Mohsin Hasan Khan - a great coach

[jazbati]

I can already see knives coming out even before people reading the post but I will just say it. Mohsin Khan is what is needed as a coach. If you hear the man speak, he oozes patriotism and he speaks logic most of the time. 'Play for Pakistan, Don't play with Pakistan' is what he usually says and spot on.

The job of a coach is to just conduct practice sessions and make strategies according to his playing experience. But in some of our cases, the coach will be in selection committee meeting, or he will still have his playing shirt on clashing egos with current senior players, or coming to media and criticizing current members of the squad.

What Mohsin Khan did was what is exactly needed from a coach during his tenure. You can't teach your batsmen how to play extra cover drive or cut shot after the players have made it into international circuit. All they need is a well respected senior figure who has played decent level of cricket to build their confidence and guide them. You don't see other coaches like Kirsten or Kumble or Flower in the media too often. I have a huge respect for Mohsin Khan simply because he is quite calm and talks a lot of sense.

Take a back seat and let the boys do the work.

 

[waleed88]

I can already see knives coming out even before people reading the post but I will just say it. Mohsin Khan is what is needed as a coach. If you hear the man speak, he oozes patriotism and he speaks logic most of the time. 'Play for Pakistan, Don't play with Pakistan' is what he usually says and spot on.

The job of a coach is to just conduct practice sessions and make strategies according to his playing experience. But in some of our cases, the coach will be in selection committee meeting, or he will still have his playing shirt on clashing egos with current senior players, or coming to media and criticizing current members of the squad.

What Mohsin Khan did was what is exactly needed from a coach during his tenure. You can't teach your batsmen how to play extra cover drive or cut shot after the players have made it into international circuit. All they need is a well respected senior figure who has played decent level of cricket to build their confidence and guide them. You don't see other coaches like Kirsten or Kumble or Flower in the media too often. I have a huge respect for Mohsin Khan simply because he is quite calm and talks a lot of sense.

Take a back seat and let the boys do the work.

Mohsin Khan was at the back seat as a puppet coach with no authority whatsoever, did you know Intikhab Alam's coaching won us both World Cups in our cricketing history, but both captains were appreciated for the effort and not the coach... the whitewash which MHK boasts vs England in UAE 2012 about was won by Abdur Rehman and Saeed Ajmal... MHK barely had a role except giving motivational speeches

 

[Arfan Shafiq]

Spot on [MENTION=90324]jazbati[/MENTION], but would he be interested in the job? I've never heard him commentating about it. I miss the way he was sitting back and drinking tea during his short tenure as coach. Wish he comes back super soon.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

No method to coaching or track record.

 

[jazbati]

Motivational speech is what is needed from a coach. Much better than getting himself into a controversy or not including a player according to his likes ad dislikes.
[MENTION=120691]Arfan Shafiq[/MENTION] Not sure if he is still interested in the job but saw his recent interview on Geo Super where he spoke highly of the players and it was very refreshing to see someone talk with so much professionalism and patriotism. No agenda whatsoever and all for Pakistan's betterment.

 

[jazbati]

Mohsin Khan was at the back seat as a puppet coach with no authority whatsoever, did you know Intikhab Alam's coaching won us both World Cups in our cricketing history, but both captains were appreciated for the effort and not the coach... the whitewash which MHK boasts vs England in UAE 2012 about was won by Abdur Rehman and Saeed Ajmal... MHK barely had a role except giving motivational speeches

If we go by that logic then West Indies series was won by Yasir Shah as well as when Aus toured UAE.

 

[Syed1]

Coaching is not about "Take a back seat and lets the boys do the work". It is about strategy development, analyzing match conditions and opposition tactics and how to best counter them. Chilling in the pavilion drinking "tea" is not what a coach does.


Sorry but this is an atrocious thread.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Coaching is not about "Take a back seat and lets the boys do the work". It is about strategy development, analyzing match conditions and opposition tactics and how to best counter them. Chilling in the pavilion drinking "tea" is not what a coach does.


Sorry but this is an atrocious thread.

OP has no idea what is criteria for a head coach of an international cricket team.

 

[jazbati]

Coaching is not about "Take a back seat and lets the boys do the work". It is about strategy development, analyzing match conditions and opposition tactics and how to best counter them. Chilling in the pavilion drinking "tea" is not what a coach does.


Sorry but this is an atrocious thread.

And who said he was not involved in making strategies? Plus what is a role of a captain then? The guy did well as an interim coach but sadly doesn't get enough credit for it.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

And who said he was not involved in making strategies? Plus what is a role of a captain then? The guy did well as an interim coach but sadly doesn't get enough credit for it.

Captain carries out strategy outlined by Coach.

Coach outlines overall roadmap of the team.

Mohsin Khan can't even spell properly how do you expect him to do any of the basics?

 

[Syed1]

And who said he was not involved in making strategies? Plus what is a role of a captain then? The guy did well as an interim coach but sadly doesn't get enough credit for it.

What did he do good? All he did was beat England 3-0 in tests. Reality check, we have done that after his departure too. He lost to England in the ODIs in the same series 5-0.

 

[waleed88]

If we go by that logic then West Indies series was won by Yasir Shah as well as when Aus toured UAE.

Yes, Waqar doesn't have a big role to play in the victoriies. That's why they are credited to Misbah and not Waqar...

 

[jazbati]

Captain carries out strategy outlined by Coach.

Coach outlines overall roadmap of the team.

Mohsin Khan can't even spell properly how do you expect him to do any of the basics?

Can't even spell but has a double century at Lords. I'll take the latter. Experience guy with good head on his shoulders.

 

[Slog]

As the crowned 'Chai Master,' he was known to make great chai and would only give it to others at the end of a great session.

That is what motivated the boys to do so well. Brilliant man management

 

[Amir]

You don't see other coaches like Kirsten or Kumble or Flower in the media too often. I have a huge respect for Mohsin Khan simply because he is quite calm and talks a lot of sense.

lol. Pretty much contradict yourself here. You say other coaches not in media. Mohsin Khan is not coach and is always in media.

Also if he wants to be a motivational tool for the team he is more than allowed too. Nothing wrong with giving encouragement to the young....oh...wait....he wants money for that? And a title? Ohhh, ok, yeah, then, I guess we will have to look at the budget.

All these guys about serving Pakistan...well...until they are served first.

 

[jazbati]

As the crowned 'Chai Master,' he was known to make great chai and would only give it to others at the end of a great session.

That is what motivated the boys to do so well. Brilliant man management

Will take that. Did he come on the media criticizing current squad members? Did he demotivate any player? If you ask any player about his very brief coaching career, they all speak highly about he instilled confidence in the players and motivated them to do well.

But to be honest, I don't expect much from some of the PPers here who always put Hafeez at Number 6 and Umar Akmal as an opener whenever they make their playing XI

 

[jazbati]

lol. Pretty much contradict yourself here. You say other coaches not in media. Mohsin Khan is not coach and is always in media.

Also if he wants to be a motivational tool for the team he is more than allowed too. Nothing wrong with giving encouragement to the young....oh...wait....he wants money for that? And a title? Ohhh, ok, yeah, then, I guess we will have to look at the budget.

All these guys about serving Pakistan...well...until they are served first.

Not in the media 'during' his coaching tenure. Don't see him much on the TV even when he's not coaching.

 

[sshakir411]

Mohsin bhai still trying to convince anyone to get the gig

 

[marlonbrowndo]

God no

 

[Arham_PakFan]

No please.I respect him for his cricketing and coaching achievements but he talks way too much.And he wasn't as good a coach as you make him out to be.

 

[Arham_PakFan]

Not in the media 'during' his coaching tenure. Don't see him much on the TV even when he's not coaching.

Maybe you don't watch television that much,then?He's giving expert advice for every damn series,on different channels.

 

[jazbati]

No please.I respect him for his cricketing and coaching achievements but he talks way too much.And he wasn't as good a coach as you make him out to be.

He was only an interim coach for few series. Too early to judge him. Anyways I never said in any of my post that he should be coaching Pakistan. He just gets too much criticism for nothing. But unfortunately, we as a nation would always hail people as heroes who have been tainted or just leave their coaching job due to some unknown medical reason. MHK did well during his short tenure.

 

[Mamoon]

No need of attacking the OP. He is entitled to his opinion, and he has explained his position which should be respected. However, I beg to differ.

He was a dummy coach who was at the right place at the right time like Intikhab in 1992-2009. He doesn't have any credentials as coach and any tactics. The type of man who will take credit for the wins but shift the blame on others when things go south. He kept reminding everyone for years that he whitewashed England, but never said a word about the 4-0 humiliation in the ODIs.

That is what happens when you appoint people like Mohsin and Waqar who have no coaching credentials and qualifications - they ride on the good performances of the team which have little to do with them, and fall out with a few players when the team starts losing. We need to be patient with Arthur - under the current circumstances, we are very lucky to have a renowned, qualified coach like him. PCB has a bad reputation and foreigners are not keen to come to Pakistan due to security reasons, Arthur is as good as it gets.

If Pakistan get rid of him, it won't be long before he gets hired by one of the top teams or some franchise in the IPL. People like Mohsin and Waqar are not even good enough to land jobs in the PSL. Qualified coaches are the only way forward for the team, but at the end of the day, it all depends on the players that are coming through the system. We cannot draw parallels between Kumble and our coaches because the former has the luxury of working with Indian players. Similarly, Andy Flower coached a team that has the most advanced and professional setup in the game.

 

[Savak]

No need of attacking the OP. He is entitled to his opinion, and he has explained his position which should be respected. However, I beg to differ.

He was a dummy coach who was at the right place at the right time like Intikhab in 1992-2009. He doesn't have any credentials as coach and any tactics. The type of man who will take credit for the wins but shift the blame on others when things go south. He kept reminding everyone for years that he whitewashed England, but never said a word about the 4-0 humiliation in the ODIs.

That is what happens when you appoint people like Mohsin and Waqar who have no coaching credentials and qualifications - they ride on the good performances of the team which have little to do with them, and fall out with a few players when the team starts losing. We need to be patient with Arthur - under the current circumstances, we are very lucky to have a renowned, qualified coach like him. PCB has a bad reputation and foreigners are not keen to come to Pakistan due to security reasons, Arthur is as good as it gets.

If Pakistan get rid of him, it won't be long before he gets hired by one of the top teams or some franchise in the IPL. People like Mohsin and Waqar are not even good enough to land jobs in the PSL. Qualified coaches are the only way forward for the team, but at the end of the day, it all depends on the players that are coming through the system. We cannot draw parallels between Kumble and our coaches because the former has the luxury of working with Indian players. Similarly, Andy Flower coached a team that has the most advanced and professional setup in the game.

To be fair Mohsin had every right to feel aggrieved and felt hard done by. He had an impressive record prior to being axed and lets not forget by the time the English test series was over, the PCB had already made up its mind to hire Whatmore and the PCB was lobbying with the players to support their position which Mohsin did not like and Mohsin attributed the confusion, turmoil between the test and odi series-T-20 series as playing a role in undermining him in front of the team due to which players were no longer wary of him because they knew he was gone after that series.

He was even livid with Ramiz Raja for lobbying extremely hard for Whatmore and felt that Raja was more motivated by his commission then what was the best decision for the team. As it is Whatmore proved to be a total dud and failure as a coach and Mohsin ended up with a far superior record than him.

If someone like Waqar can cite his record and lobby for coaching roles in the PCB based on that, then Mohsin has every right as well, he has a far superior record compared to Waqar as coach, Mohsin never lost a series to Bangladesh.

 

[Mamoon]

To be fair Mohsin had every right to feel aggrieved and felt hard done by. He had an impressive record prior to being axed and lets not forget by the time the English test series was over, the PCB had already made up its mind to hire Whatmore and the PCB was lobbying with the players to support their position which Mohsin did not like and Mohsin attributed the confusion, turmoil between the test and odi series-T-20 series as playing a role in undermining him in front of the team due to which players were no longer wary of him because they knew he was gone after that series.

He was even livid with Ramiz Raja for lobbying extremely hard for Whatmore and felt that Raja was more motivated by his commission then what was the best decision for the team. As it is Whatmore proved to be a total dud and failure as a coach and Mohsin ended up with a far superior record than him.

If someone like Waqar can cite his record and lobby for coaching roles in the PCB based on that, then Mohsin has every right as well, he has a far superior record compared to Waqar as coach, Mohsin never lost a series to Bangladesh.

His grievances are understandable because although he was appointed as an interim coach, he was expecting to get a permanent role after the success against England. However, the PCB made the right call by understanding that he had nothing much to do with the 3-0 win. There is no doubt that Whatmore failed in his role, but he also had some tough assignments. Mohsin did not have to tour countries like SA, India etc.

 

[Mo Dipsy]

Great coach? No

But friendly adoring uncle who spoils you and motivates you to become the best you can be? YES

 

[Markhor]

Mohsin never seemed to have understood he was simply an INTERIM coach before the PCB appointed a professional who actually has some coaching qualifications and wasn't only a tea sipping cheerleader.

 

[IMMY69]

I don't know why but I see a correlation between appointments such as Mohsin Khan and the continuous selection of players such as Umar Akmal.

We really need to move on from this and appoint coaches and select players based on credential and merit. If that means Mohsin not getting the role of Head Coach then so be it.

 

[Slog]

If Pakistan get rid of him, it won't be long before he gets hired by one of the top teams or some franchise in the IPL. .

Why wasnt he doing it before being signed by Pakistan.

All I saw him was getting deals in Bangladesh league and a newly set up PSL

 

[MenInG]

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[Cricket Warrior]

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[BunnyRabbit]

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He left the coaching job because he was the interim head coach and PCB had signed Dav Whatmore.
He was a decent selector but he wasn't really a coach or served for enough time to be judged as a coach. Misbah was the one who was the brains behind the test series victory vs SL, Ban and Eng and ODI and t20i series loss against England. It was Misbah's team and he led the team similarly when Waqar Younis (another guy who wasn't really a coach in terms of making strategies or team combination) was in charge.
Whatmore wasn't much of a revolutionary either but you could see him pressing Misbah for selection of extra seamer against SL (Bilawal Bhatti) in UAE, pushing Taufiq Umer to start playing with more postive approach (wasn't much successful), pushing for Umar Akmal to play as a wicketkeeper bat, convincing Hafeez to give up opening at start batting at 3 etc