Moral Decline of Modern Western Civilisation?

[Heisenberg111]

So then you would say you are not equal. I know you don’t care as you are comfortable . But in reality you are 2nd or 3rd class citizen.

I ain't a citizen bro, I am on a Iqamah (work permit). I am here to make money and live a good life, which I am doing, Alhamdulillah

 

[SalimBhai]

I ain't a citizen bro, I am on a Iqamah (work permit). I am here to make money and live a good life, which I am doing, Alhamdulillah

I am glad u are happy

 

[JaDed]

You are comparing an application to the acceptance of an offer. Anyone, from any country can apply, being offered a role is a totally different ball game.

Moving to any country depends on risk appetite. If you are single and offered a job in the ME, it is easier to move than compared with someone who is married, than compared with someone who has children.

Yes, I don’t have children but my assumption is he doesn’t either, as I said before (maybe to some other poster) it’s because of Indian IT I had “onsite” for KSA and Canada, but I did wait it out for States took an year extra but was worth it and at that time I had seen the diff in applications.

Also he has shown continuous interest in moving to gulf, esp KSA so I think he has the it in him to move but he has to try.

 

[JaDed]

It’s weird sometimes when I hear South Asian origin citizens from Western Nations complaining about moving to other countries, there is a very good ease of process to move to any place they want unlike being citizens of South Asia or Africa(except couple).

Only issue as said by the poster above is family/ kids social circle age.

 

[Technics 1210]

It’s weird sometimes when I hear South Asian origin citizens from Western Nations complaining about moving to other countries, there is a very good ease of process to move to any place they want unlike being citizens of South Asia or Africa(except couple).

Only issue as said by the poster above is family/ kids social circle age.

The fact is you were never offered a job in the ME, kids or no kids, and have based your opinion on assumptions. I get it this is an opportunity for you to attack Islam, but at least make it sound believable.

Truth is its nothing comes close to the weirdness of Indian citizens, who like the West, boast about their country being the best, only desperate to flee India.

And no one was complaining about moving to another nation, but rather refering to the logistics.

 

[JaDed]

The fact is you were never offered a job in the ME, kids or no kids, and have based your opinion on assumptions. I get it this is an opportunity for you to attack Islam, but at least make it sound believable.

Truth is its nothing comes close to the weirdness of Indian citizens, who like the West, boast about their country being the best, only desperate to flee India.

And no one was complaining about moving to another nation, but rather refering to the logistics.

Which assumption? lol stop being paranoid You think there is no Indian IT in KSA? Do you think they don’t have projects for onsite?

Which proof are you specifically looking for? And where have I boasted about India being the best? Infact no one on this thread has, stop being delusional. It’s only British Pakistanis that keep claiming ME is the best

I have already said I wanted to move to States, which part is confusing to you here?

 

[Technics 1210]

Which assumption? lol stop being paranoid You think there is no Indian IT in KSA? Do you think they don’t have projects for onsite?

I suggest you read my post carefully. Where did I say no Indian IT exists in KSA? I am just pointing out a crucial difference in the fallacy you promote.

Application vs Acceptance. You know I am right, you were never offered a job in the ME so stop pretending its dead easy!

 

[JaDed]

I suggest you read my post carefully. Where did I say no Indian IT exists in KSA? I am just pointing out a crucial difference in the fallacy you promote.

Application vs Acceptance. You know I am right, you were never offered a job in the ME so stop pretending its dead easy!

Acceptance for me is from IT project , clearly you don’t know how Indian IT projects work within companies, so we can leave it at that..but yeah it’s always the same route on argument with you.

 

[Robert]

There is no open intimate sexual actions between two men or two women in public in those nations. But whatever floats your boat.

Many more examples but you can figure those out by your little self.

There is none such in the UK. Such a couple would be arrested for indecency, just as a straight couple being intimate in public would.

 

[Robert]

Yes western civilization was built on christian fundamentals. But all societies evolve. At one point it was built of greek mythology also. Right. But they moved on. Since we have less christianity in our daily life.
We have more
women's rights, minority rights, religious freedoms, diversity and lets not forget the advances in science. Christians believe the world is 5000 years old

Only the dumb ones.

 

[Technics 1210]

Acceptance for me is from IT project , clearly you don’t know how Indian IT projects work within companies, so we can leave it at that..but yeah it’s always the same route on argument with you.

On the contrary its the same with you. You see liberal, you see Pakistanis, and you see an opportunity to diss Islam.

By the way I know how IT projects work within Indian companies - the first task as an employer abroad, is to identify the candidates with fraudulent certifications which requires a technical interview beyond memorization of a book.

 

[Robert]

Millions of children live without their father.

According to one expert 1 in 50 dont know who their real biological father is! I also assume thousands are living with a man who they believe is their dad but isnt. This was never so bad 40 years ago in the UK. A great recipe for family structure crashing.

I don’t see that. As long as the father figure is kind and supportive it’s all good, and certainly better than a violent / drunk / wastrel biological father. There are plenty of examples of successful modern families with step-parents and blended children.

 

[Robert]

https://www.elsevier.com/connect/no...iolence-against-women-despite-gender-equality

This is the level of violence towards women in so called "gender equal" Nordic countries. Same with rape rates too.

That could be due to higher reporting rates though. If the Scandis do have gender equality, then a rape victim is more likely come forward to the police in the expectation that she will be believed.

 

[Shariq7]

I think it's time we sent the Pakistani army to the west to teach them morality. How dare anyone has different values than ours?

 

[Technics 1210]

There are more examples of children resorting to crime where there is an absence of a father.

In fact, in Amreeka, the absence of a father figure was the number one reason why black children get involved in gang culture and crime hence blacks commiting crime disproportionately to Amreekan demographics.

This is the result of a decline in religious values thus family values, and the false notion that men and women do not have separate responsibilities as perpetrated by Liberalism. Plus we are all aware of the fact that Liberalism sees no genetic or physical difference between a male and female anyway. Freedom all round!

No religion = No morals.

 

[sweep_shot]

That could be due to higher reporting rates though. If the Scandis do have gender equality, then a rape victim is more likely come forward to the police in the expectation that she will be believed.

"Could be". So, not a fact.

 

[sweep_shot]

There are more examples of children resorting to crime where there is an absence of a father.

In fact, in Amreeka, the absence of a father figure was the number one reason why black children get involved in gang culture and crime hence blacks commiting crime disproportionately to Amreekan demographics.

This is the result of a decline in religious values thus family values, and the false notion that men and women do not have separate responsibilities as perpetrated by Liberalism. Plus we are all aware of the fact that Liberalism sees no genetic or physical difference between a male and female anyway. Freedom all round!

No religion = No morals.

Indeed.

Removal of religion results in chaos.

Atheism is rising in West and this is why morality is declining.

 

[Champ_Pal]

There are more examples of children resorting to crime where there is an absence of a father.

In fact, in Amreeka, the absence of a father figure was the number one reason why black children get involved in gang culture and crime hence blacks commiting crime disproportionately to Amreekan demographics.

This is the result of a decline in religious values thus family values, and the false notion that men and women do not have separate responsibilities as perpetrated by Liberalism. Plus we are all aware of the fact that Liberalism sees no genetic or physical difference between a male and female anyway. Freedom all round!

No religion = No morals.

Fatherless families are mostly in African American society. That is where crime is mostly prevalent. It’s not unique to America. In places like Brazil where Catholics are in majority, crime is pretty high. It’s the law going easy on criminals and not due to absence of God.

Look at Pakistan which is one of the most corrupt countries. But I get are extremely religious.

 

[Gilly]

Indeed.

Removal of religion results in chaos.

Atheism is rising in West and this is why morality is declining.

Flip side is atheism increases the intelligence of a country.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

Flip side is atheism increases the intelligence of a country.

"Intelligence of a country"??

How do you even define that?

 

[saeedhk]

One of the posters here is reminding me of Orya Maqbool, Zaid Hamid and Haqeeqat TV. Very hilarious!

 

[saeedhk]

Here are some state about the status of women in Pakistan :

-highest number of out of school girls
-the lowest female literacy amongst Muslim countries (excluding Afghanistan) with only 4 out of 10 female being able to read
-highest number of honor killings with women regularly killed for wanting to marry a man of choice, for wanting a divorce or for refusing a marriage ( a Pakistani girl in Italy was killed recently because she refused to marry her cousin in Pakistan)
-highest number of acid attacks
-at least 150 children and women are sexually assaulted evert day, again one of the highest in the world
- women are not given a share in inheritance. I know some women who were beaten after they asked for inheritance
- sick and disgusting cultural practices such as Sawera where girls as young as nine as given/gifted to an aggrieved party to settle a dispute
- deadly cultural norms such as karo kari where women are hunted, killed and buried in ditches if they marry someone from outside their clan
- highest rate of domestic violence with at least 15 women killed every day.

Here are some reason over the killing of women in the last few months:

- two sisters killed by brother because they wanted to divorce their abusive husbands
-man kills wife for serving food late
-man kills wife in Quetta for wanting to continue education
-man kills women for leaving house without permission


The above are every day occurrences.

Those who portray Pakistan as some kind if heaven for women have never lived in the country.

 

[Stewie]

This thread is a massive self goal. Thanks for the laughs. What could you expect from the anti vaxx and (quite possibly flat earther) brigade.

Haha!

 

[Robert]

"Could be". So, not a fact.

It’s often a fallacy that greater reporting is an indicator of a greater problem. It can mean that the system is set up in such a way that it is more serious about and more effective in dealing with the problem.

 

[Robert]

Indeed.

Removal of religion results in chaos.

Atheism is rising in West and this is why morality is declining.

There is no equivalence that would can see. The Golden Rule - “do as you would be done by” - is not exclusively a function of religion.

I know many atheists, who are among the most ethical and moral of people that I have ever met.

Conversely I have met many religious people who have betrayed me or ripped me off. They go to church and say the liturgical call-and-response and sing the hymns, but never absorb the lessons. Their religion is all a front.

 

[Robert]

In France a woman can walk beaches naked but on some beaches a woman cannot sit covered up. I started a thread on this last year.

You did, and you will recall that I pointed out that one small-town mayor exceeded his authority in the latter case. It was an illiberal act. The lady should have been allowed to wear her burkini as she was having fun on the beach and not harming anyone by doing so.

 

[RajBan]

There is absolutely no relation between morality and homosexuality. I don't know why some people will think like that inspite of having all the education. I think that is the degeneration.

 

[RajBan]

This thread is a massive self goal. Thanks for the laughs. What could you expect from the anti vaxx and (quite possibly flat earther) brigade.

Haha!

Agree.

 

[Robert]

Fatherless families are mostly in African American society. That is where crime is mostly prevalent. It’s not unique to America. In places like Brazil where Catholics are in majority, crime is pretty high. It’s the law going easy on criminals and not due to absence of God.

Look at Pakistan which is one of the most corrupt countries. But I get are extremely religious.

Let’s tease this out a little.

Firstly, the American justice system is inherently racist and classist. If someone who is rich commits a crime he is less likely to be jailed. Rich people tend to be white people and more likely to get away with crime.

Secondly there is a positive correlation between crime and fatherless families but it is a weak correlation.

Thirdly, a black male is very likely to be treated harshly by the police. We have seen footage of this numerous times. So black men are in fear of their lives when stopped and likely to kick off.

Fourthly - men running out on girls they get pregnant is a story old as the hills. It is more prevalent among black males. You cannot expect people to behave responsibly if they are treated like second-class citizens - literally as farm animals for centuries, then with discrimination law for another century, only in 1968 being allowed to vote, and still discriminated against in service provision and employment. You cannot expect people to behave well if your country treats them badly for generation after generation. Some of them will kick off and be irresponsible.

 

[Technics 1210]

We're already being told that there is no difference between a male and a female, biologically. Now we're being told religion played no role in the rise of the West. Next up, there's no difference between white and black.

Liberal intellectual whitewashing.

This must stop for the sake of humanity, and sanity.

 

[SalimBhai]

"Intelligence of a country"??

How do you even define that?

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-...udy-imperial-college-london-a8183131.html?amp

 

[SalimBhai]

There is absolutely no relation between morality and homosexuality. I don't know why some people will think like that inspite of having all the education. I think that is the degeneration.

There percentage of homosexuals in the world is the same in all regions . It’s just in the west they are in the open and in the east it’s all done behind closed doors due to fear of death.

 

[Stewie]

We're already being told that there is no difference between a male and a female, biologically. Now we're being told religion played no role in the rise of the West. Next up, there's no difference between white and black.

Liberal intellectual whitewashing.

This must stop for the sake of humanity, and sanity.

Wait.. who is telling you there is no difference between males and females biologically? That’s the biggest load of bull I have read on this topic. Perhaps share sources where this is asserted by “them”.

 

[Local.Dada]

We're already being told that there is no difference between a male and a female, biologically. Now we're being told religion played no role in the rise of the West. Next up, there's no difference between white and black.

Liberal intellectual whitewashing.

This must stop for the sake of humanity, and sanity.

What you are being told is not told to everyone else.

 

[SalimBhai]

We're already being told that there is no difference between a male and a female, biologically. Now we're being told religion played no role in the rise of the West. Next up, there's no difference between white and black.

Liberal intellectual whitewashing.

This must stop for the sake of humanity, and sanity.

Who is telling you all this. . Seems for like a meltdown. Who says religion had NO part in the rise of west. …..

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

There percentage of homosexuals in the world is the same in all regions . It’s just in the west they are in the open and in the east it’s all done behind closed doors due to fear of death.

No, the main difference is in the west it is being taught as an equal life choice for children. In reality their own heroes as portrayed in the media are never homosexual males.

 

[Robert]

No, the main difference is in the west it is being taught as an equal life choice for children. In reality their own heroes as portrayed in the media are never homosexual males.

That is not fully true. There are plenty of gay lead characters on UK TV. But the James Bond type is someone who men want to be, and women want to get with, and 90% of people are straight so blockbuster movie heroes are straight.

 

[SalimBhai]

No, the main difference is in the west it is being taught as an equal life choice for children. In reality their own heroes as portrayed in the media are never homosexual males.

I don’t know what the percentage is. But homosexual people is a small percentage of general population , hence smaller representation in the media. Also just like other minorities there were not represented as well. Now you have black heros and so on

 

[saeedhk]

For those denying there is not homosexuality in Pakistan, need to actually stay and visit the country. As the country is so gender segregated and there is zero interaction between the sexes, this gives rise to homosexuality and child sex abuse. There is a documentary on this ‘ Pakistan’s Hidden Shame’ which I encourage everyone to watch.

In fact, I am convinced that there is more homosexuality prevalence in Pakistan than Europe but nobody does it openly and nobody is willing to admit to it.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

That is not fully true. There are plenty of gay lead characters on UK TV. But the James Bond type is someone who men want to be, and women want to get with, and 90% of people are straight so blockbuster movie heroes are straight.

Exactly. That is why James Bond must remain white, unless he becomes a black woman or an Indian male.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Indian male who is gay I should have specified.

 

[James]

For those denying there is not homosexuality in Pakistan, need to actually stay and visit the country. As the country is so gender segregated and there is zero interaction between the sexes, this gives rise to homosexuality and child sex abuse. There is a documentary on this ‘ Pakistan’s Hidden Shame’ which I encourage everyone to watch.

In fact, I am convinced that there is more homosexuality prevalence in Pakistan than Europe but nobody does it openly and nobody is willing to admit to it.

LGBT people figured out ways to navigate society and designate their own private spaces many centuries ago. There are gay communities in every country and there always will be. Of course if there was more acceptance of their existence then they wouldn’t be forced to go to such secretive lengths. It’s only in western countries where you will see open and visible gay communities, but even this is a relatively recent thing in some places.

I am not a member of the LGBT community but I do support them having equivalent rights under the law. I work with / know many LGBT people and their personal lives are none of my concern.

 

[SalimBhai]

Has anyone seen joyland yet?

 

[Robert]

Exactly. That is why James Bond must remain white, unless he becomes a black woman or an Indian male.

I would have been happy for Idris Elba to play Bond as he has the charisma and the physicality, but he’s too old now.

 

[Robert]

LGBT people figured out ways to navigate society and designate their own private spaces many centuries ago. There are gay communities in every country and there always will be. Of course if there was more acceptance of their existence then they wouldn’t be forced to go to such secretive lengths. It’s only in western countries where you will see open and visible gay communities, but even this is a relatively recent thing in some places.

I am not a member of the LGBT community but I do support them having equivalent rights under the law. I work with / know many LGBT people and their personal lives are none of my concern.

Hear hear [MENTION=1842]James[/MENTION].

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

For those denying there is not homosexuality in Pakistan, need to actually stay and visit the country. As the country is so gender segregated and there is zero interaction between the sexes, this gives rise to homosexuality and child sex abuse. There is a documentary on this ‘ Pakistan’s Hidden Shame’ which I encourage everyone to watch.

In fact, I am convinced that there is more homosexuality prevalence in Pakistan than Europe but nobody does it openly and nobody is willing to admit to it.

Just checked the thread title. Surprised to find it wasn't about homosexuality in Pakistan.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I would have been happy for Idris Elba to play Bond as he has the charisma and the physicality, but he’s too old now.

Are there no British Indian male actors who men would want to be and women would want to get with?

 

[gazza619]

Have the morals really dropped or is it that they were always low.

Nothing is hidden these days due to social media.

Morality in some instances can be hard to define.

 

[James]

The custodians of James Bond [Wilson and Broccoli] have clarified on the record that he will never become a woman, but they have not specified what his ethnicity might be in the future.

I don’t see an issue if Bond becomes Black or Asian (etc) to be honest. In the books, Bond is described as having a chiselled look with a dark complexion, and not much beyond that.

 

[Technics 1210]

LGBT people figured out ways to navigate society and designate their own private spaces many centuries ago. There are gay communities in every country and there always will be. Of course if there was more acceptance of their existence then they wouldn’t be forced to go to such secretive lengths. It’s only in western countries where you will see open and visible gay communities, but even this is a relatively recent thing in some places.

I am not a member of the LGBT community but I do support them having equivalent rights under the law. I work with / know many LGBT people and their personal lives are none of my concern.

Most people do not care about people who choose to be homosexual or LGBT - live and let live - though the topic of STDs/HIV etc still poses a health risk to society.

The issue arises when the LGBTQ lifestyle and agenda is shoved down our throats by SJWs and the norm are forced to accept said lifestyles! Western freedom is it? Then the audacity to judge and cancel people on the back of morality?

The West doesn't like Islamic cultures forced upon them so why does the West forced LGBT etc?

This nonsense was bareable when targeting adults, but now children have to endure this rainbow nonsense in school.

Enough is enough!

 

[Robert]

Are there no British Indian male actors who men would want to be and women would want to get with?

Can’t think of any big tough ones. Lots of good character actors though.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Can’t think of any big tough ones. Lots of good character actors though.

Says a lot unintentionally that Rob. So men want to be big and tough, and women only want to get with big tough guys?

 

[sweep_shot]

So men want to be big and tough, and women only want to get with big tough guys?

That's how it should be. This is nature.

Men should behave like men and women should behave like women.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

That's how it should be. This is nature.

Men should behave like men and women should behave like women.

This is what our own films and tv shows are telling us. Now Rob has agreed even if he didn't realise it.

 

[Robert]

Says a lot unintentionally that Rob. So men want to be big and tough, and women only want to get with big tough guys?

Bit of a leap about what men want to be there. I think men like brave characters who would back them up in a fight. Many times, tough guy types have needled me to see if I push back, testing my strength, testing my durability and therefore reliability.

Obviously women are attracted to men who can protect them and the children they might have together. Women like big muscles and physical strength as well as emotional strength. My mother commented later in life that my father’s physical power initially attracted her. Mrs Robert starts purring every time Thor is on telly.

 

[Robert]

That's how it should be. This is nature.

Men should behave like men and women should behave like women.

There’s no should. You can’t shoehorn human behaviour into how you think the world should be. The world is bigger than your thoughts.

Some men are passive and back down from conflict. Some behave with gentleness and are unaggressive. Some women are aggressive, and don’t want children.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Bit of a leap about what men want to be there. I think men like brave characters who would back them up in a fight. Many times, tough guy types have needled me to see if I push back, testing my strength, testing my durability and therefore reliability.

Obviously women are attracted to men who can protect them and the children they might have together. Women like big muscles and physical strength as well as emotional strength. My mother commented later in life that my father’s physical power initially attracted her. Mrs Robert starts purring every time Thor is on telly.

You said men wanted to be James Bond, I was agreeing with you. It's a shame there all the hero type Indians seem to be in Bollywood, but I can still see a day when we might see a slender gay British Indian Bond. We should look to a day when people will be more open minded on what the world wants to see.

 

[Technics 1210]

Aggression doesn't suit women. Women should be nice and gentle.

Men should be naturally authoritative. This is just nature. Trying to change this nature can cause long-term moral decline as we are now seeing in West.

Bruv, you can’t shoehorn human behaviour into how you think the world should be, unless you shoehorn LGBTQ+ human behaviour into how the West believes the world should be.

Arguing against hypocrisy is a futile exercise.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

Bruv, you can’t shoehorn human behaviour into how you think the world should be, unless you shoehorn LGBTQ+ human behaviour into how the West believes the world should be.

Arguing against hypocrisy is a futile exercise.

I don't think it's shoehorning - it's more about general nature and general biological structure of the two genders.

In the entire human history, have you ever seen or heard where a country had an army of all females went out on a war with an army of men of another country? No? Why not?

Just because Hollywood and Bollywood makes these women empowering movies where a female tosses double the size of males like a pieces of toys, does not actually depict the reality. Matter of that's EXACTLY what we can call "Shoehorning human behavior".


Give a crying baby to a father to look after, and he will be pulling his hair in about an hour.
Give the same crying baby to a mother - and she will be cool n calm to take care of the crying baby for the entire night.

Nature has designed it all in such a way that both genders have give n takes - in some cases females have the upper hand, and in some cases, men have the upper hand - but the rights of both genders are equal.

What we often fail to understand is that, "men and women are equal BUT they are not identical."

If there a test of 10 questions with each question having 10 points, and lets say, the man gives a wrong answer to question # 2, and the woman provides a wrong answer of question # 9, at the end both score 90 on the test - and hence both are equal but their performance is not identical. Understand?

 

[SalimBhai]

Who is saying that male and female are identical in the way you are explaining. I think everyone is saying the are equal and should be treated equally. Have equal rights.

 

[Robert]

Give a crying baby to a father to look after, and he will be pulling his hair in about an hour.
Give the same crying baby to a mother - and she will be cool n calm to take care of the crying baby for the entire night.

Of the baby could go right to sleep in the father's arms. Or the baby could keep screaming until the mother is at her wits' end from sleep deprivation and starting to hallucinate, and begging the health visitor for support. I have seen both.

The age of the man being the breadwinner and the woman staying at home to mind the kids is long gone. Many wives have more earning power than their husbands, who stay at home with the kids.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

Who is saying that male and female are identical in the way you are explaining. I think everyone is saying the are equal and should be treated equally. Have equal rights.

we are talking "shoehorning of behaviors" ... take another look.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

Of the baby could go right to sleep in the father's arms. Or the baby could keep screaming until the mother is at her wits' end from sleep deprivation and starting to hallucinate, and begging the health visitor for support. I have seen both.

The age of the man being the breadwinner and the woman staying at home to mind the kids is long gone. Many wives have more earning power than their husbands, who stay at home with the kids.

Gone?
Your statement does have some truth. World population is 7 BILLION +, what portion of this population is this statement true for? Perhaps not even 10%, 20%?

So no, it's not "gone".

 

[SalimBhai]

Gone?
Your statement does have some truth. World population is 7 BILLION +, what portion of this population is this statement true for? Perhaps not even 10%, 20%?

So no, it's not "gone".

In first world countries it’s gone. As nation develop the balance will tilt in favor of what Robert is saying.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Family of boy, 5, 'begged' for a hospital bed as probe launched into pneumonia death

Yusuf Mahmud Nazir died from pneumonia on November 23, ten days after he first complained of a sore throat - his grieving family believe he'd still be alive if he was treated in hospital

A probe has been launched into the tragic death of a five-year-old boy who died from pneumonia after he was allegedly sent home from hospital due to a lack of beds.

Little Yusuf Mahmud Nazir died on November 23 when an infection spread to his lungs and caused multiple organ failure and several cardiac arrests.

His heartbroken family believe he could have lived had he been admitted to hospital when they took him to A&E nine days earlier.

Yusuf’s uncle Zaheer Ahmed claimed he "begged and begged" for his nephew to be admitted to hospital but was repeatedly told there were no beds available.

In light of the tragedy, the chief executive of Rotherham General Hospital - where Yusuf died - has announced an independent investigation.

Ten days before his death, the boy complained of a sore throat and his parents took him to their GP who prescribed antibiotics.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/family-boy-5-begged-hospital-28639677

This is truly heartbreaking. Its not just an issue of hospitals in the UK falling apart but to refuse a child when there are probably many more patients with no danger taking up beds is disgusting!

It makes one wonder if its time to move to a more civilised and efficient nation. Thankfully I dont have small children otherwise this would be a worry.

 

[KingKhanWC]

She wanted a little help — not death.

A paraplegic former Canadian military member is ripping her government, which offered to euthanize her after she complained about delays having a wheelchair lift installed in her home.

Retired Army Corporal Christine Gauthier, who competed for Canada at the 2016 Rio de Janeiro Paralympics, testified in Parliament Thursday that a Veterans Affairs Canada caseworker offered the opportunity for a medically assisted death – and even to provide the equipment, according to the CBC.

“I have a letter saying that if you’re so desperate, madam, we can offer you MAID, medical assistance in dying,” said Gauthier who injured her back during a 1989 a training accident.

https://nypost.com/2022/12/03/canada-offered-to-help-euthanize-christine-gauthier/

Western civilisation has lost the plot, this is as low as it gets.

 

[sweep_shot]

https://nypost.com/2022/12/03/canada-offered-to-help-euthanize-christine-gauthier/

Western civilisation has lost the plot, this is as low as it gets.

You may trigger the confused radical liberals. According to them, they are the center of the universe and only they have the answers. They seem to think modern day west is a utopia.

 

[KingKhanWC]

The Antwerp Zoo has barred a Belgian woman from visiting a male chimp she had been visiting regularly for years because she had developed an unhealthy relationship with him.

Adie Timmermans believes she and Chita, a 38-year-old male chimpanzee, have built a strong bond throughout her regular visits, which have lasted for at least four years. Animal keepers at Antwerp Zoo are concerned that Chita is having trouble fitting in with the rest of his species due to this connection. Chita is not accepted as one of the group's primates because of his strong relationship with Adie.

The zoo recently enforced a contact ban, directing Adie not to come too close to Chita's enclosure and not to make eye contact with the animal in an effort to enhance his bond with his own kind. When she was told about this new policy, she could not imagine life without Chita, whom she loves and who loves her back. She is irritated that dozens of other guests are allowed to interact with Chita. So why not her?

https://original.newsbreak.com/@cee...-because-of-her-strong-bond-with-a-chimpanzee

There are crazies everywhere but only in Europe will a woman complain to the Zoo she;s in love with a Chimp. Poor animinal is being abused, the woman should be sent to a mental home.

 

[Technics 1210]

https://original.newsbreak.com/@cee...-because-of-her-strong-bond-with-a-chimpanzee

There are crazies everywhere but only in Europe will a woman complain to the Zoo she;s in love with a Chimp. Poor animinal is being abused, the woman should be sent to a mental home.

That's because in Europe the majority believe they evolved from a primate.

Funny that, science claims humans evolved from primates, and the believers call it Darwinism, but if someone calls a black person a Monkey, then the same lot call it racism.

Western duplicity in a nutshell.

 

[KingKhanWC]

That's because in Europe the majority believe they evolved from a primate.

Funny that, science claims humans evolved from primates, and the believers call it Darwinism, but if someone calls a black person a Monkey, then the same lot call it racism.

Western duplicity in a nutshell.

Interesting , some may feel a connection to primates because they have been taught they are a product of them. It could be similar to some beliefs in places such as India where a chap married a dog. Marriage should only be between two humans, a man and a woman.

Its not a subject I want to get too much into detail but abuse of animals is so wrong it should be punished hardly. Yet on the contrary there is NO law in the west which stops humans from marrying animals. Certain acts are illegal.

 

[ElRaja]

Funny that, science claims humans evolved from primates, and the believers call it Darwinism, but if someone calls a black person a Monkey, then the same lot call it racism.

Western duplicity in a nutshell.

implying humans as a whole evolved from primates is not the same as implying a person of a certain race is a primate.

that is one of the dumbest comments ive ever read on PP.

 

[KingKhanWC]

implying humans as a whole evolved from primates is not the same as implying a person of a certain race is a primate.

that is one of the dumbest comments ive ever read on PP.

I think his point was if we are told we come from apes/monkey/primates whatever you want to call them, why should such a term be derogratry in any terms, not just to a black person.

Social Darwnism is immoral as any ideoldogy can be.

 

[SalimBhai]

That's because in Europe the majority believe they evolved from a primate.

Funny that, science claims humans evolved from primates, and the believers call it Darwinism, but if someone calls a black person a Monkey, then the same lot call it racism.

Westernthat duplicity in a nutshell.

That is the most juvenile argument you have ever made.

 

[Technics 1210]

I think his point was if we are told we come from apes/monkey/primates whatever you want to call them, why should such a term be derogratry in any terms, not just to a black person.

Social Darwnism is immoral as any ideoldogy can be.

Exactly.

As for Social Darwinism, it is a pillar of Western values, which coincides with the decline of the West.

 

[Champ_Pal]

That's because in Europe the majority believe they evolved from a primate.

Funny that, science claims humans evolved from primates, and the believers call it Darwinism, but if someone calls a black person a Monkey, then the same lot call it racism.

Western duplicity in a nutshell.

That is because Monkeys are less evolved than humans. Calling a human a Monkey means that human is animalistic and barbaric.

 

[KingKhanWC]

That is because Monkeys are less evolved than humans. Calling a human a Monkey means that human is animalistic and barbaric.

If you believe the theory of evolution, which there are many holes.

But on topic, social darwinism is immoral as I wrote. By this logic, Africans are less evolved too.

 

[SalimBhai]

Dude yo can’t help these people. It’s hard to imagine they have jobs and families.

 

[Technics 1210]

If you believe the theory of evolution, which there are many holes.

But on topic, social darwinism is immoral as I wrote. By this logic, Africans are less evolved too.

Social Darwinism has been used to justify imperialism, racism, eugenics and social inequality.

Western governments kill a few million innocent lives in the ME, or turn a blind eye on the genocide of Bosnian Muslims, drop 2 nukes on Japan, steals wealth through the transfer of wealth, applies unwarranted econic sanctions - it is all collateral damage because only the fit survive.

The latest being the Covid vaccine - the stealth killer of the poor, because we all know, no one powerful/rich died from Covid

 

[ElRaja]

I think his point was if we are told we come from apes/monkey/primates whatever you want to call them, why should such a term be derogratry in any terms, not just to a black person.

Social Darwnism is immoral as any ideoldogy can be.

its a false equivalence, implying all humans are descended from primates does not imply the primacy of one human over the other, whereas implying someone is a monkey does, as monkeys are intellectually inferior to humans.

i have no problem with people disagreeing with evolution, and honestly i wouldn't have even written anything, however, disagreeing with evolution does not excuse someone from trying to draw, what in my opinion is, a very wrong false equivalence.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Social Darwinism has been used to justify imperialism, racism, eugenics and social inequality.

Western governments kill a few million innocent lives in the ME, or turn a blind eye on the genocide of Bosnian Muslims, drop 2 nukes on Japan, steals wealth through the transfer of wealth, applies unwarranted econic sanctions - it is all collateral damage because only the fit survive.

The latest being the Covid vaccine - the stealth killer of the poor, because we all know, no one powerful/rich died from Covid

Darwin classified his own white race as more advanced than those “lower organisms” such as pygmies, and he called different people groups “savage,” “low,” and “degraded.”

https://answersingenesis.org/charles-darwin/racism/did-darwin-promote-racism/

The fact Westerners still see him as some sort of great man is one of the reasons their lands are losing morality and why some of these nations continue oppression against others.

its a false equivalence, implying all humans are descended from primates does not imply the primacy of one human over the other, whereas implying someone is a monkey does, as monkeys are intellectually inferior to humans.

i have no problem with people disagreeing with evolution, and honestly i wouldn't have even written anything, however, disagreeing with evolution does not excuse someone from trying to draw, what in my opinion is, a very wrong false equivalence.

Darwin did, see above. Its this western ideology which sees certain humans as lower but if we came from primates shouldnt they be more respected or not seen as a derogatary term?