MQM-P and PSP join hands for 2018 elections (Cancelled)

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The leaders of Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) and Pak Sarzameen Party (PSP) on Wednesday announced an eventual merger between the two political forces and said that they will contest the 2018 general elections under "one name, one symbol and one party platform".

"The modalities of this alliance will be decided in the days to come," said MQM chief Dr Farooq Sattar while addressing the much-awaited joint press conference at Karachi Press Club.

"Today is a momentous occasion," MQM chief Farooq Sattar said as he began speaking.

"Pakistan, the province of Sindh and Karachi have been besieged in many crises. In particular, the parties active in Karachi and Sindh have felt that we not only have to address problems concerning Karachi and Sindh, but also those that concern the wider country," the MQM chief said.

"We should ensure that Karachi never faces the kind of political violence it witnessed in the past.

"We seek a good working relationship and a political alliance with each other, and this is what we wanted to talk to you all about.

"PSP and MQM had been deliberating these points in the recent past. We need good statesmanship at this juncture. To this end, we need a positive and combined effort," Sattar said.

The MQM chief urged that a united Karachi was necessary for Pakistan.

We will present the narrative of our aims and purposes after meeting each other and deciding on key points, he said.

The press conference faced continued delays as reporters and party workers have filled the Karachi Press Club beyond capacity.

Speculation has been rife that the two parties have finally found common ground and will be heading into the general elections next year hand-in-hand with at least a joint manifesto, if not an arrangement that brings them close to a possible merger.

Soon after news broke that the two parties would address the press together, MQM leader Rauf Siddiqui had asked the media not to speculate, assuring reporters that whatever decision the party takes will be communicated.

"Pakistan needs unity right now," he had said.

"Look at how the global situation is changing every moment," Siddiqui said, adding that all parties should "choose their words carefully" and "be on the same page" to enable peace in the country.

"We want to serve the people better," party chief Sattar had said as he arrived later at the party's Bahadurabad office, where he met party leaders for last minute consultations.

He had remained tight-lipped about the press conference scheduled for later that evening.

"We want all political parties to work together on a minimum common agenda. We also called a conference on this earlier. Be it the mayor of Karachi or others, we have always vowed to continue to work together," MQM leader Faisal Subzwari said.

"Farooq Sattar is going nowhere. We are going nowhere. We are here with our people," he clarified when asked about rumours that Sattar will step down as MQM chief.

"As far as I know, MQM Pakistan has called a press conference. We will go there, and you should come too," he told reporters.

"If there is a decision for the city's improvement which encourages unity, I personally think it is good for the country," MQM's Khawaja Izharul Hasan had said.

"Farooq Sattar will give a briefing in the party meeting and we will then make a final decision," he had said.

The MQM had severed ties with its founder, Altaf Hussain, after he referred to Pakistan as “a cancer for the entire world” in a vitriolic speech that sent shock waves throughout the country last year.

The party has since seen many defections to the PSP, with the latest being the city's Deputy Mayor, Arshad Vohra.



Source: https://www.dawn.com/news/1369211/o...rty-mqm-psp-announce-plans-for-2018-elections
 
Abidi or iske draame :))
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ladies n Gentlemen from the Holy land of Karbala, I announce to quit MQMP n resign from NA251 as this is not what I believed in n stood for.</p>— Syed Ali Raza Abidi (@abidifactor) <a href="https://twitter.com/abidifactor/status/928285384341147649?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 8, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Berra gharq hogaya.............Mustafa Kamal..................tum bhi................:facepalm:
 
Berra gharq hogaya.............Mustafa Kamal..................tum bhi................:facepalm:

This is really going hurt PTI in Khi and Urban Sindh. United Muhajir vote is not an issue for PPP but it's going to hurt PTI.
 
This is really going hurt PTI in Khi and Urban Sindh. United Muhajir vote is not an issue for PPP but it's going to hurt PTI.

I saw SMQ sat with Sattar recently, and PSP have said a few pro PTI things, would it be worth PTI doing some kind of deal with them? Could that cause any issues for PTI nationally?
 
I saw SMQ sat with Sattar recently, and PSP have said a few pro PTI things, would it be worth PTI doing some kind of deal with them? Could that cause any issues for PTI nationally?

No issues at national level because Altaf tag is alreayd removed an alliance can help PTI in Sindh but tbh it's really hard to trust Sattar and co they just go for the highest bidder. MQMP+PSP want CMship of Sindh if the alliance of Pagarao's PMLF+MQMP+PSP+PTI+Other sindhi local parties win majority of seats against PPP.
 
This is really going hurt PTI in Khi and Urban Sindh. United Muhajir vote is not an issue for PPP but it's going to hurt PTI.

This literally was the 1st thing that came in my mind that PSP+MQM have become one to preserve the votebank and push PTI in a corner. If Aamir Bhai can campaign properly (on both streets and BOL) only then I'd assume that PTI might have a chance overcome the MQM's reign in Karachi.

Why do my tame and tortured Karachi folk fall in this "United Muhajir" trap again and again and again?
 
This literally was the 1st thing that came in my mind that PSP+MQM have become one to preserve the votebank and push PTI in a corner. If Aamir Bhai can campaign properly (on both streets and BOL) only then I'd assume that PTI might have a chance overcome the MQM's reign in Karachi.

Why do my tame and tortured Karachi folk fall in this "United Muhajir" trap again and again and again?

PTI should contact naraz members of MQM otherwise they are all going to PPP after this merger. Those members include seniors like Khalid Maqbool Siddiqui.
 
How does this effect Altaf Hussain in London?

He is history now and according to reports MQM is going to be banned in Pakistan so MQM Pakistan jumped the ship and will now use another banner maybe PSP or some other new name if Mustafa Kamal agrees
 
Me right now:


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I actually had a sliver of hope from PSP that they will break MQM's monopoly and align themselves with PTI to take Karachi, but is hamam mein sabhi nangay hain
 
Honestly speaking, PTI have no chance in Karachi, and they only have themselves to blame. They have completely neglected Karachi, they have not really voiced much concern for the issues faced by Karachiites, and the party leadership in Karachi seems to be incompetent. It is no surprise that Karachi voters vote MQM year after year, and I honestly don't blame them. The day PTI actually concentrate efforts on Karachi, they will start to win seats there.

What PTI need to do now is to make a deal with this new MQM/PSP alliance. Withdraw the PTI candidates from all seats in Karachi, except the ones PTI won in 2013, and maybe ones where PTI have serious support. Honestly, without Altaf Hussain there, these guys aren't as bad as they used to be, and I see no issues with PTI making a positive alliance with them. I think it's too late for PTI to try and rally support in Karachi, because all that will happen is the votes will get split, and PPP or some religious party will end up taking seats in Karachi.

Making an alliance with MQM/PSP gives PTI a good 25 extra seats towards forming a government. PTI also need to make an alliance with PML (Q) in Punjab. I did a bit of research, and there were 18 seats in Punjab where PML (Q) would win very easily if they made an alliance with PTI on those seats. Also, while researching, I found that there were a good 25 seats across Punjab that PTI only lost marginally, and I would expect them to take most of those seats this time around. So in total, based off the results from the 2013 election + forming alliances, PTI could very well end up with almost 80 seats (excluding women and minorities) this time around, with 45 seats from MQM + PML (Q). If PTI play their cards correctly, and do some strategic campaigning, they will end up with more. South and North Punjab returned A LOT of votes for PTI last time around, PTI need to work on that rather than solely focusing on central Punjab.
 
No issues at national level because Altaf tag is alreayd removed an alliance can help PTI in Sindh but tbh it's really hard to trust Sattar and co they just go for the highest bidder. MQMP+PSP want CMship of Sindh if the alliance of Pagarao's PMLF+MQMP+PSP+PTI+Other sindhi local parties win majority of seats against PPP.

I was looking over 2013 results, and am trying ton construct a prediction on Excel. It was very interesting to note that PML F has a lot of support in Sindh, and lost only very marginally on many seats. There were also A LOT of independents who did really well.

Are parties like PML F trustworthy enough for PTI and MQM to form an alliance with? Because that is actually a very clear path towards ousting PPP from the Sindh government. I actually would not mind if MQM took the CMship of Sindh in coalition with PTI, it would be far better than a PPP government. At least MQM would do some good work for Karachi, which they have numerous times in the past.
 
I actually had a sliver of hope from PSP that they will break MQM's monopoly and align themselves with PTI to take Karachi, but is hamam mein sabhi nangay hain

PTI could still align themselves to this new alliance? MQM don't seem so bad after Altaf got ousted, and things look better with Mustafa Kamal in the mix. PTI don't really stand a chance in Karachi anyway, and an alliance with MQM (+ maybe PML F) is a clear path towards ousting PPP from the Sindh government. And I would honestly take an MQM + PTI coalition in Sindh government over PPP anyday. MQM have done good work for Karachi when they have got the chance, and I think being in government might allow them to properly allocate funds to Karachi.
 
I saw SMQ sat with Sattar recently, and PSP have said a few pro PTI things, would it be worth PTI doing some kind of deal with them? Could that cause any issues for PTI nationally?

Even Sattar has been saying some pro-PTI things. Saw an interview on PAK news, and he was giving full credit of Nawaz's disqualification to IK and PTI, and was generally saying very favourable things towards PTI. He even said something along the lines of 'other corrupt politicians aren't safe as long as Imran Khan is in politics.'
 
I would actually love that if that happens!

Mush era was good for Karachi but we cannot ignore the fact that he abrogated the constitution, signed NRO with Nawaz and Benazir and let the best opportunity of six decades to refine Pakistan slip through his fingers just because of his lust for power.


Mush had his time and he failed, can't keep making the same mistakes and going back to failures like Nawaz and Mush.
 
I hate how they keep referring us as Muhajir muhajir


Konsay muhajir bhai... even my parents were born and raised in Pakistan so how are we muhajir? Muhajir yani temporary resident :danish
 
I hate how they keep referring us as Muhajir muhajir


Konsay muhajir bhai... even my parents were born and raised in Pakistan so how are we muhajir? Muhajir yani temporary resident :danish

tu phir vote kesay hasil karingay ye crooks.yahi aik trika ha logo ko b waqoof banany ka.
 
I was looking over 2013 results, and am trying ton construct a prediction on Excel. It was very interesting to note that PML F has a lot of support in Sindh, and lost only very marginally on many seats. There were also A LOT of independents who did really well.

Are parties like PML F trustworthy enough for PTI and MQM to form an alliance with? Because that is actually a very clear path towards ousting PPP from the Sindh government. I actually would not mind if MQM took the CMship of Sindh in coalition with PTI, it would be far better than a PPP government. At least MQM would do some good work for Karachi, which they have numerous times in the past.

That'r true i also checked there are many MPA seats where PMLF wasn't far behind PPP in Sindh and a strong alliance in next year GE can really hurt PPP in Sindh. PMLF is fine they are not as bad as MQM when it comes to blackmailing the ruling party to get favors. PMLF is strong in Rural Sindh but still MQM win more seats thn PMLF in Sindh because they are popular in Urban Sindh and that's why opposition leader is from MQM in Sindh Assembly.

MMA is back to hurt PTI in KP otherwise the politics of religious parties was getting destroyed by PTI there and now Musharraf is also back with an alliance of many small parties but i am not if he can lead them last time i saw he was looking really old and ill he is 74 years old now.

These new alliances like MMA and PAI will hurt PTI votebank more thn PPP and PMLN.
 
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