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Zahid steps down as NHPC fast bowling coach

Lahore, 24 February 2021:

Mohammad Zahid has stepped down as the National High Performance Centre’s fast bowling coach due to personal reasons. The 44-year-old had joined the NHPC last September.

The PCB will soon start the process to find Zahid’s successor.

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Perfect time for shoaib akhtar to walk the talk
 
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Not sure what lead to this but guess must have his reasons.
 
I hope Shoaib Akhtar gets the job.

Let's see what he's capable of doing
 
Personal reasons?

He wasn't happy in the role and with a few things going on.

All will be revealed I guess.
 
Personal reasons?

He wasn't happy in the role and with a few things going on.

All will be revealed I guess.

I think there were some visa/residentship issues
I had read it somewhere
 
Whatever Zahid's reasoning is, time to swallow our pride and our so-called fast bowling heritage, and hire a foreign coach.

Very few local coaches know how to identify technical/biomechanical issues. So many of our young faat bowlers don't even know the basics and regress so quickly which reflects poorly on these local coaches.
 
Whatever Zahid's reasoning is, time to swallow our pride and our so-called fast bowling heritage, and hire a foreign coach.

Very few local coaches know how to identify technical/biomechanical issues. So many of our young faat bowlers don't even know the basics and regress so quickly which reflects poorly on these local coaches.

Exactly any english bowling coach is better than our former greats
 
I hope Shoaib Akhtar gets the job.

Let's see what he's capable of doing

Showman Shoaib won't be interested in this behind the scenes kind of role. I believe he's never approached the PCB for any kind of job, but if he does i'm sure it'll be one where he gets to be centre of attention.
 
Steffan jones and Ajmal Shahzad are great options.

Ajmal Shahzad would be a good shout , Pakistani connections, trained by the ECB has experience. Gillespie is too high profile he would be too big even for Pakistan head coach let alone at the NHPC. Maybe try out someone like Umar Gul or send Waqar there and get a proper bowling coach into the national team.
 
I hope Shoaib Akhtar gets the job.

Let's see what he's capable of doing

Please God no. Actor is all talk and his work ethic is zero. He will be detrimental to the development of our youngsters. I suggest we look for an Australian coach who is willing to put the time in with youngsters. They are smart, qualified and frank too. Actor sahib is only good for stupid youtube videos and talking garbage. He doesnt have a cricket brain at all. Wasim and Waqar used to get frustrated at his antics. And Inzi just had enough of his stupidity. Sorry but keep him away he is toxic.
 
Whatever Zahid's reasoning is, time to swallow our pride and our so-called fast bowling heritage, and hire a foreign coach.

Very few local coaches know how to identify technical/biomechanical issues. So many of our young faat bowlers don't even know the basics and regress so quickly which reflects poorly on these local coaches.

Agreed. Time to be open about finding the best candidates who have some ability and track record of nurturing the young fast bowlers which we have quite a few.
 
Please God no. Actor is all talk and his work ethic is zero. He will be detrimental to the development of our youngsters. I suggest we look for an Australian coach who is willing to put the time in with youngsters. They are smart, qualified and frank too. Actor sahib is only good for stupid youtube videos and talking garbage. He doesnt have a cricket brain at all. Wasim and Waqar used to get frustrated at his antics. And Inzi just had enough of his stupidity. Sorry but keep him away he is toxic.

He maybe an actor, but he knows 10 times more about the technicalities of fast bowling as well as the training methods associated with it than Wasim 'flick your wrist' Akram and a failure of a bowling coach like Waqar.
Just a glance at how his bowling action evolved from 1998 to 2006 is an example of this, where he changed from dangerously side-on to semi front on.

He loved showboating but you cant become the fastest bowler ever inspite of crooked knees if you dont have a work ethic.
He, along with Brett lee were the first power athletes cricket ever saw, and their training methods revolutionized the sport.
Shoaib for example hired a javelin coach from the US to improve his arm speed, and run up acceleration.

He has his issues, but he doesn't deserve this disrespect just because he is a loose cannon and was exploited by the media during his playing days.
 
Agreed. Time to be open about finding the best candidates who have some ability and track record of nurturing the young fast bowlers which we have quite a few.

Yep, we need someone who can groom them in terms of disciplined bowling and also about fitness culture.

I don't know of any candidates, but whoever comes in should be experienced with developing youngsters.
 
He maybe an actor, but he knows 10 times more about the technicalities of fast bowling as well as the training methods associated with it than Wasim 'flick your wrist' Akram and a failure of a bowling coach like Waqar.
Just a glance at how his bowling action evolved from 1998 to 2006 is an example of this, where he changed from dangerously side-on to semi front on.

He loved showboating but you cant become the fastest bowler ever inspite of crooked knees if you dont have a work ethic.
He, along with Brett lee were the first power athletes cricket ever saw, and their training methods revolutionized the sport.
Shoaib for example hired a javelin coach from the US to improve his arm speed, and run up acceleration.

He has his issues, but he doesn't deserve this disrespect just because he is a loose cannon and was exploited by the media during his playing days.

he's a loose cannon and cannot be trusted to impart knowledge and discipline to youngsters. His lack of discipline, his off field antics and understanding of the overall requirements of the game will not bode well for any youngster. With Actor its all about him.
 
Its easy to blame the coaches and i am not fan of coaches. Players know what areas they have to improve but generally our players dont have either the facilities, intelligence or the work ethic to do the improvement. So no matter who you appoint, ultimately its the players responsibility to take ownership of their improvement.
 
Its easy to blame the coaches and i am not fan of coaches. Players know what areas they have to improve but generally our players dont have either the facilities, intelligence or the work ethic to do the improvement. So no matter who you appoint, ultimately its the players responsibility to take ownership of their improvement.

I think coach at NHPC becomes really important for even the pacers who are taking the ownership and they want to improve as the coach is the one who is supposed to give them a road map of how to improve on aspects they should and want to improve on. No matter how hard working someone is, putting in the efforts in the wrong direction would be useless and thats where coaches at high performance centres are supposed to come in to guide them.
 
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I would love to see Akhtar but I don’t think he’s interested in the job. It’s too below his stature.
 
Apparently he left for the UK for vacations in December but never returned and is now citing family pressure as the reason for stepping down. Pretty unprofessional and he should have known about the challenges involved in a long distance relationship
 
I would love to see Akhtar but I don’t think he’s interested in the job. It’s too below his stature.

why? because he bowled quick himself? that means nothing as a coach ? he does not have the knowledge as a coach to work with and improve our young crop
 
I would love to see Akhtar but I don’t think he’s interested in the job. It’s too below his stature.
He is the only former player in Pakistan who is aware about the modern methods and technicalities of fast bowling.
However, he doesn't have the temperament or plans to come in as a coach.

When asked why he doesn't coach; he mentioned how even the sight of a cricket ground made his knees hurt, and after his knee replacement surgeries; he doesn't want to put them to the test with field work.
 
Why Ajmal Shahzad? am unaware of his credentials, Akhtar would be fantastic given his experiences and skill set, a damn shame he has never been utilised due to his personality
 
He is the only former player in Pakistan who is aware about the modern methods and technicalities of fast bowling.
However, he doesn't have the temperament or plans to come in as a coach.

When asked why he doesn't coach; he mentioned how even the sight of a cricket ground made his knees hurt, and after his knee replacement surgeries; he doesn't want to put them to the test with field work.

That would make sense because I don’t think he has coached at all since his retirement?
 
why? because he bowled quick himself? that means nothing as a coach ? he does not have the knowledge as a coach to work with and improve our young crop

Why do you think he doesn’t have the knowledge? Shoaib Akhtar and Imran Khan are the only bowlers in the history of Pakistan to make radical, educated changes to their actions or workloads to improve their bowling performances. Shoaib spoke with bowling coaches, javelin throwers, and baseball pitchers all over the world, changed his action from side on to front on, and killed his workload in the pursuit of speed.

He is a loudmouth, and his ego prevents people from realizing how smart he is.
 
Why do you think he doesn’t have the knowledge? Shoaib Akhtar and Imran Khan are the only bowlers in the history of Pakistan to make radical, educated changes to their actions or workloads to improve their bowling performances. Shoaib spoke with bowling coaches, javelin throwers, and baseball pitchers all over the world, changed his action from side on to front on, and killed his workload in the pursuit of speed.

He is a loudmouth, and his ego prevents people from realizing how smart he is.

working with coaches to change his action does not mean he is suddenly qualified to be a bowling coach? what qualification does he have? he has never coached not even a school level side? yet you want him coaching international cricket? why because he makes youtube videos and was a fast bowler years ago ?

we have to move beyond this idea of good bowler = good coach, its very rarely the case
 
working with coaches to change his action does not mean he is suddenly qualified to be a bowling coach? what qualification does he have? he has never coached not even a school level side? yet you want him coaching international cricket? why because he makes youtube videos and was a fast bowler years ago ?

we have to move beyond this idea of good bowler = good coach, its very rarely the case

He won’t be coaching intl cricket, he’ll be coaching at the NHPC.

Secondly, working with coaches to successfully change your action at the international level as a 150kph is more hands on experience than almost any bowling coach in the history of the game.

Thirdly, instead of his youtube videos which are centered towards luring Indian rupees, if you catch him on Game on Hai he gives excellent technical analysis whenever a bowler is being discussed.

Lastly, he’s Pakistani. We don’t really have access to any better alternatives. The next best bowling coach in the country is Aaqib Javed.
 
He won’t be coaching intl cricket, he’ll be coaching at the NHPC.

Secondly, working with coaches to successfully change your action at the international level as a 150kph is more hands on experience than almost any bowling coach in the history of the game.

Thirdly, instead of his youtube videos which are centered towards luring Indian rupees, if you catch him on Game on Hai he gives excellent technical analysis whenever a bowler is being discussed.

Lastly, he’s Pakistani. We don’t really have access to any better alternatives. The next best bowling coach in the country is Aaqib Javed.

being able to remodel action and bowl fast still has no relevance to how good a coach he would/could be... if anything we should hire the coaches that worked with him and leave Akhtar to his view chasing hes a bad personality with no record of such as a coach on any level and should maybe get a coaching role in domestic/ psl or even foreign leagues if he views pak cricket as so below him and if he succeeds then we can think about involving him in the national set up
 
being able to remodel action and bowl fast still has no relevance to how good a coach he would/could be... if anything we should hire the coaches that worked with him and leave Akhtar to his view chasing hes a bad personality with no record of such as a coach on any level and should maybe get a coaching role in domestic/ psl or even foreign leagues if he views pak cricket as so below him and if he succeeds then we can think about involving him in the national set up

Bro he won’t be bowling coach. He’ll be working at the NHPC where the main focus is to work on bowlers’ runups and actions and help them reduce load on back, increase stamina, improve flow through the crease, increase bowling speed, and improve seam position.

Shoaib would be more than capable of this.
 
Bro he won’t be bowling coach. He’ll be working at the NHPC where the main focus is to work on bowlers’ runups and actions and help them reduce load on back, increase stamina, improve flow through the crease, increase bowling speed, and improve seam position.

Shoaib would be more than capable of this.

working at the NHPC as a FAST BOWLING COACH. is arguably the most important bowling coaching role in the country and for me akhtar has no experience in helping another player do any of the things you have listed... he does not possess even a very basic coaching qualification or knowledge and tbh i dont really believe he wants a role within the PCB.... through fear of being found out and losing his ability to stand at a distance and spout nonsense about what needs to be don... he has shown no real interest in coaching and i dont buy this ** about his knees being weak so he cant coach or advise... 'field work' would be needed at the NHPC also and thus hes ruled himself out forever
 
No successor named yet- which could explain why Misbah is coaching Abbas!
 
I think there were some visa/residentship issues
I had read it somewhere

Well he was out there working in Pakistan so he had a visa. I'm sure if it was just a visa issue PCB would have mentioned it.

He wasn't happy in the role, he wasn't happy with things going on and also with some of his colleagues.
 
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Well he was out there working in Pakistan so he had a visa. I'm sure if it was just a visa issue PCB would have mentioned it.

He wasn't happy in the role, he wasn't happy with things going on and also with some of his colleagues.

I won't be too quick to give him the benefit of the doubt. What he has done is unprofessional. Even when you resign you should give some proper notice
 
So the NHPC is still without a Fast bowling coach? Exactly what wirk is being done on fast bowlers now?
 
So the NHPC is still without a Fast bowling coach? Exactly what wirk is being done on fast bowlers now?

The have got Yasir Arafat he is level 2 coach from England but i think he would be more useful as Northern head coach because they are also without a coach.

Maybe Shoaib Akhtar because he knows lot of good training for fast bowlers and i can't find any other guy who knows modern cricket apart from Umar Gul who is in cricket committee but if they wana bring anothers 80s guy thats different story.
 
Media reports say


Former first-class cricketer Omar Rashid is acting as the bowling coach.

A final decision will be taken on the appointment of a bowling coach in the NHPC after Eid.

Former Test cricketers Yasser Arafat, Muhammad Sami, Shahid Nazir and Amir Nazir are strong candidates for the post.
 
We have heard about the academy and coaches for the last 20 years, but i havent seen one iota of success on either the bowling or batting front. Does that prove my theory that these coaches are a total waste of time? As i have said over the years and i will repeat again here, you need talent spotters and then the guys just need facilities and opportunity to play in good weather and on good wickets. Good players will sometimes need help and that should be available but they just need to play. Stop wasting money on rubbish coaches
 
Media reports say


Former first-class cricketer Omar Rashid is acting as the bowling coach.

A final decision will be taken on the appointment of a bowling coach in the NHPC after Eid.

Former Test cricketers Yasser Arafat, Muhammad Sami, Shahid Nazir and Amir Nazir are strong candidates for the post.

I want Yasir Arafat as Northern Coach

Shahid Nazir can be good option because Pakistan bowlers have forgot about swing Shahid Nazir was best exponent of Swing maybe he can transfer some of that to Nasim shah because Nasim shah pace gets diluted due to his height if he learns swing like Shahid Nazir we may see another Dale Steyn.
 
I want Yasir Arafat as Northern Coach

Shahid Nazir can be good option because Pakistan bowlers have forgot about swing Shahid Nazir was best exponent of Swing maybe he can transfer some of that to Nasim shah because Nasim shah pace gets diluted due to his height if he learns swing like Shahid Nazir we may see another Dale Steyn.

Based on that logic, all the current bowlers in Pakistan XI should be bowling banana reverse swing Yorkers because Waqar is the coach?

Just because someone was good at a particular skill doesn't mean that they can be good teachers
 
Mohd Sami?

Lol, you have to be kidding me. Someone who could not help himself in his career, how can he help someone else?

Pay an international candidate who is interested top dollar but get the best candidate for the job
 
Zahid still silent on why he left the role.

Asked him a few times to speak up about what happened - but silence so far.
 
Based on that logic, all the current bowlers in Pakistan XI should be bowling banana reverse swing Yorkers because Waqar is the coach?

Just because someone was good at a particular skill doesn't mean that they can be good teachers

Most of people say that was because of ball tampering
 
Most of people say that was because of ball tampering

No there is only one poster who is repeatedly shown to have ridiculous insights especially when saying waqar’s success was due to ball tampering especially in England in 1992. The irony of course is lost on him that in cricket ball tampering was widespread throughout the 1980’s and with the dukes ball in cloudy conditions yet nobody was able to reproduce reverse swing like Waqar. Reverse swing was around since the 1970’s and many bowlers had access to knowledge from other overseas bowlers yet it was used effectively until Waqar came along.

But that only reinforces the point that great players don’t always make great coaches. Often the cultural fit has to be important also. Just think of Greg Chappell in India and how bad that went.

I guess at the nhpc you would need somebody with exemplary technical knowledge as well as a steady international record who also can communicate with local players. Let’s see what happens
 
The have got Yasir Arafat he is level 2 coach from England but i think he would be more useful as Northern head coach because they are also without a coach.

Maybe Shoaib Akhtar because he knows lot of good training for fast bowlers and i can't find any other guy who knows modern cricket apart from Umar Gul who is in cricket committee but if they wana bring anothers 80s guy thats different story.

Northern’s current coach Mohammad Masroor is actually a pretty decent one with a good CV of working with U16, U19 and emerging Pak teams and younger players. Remained fielding coach for KK for 3 years and also coached Sindh’s U19 teams to one day and three day titles as well in the new domestic structure. He was assistant coach to Mohammad Wasim at Northern and for last season naturally got promoted as interim head coach. So I personally wont mind if Masroor is carried on and gets his well deserved promotion and opportunity to create impact at this level.

That being said, Yasir Arafat would definitely be a good addition to the cricketing setup in one way or another. He has tons of experience of playing around the world and had 790 FC wickets with overall impressive stats. So with that sort of exposure, awareness of the modern game and good understanding of basics of bowling, he can definitely add a lot of value.
 
Yasir Arafat has applied for a few PCB roles in the past and despite having the qualifications required he didn't even get to the interview stage.

I'm not sure he has even applied for the role as he was pretty annoyed in the past at not even getting a response from PCB.
 
Yasir Arafat has applied for a few PCB roles in the past and despite having the qualifications required he didn't even get to the interview stage.

I'm not sure he has even applied for the role as he was pretty annoyed in the past at not even getting a response from PCB.

Asked Yasir.

He's not even applied for the role, so how can some reports say that he's on the shortlist :)
 
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