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Moin Khan's son Azam Khan is a talented player after all

if players keep on getting selected irrespective of fat they may be then don't expect fitness and fielding standards to improve any time soon. he shouldn't have been selected and told to lose half his body weight before he's even considered. no compromise on fitness, doesn't matter whose son it is
 
Good to see the kid doing well.

However, if he is serious about his cricket, then he will have to lose weight.

If not, then who are we to stop him?
 
Interesting. He was deemed overage (older than the cutoff date) at the U19 Asia cup almost a year ago. So im not sure how he is eligible for this U19 cup a year after the incident...

Seems talented nonetheless.
 
No this is a different Azam Khan, this lad that scored 95 is from Peshawar.

I seen the match, and it wasn’t Moins son
 
Alot of people call it nepotism but if you realize espeically if you have parents/father in the same field, they are more likely to be successful than some of his competitors, its their competitive advantage that their parents put them through more rigorous training avenues since they know the requirements at the International level and seen their parents do it. Its the same in medical field for us, med studnents whose parents are doctors know so much more, are more dedicated and more goal oriented than some of the others.
 
Bewal Express said:
How is his career going? I havent read anything about him except his propensity to eat fast food.
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Last year there was some news he was picked and then removed from U19 Asia Cup squad on age grounds, not heard much about him after that.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Moin Khan about his son Azam Khan's selection for Quetta Gladiators, the team he is coaching at PSL "he is a talented player & that's why he has been selected" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://t.co/j77yFHEjEx">pic.twitter.com/j77yFHEjEx</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/931612846034694145?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 17, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Moin Khan about his son Azam Khan's selection for Quetta Gladiators, the team he is coaching at PSL "he is a talented player & that's why he has been selected" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://t.co/j77yFHEjEx">pic.twitter.com/j77yFHEjEx</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/931612846034694145?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 17, 2017</a></blockquote>
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It's great that he's a talented player but it's also glaringly obvious that if he wants to be a professional cricketer he needs to lay off the biryani and parathas.
 
Moin should be fired for this.

Fitness aside, Azam didn't deserve a spot over several cricketers and it's not even close.
 
I'm just hoping he gets consistent chances and embrasses himself like no tomorrow which shatters his confidence
 
His fitness is an absolute disgrace. But can't write him off as a player till we have seen him play regularly.
 
I am amazed that no one has asked the lad to get fit. If he is ignoring simple sound advice then that should be the end of his career or at least until he gets into the gym.
 
zn426 said:
It's great that he's a talented player but it's also glaringly obvious that if he wants to be a professional cricketer he needs to lay off the biryani and parathas.
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It's actually improved. He was much worse two years ago when this thread was originally started.
 
The_Odd_One said:
Talented or not, he should not be on the team based on his fitness alone.
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This is actually a very wrong attitude.

Fitness matters, but you need to quantify how much it costs in the field.

I'd much rather have an unfit Inzamam than a perfectly fit Umar Amin or Ahmed Shehzad.

It's like not picking Rangana Herath in a test side because he won't get 18 on a Yo-Yo Test.

It's not soccer and while fitness matters it's not literally indispensable.
 
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Azam actually has a huge opportunity here. He is receiving a lot of media coverage for being unfit. If he can somehow transform himself into getting a six-pack belly, and retain his hitting ability, he will become an instant superstar despite other relatively unknown players being ahead of him in the pecking order.
 
asfandyar said:
Azam actually has a huge opportunity here. He is receiving a lot of media coverage for being unfit. If he can somehow transform himself into getting a six-pack belly, and retain his hitting ability, he will become an instant superstar despite other relatively unknown players being ahead of him in the pecking order.
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Btw no pun intended there.
 
he was over weight in 2014,he is over weight till today clearly suggests that he doesn't take his fitness seriously..
no matter how talented he is, he shouldn't be allowed to play at professional level.
 
Nice shape, almost like Warwick Armstrong - kid should be encouraged from that. However, Warmstrong was like that at his retirement, at 45+ and after 6 years of WW I break, Moin's kid is at the start o career.
 
Can anyone tell about this boy i.e his performance with bat and ball, his age, the tournament he played.
 
It should not be hard to lose weight and get fit when you are getting paid and your professional future depends on it :facepalm:
 
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He maybe talented, but his fitness levels are not acceptable. We need to draw clear boundaries, and any young player who looks like this should not be selected irrespective of how talented they are and how good their domestic stats are.

It sets a terrible precedence, and it is clear that nepotism has played a part here.
 
Mamoon said:
He maybe talented, but his fitness levels are not acceptable. We need to draw clear boundaries, and any young player who looks like this should not be selected irrespective of how talented they are and how good their domestic stats are.

It sets a terrible precedence, and it is clear that nepotism has played a part here.
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The precedence was already established when not long ago corrupts of pcb sent a fat, unfit and a failure to England. If one fatty can be selected for national team why not other.
 
asma_cricfan said:
The precedence was already established when not long ago corrupts of pcb sent a fat, unfit and a failure to England. If one fatty can be selected for national team why not other.
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I guess you're speaking about Umar Akmal. He was sent back though, for failing fitness tests.
 
Fitness seems to be the buzz word in Pakistan cricket these days.

I wonder what the likes of Mickey Arthur think of this selection by QG.
 
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Can't wait to watch Azam Khan field in PSL.... It would be such a deserving embarssment for Moin and Azam :) fun times!
 
Just saw YK’s training video AFTER retirement and then we have this dude... :facepalm:
[MENTION=139288]Abdul[/MENTION]
 
CricketAnalyst said:
This is actually a very wrong attitude.

Fitness matters, but you need to quantify how much it costs in the field.

I'd much rather have an unfit Inzamam than a perfectly fit Umar Amin or Ahmed Shehzad.

It's like not picking Rangana Herath in a test side because he won't get 18 on a Yo-Yo Test.

It's not soccer and while fitness matters it's not literally indispensable.
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He looks like Ranatunga not Inzy.
 
This kid reminds me of that Bermuda cricketer who took that diving catch in the 2007 WC.

Do you remember? [MENTION=133760]Abdullah719[/MENTION]
 
Sarfaraz Ahmed claims that Azam has performed very well in domestics and Ramazan competitions. Anyone has any scorecards available to verify this claim?

Sarfaraz comes across as an honest guy, so I doubt he would say things like 'no one will question his selection after they see him batting'.
 
CricketAnalyst said:
Sarfaraz Ahmed claims that Azam has performed very well in domestics and Ramazan competitions. Anyone has any scorecards available to verify this claim?

Sarfaraz comes across as an honest guy, so I doubt he would say things like 'no one will question his selection after they see him batting'.
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Nobody is questioning his talent or anything.

We have a problem with him being grossly over weight. Such people should never be selected no matter how talented they are. They cant field, they are generally non-serious about their fitness and have poor work ethic and they try to rely only on their natural talent without working hard. I wonder if he could last 100 full overs on the field. Doesnt look like it.
 
CricketAnalyst said:
Sarfaraz Ahmed claims that Azam has performed very well in domestics and Ramazan competitions. Anyone has any scorecards available to verify this claim?

Sarfaraz comes across as an honest guy, so I doubt he would say things like 'no one will question his selection after they see him batting'.
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He performed a bit (1-2 matches) in the Ramzan tournament last June.

"Azam Khan looks like a good player but he'll need to take care of his health and eat less biryani and nihari, he is a clean hitter" - Shahid Afridi

But his fitness issues were glaring on the field and between the wickets according to everyone who watched at the time.
 
I think Pakistan really need to have a look at this bloke and blood him into the team when it time for Sarfraz to retire. Guy is a serial striker of a cricket ball and even afridi rates him. The selectors need to look and his skills rather than his fitness which I beleive can be worked upon then again sharjeel wasn't the fitest of blokes either but boy he could smash that cricket ball. He can also be an ideal finisher for pakistan in the future. It a pity he didn't get a chance for quetta in the PSL to show his talent.
 
The guy has had enough time to lose that weight and body fat. Moin Khan being a professional cricketer should have put him on a stringent diet plan, training regime by now unless he has a severe medical condition.
 
Savak said:
The guy has had enough time to lose that weight and body fat. Moin Khan being a professional cricketer should have put him on a stringent diet plan, training regime by now unless he has a severe medical condition.
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I don’t want to get personal about these things but I think his body weight has more to do with genetics than it has do with diet or fitness regime.
 
Angrez Pakistani said:
I don’t want to get personal about these things but I think his body weight has more to do with genetics than it has do with diet or fitness regime.
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No comments to that but that would be strange given that his father is still looking reasonably in better shape compared to his son. But there are examples of extremely obese people losing all the fat, weight in 1-2 years. Heck Tyson Fury the professional boxer can battle depression and come down from 380 lbs to 250 lbs in 8 months with a diet plan and 3-5 hours of daily training, no reason why Azam Khan cannot achieve the same.
 
Savak said:
No comments to that but that would be strange given that his father is still looking reasonably in better shape compared to his son. But there are examples of extremely obese people losing all the fat, weight in 1-2 years. Heck Tyson Fury the professional boxer can battle depression and come down from 380 lbs to 250 lbs in 8 months with a diet plan and 3-5 hours of daily training, no reason why Azam Khan cannot achieve the same.
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I am sure that as a cricketer he is probably playing at least 3 hours a day and that should actually be enough to loose a lot of weight. And no, I’m not talking about Moin Khan when I refer to his genes.
 
Wahid1234 said:
I think Pakistan really need to have a look at this bloke and blood him into the team when it time for Sarfraz to retire. Guy is a serial striker of a cricket ball and even afridi rates him. The selectors need to look and his skills rather than his fitness which I beleive can be worked upon then again sharjeel wasn't the fitest of blokes either but boy he could smash that cricket ball. He can also be an ideal finisher for pakistan in the future. It a pity he didn't get a chance for quetta in the PSL to show his talent.
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You want the guy that won us an ICC 50 Over trophy after 25 years to retire :salute
 
Angrez Pakistani said:
I don’t want to get personal about these things but I think his body weight has more to do with genetics than it has do with diet or fitness regime.
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If its genetics then i feel sorry him. He shouldnt be anywhere near the team with that physique.

Remember Richard Levi from South africa? His weight problems were genetic and he was dropped from the side because he couldnt match up to the fitness standards of Saffers. And as any avid cricket follower would know, he was a much much better striker of the ball than Moin's son.
 
Madplayer said:
If its genetics then i feel sorry him. He shouldnt be anywhere near the team with that physique.

Remember Richard Levi from South africa? His weight problems were genetic and he was dropped from the side because he couldnt match up to the fitness standards of Saffers. And as any avid cricket follower would know, he was a much much better striker of the ball than Moin's son.
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I think that if he is cricket fit, like Mohammad Shahzad, and if he performs well in domestic cricket then I don’t think anyone can stop him from playing for Pakistan.
 
He looks obese and should never be allowed in to a cricket ground.
 
This thread is nearly 2 years old so what has been the improvement in his fitness during this time? Moin neither lacks money nor contacts to get him the best help possible.

What is his progress?
 
He should follow the ketogenic diet.

I wonder if he will play any game in the PSL this time. He is a massive hitter of the cricket ball.
 
Years have passed now, so the kid must have made a firm decision that nihari and biryani is far more important than a chance to represent his country. He will never get into the team looking like that under Mickey's watch and i'm sure he's well aware of this.
 
MenInG said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Moin Khan about his son Azam Khan's selection for Quetta Gladiators, the team he is coaching at PSL "he is a talented player & that's why he has been selected" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://t.co/j77yFHEjEx">pic.twitter.com/j77yFHEjEx</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/931612846034694145?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 17, 2017</a></blockquote>
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What a joke. No disrespect to Azam. We all come in different shapes and sizes. But if you want to be a professional sportsman, you cannot be this fat and skip right to the front of the queue ahead of far more deserving players.

Think of the hard-working Mohammed Abbas's of this world. Working 2 menial jobs just to put food on your family's table, whilst trying desperately to somehow make it in your first passion, professional cricket. You don't have connections, you don't have money. All you have is your own skill. Even if you make it to First Class cricket, your pay will be poor and so many people around you will tell you to give up, that you're wasting your time.

Now think how those poor guys must feel when this giant Azam makes it in the country's premiere domestic tournament through nepotism alone. He's rich and privilged. To add insult to injury, its not even if his selection can be hidden or somehow justified; he's huge and clearly unfit and yet he still gets selected. The system is so corrupt that those at the top don't even try and hide the corruption.

Utterly unbelievable.
 
Angrez Pakistani said:
I am sure that as a cricketer he is probably playing at least 3 hours a day and that should actually be enough to loose a lot of weight. And no, I’m not talking about Moin Khan when I refer to his genes.
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:13: he is step son of Moin Khan?
 
I thought he may have been promoted to the Platinum category this season.
 
It is an absolute disgrace that more deserving and clearly better cricketers have not been picked for the PSL but this lad has.

I don't blame the kid and wish him the best, but some things never change.
 
Imam haq
Imran farhat
Shan masood
Moins fat kid

& wer struggling to chase 145 wonder why
 
Honestly, I wouldn’t mind his selection had he not been obese. The fact that he is, shows that he doesn’t have the dedication and the will to be a top player.
It’s a joke really, all those youngsters who put time in the gym, are being overlooked for a kid who makes inzamam look anorexic.
 
Angrez Pakistani said:
I am sure that as a cricketer he is probably playing at least 3 hours a day and that should actually be enough to loose a lot of weight. And no, I’m not talking about Moin Khan when I refer to his genes.
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Do you have any fitness experience? You can train 7 hours a day and still be fat if you are eating all day long. Genes don't create obesity, that is a myth. Losing weight is simply expending more energy then you are taking in via calories. If this is not working for you then you are a miracle baby and scientists should study you.
 
how can an athlete, who is also the son of a great athlete, be in such bad shape.

Why can't they hire a nutritionist and follow his instructions for 6 months. this is remarkable
 
humzy said:
Do you have any fitness experience? You can train 7 hours a day and still be fat if you are eating all day long. Genes don't create obesity, that is a myth. Losing weight is simply expending more energy then you are taking in via calories. If this is not working for you then you are a miracle baby and scientists should study you.
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I agree with the crux of your post. However, some people do find it harder to lose weight while some find it harder to gain (endomorphs and ectomorphs) so genetics does play a part. Having said that, i completely agree that genetics cannot make you look like Moin's son. He is nowhere close to doing enough when it comes to fitness.
 
Send him to Australia. They are desperate enough to consider playing Qadir’s son....
 
humzy said:
Do you have any fitness experience? You can train 7 hours a day and still be fat if you are eating all day long. Genes don't create obesity, that is a myth. Losing weight is simply expending more energy then you are taking in via calories. If this is not working for you then you are a miracle baby and scientists should study you.
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Waqar on commentary a couple of days ago: "Doesn't matter what you eat as long as you train hard" :|
 
I missed the nuances of the draft. Did This moata get picked again? what a joke..

to lose weight all he nees to do is keep up a decent training regime and eat good and eat less..should be thin in a few months..but he doesnt have the will and I would question his mental health..
 
Didn’t see this thread last year, but it seems like he is a talented player but has clear fitness issues
This thread started in 2014 and Azam has had 4 years to improve his fitness levels, although I don’t know how he looked then, I can’t really say for sure if there has been any improvement.
It’s sad to see him getting selected, yet players like Zeeshan Malik, Saif Badar, Hasan Mohsin and Kamran Ghulam have been overlooked.
He may be talented, but they have talent plus fitness, but unfortunately don’t have the connections it seems
 
The selections in PSL and A team show us why we are not a top team in int'l cricket. Most of the deserving players don't get their chances to showcase their talent at the top level. Guys with contacts and nepotism ruining cricket in Pakistan.
 
the Great Khan said:
I missed the nuances of the draft. Did This moata get picked again? what a joke..

to lose weight all he nees to do is keep up a decent training regime and eat good and eat less..should be thin in a few months..but he doesnt have the will and I would question his mental health..
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Why bother to train hard when you know abu will make sure you get picked.
 
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Why bother to train hard when you know abu will make sure you get picked.
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true. A truly nepotistic appointment. He wont even get a game so whats the point? He could keep Azam with him and the team without making him a player for goodness sake!!
 
Not sure how people can credibly rate PSL as only second to IPL when such blatant acts of nepotism are occurring.

Forget the poor fitness for a moment, what's in his track record that merits a PSL callup ahead of others ? PSL is just jobs for the boys, with development of young talent coincidental.

Everyone just wants to be on the gravy train, which may be an appropriate metaphor in this case.
 
Markhor said:
Not sure how people can credibly rate PSL as only second to IPL when such blatant acts of nepotism are occurring.

Forget the poor fitness for a moment, what's in his track record that merits a PSL callup ahead of others ? PSL is just jobs for the boys, with development of young talent coincidental.

Everyone just wants to be on the gravy train, which may be an appropriate metaphor in this case.
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Have you seen him bat ? the guy can not only tonk them into the stands but can rotate the strike at will as well which none of our up coming players are able do and he is not a bad wicket keeper also, just that if he can sort out his fitness and loose some kilos, he can a very good wicket keeping batsman for Pakistan.
 
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