that pivot rotation is outstanding.

With Imad you get someone who doesnt get bog down with the situation irrespective of the opposition which is his main mojo along with the in drift and you need players who are not overwhelmed by the game situation when you are playing big matches. He also have good game sense.

In terms of solely skill wise I think Nawaz adds a lot more to team than Imad does. Also Nawaz has improved a lot in the department which was Imad's strength i.e control over nerves and dont choke under pressure.

Did he improve his batting against spin?
 
he's terrible

he and imad are basically the bhatti & anwar ali we have

except these 2 are even worse with the bat


couldn't care less about the psl performances
 
Did he improve his batting against spin?

He still struggles but considering his exponential growth over the last year he will be able to overcome the deficiencies soon. Even Imad isnt very good against spin but may be a bit better than Nawaz.

Problem with almost all our current generation batsmen is that they struggle against spin, something which was our strength in past except Fakhar. Be it Babar, Maqsoosd, Umar, Nawaz, Shehzad, Sharjeel and even Haris to some extent in LOIs. Really need to arrange some training camp to over come these deficiencies.
 
he's terrible

he and imad are basically the bhatti & anwar ali we have

except these 2 are even worse with the bat


couldn't care less about the psl performances

He was pretty decent in NZ as well. You dont rate that as well? Also I guess the guy has never played 5 consecutive international matches so its too early to form your opinion.
 
He was pretty decent in NZ as well. You dont rate that as well? Also I guess the guy has never played 5 consecutive international matches so its too early to form your opinion.

The small sample size is not bad,Needs chances at least in t20.
 
He can replace Imad who has completely lost it with the bat.

Shadab and Nawaz can be the spin bowling pair for Pakistan in LOs.
 
Zafar is clearly the superior bowler.
 
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Nawaz is bowling really well, got the first wicket to PZ on the back foot.
 
he's been great in all the PSL's consistently- excellent bowling, I want to see him bat more

irregardless, he in the Sohail Tanvir mould, great for domestic T20 cups but I don't want to see him in Pakistani colours anytime soon
 
he's been great in all the PSL's consistently- excellent bowling, I want to see him bat more

irregardless, he in the Sohail Tanvir mould, great for domestic T20 cups but I don't want to see him in Pakistani colours anytime soon

Hahahaha. Bro he was already part of the T20 and ODI squad of Pakistan and I dont think he is gonna be dropped anytime soon.

Sohail Tanvir was an unorthodox bowler however Nawaz is a conventional spinner and still getting wickets. Its a wrong comparison. Nawaz has played played very limited international cricket and he has done ok. Nothing to rave about but nothing too bad either but now he looks a much more complete player.
 
He can replace Imad who has completely lost it with the bat.

Shadab and Nawaz can be the spin bowling pair for Pakistan in LOs.

Agreedbut he needs to play more, played his first competitive game after 7 months so let him play more.
 
And also you forgot the match against NZ where he played some really good shots and got us back in the game.

I am not saying he is next sobers, just that if the guy is groomed he would definitely be a better LOI player than Santner, Jadeja, Agar etc who are his contemporaries and the guy is just 23 years old.


Better than Santner LOL? Please take your green tinted glasses off for once.
 
Told you he can't bat and his bowling is only good on turning pitches. He's another pseudo all rounder like Anwar Ali.

I have been right about so many players. I should be the selector... :yk
 
[MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION] is not a fan of this bloke
 
He is a completely changed batsman now a days with more all round game as a batsman.
This improved Nawaz can be in WC squad if he can strongly present his case in PSL4.
 
Made my blood boil whenever he was named in a Pakistan squad.

The very definition of the term pseudo all-rounder.
 
I never liked this guy as he was a bits and pieces cricketer before but watching bat recently he has improved leaps and bounds should definitely be in the pakistan world cup squad but has to perform in upcoming PSL to justify his place
 
Anyone have video of Nawaz Batting recently. People are making it seem he's improved a lot. He looked good in Mzanzi super league in South Africa but still not sure. If anyone could upload a video it would be great.
 
Anyone have video of Nawaz Batting recently. People are making it seem he's improved a lot. He looked good in Mzanzi super league in South Africa but still not sure. If anyone could upload a video it would be great.

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Some of his batting highlights from today 7:30 onwards.
 
Why are people saying his batting has improved? His batting was always good even before he played for Pakistan. Just not good enough for international cricket yet. Imad Wasim is clearly a superior player to him.
 
To be honest I backed this guy. He was really good all-round at the U19 level.

But, like Sami Aslam, it seems like he hasn't been able to replicate it internationally.
 
Any takers? What say you?

His classical technique could be key in England if picked. He has a high score of 180 in List-A and for good reason.
 
One of the greatest current allrounders in the world. Pakistan are wasting him.
 
Mohammad Nawaz scored 62 runs off 75 balls against Pakistan Navy in the semi-final of Patron's Trophy Grade-II.
 
He did well in the final of BPL- 41 off 20 with the bat and 1/29 from four overs with the ball.
 
Another mediocre bits and pieces AR who has found his level like Shadab in BPL.
 
To his credit, he keeps on trying - who knows - he may have become a better player due to BPL?

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