Mohammad Rizwan's innings of 76* (57) in the 3rd T20I against England (2021)

[Smbhayi]

Why is Pakistan not playing a hard hitting batsman as an opener? Thats the main problem

Who's that hard hitting batsman?

 

[Bhaijaan]

Who's that hard hitting batsman?

Sharjeel Imam

 

[Ab Fan]

T20s:-

Top 3:-

Babar
Fakhar/Sharjeel (dunno what he is up to)
Rizwan

ODIs:-

Top 3:-

Rizwan
Fakhar
Babar

That's the best bet, however as long as Pakistan don't find good middle order batsman like KL Rahul, Shreyas Iyer and Suryakumar Yadav, the problem won't be solved.

 

[Smbhayi]

T20s:-

Top 3:-

Babar
Fakhar/Sharjeel (dunno what he is up to)
Rizwan

ODIs:-

Top 3:-

Rizwan
Fakhar
Babar

That's the best bet, however as long as Pakistan don't find good middle order batsman like KL Rahul, Shreyas Iyer and Suryakumar Yadav, the problem won't be solved.

Sharjeel have SR of 133 and avg around 22.xx.. Coming back from ban it's even poor I believe.. How he's a hard hitter or better than Rizwan in terms of SR?

 

[Ab Fan]

Sharjeel have SR of 133 and avg around 22.xx.. Coming back from ban it's even poor I believe.. How he's a hard hitter or better than Rizwan in terms of SR?

I didn't said he is better than Rizwan. He maybe better than Rizwan in S/R when it clicks but that is based on the fact that some sensible Pak posters were backing for Sharjeel. I am not sure what he is up to now.

I have followed Fakhar and he is very good in ODIs but he seems to not be able to translate his performance in T20s these days.

Nevertheless, I think one of Fakhar or Sharjeel should open with Babar and Rizwan should come at 3 in T20s. Babar must play all 20 overs so he should open.

 

[Bewal Express]

I agree that there’s is lack of quality in options. But the problem was worsened by team 11.
They could have given Azam another game. He was dropped on just 1 last game (first game there weren’t enough balls). Tad bit harsh this.
-either don’t pick Sarfaraz as MO option or play him. He’s got a decent record in Eng
-Imad should have come ahead or Shadab.
-Mohammad Wasim Jnr can swing

If they were desperate to drop Azam, they could have even seriously considered slotting in Sharjeel somehow (1 down?). He’s not the 2017 level but he’s done well against spin specially legspin

Azam will come back, he has a bit of hitting talent but his shot on Sunday was embarrassing and did his prospects some damage.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Players like Rizwan won't win you matches Against full strength lineups of top teams, as simple as it gets.
But you don't have a better alternative, the template which Pakistan can follow in Wt20 is :
Lay a platform of 60-1 after 8 overs and then fill your middle order with pinch hitters and go gung ho. But that is very risky coz your middle order isn't really dependable.
Also, as Mohd Amir is no more a part of your bowling lineup 160 - 170 runs won't be easy to defend.

 

[MenInG]

Players like Rizwan won't win you matches Against full strength lineups of top teams, as simple as it gets.
But you don't have a better alternative, the template which Pakistan can follow in Wt20 is :
Lay a platform of 60-1 after 8 overs and then fill your middle order with pinch hitters and go gung ho. But that is very risky coz your middle order isn't really dependable.
Also, as Mohd Amir is no more a part of your bowling lineup 160 - 170 runs won't be easy to defend.

Correct - That's why we have "Impact" players like Sohaib, Asif and Azam Khan...

 

[krikit]

A very KL Rahul innings. KL scores so slow that the rest of the batsman get out trying to slog while he remains not out on some 60(50) score and his fans then point out how the rest of the team collapsed and KL was the only batsman to make a score without any consideration to the fact that batting so slow caused the fall of other wickets in the first place.

 

[shamaan]

Sharjeel Imam

Since when did imaam become a hard hitter I hope your being sarcastic

 

[IMMY69]

His innings was indefensible.

Wicket was slow and taking spin and only two players passed 50... others (other then Morgan) couldn't strike at better then 100..

Pakistan batters were getting out at the end like a bunch of brainless amateurs...
No idea on how to assess a wicket and get to a defendable total. Instead getting our running down the pitch or hitting out to boundary riders.

He didn't face many deliveries in the last few overs largely due to the failing of the other batters.

So yeah let's drop him down the order or drop him completely because he's useless.
We cant afford to have batters like him that prevents us being bowled out for around 100..

Also we must ignore pundits who have actually played at a higher level and who rate him very highly, both as batsman and keeper in the T20 format.

Anything else? What have I missed?
Arrrh yes he scores too consistently for our team.

 

[MenInG]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">2 Pakistani cricketers who always take their own pillow on tour - Mohammad Rizwan and Mohammad Hafeez <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://t.co/uR7f1CsvBT">pic.twitter.com/uR7f1CsvBT</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1417853616568872966?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 21, 2021</a></blockquote>
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[Farabi]

Players like Rizwan won't win you matches Against full strength lineups of top teams, as simple as it gets.
But you don't have a better alternative, the template which Pakistan can follow in Wt20 is :
Lay a platform of 60-1 after 8 overs and then fill your middle order with pinch hitters and go gung ho. But that is very risky coz your middle order isn't really dependable.
Also, as Mohd Amir is no more a part of your bowling lineup 160 - 170 runs won't be easy to defend.

Why would Rizwan not? what is the logic. He has averaged 100 this year scoring 1000 runs in t20s. Rizwan has scored runs in test cricket vs NZ, SA and England's tier 1 bowling line ups. This shows he has the technique.
A player who does well against 2nd tier team is more likely to do well against a tier 1 team vs a player who hasn't even done well against tier 2 team.

 

[Saj]

Tough situation for him.

Lost his skipper early, wickets kept on falling around him and the other top 5 batsmen scored a combined 51 runs off 52 balls.

 

[MenInG]

Tough situation for him.

Lost his skipper early, wickets kept on falling around him and the other top 5 batsmen scored a combined 51 runs off 52 balls.

I feel a great handcrafted innings by Rizwan - many others would have become flustered and taken the easy route of some silly shot but he continue playing and did with a good SR also

 

[Ilan Bluestone]

Correct - That's why we have "Impact" players like Sohaib, Asif and Azam Khan...

I agree

Asif Ali is the superstar we just don’t give the chance to. Need more one six then out players.

 

[moghul]

It was a poor knock eventually. He failed to accelerate in the end to help Pakistan post a more competitive total.

By modern standards, if a T20 opener carries the bat he must have hit a century. 76 is well below par.

Agree , if a t20 opener cannot score 15-20 runs/over at the end of the inning , its not a good inning and can lead to team's downfall.

 

[shamaan]

Agree , if a t20 opener cannot score 15-20 runs/over at the end of the inning , its not a good inning and can lead to team's downfall.

How many balls did he face in the end of the Ininings ?

 

[King_Kohli]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">2 Pakistani cricketers who always take their own pillow on tour - Mohammad Rizwan and Mohammad Hafeez <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://t.co/uR7f1CsvBT">pic.twitter.com/uR7f1CsvBT</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1417853616568872966?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 21, 2021</a></blockquote>
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why,any particular reason?

 

[GudduBadmash]

Definitely get on Rizwan and not the players who literally did nothing.

This place never ceases to amaze me.

He's not from one of the bigger cities so the only way people can take the spotlight off one of their failing favourites is to go after Rizwan

 

[Forward Defensive Push]

I'll blame the other batsmen instead of Rizwan. The latter tried his best to push the score on a tricky surface and scored off all possible opportunities. Yes, he could have done better but when you have Mo Ha, Zaman, Babar, Maqsood play like clueless children, Rizwan is the last one you want to point fingers at.

 

[Rana]

why,any particular reason?

In the case of Rizwan, the guy is on another planet most of the times.

In the case of Hafeez, he is blessed in all facets so he needs his beauty sleep.

 

[OMB]

why,any particular reason?

Lucky pillow perhaps.
Shadab is close to to ditch the current pillows then

 

[MenInG]

The real test for Rizwan is to improve no this innings when batting conditions are better.

 

[Jeetlodil]

He is punching above his weight but he is not the dependable player to be in top 4 of a batting line up in any format. Its like Shoab Malik stated playing well so Pakistan played him at 3.

Rizwan needs to bat at 5 or 6

 

[silentkiller187]

That was one of the best t20 knocks played by our batsmen, very mature, the rest of our big hitters, 3d players, impact players, couldn't even get bat on ball, yet he took us to a score on the board at least.

People saying we wont win matches with rizwan at the top against full standard teams are right, he will set the platform nicely and the rest of our brain dead bunch will throw the situation away , like they have countless times before .

Rizwan only player including babar based on current form that can walk into any xi right now including india, yet we have our deluded experts calling for him to be dropped

 

[shamaan]

He is punching above his weight but he is not the dependable player to be in top 4 of a batting line up in any format. Its like Shoab Malik stated playing well so Pakistan played him at 3.

Rizwan needs to bat at 5 or 6

Disagree thiers no use of rizwan batting at 5 or 6 in t20s you might azwell drop him from the team in t20s

 

[mastimasti]

Considering England struggled with the overall total, I'd say Rizwan's innings was excellent. It's crazy this is even up for debate.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Pakistan team cannot get better until their fans get better.

For as long, people of Pakistan keep vouching for mediocrity, this vicious cycle of respectable losses, and unpredictable cornered tigers tag will continue.

Modern day professionalism demands a no excuse killer menality to win at all cost. Team games have changed so much and so has the analysis. Sports analysis of today is far more unforgiving than what it used to be 20 years ago or even 10 years ago.

The ''context'' is so much more meaningful now than it has ever been.

If anyone is judging numbers purely on face value in 2021, god save humanity from these khooh de daddoo.

 

[MesonK]

Pakistan team cannot get better until their fans get better.

For as long, people of Pakistan keep vouching for mediocrity, this vicious cycle of respectable losses, and unpredictable cornered tigers tag will continue.

Modern day professionalism demands a no excuse killer menality to win at all cost. Team games have changed so much and so has the analysis. Sports analysis of today is far more unforgiving than what it used to be 20 years ago or even 10 years ago.

The ''context'' is so much more meaningful now than it has ever been.

If anyone is judging numbers purely on face value in 2021, god save humanity from these khooh de daddoo.

Pakistani fans are usually very stupid and gullible. They believe words of mafia backed journalists more than anything. Sarfraz is a legend in eyes of many with his 22 average in SENA but someone like Rizwan with 43+ average in SENA is questionable to them.

 

[The Scorer]

He's not spectacular so gives the impression is he's not a T20player, but his numbers are surprisingly good. That he's one of the T20 "stars" just shows how poor the rest of the batsmen are. He's a natural support player but is forced to play a more dominant role. Once Pakistan get a couple more explosive players he will play a support role.

 

[OMB]

That was one of the best t20 knocks played by our batsmen, very mature, the rest of our big hitters, 3d players, impact players, couldn't even get bat on ball, yet he took us to a score on the board at least.

People saying we wont win matches with rizwan at the top against full standard teams are right, he will set the platform nicely and the rest of our brain dead bunch will throw the situation away , like they have countless times before .

Rizwan only player including babar based on current form that can walk into any xi right now including india, yet we have our deluded experts calling for him to be dropped

I reserve my doubt about this. No disrespect to Rizwan and thanks for the back-handed complement.

 

[silentkiller187]

I reserve my doubt about this. No disrespect to Rizwan and thanks for the back-handed complement.

if he had indias quality middle order behind him he could easily take risabh pants place.

 

[OMB]

if he had indias quality middle order behind him he could easily take risabh pants place.

Ok we will see about that in a few years time.

 

[IMMY69]

Also he's clearly one of the worst keepers going around in world cricket.

 

[silentkiller187]

Ok we will see about that in a few years time.

unfortunately neither of us have a crystal ball which is why i said based on current form. and right now he could walk into that team.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

I won't take Ben Stokes + Jofra Archer in exchange for Rishab Pant let alone Rizwan lolwut.

 

[MesonK]

I won't take Ben Stokes + Jofra Archer in exchange for Rishab Pant let alone Rizwan lolwut.

I would not take Kohli (averaging 29 for past 2+ years) + Pujara (Discount Azhar Ali) for Rizwan either.

 

[Jmir11]

Pakistani fans are very lucky to have Rizwan in there team.

 

[Jmir11]

Best pakistan have at the moment after Babar

Rizwan keep
Shining haters are going to hate

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

I would not take Kohli (averaging 29 for past 2+ years) + Pujara (Discount Azhar Ali) for Rizwan either.

Even at his worst (in the last tw0 years) Kohli has done better than Rizwan in lois that says a lot about him.

Pujara is done and dusted just like your no impact Ali, don't give two hoots about either of them.
You can take Manish Pandey too, he can easily replace anyone not named babar in your odi team.

 

[Bhaijaan]

I would not take Kohli (averaging 29 for past 2+ years) + Pujara (Discount Azhar Ali) for Rizwan either.

We are so disappointed in losing this magnificent trade opportunity with you.

 

[shamaan]

Even at his worst (in the last tw0 years) Kohli has done better than Rizwan in lois that says a lot about him.

Pujara is done and dusted just like your no impact Ali, don't give two hoots about either of them.
You can take Manish Pandey too, he can easily replace anyone not named babar in your odi team.

What about the other formats ?

 

[MenInG]

Rizwan seems to slow down as he stays on longer - needs to speed up a bit

 

[King_Kohli]

46(36) is pretty average innings.

 

[Ab Fan]

He is an anchor too.

Pakistan have two good anchors- Babar and Rizwan.

But they need some X-factor who drinks coffee and is a good batting wicket bully but struggles on slow wickets.

 

[shamaan]

He is an anchor too.

Pakistan have two good anchors- Babar and Rizwan.

But they need some X-factor who drinks coffee and is a good batting wicket bully but struggles on slow wickets.

An anchor with the most 6s in 2021 so far not bad for an anchor

 

[shamaan]

46(36) is pretty average innings.

Was it stil average innings