MS Dhoni in tears after semi-final loss - Afridi, Shehzad and Younis all smiles after exit

[UpInTheAir]

Also if those three, Afridi, Younis and Shehzad actually did something of use during the world cup there wouldn't have been as much of a reaction. But all three were useless.

 

[PakWC2015]

Was this bump necessary?

Very necessary. People were making our players out as though they were heartless fiends. Whereas many players put on a smiley face while on camera or have their reasons for being able to manage a smile such as knwoing it is the end of an era.

Buffon has won many trophies including a World Cup

No comparison here and he was playing for Juventus today. Some classless people in the Pak World Cup team

Yes Buffon has won other trophies but this was a major final. The biggest final Juventus can ever play and his last attempt at it.

 

[miandadrules]

OMG! Juventus just lost the FINAL of the champions league and Buffon was smiling and higging everyone and giving everyone high fives! Clearly he doesn't care and is happy his team lost. Perhaps him and Afridi were plotting the losses and happiness together.

Still desperate to bring some respectability and credibility to Afridi.

The fact of the matter is that after performing woefully in the entire tournament all that concerned him at the end was that it was HIS last match.

Sums up the man.

Sums up his career.

 

[PakWC2015]

Was this bump necessary?

Still desperate to bring some respectability and credibility to Afridi.

The fact of the matter is that after performing woefully in the entire tournament all that concerned him at the end was that it was HIS last match.

Sums up the man.

Sums up his career.

Perfect, just what was needed. A visit from PP resident Afridioligist. Skilled in knowing exactly how the Afridi mind operates. Thank you for your 100% fact based comment which is never ever biased in any way.

 

[miandadrules]

Perfect, just what was needed. A visit from PP resident Afridioligist. Skilled in knowing exactly how the Afridi mind operates. Thank you for your 100% fact based comment which is never ever biased in any way.

My pleasure.

 

[Bilal7]

Buffon has won many trophies including a World Cup

No comparison here and he was playing for Juventus today. Some classless people in the Pak World Cup team

So you're saying that once players win a lot of trophies, they don't care about losses? Why was Dhoni crying then?

This is a very apt comparison and I'm glad someone bumped it. At the end of the day, this is a sport and unfortunately, sport also has losers.

 

[miandadrules]

So you're saying that once players win a lot of trophies, they don't care about losses? Why was Dhoni crying then?

This is a very apt comparison and I'm glad someone bumped it. At the end of the day, this is a sport and unfortunately, sport also has losers.

One performed outstandingly to take an unfancied team to the most prestigious tournament final in football and performed outstandingly in it.

The other was Afridi.

 

[Bilal7]

One performed outstandingly to take an unfancied team to the most prestigious tournament final in football and performed outstandingly in it.

The other was Afridi.

You can blame Afridi for being a no-show at the World Cup, you can't blame him for laughing after that quarter-final loss.

 

[miandadrules]

You can blame Afridi for being a no-show at the World Cup, you can't blame him for laughing after that quarter-final loss.

Are you dictating what I can and can't do?


It is indicative of his attitude and personality.

Always putting himself and money ahead of Pakistan.

 

[wasimjunior]

You can blame Afridi for being a no-show at the World Cup, you can't blame him for laughing after that quarter-final loss.

Why not?

He doesn't care and everyone knows it.

Him and his puppet were more bothered about his glorious career than bowing out of a World Cup but if you saw him bat you would have expected it.

I still can't get over how he batted in that game. Knocking jt around and getting 4 an over with maqsood would have taken us to 250 easy which may have been winnable. Instead he chose to hit out and threw his wicket away asap. Mindblowing considering he was picked as an allrounder and not our best spinner.

The difference now is he also can't back up his selective hunger (when he wants captaincy) with performances anymore.

 

[miandadrules]

Why not?

He doesn't care and everyone knows it.

Him and his puppet were more bothered about his glorious career than bowing out of a World Cup but if you saw him bat you would have expected it.

I still can't get over how he batted in that game. Knocking jt around and getting 4 an over with maqsood would have taken us to 250 easy which may have been winnable. Instead he chose to hit out and threw his wicket away asap. Mindblowing considering he was picked as an allrounder and not our best spinner.

The difference now is he also can't back up his selective hunger (when he wants captaincy) with performances anymore.

If he had scored a quick fire 30 his fan boys would have forgiven everything and hailed it as one of the greatest World Cup innings. Without would have come a few endorsement deals where footage of the innings would have been replayed.

So he had his priorities in order. Unfortunately for us Pakistan team and country was not one of them.

 

[Haroon786]

Are you dictating what I can and can't do?


It is indicative of his attitude and personality.

Always putting himself and money ahead of Pakistan.

This. Mods should be banning any posters who are trying to justify his behaviour.

 

[PakWC2015]

'Always putting himself and money ahead of Pakistan'

Care to back it up with any proof? Or is it the usual baseless claims [MENTION=1080]miandadrules[/MENTION]

 

[miandadrules]

'Always putting himself and money ahead of Pakistan'

Care to back it up with any proof? Or is it the usual baseless claims [MENTION=1080]miandadrules[/MENTION]

What proof would you like?

 

[Bilal7]

Are you dictating what I can and can't do?


It is indicative of his attitude and personality.

Always putting himself and money ahead of Pakistan.

No, I am just letting you think how I view this matter. You are the one hounding me about my opinion. Afridi is a frustrating player but a sell-out, he is not. I distinctly remember that agent, who was able to coerce a few of our players to spot-fix, saying that Afridi is one guy who can never be bought. Your irrational hate towards Afridi is well-known so I don't know if anything I say is going to change that.

Why not?

He doesn't care and everyone knows it.

Him and his puppet were more bothered about his glorious career than bowing out of a World Cup but if you saw him bat you would have expected it.

I still can't get over how he batted in that game. Knocking jt around and getting 4 an over with maqsood would have taken us to 250 easy which may have been winnable. Instead he chose to hit out and threw his wicket away asap. Mindblowing considering he was picked as an allrounder and not our best spinner.

The difference now is he also can't back up his selective hunger (when he wants captaincy) with performances anymore.

He obviously cares. Every cricketer that reaches the international stage cares a helluva lot about representing their country. You are mistaking his inability to bat sensibly with him not having any passion.

 

[miandadrules]

No, I am just letting you think how I view this matter. You are the one hounding me about my opinion. Afridi is a frustrating player but a sell-out, he is not. I distinctly remember that agent, who was able to coerce a few of our players to spot-fix, saying that Afridi is one guy who can never be bought. Your irrational hate towards Afridi is well-known so I don't know if anything I say is going to change that.



He obviously cares. Every cricketer that reaches the international stage cares a helluva lot about representing their country. You are mistaking his inability to bat sensibly with him not having any passion.

Let's get a few things straight.

I have not once asked for your opinion. So, how you have come to the conclusion that I am hounding is you is beyond me. Yet you have the audacity to claim I am the irrational one.

Please give examples of anything I have said which I haven't substantiated.

Lastly, the agent did not say that Afridi can't be bought. He said that when dealing with Afridi you'd have constantly massage his ego inorder for him to do anything. This, like nearly everything else concerning Afridi was twisted by fanboys like yourself in to a statement that he was incorruptible. Then it was repeated so many times that you regarded it as fact just like the story that he tipped off the News if the World.

So don't patronise me with you fabrications just because you can't see past your emotions. Trying to tar me with with brush of ignorance when it clearly afflicts you is a little rich.

 

[PakWC2015]

So don't patronise me with you fabrications just because you can't see past your emotions. Trying to tar me with with brush of ignorance when it clearly afflicts you is a little rich.

) ) This line coming from you is just amazing! Coming from someone who makes the most ridiculous claims about Afridi with no proof/evidence/source.

 

[miandadrules]

) ) This line coming from you is just amazing! Coming from someone who makes the most ridiculous claims about Afridi with no proof/evidence/source.

Please point them out and the proof you would like.

 

[CricFan2012]

Please point them out and the proof you would like.

Hey i saw some posts of you praising Afridi. But do you like Miandad or afridi more?

 

[miandadrules]

Hey i saw some posts of you praising Afridi. But do you like Miandad or afridi more?

I don't like or hate anyone.

I only support Pakistan and I certainly don't support anyone or their actions who are detrimental to her.

 

[CricFan2012]

I don't like or hate anyone.

I only support Pakistan and I certainly don't support anyone or their actions who are detrimental to her.

Ok but afridi has made many records isnt he the GOAT Pakistani cricketer? Most Pakistani people ive met say their favo cricketer is afridi no one ever says miandad mine personally is Babar Azam

 

[miandadrules]

Ok but afridi has made many records isnt he the GOAT Pakistani cricketer? Most Pakistani people ive met say their favo cricketer is afridi no one ever says miandad mine personally is Babar Azam

Yes of course he is the GOAT.

What have Imran, Miandad, Wasim, Waqar and Hanif ever done?

Only Shoaib Malik comes close to Afridi.

 

[CricFan2012]

Yes of course he is the GOAT.

What have Imran, Miandad, Wasim, Waqar and Hanif ever done?

Only Shoaib Malik comes close to Afridi.

Lol... How do you not rate Wasim atleast? Malik's bowling isnt as good as afridi

 

[miandadrules]

Lol... How do you not rate Wasim atleast? Malik's bowling isnt as good as afridi

I was being sarcastic.

I don't rate Afridi nor Malik.

Afridi is just a media creation thrust upon the ignorant masses.

 

[Bilal7]

Let's get a few things straight.

I have not once asked for your opinion. So, how you have come to the conclusion that I am hounding is you is beyond me. Yet you have the audacity to claim I am the irrational one.

Please give examples of anything I have said which I haven't substantiated.

Lastly, the agent did not say that Afridi can't be bought. He said that when dealing with Afridi you'd have constantly massage his ego inorder for him to do anything. This, like nearly everything else concerning Afridi was twisted by fanboys like yourself in to a statement that he was incorruptible. Then it was repeated so many times that you regarded it as fact just like the story that he tipped off the News if the World.

So don't patronise me with you fabrications just because you can't see past your emotions. Trying to tar me with with brush of ignorance when it clearly afflicts you is a little rich.

I don't really want anything to do with posters that spew irrational hate like yourselves, which is why you will find that my post in this thread was how I felt about Afridi, which was my opinion, and you then proceeded to bombard me with twisted statements. It is laughable that you're accusing me of doing that.

I am not an Afridi fanboy, I never liked him as a cricket but I do have the mental capacity to be able to think clearly when assessing a player. I'd like to see where you read that Afridi can be bought if his ego is massaged enough.

Like I said, I couldn't care less about the likes of you. Continue hating on Afridi and going into a raging frenzy whenever anyone says anything positive about the man.

 

[miandadrules]

I don't really want anything to do with posters that spew irrational hate like yourselves, which is why you will find that my post in this thread was how I felt about Afridi, which was my opinion, and you then proceeded to bombard me with twisted statements. It is laughable that you're accusing me of doing that.

I am not an Afridi fanboy, I never liked him as a cricket but I do have the mental capacity to be able to think clearly when assessing a player. I'd like to see where you read that Afridi can be bought if his ego is massaged enough.

Like I said, I couldn't care less about the likes of you. Continue hating on Afridi and going into a raging frenzy whenever anyone says anything positive about the man.

Once again where have I bombarded you?

I didn't say he could be bought by massaging his ego. I clearly said the agent explained that to coerce Afridi you'd have to massage his ego. This does not equate to Afridi being incorruptible as you are claiming.

So you can express an opinion but if I do it is hate?

You seem to be under some false illusion that I seek your approval or hold your opinion is some esteem. I think it has been established quite some time ago how little I think of you and your opinions but I respect your right to express them, as this is how a forum operates.

Lastly, lets get to this accusation of a raging frenzy. It's a simple tactic to diminish ones argument by labelling it with a negative connotation but please point out anything I haven't substantiated.

With regards to a frenzy;

1. It was you who seems to feel that I am hounding you for your opinion when I barely acknowledge your presence on the forum. Is this rational?

2. It is you who has made the fictitious claim that the agent said Afridi was incorruptible. When I countered it by stating that he never said anything of the sort, it is now a twisted argument?

http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan/content/story/535824.html

Basically, your stating that I should allow falsehoods to be expressed openly about Afridi and to counter them is due to a ranging frenzy?

On a personal level, if you wish to trade insults I am more than willing to oblige but under no circumstances be under the illusion that I hold you or your belief systems in any esteem whatsoever, far from it. I thought I made that clear when we had the discussion on education.

 

[Varun]

I don't even remember Dhoni crying after CWC 2015.

 

[#GreenRoars]

I don't really want anything to do with posters that spew irrational hate like yourselves, which is why you will find that my post in this thread was how I felt about Afridi, which was my opinion, and you then proceeded to bombard me with twisted statements. It is laughable that you're accusing me of doing that.

I am not an Afridi fanboy, I never liked him as a cricket but I do have the mental capacity to be able to think clearly when assessing a player. I'd like to see where you read that Afridi can be bought if his ego is massaged enough.

Like I said, I couldn't care less about the likes of you. Continue hating on Afridi and going into a raging frenzy whenever anyone says anything positive about the man.

now you are saying something sensible

 

[miandadrules]

now you are saying something sensible

You know what they say about simple minds....

http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan/content/story/535824.html

 

[#GreenRoars]

You know what they say about simple minds....

http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan/content/story/535824.html

"He also bragged"
sums up all

 

[miandadrules]

You can blame Afridi for being a no-show at the World Cup, you can't blame him for laughing after that quarter-final loss.

Are you dictating what I can and can't do?


It is indicative of his attitude and personality.

Always putting himself and money ahead of Pakistan.

No, I am just letting you think how I view this matter. You are the one hounding me about my opinion. Afridi is a frustrating player but a sell-out, he is not. I distinctly remember that agent, who was able to coerce a few of our players to spot-fix, saying that Afridi is one guy who can never be bought. Your irrational hate towards Afridi is well-known so I don't know if anything I say is going to change that.



He obviously cares. Every cricketer that reaches the international stage cares a helluva lot about representing their country. You are mistaking his inability to bat sensibly with him not having any passion.

"He also bragged"
sums up all

Let's get the sequence of events right first.

But when has the truth or facts ever mattered?

 

[#GreenRoars]

Let's get the sequence of events right first.

But when has the truth or facts ever mattered?

lol, bhai you are getting it wrong i am not mentioning Bilal bro or else. i have just given reply in your way and quoted your line
Explanation :
i replied to Bilal bro comment , and you poked your nose. So i quoted your line which you said before to Bilal bro " I have not once asked for your opinion "
so i hope now you get it.

and 2nd, if you belive that guy Mazhar or majeed or who ever he is , is RIGHT.
then you should believe this whole article and you should believe that whatever he said is right.
about gayle, brad pitt, bret lee, e.t.c e.t.c e.t.c
and once again i will quote my line which i said before some days " i am not gonna argue more " So enjoy your posts.

 

[miandadrules]

lol, bhai you are getting it wrong i am not mentioning Bilal bro or else. i have just given reply in your way and quoted your line
Explanation :
i replied to Bilal bro comment , and you poked your nose. So i quoted your line which you said before to Bilal bro " I have not once asked for your opinion "
so i hope now you get it.

and 2nd, if you belive that guy Mazhar or majeed or who ever he is , is RIGHT.
then you should believe this whole article and you should believe that whatever he said is right.
about gayle, brad pitt, bret lee, e.t.c e.t.c e.t.c
and once again i will quote my line which i said before some days " i am not gonna argue more " So enjoy your posts.

Once again your trying to muddy the waters.

1. My line which you quoted was in reference to Bilal saying I was hounding him for his view point when it was he himself who said I can't hold such a view. Hence, I clearly stated that I have never asked for his opinion let alone hounded him for it.

2. Your quote was in agreement with an insult directed at me, so how you have concluded that I have poked my nose in is beyond me. It seems a little cowardly to insult someone and then take umbrage when they take the issue up with you. Basically, your saying let me insult you and don't reply. Seems to fit the Afridi fanboy modus operandi.

3. Once again being very selective with your facts. As a moderator you must have read through the posts in this thread. Bilal proudly lauded the virtues of Afridi by stating that Mazhar Majeed claimed Afridi was incorruptible (strangely you didn't take exception to this). When I pulled him up on the fact and stated that this was a fabrication propagated by Afridi and his agent (the same guy that threatened legal action against a PP poster) after the event (google it if you need clarification). Mazhar said nothing of the sort and I backed up the clarification by providing what he said in a court of law, that Afridi need constant massaging of his ego and made no reference to him being above corruption.

I'm glad the posters can read through this thread and see the spin and subversion that is practiced by Afridi and his fanboys. Continue to try a diminish it by labelling hate, even when everything I state I substantiate.

 

[Bilal7]

Let's get the sequence of events right first.

But when has the truth or facts ever mattered?

Laughable. I don't know what else to say. This sequence was starter from this:

One performed outstandingly to take an unfancied team to the most prestigious tournament final in football and performed outstandingly in it.

The other was Afridi.

When I say that I don't take you or your comments seriously, I act the part and completely ignore all your posts, unless forced to. You say and do two different things, along with foolishly misinterpreting my comments. By "You", I didn't mean you, I was making a general point about how people shouldn't confuse Afridi's performances with his passion for the sport.

now you are saying something sensible

Sadly, miandadrules has said nothing of the sort during this entire conversation.

Once again where have I bombarded you?

I didn't say he could be bought by massaging his ego. I clearly said the agent explained that to coerce Afridi you'd have to massage his ego. This does not equate to Afridi being incorruptible as you are claiming.

So you can express an opinion but if I do it is hate?

You seem to be under some false illusion that I seek your approval or hold your opinion is some esteem. I think it has been established quite some time ago how little I think of you and your opinions but I respect your right to express them, as this is how a forum operates.

Lastly, lets get to this accusation of a raging frenzy. It's a simple tactic to diminish ones argument by labelling it with a negative connotation but please point out anything I haven't substantiated.

With regards to a frenzy;

1. It was you who seems to feel that I am hounding you for your opinion when I barely acknowledge your presence on the forum. Is this rational?

2. It is you who has made the fictitious claim that the agent said Afridi was incorruptible. When I countered it by stating that he never said anything of the sort, it is now a twisted argument?

http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan/content/story/535824.html

Basically, your stating that I should allow falsehoods to be expressed openly about Afridi and to counter them is due to a ranging frenzy?

On a personal level, if you wish to trade insults I am more than willing to oblige but under no circumstances be under the illusion that I hold you or your belief systems in any esteem whatsoever, far from it. I thought I made that clear when we had the discussion on education.

Like [MENTION=138379]#GreenRoars[/MENTION] has already mentioned, in order for you to believe that Afridi needed to have his butt kissed in order for him to fix, you also have to believe in all the other claims that The Fake Sheikh has made. If you do, you're seriously delusional. If you don't, you're a hypocrite.

Yes, you are raging here. Everyone can see it with the way in the way you're posting and the manner in which you are rabidly out for Afridi's blood. No point in denying it unless you picked the second option from the paragraph above. Your overtly aggressive tone and taking my comments that were intended for a general audience as personal slights are hounding in my book.

No need to repeat yourself over and over again with regards to my posts, prove it with your actions.

 

[Bilal7]

1. My line which you quoted was in reference to Bilal saying I was hounding him for his view point when it was he himself who said I can't hold such a view. Hence, I clearly stated that I have never asked for his opinion let alone hounded him for it.

The usage of ‘you’ to mean ‘one’, anyone, someone or people in general is quite widespread and is well-established. This again proves that your rage is making you incapable of comprehending any post in this thread that is even slightly in favor of Afridi.

 

[miandadrules]

Laughable. I don't know what else to say. This sequence was starter from this:



When I say that I don't take you or your comments seriously, I act the part and completely ignore all your posts, unless forced to. You say and do two different things, along with foolishly misinterpreting my comments. By "You", I didn't mean you, I was making a general point about how people shouldn't confuse Afridi's performances with his passion for the sport.



Sadly, miandadrules has said nothing of the sort during this entire conversation.



Like [MENTION=138379]#GreenRoars[/MENTION] has already mentioned, in order for you to believe that Afridi needed to have his butt kissed in order for him to fix, you also have to believe in all the other claims that The Fake Sheikh has made. If you do, you're seriously delusional. If you don't, you're a hypocrite.

Yes, you are raging here. Everyone can see it with the way in the way you're posting and the manner in which you are rabidly out for Afridi's blood. No point in denying it unless you picked the second option from the paragraph above. Your overtly aggressive tone and taking my comments that were intended for a general audience as personal slights are hounding in my book.

No need to repeat yourself over and over again with regards to my posts, prove it with your actions.

1. You didn't mean me yet you quoted only me.

2. You claim to be well versed in the nuisances of specific and general comments yet fail to grasp that when you say I ignore all YOUR posts you are actually referring to the person in question.

3. By me pointing out that the comparison of Buffon and Afridi is not appropriate as you claimed, I am forcing you to respond? Did I attack or insult tour view point or did merely point out major differences between the two?

4. Once again you resort to insults yet you claim I am the aggressive one and that I haven't said anything simple.

5. I never made the match fixing claim which you keep repeating. I simply pointed out what was really said by him with regards Afridi and at no point did he say Afridi was above corruption like you claimed.

6. So you were happy to believe 'the fake sheik' when you falsely claimed that he stated Afridi was incorruptible but when point out the contrary, suddenly he is unreliable? Basically I'm delusional but your rational is what your saying? I'm the hypocrite but your not? I wasn't the one who brought him in to the conversation it was you.

7. I am raging yet you are the first to indulge in personal insults and continue to do so.

 

[miandadrules]

I don't really want anything to do with posters that spew irrational hate like yourselves, which is why you will find that my post in this thread was how I felt about Afridi, which was my opinion, and you then proceeded to bombard me with twisted statements. It is laughable that you're accusing me of doing that.

I am not an Afridi fanboy, I never liked him as a cricket but I do have the mental capacity to be able to think clearly when assessing a player. I'd like to see where you read that Afridi can be bought if his ego is massaged enough.

Like I said, I couldn't care less about the likes of you. Continue hating on Afridi and going into a raging frenzy whenever anyone says anything positive about the man.

The usage of ‘you’ to mean ‘one’, anyone, someone or people in general is quite widespread and is well-established. This again proves that your rage is making you incapable of comprehending any post in this thread that is even slightly in favor of Afridi.

So your claiming all these weren't directed at me?

I am the one who is incapable of comprehending?

 

[miandadrules]

No, I am just letting you think how I view this matter. You are the one hounding me about my opinion. Afridi is a frustrating player but a sell-out, he is not. I distinctly remember that agent, who was able to coerce a few of our players to spot-fix, saying that Afridi is one guy who can never be bought. Your irrational hate towards Afridi is well-known so I don't know if anything I say is going to change that.



He obviously cares. Every cricketer that reaches the international stage cares a helluva lot about representing their country. You are mistaking his inability to bat sensibly with him not having any passion.

I don't really want anything to do with posters that spew irrational hate like yourselves, which is why you will find that my post in this thread was how I felt about Afridi, which was my opinion, and you then proceeded to bombard me with twisted statements. It is laughable that you're accusing me of doing that.

I am not an Afridi fanboy, I never liked him as a cricket but I do have the mental capacity to be able to think clearly when assessing a player. I'd like to see where you read that Afridi can be bought if his ego is massaged enough.

Like I said, I couldn't care less about the likes of you. Continue hating on Afridi and going into a raging frenzy whenever anyone says anything positive about the man.

Laughable. I don't know what else to say. This sequence was starter from this:



When I say that I don't take you or your comments seriously, I act the part and completely ignore all your posts, unless forced to. You say and do two different things, along with foolishly misinterpreting my comments. By "You", I didn't mean you, I was making a general point about how people shouldn't confuse Afridi's performances with his passion for the sport.



Sadly, miandadrules has said nothing of the sort during this entire conversation.



Like [MENTION=138379]#GreenRoars[/MENTION] has already mentioned, in order for you to believe that Afridi needed to have his butt kissed in order for him to fix, you also have to believe in all the other claims that The Fake Sheikh has made. If you do, you're seriously delusional. If you don't, you're a hypocrite.

Yes, you are raging here. Everyone can see it with the way in the way you're posting and the manner in which you are rabidly out for Afridi's blood. No point in denying it unless you picked the second option from the paragraph above. Your overtly aggressive tone and taking my comments that were intended for a general audience as personal slights are hounding in my book.

No need to repeat yourself over and over again with regards to my posts, prove it with your actions.

Just in case you needed any further clarification.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan/content/story/535824.html

 

[miandadrules]

I think that is hypocrisy.

 

[Gotham Cronie]

Also if those three, Afridi, Younis and Shehzad actually did something of use during the world cup there wouldn't have been as much of a reaction. But all three were useless.

Useless is being kind