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Mohammad Rizwan - A must for the 2019 World Cup squad?

Mohammad Rizwan - a must for the 2019 World Cup squad?

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2 100s do far versus Australia in the ODI series.

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Do you think he should be picked for the World Cup squad?
 
I dont know, unless selectors punish players for playing selfishly at the expense of the team, the culture of selfish individual performances at the expense of the team will never be dealt with
 
No.

Selfish player. Waited for his 100, when the team needed boundaries. Need to get rid of those.
 
He is the most selfish player i have ever seen in Pakistan period. He deserve to not even play in domestic and banned permanently playing in Pakistan after today.
 
He's done enough to be selected. People who are saying he was being selfish are clueless. He was trying to accelerate it just wasn't coming off. He does need to improve in acceleration. But he still scored at a strike rate of over a 100. Why is nothing being said about Haris innings? That was a pathetic strike rate. But for some reason he is immune to critiscm on this forum. Also Umar Akmal and Imad dismissals were pathetic.
 
xricket said:
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Selfish player. Waited for his 100, when the team needed boundaries. Need to get rid of those.
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Absolutely this. He wasted unbelievable amount of balls when he could have taken the game away from Australia, just so he can get his 100.
 
Desprado123 said:
He is the most selfish player i have ever seen in Pakistan period. He deserve to not even play in domestic and banned permanently playing in Pakistan after today.
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Oh, I know another one. Hussain Talat. That selfish innings in South Africa recently.
 
This is the worst hundred I have ever seen, puts amla to shame. Should be in Team as a waterboy.
 
What are you talking about he lost the match with selfish batting clearly he played for hundred
 
Don’t think so we don’t have number 4 slot open for him with hafeez or Mallik playing
Plus he takes lot of deliveries . Even in dead rubber he couldn’t manage to take over the line
Don’t see him scoring In pressure situations
 
Savak said:
I dont know, unless selectors punish players for playing selfishly at the expense of the team, the culture of selfish individual performances at the expense of the team will never be dealt with
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This. Selectors have to come hard on selfish players otherwise every player will play for himself and not the team.
 
I'm not sure he was being selfish. There seems to be a trend where the guy on the big score can concentrate on his milestone/staying in, while the new guy is expected to hit out. It's a wrong strat by Pakistan in most cases, new batsmen in are vunerable and need time to get in. Which is why sometimes you see them getting out as a 1 run off 5 balls for example, not because they didn't try but they swung each time and just didn't connect properly as hadn't played themselves in.

Should be on the set batsman to increase run rate. Why it's important to play players who have the ability to accelerate once they've played themselves in. There's quite a few players who simply lack this skill in our team.

I do think he still deserves a place simply as the rest will do worse. Haris, Imam etc. will do the same thing, but score with a worse SR overall. At least this guy scored with SR 100 overall.
 
58 required of last 9 overs and still we couldnt win despite Rizwan being set. Dont tell me he was not selfish.
 
Slowing down so that you can get a ton when the match is in the balance is the definition of being selfish. I wouldn't want such players to be near the side even if they hit a century in every match.
 
He should be in the squad but only should play if sarfraz is not available.

Sarfraz may be stupid at times but he always bats to win.
 
If a set batsman cannot score 40 odd of the last 5 overs,what is he in the team for?One of the most shameless innings I have ever seen and I hope this costs him the world cup spot!
 
Haris and him are one of most boring batsmen to watch
Hope none in WC
 
He will be sitting ducks against starc/Cummins/Rabada/Nigidi/Boult/Bumrah/Wood/Ferguson/Stokes.. to name a few.. People still believe he will stand against those bowlers huh not in a million years.
 
If Rizwan Shinwari and Haris are in WC squad
No need to watch it then
 
I am not sold on him. He is another in a long line of players who cannot hit boundaries when needed.

We have plenty who can construct innings so what value will Rizwan add? As a reserve keeper, he certainly has a slot, if Pakistan have that in mind.
 
Hopefully this is the end of Sarfraz who has been outperformed in every department by Rizwan
 
Asif321 said:
Konse zamane ki machine se spot karte ho?
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Haris is a good player and I know many would disagree with his current performance, but he can play proper shots. Kind of like less refined left hand version of Babar Azam with more aggression against spin
 
there was a test match in nz couple of years ago when when pak needed to bat 3 overs to draw. team was however 8 down and rizwan was batting with tail. so guess what rizwan did?

he took a single at the start of the over and pak lost two wickets in that over and lost the match.

seems he has not learnt much. and neither have we.
 
Hasan123 said:
He's done enough to be selected. People who are saying he was being selfish are clueless. He was trying to accelerate it just wasn't coming off. He does need to improve in acceleration. But he still scored at a strike rate of over a 100. Why is nothing being said about Haris innings? That was a pathetic strike rate. But for some reason he is immune to critiscm on this forum. Also Umar Akmal and Imad dismissals were pathetic.
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Brother when Haris was batting the required run rate were around 5 when he was set on the crease why he allowed required run rate to keep increasing from 54 of 60 in the last over how on earth it went to 17 from last over. He was set and it was his responsibilty to finish the match. If that was the case he was looking for 100 i am afraid he should be shown the exit door forever.
 
while sarfraz has not been performing in recent times, i can point to numerous matches where he has single-handedly dragged the team over the line including in that key game against sl in champions trophy. very few players in current pk team can claim such achievement. and he was the guy who was almost in the same boat as fawad alam. sarfraz kept positive attitude despite avg 40+ in domestic and not being given a chance. there was one series in nz few years back when senior akmal's performance was so bad that sarfraz was called as replacement in the middle of the series. sarfraz played one match after which he was dropped for senior akmal. nothing was heard from sarfraz for a couple of years.

clearly something is going on the background which is impacting the mindset. i would guess inzi's presence has something to do with it. unless things get sorted off the field, we should not have high expectations
 
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burger_uno said:
while sarfraz has not been performing in recent times, i can point to numerous matches where he has single-handedly dragged the team over the line including in that key game against sl in champions trophy. very few players in current pk team can claim such achievement. and he was the guy who was almost in the same boat as fawad alam. sarfraz kept positive attitude despite avg 40+ in domestic and not being given a chance. there was one serious in nz few years back when senior akmal's performance was so bad that sarfraz was called as replacement in the middle of the series. sarfraz played one match after which he was dropped for senior akmal. nothing was heard from sarfraz for a couple of years.

clearly something is going on the background which is impacting the mindset. i would guess inzi's presence has something to do with it. unless things get sorted off the field, we should not have high expectations
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One can criticize Sarfraz for everything but one cannot question his commitment and selfless attitude towards the team. There are many many occasions where he could have come up to the order and scored cheap runs but he allowed others to bat. Plus you wont see Sarfraz playing for personal milestones.
 
Rizwan was unlucky as lot of balls got wasted from the other end. He is no hitter but tried his best don’t understand the criticism when guy scored at more than 100 strike rate. The other 9 players were doing what? If anyone has to be blamed it should be a management Akmal and Imad. After abid ali got out saad ali should have come in and then after Akmal with pressure mounting Imad should have come instead of Saad. Just no thought processs
 
Blame should go to Haris and Akmal. Rizwan scored well so deserves to be backup keeper in squad.
 
Inconsistent.

2 100s in this series is an improvement but I wouldn't count on him doing that under pressure in England. Also, the 2nd 100 today felt like he was playing for that WC spot towards the end, instead of trying push on.
 
waseempk said:
Brother when Haris was batting the required run rate were around 5 when he was set on the crease why he allowed required run rate to keep increasing from 54 of 60 in the last over how on earth it went to 17 from last over. He was set and it was his responsibilty to finish the match. If that was the case he was looking for 100 i am afraid he should be shown the exit door forever.
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Yes he should have done better at the end. But Haris and Umar Akmal also should know better.
 
Similar thread was created after PSL and UA got selected... history repeats itself disaster if Rizwan get selected as batsmen or WK. pick Abid he csn keep.
 
The Viper said:
Blame should go to Haris and Akmal. Rizwan scored well so deserves to be backup keeper in squad.
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This. Haris wasted too many balls in the powerplay and ended his innings with a strike rate of around 50, rest of the blame I will put on management for sending Saad Ali who was on debut before Imad. Also saving Umar Akmal for these sort of brainy situations never ends well.
 
Hasan123 said:
He's done enough to be selected. People who are saying he was being selfish are clueless. He was trying to accelerate it just wasn't coming off. He does need to improve in acceleration. But he still scored at a strike rate of over a 100. Why is nothing being said about Haris innings? That was a pathetic strike rate. But for some reason he is immune to critiscm on this forum. Also Umar Akmal and Imad dismissals were pathetic.
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I swear these people don't deserve players such as Babar and Rizwan. Constantly grilling them for being 'selfish', the only batsman who batted above a strike rate of 100 is selfish. Wallahi our fans are ridiculous and deserve this loss.
 
he wasn't selfish.
he just can't hit sixes. he should go for world cup but should only play in the team when sarfraz or babar is injured
 
Stop blaming him for yesterday lose .Pakistan lost due to Umar Akmal,Immy and Harish brainless batting not due to Rizwan .
 
Even Umar Akmal must be shocked by people not blaming him for yesterday's lost. But we only believe in 1 man army, who can get all 277 runs. Rest if the players are their just for formality.
 
If you have a problem with Fawad Alam, then let me tell you, he's inferior to even Fawad.

Very limited game. Will be like a headless chicken under lights on most occasions, against any half decent bowling.

Will never be able to hit sixes or boundaries.

If we want to lose, sure play him. I don't want Fawad Alam neither Rizwan.
 
Sarfraz's fans are crying nice to see. You guys need any tissues [MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION], [MENTION=143023]SarfiBabarHaris[/MENTION]. I have plenty for you guys. Calling his innings selfish shows how bitter you guys are.
 
Hawkeye said:
If you have a problem with Fawad Alam, then let me tell you, he's inferior to even Fawad.

Very limited game. Will be like a headless chicken under lights on most occasions, against any half decent bowling.

Will never be able to hit sixes or boundaries.

If we want to lose, sure play him. I don't want Fawad Alam neither Rizwan.
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He played over 100sr. What else did he need to do for us to chase the total Mr genius.
 
Khan12 said:
Sarfraz's fans are crying nice to see. You guys need any tissues [MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION], [MENTION=143023]SarfiBabarHaris[/MENTION]. I have plenty for you guys. Calling his innings selfish shows how bitter you guys are.
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Why your posts are about this fan or that fan?

I have praised Rizwan multiple times before and i dont dislike him even i have said that he is one of the most clutch batsman in Pakistan but not only me but 75% of those who watched the matched yesterday in last 7 overs called him for his selfishness which costed Pakistan the game.

It seems you are more concerned what others think about players rather than enjoying the game and having your own opinion.Keep your tissues to yourself, you need it more. And hopefully next time you wont be personal otherwise get ready to get taste of your own medicine.
 
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SarfiBabarHaris said:
Why your posts are about this fan or that fan?

I have praised Rizwan multiple times before and i dont dislike him even i have said that he is one of the most clutch batsman in Pakistan but not only me but 75% of those who watched the matched yesterday in last 7 overs called him for his selfishness which costed Pakistan the game.

It seems you are more concerned what others think about players rather than enjoying the game and having your own opinion.Keep your tissues to yourself, you need it more. And hopefully next time you wont be personal otherwise get ready to get taste of your own medicine.
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Yes only sarfraz fans are calling it selfish. Plus how can we forget him celebrating his hundred. Jumping up and down. Right.
 
Khan12 said:
Yes only sarfraz fans are calling it selfish. Plus how can we forget him celebrating his hundred. Jumping up and down. Right.
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Yes likes of Hawkeye and Madplayer and Dr Bassim and Asif321 etc are all Sarfraz fans. I dont have the energy to write all the names.

Also do you mean we cannot comment on the game if we are fans of certain players?

Plus check match thread many were calling him out for his celebration.

For once start analyzing matches rather than posters and getting personal with them. I dont remeber when i got personal with you.
 
SarfiBabarHaris said:
Yes likes of Hawkeye and Madplayer and Dr Bassim and Asif321 etc are all Sarfraz fans. I dont have the energy to write all the names.

Also do you mean we cannot comment on the game if we are fans of certain players?

Plus check match thread many were calling him out for his celebration.

For once start analyzing matches rather than posters and getting personal with them. I dont remeber when i got personal with you.
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Yes he didn't even take his helmet off but yes he was celebrating. For once watch the match then comment. If people think he celebrated then I don't what they were watching.
 
Khan12 said:
Yes he didn't even take his helmet off but yes he was celebrating. For once watch the match then comment. If people think he celebrated then I don't what they were watching.
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Yeah as if taking off helmet is the only way of celebration. I dont know the English word for that but he was clearly seen putting his hands above and he did similar celebration in 2nd match too (but took off the helmet there too). He didnt celebrate over the top but still it was a celebration and posters didnt like it as the match was on line and Rizwan played slow in last 5 overs to get his century which costed Pakistan the game.

And no we all were not watching the match rather than just commenting in match thread as time pass. Lol.

Even Bassim made a thread on the celebration and later the thread's name was changed.
 
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Those who think Rizwan didnt celebrate, here is a link of highlights of the match from PCB's youtube account. Watch from 16:04 till 16:24 keeping in mind the context of the game: Your team required 49 off 7 and then you played slow to get to your century as the run rate goes up and now 22 runs are required in last 2 overs. Then you take a single on first ball to get to your century and celebrated like below, not over the top but still celebrated (your team requires 11 off 21 now).

Other players like Saad, Imad, Umar and Yasir were finding it hard to score fast as it was difficult to get in and hit but you still kept playing at run a ball.

I will let people decide for themselves. For me i wouldn't have celebrated till my team has won the match. Not in second last over for sure.

P.S: This is only about this particular match and this scenario and i am not talking abour Rizwan's overall innings.

 
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Scored 104 at 100+ SR and still get blamed. On the other day UA made 48 at a SR of 90+ and that was celebrated like that was the only reason pak were able to put up 280 on the board and blaming Haris’ 100 as selfish and was the reason for the lose.

So in PP a 100 will be celebrated only if that comes from UA or AS bat.
 
SarfiBabarHaris said:
Those who think Rizwan didnt celebrate, here is a link of highlights of the match from PCB's youtube account. Watch from 16:04 till 16:24 keeping in mind the context of the game: Your team required 49 off 7 and then you played slow to get to your century as the run rate goes up and now 22 runs are required in last 2 overs. Then you take a single on first ball to get to your century and celebrated like below, not over the top but still celebrated (your team requires 11 off 21 now).

Other players like Saad, Imad, Umar and Yasir were finding it hard to score fast as it was difficult to get in and hit but you still kept playing at run a ball.

I will let people decide for themselves. For me i wouldn't have celebrated till my team has won the match. Not in second last over for sure.

P.S: This is only about this particular match and this scenario and i am not talking abour Rizwan's overall innings.

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Difficult to get in and hit lol. Sounds ridiculous. Umar , saad and Imad played rash shots. Saad is a debutant but the other two have played 100+ matches and if u still don’t know how to chase a score when the RR is under 7 in this modern era then it means you are simply not good enuf and can go home.

There is no need to get in and build partnerships just run a ball and a couple of odd boundaries would have sealed the game. A 20 ball 25 or 25 ball 30 was all required and if that’s too hard for these experienced players then they are not good enuf to be in the side. All the batsmen walked in couldn’t score even 10 runs after Abid got out. #Miserable
 
ask_analyse_act said:
Difficult to get in and hit lol. Sounds ridiculous. Umar , saad and Imad played rash shots. Saad is a debutant but the other two have played 100+ matches and if u still don’t know how to chase a score when the RR is under 7 in this modern era then it means you are simply not good enuf and can go home.

There is no need to get in and build partnerships just run a ball and a couple of odd boundaries would have sealed the game. A 20 ball 25 or 25 ball 30 was all required and if that’s too hard for these experienced players then they are not good enuf to be in the side. All the batsmen walked in couldn’t score even 10 runs after Abid got out. #Miserable
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In last 9-10 overs: Other players were bad and u can even call them trash, but Rizwan was selfish especially from 43-48.1 over. See the difference?

Btw new players have on a number of occasions took time. Its normal but set players have more responsibility to take their team home.
 
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SarfiBabarHaris said:
I will let people decide for themselves. For me i wouldn't have celebrated till my team has won the match. Not in second last over for sure.
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He hardly celebrated at all, it looked more like a gesture of acknowledgement like raising the bat when he put two hands up. Like acknowledging the clap of the fans. Didn't even show much emotion in his face, didn't even smile. Contrast that to Abid Ali who made a bigger thing of it (I guess we were winning at that point so it's ok). But I've even seen bowlers especially who celebrate like no tomorrow when the game is lost, seems a bit harsh to pick on what Rizwan's doing.

He did stuff wrong, he should have accelerated, but I wouldn't be surprised if management instructed him to just focus on staying in and let others focus on hitting out. It's the general strategy we use, keep wickets in hand, and then hit out at the end. They might be scared if Rizwan gave his wicket away while trying to accelerate, it would trigger a collapse. It's outdated style batting, but we keep doing it. Look at the CT final even, Azhar played the anchor role and was praised for it despite others had to make up the run rate. If the others around him had hit out successfully to close the match instead of failing at low SRs, Rizwan again would have been praised.

I think this outcome if anything shows the dangers of sticking to the setting anchor, leave the others to up the run rate mentality. Everyone has a responsibility for the run rate.
 
It is criminal for a set batsman to not be able to chase 25 runs off 19 balls in this era. He needs to play aggressively.

The only reason I would have him in the squad is because you need at least one back up keeper if your main one is injured.

If sarfraz gets injured, the issue would be that the batting order has to be reshuffled as rizwan cannot bat lower than no . 5
 
For people saying he is selfish, let's remember Pakistan isn't exactly blessed in batting talent. Anyone who scores 2 centuries in a series deserves some credit. But yes, he still isn't a shoo in as he is relatively low in the pecking order, but if he does well tomorrow it will be hard to ignore him
 
iPakistani said:
I swear these people don't deserve players such as Babar and Rizwan. Constantly grilling them for being 'selfish', the only batsman who batted above a strike rate of 100 is selfish. Wallahi our fans are ridiculous and deserve this loss.
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People support individuals more than the team lol.

He clearly can't hit 6s at will. He scored at a strike rate of a 100. What was Haris doing in his innings? Why did Umar Akmal and Imad fail go finish the game off ? These are the questions that need to be asked . But because people have a dislike for Rizwan they will solely blame him for the loss.
 
Khan12 said:
Sarfraz's fans are crying nice to see. You guys need any tissues [MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION], [MENTION=143023]SarfiBabarHaris[/MENTION]. I have plenty for you guys. Calling his innings selfish shows how bitter you guys are.
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They are calling Rizwan selfish whilst their hero gets out after 20 or less usually.

That's some real selfless batting there . :)))
 
Rizwan is the better batsman and keeper available, perhaps he can do a bit of captaincy as well? he can't do no wrong by screaming and shouting at the team members like an ignorant idiot to begin with. I see no reason why he shouldn't play ahead of Sarfraz
 
Absolutely should be in the WC Squad. People on this site acting like they'd rather Rizwan had gone for 0(4) because he didn't get 100 (75).
 
SarfiBabarHaris said:
Those who think Rizwan didnt celebrate, here is a link of highlights of the match from PCB's youtube account. Watch from 16:04 till 16:24 keeping in mind the context of the game: Your team required 49 off 7 and then you played slow to get to your century as the run rate goes up and now 22 runs are required in last 2 overs. Then you take a single on first ball to get to your century and celebrated like below, not over the top but still celebrated (your team requires 11 off 21 now).

Other players like Saad, Imad, Umar and Yasir were finding it hard to score fast as it was difficult to get in and hit but you still kept playing at run a ball.

I will let people decide for themselves. For me i wouldn't have celebrated till my team has won the match. Not in second last over for sure.

P.S: This is only about this particular match and this scenario and i am not talking abour Rizwan's overall innings.

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Getting a 100 was more important - apni century puri kro, WC mai spot pakka kro this is the mentality.
 
WCWinnerPakistan2019 said:
Getting a 100 was more important - apni century puri kro, WC mai spot pakka kro this is the mentality.
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I have seen some weird posts putting majority blame on others saying they just had to play run a ball like Rizwan. Like seriously? Rizzu was the set player and batted at almost run a ball in last overs and you expect others to bat at run a ball too then whats the difference between a set batsman and newcomers? Its obvious new batsmen will watse balls and opposition will try to keep it tight and target new batsmen in last overs. That has happened many times in past but the way Rizzzu played in last 7 overs is an anomaly.
 
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We live in a world where raising your hands to acknowledge the dressing room and the crowd for a few seconds without taking off your helmet and without smiling qualifies as "celebrating your hundred".

Incredible.
 
Mamoon said:
We live in a world where raising your hands to acknowledge the dressing room and the crowd for a few seconds without taking off your helmet and without smiling qualifies as "celebrating your hundred".

Incredible.
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Yep, it was a pretty muted celebration. Wasn't til Imad Wasim hugged him afterwards that he properly raised his bat, but you can tell he knew the job wasn't finished
 
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